BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:06 PM

What you say is pretty true, Ake, but should Palin get in as President, the expression "seriously fucked" would take on a whole new dimension heretofore undreamed of.

But most people are capable of intelligent thought, although sometimes you have to push them to some pretty wild extremes to get them to dust it off and use it. Now, Sarah would do that for a lot of relatively comatose people. Including a lot of her supporters!! ("EEK!! What was I thinking--if at all!???")

But by then, the country would be in a shambles and the corporations would have far more of a strangle-hold than they do now, and that would be going some!! The Constitution would, in effect, have been run through the shredder!

No. Not a good way to go.

Don Firth

P. S. If Sarah were the first woman President of the United States, I can guarantee you that it would set women's rights back a good two centuries and it would be one helluva long time before any other woman, no matter how brilliant, well qualified, and deserving she might be, would be elected.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:52 PM

Yeah, Don, that's about the way I see it, too...

Sarah might be centerfold material but she ain't White House material...

But back to this "intellegent thought" stuff... It's hard to ascertain how much "intellegent thought" is out there in the masses because they have been fed such a full diet of misinformation by the right that I'm sure that lots of them think they are being intellegent but without the proper knowledge base it's being wasted...

Like they say, "garbage in, garbage out"... Don't blame the middle man...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 09:21 PM

...most people are capable of intelligent thought...

Not so's you'd notice. What evidence can you cite for this assertion?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 09:31 PM

Ronald Reagan's speech writer was able to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:42 PM

Ronnie wasn't...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 01:25 AM

I've been reading some of the Comments following political news stories and if most of the writers reflect our people as a whole, there is, frankly, no hope for us. Peasantry, in its day, created better minds. At least, that is how I'm thinking these days.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 03:19 AM

Out here, in Sanity-Land, methinks that all this worry about Sarah Palin, being the next President, comes from those who think that Obama must have REALLY fucked up, to create that kind of backlash!...................but then, ........he sure has!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:24 AM

Like I've said before about Sarah... Centerfold material and not much else... Oh, except she is very entertaining...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:46 AM

If you can't come up with a better centerfold doing a google images search, it's time to give up sex and become a monk on a desert island somewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 08:37 PM

Now wait a minute, mouser... I didn't say she was the hottest ol' gal on the planet... All I siad is that she would make better centerfold material than presidential material... Which, BTW, might not be saying that she's not hot at all... But, fir the record, she's purdy hot fir her age...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Jul 10 - 09:25 PM

Reminds me of a friend of mine. He saw this woman in a restaurant, sitting in a booth with a friend. Really good looking. Verging on gorgeous. In fact, she was beautiful! Hot!!

He sat there adoring her.

"Then," he said, "she opened her mouth. . . ."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 17 Jul 10 - 08:01 PM

Bad breath and black teeth are really hard to deal with!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jul 10 - 08:36 PM

BTW, seems like the Republican Party is having this little discussion about whether it's best to just do the Tea Party thing which is to criticize everything that the Dems are doin' or stepping out front with their own ideas...

Seems like the Tea Party strategy is winnin' out so don't look for much more that "we want out country back" bullshit between here and November...

Meanwhile, grandma was beatin' off the Indians...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jul 10 - 10:58 PM

He couldn't smell her breath from where he sat and her teeth looked okay.

But he could hear what she was saying and she managed to reveal in only a few sentences that she had been born without a brain.

Don Firth

P. S. Sometimes, I guess, you have to draw a picture. . . .

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 08:18 AM

She must have been a Democrat, I suppose!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 04:20 PM

No, she was an arch-conservative Democrat-hater wearing an "America for Americans Only" button, which our hero hadn't noticed at first.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 07:25 AM

Doesn't sound like your friend is very inclusive.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 02:30 PM

Didn't know what thread to post this on....so I guess this will do...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 02:33 PM

soory, my last post, forgot the 'blue clicky'

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 03:58 PM

Not inclusive, Rig? Well, I dunno. Like any normal male, he responded in the usual manner to a physically attractive young woman (I believe Nature programs us that way). But when one finds that that physically attractive woman has all the intelligence and personality of the common garden slug, it tends to replace one's ardor with a certain measure of revulsion.

He does have a thing about really stupid people. Especially if their stupidity is voluntary.

But my friend has no particular prejudices against Hispanics or other immigrants taking menial or hard-labor jobs that no one else wants to "lower themselves" to do, no matter how essential these jobs are to our society.

Yeah. He's a pretty inclusive guy. Certainly compared to some.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 05:36 PM

Would he take a non-essential job away from an immigrant?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 08:35 PM

Well, he was an artist. Some people might consider that "non-essential." I don't, but some might.

Would you risk your health and well-being by braving a cloud of pesticides while spend dawn to dusk seven days a week harvesting apples, grapes, asparagus, et al, while getting paid something like two-bits for every bushel basket you can fill?

Do you eat, apples, grapes, asparagus?

Who will harvest this stuff if Hispanic immigrants either won't do it or are not allowed to do it? Nobody I know.

