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Mudcat Campfire

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katlaughing 05 Jul 05 - 09:07 PM
LilyFestre 05 Jul 05 - 01:06 AM
GUEST,MMario 15 Jun 05 - 07:52 AM
JennyO 15 Jun 05 - 06:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 09:56 PM

Oh...Joe, come on over here and share a blanket and some JD while I sing you a rousing chorus of "Long Live The Pope". If you are extra good I will nominate you and your dimples/blue eyes for the position of Mudcat ToyBoy. I have influence in that realm, you know.

You have taken a beating lately. How often do you have to be told not to feed the trolls? The little bastards bite and often cause festering infections that take months to heal. Nothing a little JD and a hug can't cure.

Shove over Seamus. Make room for Joe. And don't pig out on those marshmallows.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 09:51 PM

It's just a temporary glitch, Mick. Wander through the thread about Barry's recent surgery and Kendall's latest medical report - nothing but good wishes and good feelings from good friends.

So who's coming to the Lobster Boil and Jed Marum's concert? PM me Mick. There will be two special guests you may want to connect with. And Jeri is coming to Jed's concert. There is always room for an oversized Irishman with or without the ring.

I hate Kumbaya. How about "California Dreaming" and "Satisfaction"?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 09:07 PM

Sure is nice to see the old campfire, again, Alice. Good to see you lot, all o'ya, too. Nice tribute, JennyO! Mick, I hear ya and raise ya a hundred times feeling the same way.:-)

Cowboy songs around the campfire is how I was raised, always brings my dad to mind...we'd always beg for the sorrowful ones, Little Joe the Wrangler, When the Work's All Done This Fall and a coupla fun ones, too.

Give me a tall glass o'water with a pinch of sea salt, please? It's been too hot here to keep a body going at all without the pause that refreshes.*wink*

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: LilyFestre
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 01:06 AM

*stumbling into the Mudcat Campfire Circle* and planting myself on an old log. Do any of you remember a song called the Cannibal King? I learned it with hand motions at Girl Scout Camp....

It goes something like this:

Oh the cannibal king with the big nose ring
Fell in love with a fair young maid
And every night by the pale moonlight
Across the lake he came
with a hug and a kiss for his pretty little miss
Under the bamboo treeEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee

Barump *kiss kiss* Barump *kiss kiss*
Barump oddy oddy AAAaaaAAAAA
Barump *Kiss kiss* Barump *kiss kiss*
Barump Oddy oddy AAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAA

I'll build a bungaloo big enough for two
Big enough for two my honey
big enough for two
And when we're married, Happy we'll be
Under the bamboo, under the bamboo tree

If you'll be M-I-N-E mine
I'll be T-H-I-N-E thine
And I'll L-O-V-E love you
All the T-I-M-E time

Shave and a hair cut: 2 bits
Gas in a match tank: BOOM BOOM


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:52 AM

Someone grab bert's credit card if we're headed back to the tavern.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:51 AM

Looks like I'd better head on over to the Mudcat Tavern Nouveau ! That seems to be where all the action is. I'll just take my Guinness and toast over there!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:22 AM

Yoo hoo - Joe Offer! I'm here and ready to give you that virtual backrub I promised you!

Got a keg of Guinness with me too.

Here's a few to go on with - (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_)

And here's a toast to Max and the Mudcat, and all who sail in her.

TO MUDCAT - LONG MAY SHE LIVE TO RISE AND RISE AGAIN!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: open mike
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 09:35 PM

i am preparing a yule log to throw on the fire...
and how about some hot apple cider to add to the grog?
what's that i see? a horse-drawn wagon bringing another load
of revellers to join in the celebration?? ahh--listen to those
harness bells -- how they jingle!! and an old fashioned
long handled pop corn popper for making snacks over the fire!
rise up oh flame....by thy light glowing,
show to us beauty, vision and joy!

and thanks for the Si Kahn tune "WHAT YOU DO WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT."
posted earlier...what a wonderful song...any one know more?
cannot find it in d.t.--message saiys not found...may be a glitch...
from way out here in the woods, no wonder the connection is iffy....
woould like to know where to get a recording of this...perhaps
Dick Gaughan has done it??? i hope i can play it on my radio show..

anybody know any good ghost stories??


