BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 06:17 PM

Only following your example WAV; here's some more copying and pasting.
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.
Getting the message yet, David? Can you see what's happening to this thread?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 06:24 PM

thanks Wiki - almost doggerel in its own right

The subject's trite, the content cloys
The cliche ridden crap annoys
The rhyme is forced and imprecise
the metre is not very nice
The trivial topics really bore
Ineptitude right to its core
The words are in order the wrong
sometimes the line is a tad too long

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 11:59 AM

...so, too, the following line of planes, Stu!...

When I repatriated, from Australia to England, in July 1997...

Poem 40 of 230: EFFICIENCY

On a flight from 'Cisco to New York,
    One hour our plane did balk,
As on the full-runways we taxied
    While competing-planes were freed.

Yet, as I looked around the cabin,
    Sometime during all this stalling,
It was sadly evident to me
    That far too many seats were free.

Then, after a late takeaway tea,
    I turned on the New York T.V.,
And saw some adults acting like stars,
    About landing a toy on Mars.

Yet, walking Manhattan the next day,
    I saw tens with nowhere to stay,
And I wondered just how much housing,
    For the poor, that space-wealth could bring.

(C) David Franks 2003
From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 01:12 PM

A considered critique of your latest offering (well, as considered as anything you post, anyway);
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 01:23 PM

Jaysus, David, every time you post one of those you get closer to the Nobel Prize for Tin Eared Doggerel.

Planes do not balk OR compete. Nor do they taxi on full runways. As for the number of seats occupied, most travelers rejoice in getting a half-full plane. What's your beef there? Compassion for the airline bottom line?

Furthermore the equipment landed on Mars was anything BUT toy-like. But I suppose you have little concept of how rugged and utilitarian they had to be.

Your tacit suggestion that the space program be diverted into feeding the poor is Terribly Virtuous but Highly Improbable, not to say Divinely Unrealistic.

A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 02:05 PM

It's part of my eco-tourism/travel argument, Amos: that is to say, if you'll pardon my gobbledygook, if the planes, owned by various competing private-airlines, were indeed, say, only half-filled with passengers (as with the one I boarded), then, all nationalised, much fuel and carbon-pollution could be saved getting the same number of folks from A to B/ S.F. to N.Y., in this case.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 02:24 PM

I see your point. At the same time, considering the general nature of production, incentive, capital, profit, and the experience of Aeroflot's track record, I think I have to say you are not thinking clearly.

A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 02:49 PM

I'm with Amos....The shit gets worse and worse. The blatant mistakes in your crud speak loudly to your almost complete lack of knowledge. Are you really this stupid or is it the naivete that is in control? WavyFWBR, I find it impossible to believe you have any serious education or that you actually travelled anywhere.

And this "eco-tourism" trash.............Reading your jackass explanation is laughable unless the total passenger load of all those planes happened to be going from S.F. to N.Y.

And what the fuck is "Cisco?" I assume you were looking for a shortened version of San Francisco which even the most monstrous dipshit of an asswipe on the face of the planet should know is "Frisco." The second most monstrous dipshit of an asswipe on the face of the planet does know that. Cisco is in Texas.

Yes WavyFWBR, you bring the beauty to Doggerel as I cannot imagine laughing any harder than I do at your crap. And it is crap. Please know that:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 04:07 PM

I put both abbreviations (Cisco and Frisco) into google and, frankly, neither produced San Francisco on the first page; but, even though there is a Frisco in Texas and I myself prefer 'Cisco, if other American citizens can second that it is/would be the one to use, then I shall change it.

Otherwise, language, Spaw, language!

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 05:29 PM

Intriguing how selective your googling is WAV.

Frisco is a common name for San Francisco, but raises the ire of some inhabitants. SF or the City are common among residents.

Cisco seems not to be an accepted name for San Francisco: it was your misuse of the vernacular, pretending a familiarity which you do not have.

Or are you American as well?

Did you study simple economics on your degree course, or was it a module on the FLT course?

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 05:52 PM

David,

Give up on the SF thing. No-one has ever called it Cisco. Some truckers call it 'Frisco, but the usage, as mentioned just upthread, is frowned on by the natives. They call it San Francisco. Or SF. Or the City, although most New Yorkers call Manhattan the City likewise.

A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:40 AM

63 years on this earth and I've never come accross someone who so completely and utterly has no understanding, whose head is so completely up his own arse he cannot or will not see or understand what intelligent and rational people are explaining to him, and is so arrogant that he really believes the whole world should hear his so called poems weather they want to or not,

Your poetry sucks
It has been posted repeatedly before
It is full of bigoted and racist statements
That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering you supposed travels.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 05:50 AM

Dear Dave, if my head was set so, I would not have made minor changes, such as the following...