Swabbing out toilets in public rest rooms for minimum wage? Sometimes way less than minimum wage?

Would you?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 09:04 PM

"Would you risk your health and well-being by braving a cloud of pesticides while spend dawn to dusk seven days a week harvesting apples, grapes, asparagus, et al, while getting paid something like two-bits for every bushel basket you can fill?"


                  No reason to, we have machines to do that. The problem is, the illegals work so cheap it doesn't pay to run the machines. Pay ten-cents a pound more for tomatoes, and save millions in property taxes going to educate non-English speaking students.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jul 10 - 11:15 PM

Machines can't harvest strawberries. And many other crops.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 07:59 AM

Yeah, there are limits to what fruits and veggies can be harvested with machines... Most of what we see in the produce sections are things that machines cannot harvest...

Farmer Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 10:28 AM

Well, machines used to harvest grapes, but since the wages for farm labor went so low, the harverters have been parked and many of the manufacterers have gone out of business.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 12:31 PM

First of all, stop trying to define what OTHER people are willing to do for work! A man who is providing for his family might do just about anything. The natural citizens of any country should be able to choose that, and not have it 'decided' for them, by the political lunatics trying to further an already stupid agenda!!

Fact: Borders are borders...and borders are borders for a reason. Why not wander into your neighbors house and do or take what you want??...and before you get all dishonestly 'indignant', ANSWER the question!

You earned what you earned for your house...what entitles anyone else to just go help themselves???

This argument is at best, blatantly dishonest, and another bunch of bullshit, trying to masquerade, as 'progressively hip', and pro humanitarian. This argument amounts to nothing more than lame excuses, that end up weakening our country's security and economy! There is nothing wrong or immoral with immigrants, doing that work, LEGALLY, and a government enforcing its laws and borders.

This crap has been going on under both party's administrations...the biggest problem is some of you lemmings never asked 'WHY'!...but rather just parrot some talking points, of morons of questionable motives!

Hey man, duhhh, just deluge 14-15 million schleps, into anywhere, without a fucking ounce of accountability as to the IMPACT that brings on an infrastructure, economy, or well being of EVERYONE affected, and then try to come off as a 'humanitarian good guy'???
In fact, you're a short sighted ASS

GfS!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 02:25 PM

Meanwhile back at the Ranch...

Blue Clicky

Iowa billboard linking Obama, Hitler removed

An Iowa tea party group on Wednesday replaced a billboard comparing President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin, calling the sign a bad decision that reflected poorly on the organization.

Workers papered over the sign in downtown Mason City at the request of the North Iowa Tea Party.

"We got it covered up first thing this morning," said Kent Beatty, the general manager of the company that owns the billboard.

The roughly 200-member tea party group had the original sign put up last week. It showed photographs of Obama, Nazi leader Hitler and communist leader Lenin beneath the labels "Democrat Socialism," "National Socialism," and "Marxist Socialism."

After the billboard drew sharp criticism by other state and national tea party leaders, members of the local group sought the change.

North Iowa Tea Party co-founder Bob Johnson said he and other leaders agreed with critics that the image of Obama between Hitler and Lenin was offensive. He said the images overwhelmed the intended message of anti-socialism.

"They are absolutely right in their criticism because the image of Hitler just totally wiped everything else and it misrepresents the tea party movement," Johnson said. "They were right from the standpoint that the image was not a positive reflection on the tea people."

Johnson said Hitler images are usually not allowed at North Iowa Tea Party gatherings.

Removal of the sign was welcomed by the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants, a New York-based group.

The North Iowa Tea Party "acted properly in removing the grotesquely offensive sign which should never have been put up in the first place. Had they not acted to remove it they would have severely damaged the credibility of legitimate political causes they espouse," the group said in a statement. "We ask that political groups do not trivialize our suffering in the future by making false analogies with Hitler's horrendous crimes."

For now, the sign has been plastered over with one urging people to notify officials before digging.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 03:56 PM

Because if they dig too deep they might find out the truth about Democrats?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 04:31 PM

Interesting take Rig. Care to comment on the actual subject of my post?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 07:51 AM

Sure, the were making the most of the word "Socialist."
National Socialist, and etc. The have Obama pegged as a socialist, so why not compare him to socialists of the past.

             I don't know why Americans pay so much attention to Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants. It was something that happened in Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 08:30 AM

Why not?

Because the very last thing Pres. Obama is, is a socialist.

Just more lies, stupidity, ignorance and bullshit: the Four Horsemen of the TeaBagger Apocalypse.

They also need to review the political philisophies of Adolf & Vladimir-
the "socialist" label is so broad as to be meaningless applied to those two.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 08:36 AM

Bingo Greg F.
The Tea Bag morons (and Faux News, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.) are reacting to a word with no understanding of it at all.
Perhaps they should mount a campaign comparing National Car Rental to the Nazis (National Socialist Party).
This would make every bit as much sense.