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 09:04 AM

Montana residents were some of the first to get online back in the late '80's through a program called "Big Sky Telegraph". It was a state bulletin board project with helpers trained in many towns, often teachers or libarians, who helped people get access to computers, modems, and learn how to use them. I signed up in 1988 to be one of the "telegraphers" getting, at the time, a floppy disc for the BBS free from Frank Odasz at Western Montana University in Dillon. All I had to pay for was the long distance calls to Dillon to connect. One of our state senators, Conrad Burns, has been a long time promoter of internet access to rural areas and schools.
An intersting history of it here:
Case Study - Big Sky Telegraph


Happy virtual campfires,

Alice


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 04:13 PM

Monkey See Monkey Do.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 02:24 AM

Alice----'way out there in the wilderness, how the hell did you get on the Mudcat???


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Amos
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 12:29 AM

Dang, lemme pull up a stump, LEJ, and hand me a Sam Adams. I am bone weary and a little nervous about the world, let me say. And sitting with my knees pointing at the fire and just listening to it crackle to the stars ad watching the pines silhouetted before the moon is my idea of thebest possible way to unwind.

Maybe its just me, being less knowledgeable than some in such matters, but one of the finest campfire songs I know is that simple one:

Eyes like the morning star
Cheeks like the rose!
Laurie was a pretty gal,
God Almighty knows.
Hear that lonesome whistle blow,
Hear the coyote wail.
All up and down along
The Colorado trail.

Regards, and thanks,

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 12:12 AM

Light the kindling again, LEJ.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 02:56 AM

Another year on the old campfire. Worth visiting again for the cider and the stories.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 06:54 PM

Well,I found the campfire ring from our fire last year,I've piled some leaves,pine branches and kindling in it.Anyone have a light?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 28 Jul 99 - 02:05 AM

This campfire is getting so slow to load, it may be time for it to follow the example of the tavern.
It feels good to be back in a light cotton dress again. That heavy velvet gown was fun to dress up in, but incredibly impractical. I don't know how ladies did anything with all the cumbersome clothes they use to wear. The hardest part, though, was getting those ringlets to stay in my hair.

Well, it is still a summer night, and the lure of the woods is upon me. I think I'll check out the stars for awhile.


HALLEY'S COMET


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Subject: Lyr Add: COOL WATER (Bob Nolan)
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 08:18 PM

Well, the temperature is getting hot even here.... time to head back up the mountainside for our evening campfire. Amazing how quickly the air cools after the orange and purple sunset clouds fade to stars. I have photos from my Virginia City re-enactment experience, and a few sound clips I will try to post tonight.

COOL WATER
(Bob Nolan, 1936)

All day I've faced a barren waste
Without a taste of water
Cool water.
Old Dan and I with throats burnt dry
And souls that cry for water
Cool, clear water.

Refrain Keep amovin' Dan, don't you listen to him, Dan
He's a devil, not a man, and he spreads the burning sand
With water.
Dan, can you see that big green tree
Where the water's running free and its waiting there for you
And me.

The nights are cool and I'm a fool
Each star's a pool of water
Cool water.
But with the dawn I'll wake and yawn
And carry on to water
Cool, clear water.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: LEJ
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 06:45 PM

Kat- That might have been the ghost of the old Wanderin' Hobo, showing you where the legendary Treasure of Chief Ouray was hidden!:)

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 05:53 PM

Alice, on Sunday we had smoke filling our valley. The radio said it was from a fire in the Bighorns in Wyoming and from the one in Montana. The wind had brought it. It was a weird weekend all round in Wyoming. 8 people killed in car wrecks and a couple of other deaths, as well as the ehat and that smoke.

Cara, sorry I didn't see your post about the Blari Witch movie til now. We saw a documentary on it on the Independent Film Channel last week. It was scary because it was real and used actual footage. I cannot imagine how horrendous the movie must be. Not stuff to mess with.

Now some good ole' M.R. James ghost stories....best ever written.

LEJ: that is fascinating. Interesting how "little ones" tune in without our knowing it. When I was a kid, living in a big old country Victorian, on the Western Slope of Colorado, I woke up one night because I'd heard somebody digging wiht a shovel. My window faced east and there was a huge old cottonwood tree across the driveway from it. There by the light of the moon, I saw a man, kind of a hobo looking guy, digging at the base of the tree. when I asked mom in the morning who had been digging under the tree she told me nobody that she or dad knew of. That house's attic was spooky to me at that age:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: DougR
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 01:07 AM

Alice, I thought of you when I heard about the forest fires on the evening news. Those fires are so horrible. Necessary, I guess, to balance the forces of nature, but heartbreaking to those who live in their path.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: WyoWoman
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 01:03 AM

Cara--I know what you mean. I don't go to any movies that advertise being about ghosts or goblins or things that go bump in the night. Why would I PAY to have someone scare the bejabbers out of me? I pride myself on being a pretty straight-up kind of person and looking life right in the face. But that whole arena is one I simply don't want to know about, thenkyew very much. There may very well be spooky stuff out there, but I'll choose to avoid any such knowledge as long as I can.