Thanks to the other 3, this time I put "Frisco San Francisco" into google, and Frisco is the best I can do with 2 syllables.

Also, for what it's worth, via another google, that day was actually the 4th of July; and, via my calendar, it was the 15th that I landed in London (having checked a couple of art galleries, Central Park, the Empire State Building, The U.N., etc...

Poem 43 of 230: A BAYSWATER BED-SIT

Arrived in London,
    At Heathrow Airport,
With sixty kilos
    Of luggage I'd brought.

Found a paper, Loot,
    And called an agent;
Stored two heavy bags,
    Then to him I went.

For one week of rent,
    He'd ensure a bed
Within Bayswater -
    A bed-sit, he said.

It was eighty pounds
    Per week, nothing more,
With a lift arranged
    To the building's door.

Knackered and sleepless,
    I took the deal;
Checked-in quickly,
    Had a rushed meal.

Collected my bags
    (Tube there, shared-van back),
Then carried them up
    To my top-floor shack.

A penthouse - no need,
    It did me just fine;
A cook-top and fridge,         
    A table to dine.

Seated, I could watch
    The clouds roll by -
Often from the west -
    Or jets cut the sky.

There were large plane-trees,
    A squirrel or two;
And pigeons dropped by -
    Foregrounding the view.

Plus, at dawn, the sun
    Shined in from the east -
Filling the small room
    As on egg I'd feast.

And, contemplating,
    It occurs to me -
If all lived that well,
    How great it would be.

But a lot do sleep
    Outdoors many nights -
On sheets of cardboard,
    Without basic rights.

(C) David Franks 2003
From WalkaboutsVerse - blog link above, as I can't create a link today.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 05:54 AM

Another quick review (I didn't actually need to read it this time, I've seen it so often I can remember most of it by heart)
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:28 AM

Pretty grim, for all the reasons mentioned upthread which remain ungrasped...


A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 10:42 AM

Foregrounded? Are you shitting me? Let me repeat.........

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:03 AM

For those new to the thread, I thought I'd remind everyone of the superb analysis of WAVworld submitted by the estimable Suibhne some time ago; it seems nothing has been learned from this erudite piece;
'WAVism for Beginniners

WAVism is a philosophy of a Totalitarian World Order founded on the idea that the world has to be somehow Nice and Multicultural and that the only way to achieve this is to segregate all nations and ethnicities in a programme of mass repatriation and ethnic cleansing overseen by a New World Order WAVists refer to as The United Nations With Greater Powers. Though to the rational mind WAVism is the stuff of dystopian sci-fi, the WAVist genuinely feels WAVism represents the best way forward for Humanity, complete with an emphasis on National Folk Music and Music as a National Phenomenon Within Fixed Boundaries.

In a WAVist World, only Americans will be allowed to play rock music, and the only music English people will allowed to play is Our Own Good Folk Music and, possibly, Classical Music by English Composers, though how WAVists square this with the essentially non-English nature of Classical Music from the 10th Century onwards hasn't as yet been made clear. If WAVists accept English classical composers, then why not English rock composers? And what of such distinctly non-American popular musical phenomena as Krautrock? And what of the many English rock musicians who have been more influenced by Krautrock than American rock, yet have still managed to create a uniquely English rock music which then becomes a major influence back in America where it supposedly all began? Indeed, the unravelling of millennia of ethnic and cultural migrations, diaspora, invasion and cross-fertilisation is but one of the problems the WAVist faces when deciding upon their New World Order - let alone the inevitability of Near Total Dissidence, but people have been forced to comply at gunpoint before, so why not again? It's never been achieved on a global scale before, but there is a first time for everything!

So this is the absolute vision of WAVism's Nice Multicultural World, though what is particularly Nice about is another thing that hasn't, as yet, been made clear, especially given the pragmatics of making such a Global Totalitarianism a reality. Look at the human cost of Partition in India, which would be multiplied a million-fold at least in the ensuing migrations as populations are torn apart and people are forced to repatriate to the country of their ethnic (if not individual) origin. Still, such a holocaust would significantly reduce the Global Population - something else the WAVist has concerns about, as evident in their various Eugenic Asides which crop up every now and then. Still, when all is sorted out we will have that Nice Multicultural Wav-World with each ethnically cleansed Nation State devoted to its Indigenous Folk Culture, and policed by a Stronger UN to make sure it stays that way - there will be no Ethnic Contaminations or Cultural Recalcitrance, there will be no creativity or individualism, and, no doubt, the Human Genome will be modified to make sure that there will be no further developments; and that it will remain this way forever and ever and ever and ever... '
And while we're at it;
'--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels. '
Prof. Spaw of this Parish, 2010.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:34 AM