Perhaps they should also compare National Velvet to The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 08:44 AM

Don't give thewm any new ideas, TIA... I mean, these people are insanly out of touch with any reality and I really don't think they see and BIGASS LIE as *too big* to tell...

I blame the FCC for most of this... When they decided that the public air waves weren't realy "public" and sold them off to the highest bidder that allowed corporations with agendas to buy them up and put out false information in the name of "news"... Now the toothpaste is out of the tube and we ain't gonna ever get it back in and the FOX/corportist/complex has succeeded in brainwashing enough people who are willing to do the "brownshirting" for Fox and its right winged corporte partners...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:19 AM

Well, I agree with you, TIA, on their use of the word "socialist." I was just reacting to KB's request.

                The question that needs to be asked, is seems to me, is: How did American's get so dumb?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:28 AM

Good question, Rigs... But dumb is in... Has been for going on a couple decades now... Daddy Bush started it with his class warfare and Junior picked right up where his dad left off... Now the in thing among the dumbed down is to ridicule as "elitists" anyone who bothered to get an education... Throw in the last 8 years of flat-earth scientists being the voices of the Bush administartion and dumb policies on stem cell research and now even this anti-immigration movement and we're seein' a major brain drain as intellegent and educated people are either not coming here to work or leaving to work... Either way... The dumb are winning... I quess you call it winning???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:00 AM

Just for the record I need to respond to this: "I don't know why Americans pay so much attention to Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants. It was something that happened in Europe."

Rig, are you really that stupid? I hadn't thought so.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:04 AM

The Holocaust that happened in North America happened to the American Indians. Of course, they don't own newspapers and television networks, and...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:15 AM

Rig, are you saying we should only concern ourselves with things that happen/happened in North America and not about what happens/happened in the rest of the world?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:18 AM

I'm saying we should pay attention to innocent victims.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:20 AM

"I'm saying we should pay attention to innocent victims."

" I don't know why Americans pay so much attention to Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants. It was something that happened in Europe."

That is not what this sounds like.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:44 AM

Unless you can prove that Dick Army and the multi national corporations which he serves are terrorists, you can't prove the tea party is a terrorist organization.


Don, how about a Palin Beck ticket for hot and cold chills?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 12:38 PM

"Johnson said Hitler images are usually not allowed at North Iowa Tea Party gatherings."

Check out the adverb!

Rig: The question that needs to be asked, is seems to me, is: How did American's get so dumb?

Republicans cutting school budgets.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 12:44 PM

"The Holocaust that happened in North America happened to the American Indians." Rig

Not even close. I'm beginning to understand you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jayto
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:30 PM

I disagree with the Tea Party. I am glad to see people get vocal and show their digust in how things are going though. Even if I disagree with alot they are saying and basically think alot of them are just puppets that are too blind or emotional to see they are being used as puppets. As far as terrorists no I don't think that. I know I am not scared at all by any of them. The more I see and hear statements that are threatening or violent and aimed at "Liberals" the more I stand up and proclaim myself a Liberal. They are running off alot of moderates though in my opinion. I have considered myself a moderate for years. I really dont think anyone with a mind in use can just say they are liberal on every subject or conservative on every issue. If someone threatens me or makes me take a stand bc of harsh words or threats I will pick a side. The side I pick will be the opposite of the person trying to scare me to their side. I feel the Tea Baggers (yep) are trying to do this. I support them voicing their opinions and organizing. I don't agree with them but I am happy they are doing it. I will no succomb to threats or fear though. There are a bunch of people out there that feel the same. You are always going to have people that are "over the top" in any movement. I oppose alot of what the Tea Party says and their actions but I support them being able to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:31 PM

Let's see, wiping out the bison and leaving the Indians out on the plains to starve and freeze to death was not even close.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:52 PM

Nope, Rig. Not even close.

What the States did to the American Indians was invasion and conquest, actions that have happened since time immemorial, actions that all governments and political bodies understand.

What happened in the Holocaust was far, far different.

The Holocaust involved government spotlighting some of their own people: Jews, homosexuals, Gypsies, mentally ill people, old people, crippled people, and attempting to eradicate them. It is a betrayal of the worst sort when your own country turns on you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:57 PM

I guess we see these events differently.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:59 PM

"The Holocaust that happened in North America happened to the American Indians." Rig

Not even close. I'm beginning to understand you.

They were not the same of course but I wouldn't say they were not even close. Both involved efforts to intentionally wipe out populations of fellow humans.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:19 PM

The head of the United Farm Workers, a very benign fellow, was on Colbert last week. They have a program called "Take Our Jobs" aimed at those who claim illegal immigrants (who do the majority of the crop and farm labor in areas like the Salinas and San Joaquin Valleys and Arizona) are taking American jobs. They offer an open invitation to Americans to come and work in the fields doing the jobs that illegal immigrants do. This should produce a lot of action, ione would think, considering the national unemployment statistics.

So far they have had THREE (count 'em--3!) takers.

Colbert was buffaloed into agreeing to try it, too! His first question: "Is there air conditioning?"


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