Let's get back to singing songs. I'm too easy when it comes to scaring half-to-death.

Let's do a lovely little round from my college days: the Collegiate Version of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat." Ready:

"Propel, propel, propel your vessel Placidly down the liquid solution. Ecstatically, ecstatically, ecstatically, Existence is but a delusion..."

Ok, 'Spaw, you start out with Group 1. Kat, you take Group 2, and Big Mick, would you please get Group 3 outta the bushes and ready for their part in this round?

WW


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jul 99 - 12:51 AM

There is a large forest fire burning up the Musselshell, Montana area that my grandparents homesteaded, where my mother grew up. Be careful with that campfire and its embers.

Smokey the Bear, Smokey the Bear Prowlin' and a-growlin' and a sniffin' the air ...

(All together now, it's in the DT.) I know I have the sheet music someplace, just don't know exactly where.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: LEJ
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 03:18 PM

Can such things Be?

This little tale doesn't rank with Penny or WW or Katlaf's stories, but I thought I would offer it as a corroboration of certain strange phenomena.

My wife, her daughter, our infant daughter(at the time) and I lived in a mountain home that was built in 1928. The house had a very positive and comfortable feel, but my wife and my step-daughter often mentioned, well out of the hearing of the little one, voices being heard from the kitchen. I had never heard them, until one night after all three of them had left for a visit to relatives in California. I woke up at about 3 AM, listening to the dull and muted interchange of several voices. I could aaalmost make out what they were saying, but not quite. I had just awakened, and in that confused state thought that my wife and her daughter were in the kitchen, speaking quietly so as to not awaken anyone. Then I remeembered they were gone. I decided that I had left the TV or a radio on, and got out of bed. As I entered the front room and saw that the appliances were all shut off, I also noticed that the voices had stopped.

We moved two years ago, and I asked my daughter (the former infant I had mentioned) if she liked the new house better. "Yeah, I guess. I miss some of my friends in the neighborhood." Then she thought for a second. "And it's not as scary at night. At least I don't hear people whispering in the kitchen all night long."

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Cara
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:34 PM

I must say that this thread is great. BUT, I saw the scariest mivie of my life this weekend ("the Blair Witch Project") and the ghost stories creeped me out all over again. I don't know how many of you have seen this movie, but I was so frightened I actually cried, and I'm not that spook-able.

I love a campfire though...always reminds me of how I cried when I fist heard "One Tin Soldier", sung by children's voices. Can we sing that? And "A Pair of Brown Eyes"? And "Barges"? And "Rare Ould Times" again, since I missed it? And could someone pass the bug spray?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: DougR
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 12:09 PM

Big Mick, you give up far too quickly! If I could have a weekend such as the one you described, I would glady share any secrets I might have with you! It really sounds like all of you had a great time. Now as to the serious stuff, REALLY sharing my secrets of success with the opposite gender, I guess you'd have to ask my wife of 48 years that. We met on a blind date at college, went to a movie (Jolson Sings Again) and she went to sleep. I was absolutely shocked that she went to sleep with me on our first date. The fact that several hundred others were in close promimity while she snoozed notwithstanding. So that shows you how interesting I am!

Alice, we took our family to Ennis, Montana to fish O'Dell Creek and the mighty Madison several years ago, and drove over to Virginia City for a visit. A great place! Wish I could have been there to hear you perform.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 11:24 AM

Well, folks, I must share "Aura Lee" with you, since the Victorian Days program is still going 'round in my head. A lovely song for around the campfire.

I checked the Virginia City website and thought I would share it with you, since it is the kind of history you would enjoy. The city started by being in Idaho Territory, then the Montana Territory was formed, encompassing Virginia City. It was a Confederate gold mining town during the Civil War, but came under the control of the Union Government. Talk about political controversy!

Here is the history of Virginia City, Montana.

The boardwalks are still there, the wooden and stone houses, and many were closed up with everything left inside - stores, offices, and houses. Not all was vandalized, because it was protected and preserved well enough for the town to remain intact. You can look in the windows and see clothing, furniture, etc that is original. The house I stayed overnight in had the interior walls exposed to the planks. There were pencil signatures with flourishes and dates from the 1800's on the wood walls, with two penciled penmanship doves.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 12:28 AM

Nice to see you here, Lloyd.