198 postings of this one

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 12:03 PM

But you didn't have the decency to post my response to that, Mando Copy/Paste Tim.
And Cat Copy/Paste Spaw - you made me check my spelling guide, but I soon found "foregrounding", thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 12:26 PM

WAV is quite right. Foregrounding is a perfectly valid word, although somewhat of a technical one.

"Noun        1.        foregrounding - the execution of a program that preempts the use of the processing system".

In this context, of course, WAV's use of the word makes no sense, since he attributes this technical process to squirrels and pigeons. ALso he leaves out any mention of the bats.



A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 01:16 PM

WAV; you didn't answer the questions or justify your position in any way, so, as with so much of your output, it wasn't worth repeating. I notice your reply still doesn't attempt to answer any questions.

Given your attitude to genders and races other than your own, I'm mildly surprised that 'decency' is a word you are familiar with. Perhaps you could check with some of your racist fellow travellers if they have heard of it? I'm sure you know how to contact the BNP and their like. In the meantime, a literary review;

'--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels. '

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 01:35 PM

It's difficult when English is not your native tongue.

"When shine is intransitive (has no direct object), the past tense is shone. When shine is transitive (takes a direct object), the past tense is shined.

Another way of looking at it is that when the subject of the verb is shiny, the past tense is shone. When the object of the verb is shiny, the past tense is shined.

"The table shone after I shined it." "

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 04:04 PM

Well Amos, it is as you say and WavyFWBR has it wrong as usual since as you note, a squirrel is not a computer although there are a number of them who are users.............The only thing WavyFWBR wants to foreground is his piss stream as his tiny dick keeps making him pee down his legs. This may be why his poetry stinks..........which it does.

I want to thank Tim for bringing any new followers up to date and for WavyFWBR I suggest a trip to the mirror where you look at yourself and read the following:

--My "poetry" sucks.
--I have posted it repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious that I have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering my supposed travels.

Because it really is as we tell you:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Tom - Swords & Songs
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 12:14 PM

This is my favourite thread on Mudcat.
I read it all the time (it's taken me several weeks to read all the way from the start AND the previous thread which was shut down), I've never heard such brilliance come from anyone ever. I am practically crying with laughter every day.

It makes me feel better as a human being that there are people out there like Spaw, Stu, Amos and Suibhne who will try again and again, often in vain, to explain to this odd little man how misguided he is.

Well done David for encouraging others to bring happiness to my days.

1)Your poetry sucks
2)It has been posted repeatedly before
3)It is full of bigoted and racist statements
4)That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
5)It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering you supposed travels.

I'm sure I'm not alone in being a regular reader who doesn't join the argument! I am only chipping in now because I'm someone who has had to sit through singaround after singaround in the North East with this awful blight on our society droning on about the same old crap. Awkward looks across the room, drink your beer and try not to laugh type of thing.

Tom

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 12:58 PM

Actually, Tom (and I think I know who it is..?), I'm tempted to give in to the persistent posse, which you have decieded to join, and call it a day: this thread is full of e-scroll links that seem to be permanently lost - sitegoz, i.e.; it's also full of false accusations and, even though such rubbish brings it atop, it seems, from my stats, that few bother to check my life's work for themselves, these days; also, there are more problems with Mudcat itself than there used to be..?

Robert Peel, who helped create the modern police force, leading to the term "Bobbies," was born this day in 1788...

Poem 137 of 230: SEEN

A change of pace -
    Walks through a place;
Crime-streets more clean -
    Through being seen.

Walking in twos,
    The wear on shoes
Worth the kept-peace
    Of foot-police.

(C) David Franks 2003
From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 02:15 PM

David:

Don't get me wrong. The RAW material of having seen so many slices of the world from time to time is not the problem here. The problem is not what you have seen.

The problem is that in translating what you have seen into what you hope will be poetry, you emasculate the event by jamming it through a poor, muggy filter of sentiment and judgemental additives. You then take the product of that filter and pressurize it through another filter of poorly understood aesthetic and linguistic principles on which successful poetry is based. The result of this double pasteurization is contrived, debased, artistically watery and wan, and grammatically jarring.

Good poetry tries to communicate life, and poor poetry tries to transmit a bunch of half-baked sentiments and judgements.

A

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: olddude
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 02:28 PM

I write songs. some of my songs are nothing short of awful, some others tell me are quite good. As with poetry. I do not like many of David's poems, others I think they are good because of his imagery . One thing I am sure about is David is no bigot. Some of the writings tread the line I think only by frustration in political systems more so than people but if you look at his myspace page and the groups he belongs to and the people listed as friends you won't find hate there. If he writes he writes, it hurts nothing I think just my observations. One thing I am sure, David can take criticism cause he sure get it.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:01 PM

Dan, I can agree that perhaps David has no hatred but bigotry and racism do not require hatred.   The basic definition of a bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Hello WavyFWBR

And Dan...........If you have written something "bad" then I haven't seen it. As a matter of fact, you are almost manic in your desire to craft things in the most pleasing way. Not only do you take criticism well, you demand it and are probably your own worst critic. David has been given great and very detailed criticism by some really fine sources (not me) and yet remains inflexible in his seeming quest for great "doggerel."


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 04:31 PM

"The basic definition of a bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ," from Spaw - and that is certainly NOT me: I love the world being multicultural/hate the idea of white supremacy; have at least tried to defend the land rights of those who are clearly not of my own culture, etc.

Thankfully for me, others, such as Dan, can see that, Spaw.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: olddude
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 06:03 PM

You know I love you Spaw, and David, write some things with your images, you conger up some images of places I never been to .. that I like when you do that

:-) Dan

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 06:57 PM

Conger up ? a conger is a large saltwater eel in the uk.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:27 PM

"Congering up" is a sort of swivel-hipped line dance they do in the Maritimes...at the end of every 12 bars they bite each other on the neck and change partners. It's a gas...

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 08:59 PM

WavyFWBR.......You love the world being multi-cultural as long as each culture has their own separate place. We can all get together every now and again but at the end of th day we all return to our single cultural homeland. If I decide to leave my "homeland" I should go to the place where things are most like they are in my homeland.

Is that about it?

And take it in the most friendly manner available when I say:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:38 AM

Did you actually read my last post, Spaw? For what it's worth, I disagree with, e.g., the One Australia Party, because they are not allowing for Aboriginal culture.

On a lighter note, it's not the season here for congers anyway, but it is, rather, for the Six Nations...

Poem 99 of 230: ONE RUGBY?

With sixth-tackle, knock-on and touch-line hand-over -
    No scrums, line-outs, rucks or mauls;
The rest (the best of both codes) would hardly alter -
    And no splits, due to two calls.

(C) David Franks 2003
From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 10:36 AM

Yeah, I read your post........and I've read your crap for a long time. Now once again, tell me that THIS is NOT what you believe. No stories or bullshit, just do you believe this:

You love the world being multi-cultural as long as each culture has their own separate place. We can all get together every now and again but at the end of th day we all return to our single cultural homeland. If I decide to leave my "homeland" I should go to the place where things are most like they are in my homeland.

And no, your Rugby shit in no way compares to Andy Griffith's finely crafted monologue. See, it goes like this:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 12:23 PM

One of the best things about the Six Nations is that it's NOT the "Four Nations" - even Auntie allows us to be English, for a change.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 12:29 PM

Once again, tell me that THIS is NOT what you believe. No stories or bullshit, just do you believe this:

You love the world being multi-cultural as long as each culture has their own separate place. We can all get together every now and again but at the end of th day we all return to our single cultural homeland. If I decide to leave my "homeland" I should go to the place where things are most like they are in my homeland.

And no, your Rugby shit in no way compares to Andy Griffith's finely crafted monologue. See, it goes like this:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 01:58 PM

Quote; 'One of the best things about the Six Nations is that it's NOT the "Four Nations" - even Auntie allows us to be English, for a change.' By 'Auntie'
I assume you mean the BBC? If so, what does the BBC have to do with the naming of this particular Rugby tournament, or decisions about who takes part and under which team names? Sirely that is to do with the International Rugby Board? Once again WAV, you demonstrate the ability to pontificate from a position of monumental ignorance. I think Spaw summed it up;
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 02:39 PM

Sirely? Surely you mean 'surely'? Yes, and don't call me Shirley...must learn to use the 'review your post' button, wish WAV would too. The we wouldn't have to keep saying
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 02:42 PM

WAV; are you familiar with the history of the game of Rugby? Do you understand why there are two codes? If not, go away and do some research, before you start demanding that the game is changed to suit your dimwitted ideas.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 05:06 PM