G'night.

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: lloyd61
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 10:30 PM

It's Sunday night, I've enjoyed all you tonight.

Sing with me, you know the words....

Now the day is over, night is drawing nigh shadows of the evening steal across the sky.

Good night.

Lloyd


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 09:59 PM

Well you guys obviously had a great weekend!!! And Bob, please rest assured the possum is in a safe place and on display at the same time.......He is truly a one of a kind from a very special friend.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 09:50 PM

Big Mick ~ It certainly was a great time last night on the lake shore. Couldn't have been better and then there was that great breeze that came in from the lake to blow away those hungry mosquitoes.

After hearing Barbara's description of the building of the OPOSSUM I doubt if many of could afford to buy one. Catspaw should take great care of that treasure of his.

I agree with all your comments about Barbara and her wonderful family. I think I'm going to junk my old Yamaha 12 string and start looking for a Guild. Your Guild was, without a doube, the easiest playing 12 stings that I've ever had in my hands. It's amazing how fast time flies when you are having fun...

Oh the night has gone so quickly and the time has almost come~~~~For the fiddler and the piper, the singer and the song~~~~~~The time has come for us to leave you, one more song before we go~~~~~bundle up and aye be cheery, have a dram before ye go......

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 08:46 PM

I give up DougR, it appears I am no match for you, you son of a gun. Would you teach me how you do this???? hahqahahahahahaha

I had a great weekend, my friends around the campfire of Blessings Barbara and family. Cap'n Bob was their and we sat up until all hours singing songs and enjoying the company of one another. Her family is lovely, her husband Mark harmonizes very nicely, her brother Jamie and his wife play jigs, reels and hornpipes on the whistle and guitar, her brother Stewart is one of the nicest folks I have ever met, her niece Fiona and her nephew Keagan (both with red hair) are two perfect little charmers and her partents are free with the hospitality and lovely to talk too. All things considered, it was one of the nicer singarounds I have been to. Ole Cap'n Bob hauled out some GREAT songs, and is very good on his Martin and his tenor banjo. And nobody minded me hauling out my bodhran. And of course, my Guild just loved the company. The dog next door did swipe my shoe, but we fielded a search party and found it in about a half hour. So how did the weekend go?? Couldn't have gone better.

Glad to be back at the campfire though. Now, Doug R, you have to teach me those moves, doggone it all. LOL

Mick


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Alice
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 03:02 PM

alison, go to CDnow and type in the title. It will bring up all the recordings they have, several by different people. That's where I found the one I posted. I played a few different real audio clips, and I think they have bits and pieces that make up the whole song.

I just drove back from Virginia City, Montana's Victorian Days celebration, where I was the singer last night at the Victorian Ball. It was great, with a program I did onstage in the ballroom, then another one upstairs after 'victuals' in a room with high tin ceilings (bright sound, much better than the stage/dancefloor). Everyone was dressed in late 19th century clothing, including a couple of cavalry men. It was wonderful to see people getting into the 'act'.

Just before I was introduced, a lady whispered to me to stop at some point in the program and call out for "Tom" to come to the center of the dance floor... he planned to propose to his girlfriend. So, after my first two songs, I called out to the audience asking if there was someone named Tom who could come to the center of the room for a special moment. It took them a bit to find his girlfriend, since she had stepped out to the boardwalk for some fresh air. She came in, and he went down on one knee and pulled out the engagement ring. It was great, and an added romantic twist to the night for everyone.

If I have a good photo from last night, I will post it later. It's good to be back. "Home, Home, sweet, sweet, home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home." I did get another 'gig' from this and also met musicians that may work with me in the future.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 10:01 AM

Hi, PennyS. I think that makes perfect sense. When we get such feelings it is usually for a good reasona nd to our benefir to pay attention. we can attract anything which we dwell on or are open to. Some things are best left alone. Sounds to me like you have a pretty good idea of how to handle such things. I have an old wood framed mirror about 4 feet tall.

Here's another from when we lived in Massachusetts: It was winter in New England. We'd jst had a cold night of snow, then warmer rain, sleet, then snow. As a result, there was glare ice under a small dusting of snow. Very deceptive. As I stepped down two wooden steps to go into my office that morning, my feet slipped out from under me and I fell flat on my back, hitting my head on the step edge, which knocked me out. Did the whole ambulance bit, concussion, stiches, etc.