I can't see where I typed "sirely" instead of "surely", Tim, but, even if I did, surely it's "dimwitted" to bother about it.
Otherwise, yes I have a fair idea of the history, think that the changes made to form Rugby League were for the better, and, in the above poem, have proposed further changes, with a return to the "One Rugby"...
Also, perhaps the B.B.C. could learn from the I.R.B., then, and dissolve into the E.B.C., S.B.C., and W.B.C.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:29 PM

Well you certainly are "lettered"...............Now if you could just answer the following. I phrased it as simply as possible. Is this what you believe? Here we go:

You love the world being multi-cultural as long as each culture has their own separate place. We can all get together every now and again but at the end of th day we all return to our single cultural homeland. If I decide to leave my "homeland" I should go to the place where things are most like they are in my homeland.

Also note that:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 07:21 PM

WAV, you really are a dimwit; I was correcting myself, in a lighthearted sort of way.
If you really did have a fair idea of the history of rugby, you wouldn't make proposals that can never, ever take place. Admit it; you know bugger all about rugby, in the same way you know bugger all about pretty much everything else you pronounce upon. A little test...in the history of the two codes, what was the name of the hotel? Any self respecting rugby fan could answer that in an instant. How about you?
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about what the BBC has to do with the name of the Six Nations, or how they are involved in deciding what names each country plays under. Your answer?
Perhaps you could do the courtesy of responding to Spaw when he asks; 'Once again, tell me that THIS is NOT what you believe. No stories or bullshit, just do you believe this:

You love the world being multi-cultural as long as each culture has their own separate place. We can all get together every now and again but at the end of th day we all return to our single cultural homeland. If I decide to leave my "homeland" I should go to the place where things are most like they are in my homeland.'

I looked at your latest poem again, and came to this conclusion;
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 09:20 AM

Tim, or should I say "Sire," by George: it certainly wasn't this place in Victoria, Australia...

Poem 7 of 230: RECENT HISTORY

There's a place called Sovereign Hill,
    Nigh the city of Ballarat,
With dated representations -
    And they're authentic ones at that.

You can pan for gold at the creek,
    Write some lines with inkwell and quill,
See bread baked the colonial way
    Or a blacksmith at his anvil.

There's a, pre-plastics, bowling lane -
    With everything made in wood;
A painted-photo studio,
    And a saloon built as they stood.

Ride in a draft-horse drawn carriage,
    See the front gardens of the day,
Read-up on mining history,
    Or watch costumed-revellers play.

And, just beside the "old" village,
    Should you decide to see some more,
There's homely accommodation;
    But heed - Kooris came long before.

(C) David Franks 2003
From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:52 AM

Still waiting for an answer about the BBC WAV. I make this the thirteenth time you've posted this particular piece of crap, by the way, which tends to prove that Spaw was correct in asserting;
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.
As far as the Hotel; well googled, WAV. What does Blackheath have to do with it, then?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 12:20 PM

If you are so all-knowing, Sire Tim, why do you have to ask? And since I'm not, what do you think of my above proposal "One Rugby?"...a good fast game, that may need to be played over a reduced period, due to the increased pace..?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 12:56 PM

Poem 99 of 340 ONE RUGBY ? what sort of shite is that ?

Your " poetry sucks "
It has been posted repeatedly before
It is full of bigoted and racist statements
That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 03:35 PM

Your proposal for 'one rugby' as posted above is one of the biggest pieces of mindless crap I've ever seen, spouted by an ignorant fool with no real knowledge of the game or its history. The author has clearly failed to grasp the principle of separate development of the two codes, which is odd given his propensity to take this view when referring to cultures and races. Well, you did ask me what I think... I also think that;

Your " poetry sucks "
It has been posted repeatedly before
It is full of bigoted and racist statements
That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.
This is evidenced by the fact that the same execrable verse was posted in early November, thus demonstrating Spaw's Second Law of WAVcrap; in case you've forgotten it, I detail the Laws below;
Your " poetry sucks "
It has been posted repeatedly before
It is full of bigoted and racist statements
That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

The point about Blackheath, WAV, is that I know and you don't. Another difference is that I don't presume to lecture people who have greater knowledge or expertise than my own. In your case, this includes just about everything apart from fork-truck driving, and even that is questionable; if you were any good at fork-truck driving, you'd have a job by now.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 04:43 PM

At post 999, I can tell you the fork-lift licence was intended for emergencies - when the regular driver was not available.
And, for the rest of your false accusations, I refer you to my above posts.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: open mike
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 05:12 PM

one thousand