Anyway, we lived in a very old, for the USA! (1700's,) house which was divided in half. It was a former school. We had the whole attic, and half of the first and second floors. There was a built in bookshelf in the wall of the stairs going up, in the downstairs living room. One of my cats, Miss Pitty-Pat, who was quite fey, used to always stare at that space as if she saw something we didn't.

I was sent home from hospital with instructions to my son and brother of what to watch for any complications. Other than feeling like my head was exploding from pain, I began to recover. By the time Roger returned from field work in California, I was on the mend and able to get up, take a bath, etc, without too much help.

The door to the attic, where our son's bedroom was, was in our bedroom. One night, just after Roger came home, I was in bed reading. He was takign a bath just across the hall. I felt a rush of air and thought Colin was coming through from his bedroom upstairs. When I looked up, I saw a beautiful woman, rather filmy looking, with her hair piled high and a very Victorian high-necked dress on. She was very genteel looking. I got the impression she wanted to sit in my antique rocker, but I was concerned for her because i knew Rog would be coming in, in his brithday suit, any minute and that it would shock and dismay her to see him that way (NOT because of his looks:-)

Anyway, I remember talking to her and urging her to please leave, explaining that he would be in there soon. It seemed to take a bit of convincing, but there was nothing scary about it, just concern and a bit of miscomprehension on her part. She did just fade away in a few minutes. I often wonder if she was a "school marm".

Never did figure out what the cat saw.

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Penny S
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 09:05 AM

Now down at the Internet Cafe.

Some time after I moved in, I became aware of something in my spare room. This was after I had my twin nieces to stay, separately, their first time away by themselves. One of them did have a nightmare or two, but I had put that down to being away from home. When I became aware of this feeling, I worried a bit about their having been in there, but they (now adult) have told me they never noticed anything, so that's all right. Anyway, I became aware of this feeling, and it was very unpleasant. I became increasingly unwilling to go in there. I asked a friend to go in there, and he felt it too, though we can't be absolutely sure that this is independent corroboration, as he knew I was asking for some reason, and knew I wouldn't be doing so for a smell of roses. All I could think of to do was to make sure I went in there to pray. Not to exorcise, just to make sure that whatever it was was aware that I called on God, and also that I was not going to be expelled from a part of my home. In 1987, we had our big wind, and a friend of the friend I mentioned lost his mobile home (the roof peeled off like the lid of a tin of sardines), and I agreeed to put him up until it was replaced. I was a little worried about this. However, it turned out that he was very religious, and made a habit of reading the offices (Matins, Compline, etc) every day. There has been nothing in there since. He never noticed anything. Another friend who has slept there didn't either, and when we asked him, in connection with the phantom doorbell ringer, he said the house had a very good feel about it. But I do sense that something may be about outside sometimes, and I don't want to draw its attention. Does that make sense?

The doorbell ringer story may be entirely electronic, and as I was going to try to use it in another leprechaun story, you'll have to wait. But that one is corroborated by a NASA astrophysicist, and some Cambridge physicists, too!

Penny (who slept quite weel last night.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Penny S.
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 07:25 AM

LEJ, sorry about jumping in like that - it was very much the middle night, and as soon as I'd done it, I thought "that was a typo", but I really, really, didn't want to dwell too much on that posting, and I couldn't bring myself to drop back in and say anything. Not because of greatcoat man, but because thinking about him twitched some other memories better left.

The nearest anyone will get to an explanation of that is for me to say that after I posted the leprechaun story the other week, and there had been a brief discussion about leaving cream out, I thought it would be a joke to do so, really, so that I could then post and say what happened to it. (Rational me was having conniption fits over this, but I didn't want to joke about it as if I'd done it, if I hadn't.) Anyway, I was on my way downstairs to the front door with a medicine measure of top-of-the-milk with apple spirit when something in my mind said, very strongly, "Don't invite anything in." So I didn't.

And if I write any more of these, from my own experience, I will be doing just that.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 12:09 AM

OK. True ghost story from moi:

When I was in college in Oklahoma, many years ago, I had a friend, Sarah, who decided to move off-campus into an apartment of her own. The only thing she could afford was a tiny apartment in the corner of the basement of an old, two-story house on the other side of town from the campus. Everyone tried to convince Sarah that this was a bad idea, but she was determined to have her own place.

So when the day came for her to move out of the dorm, I offered to help her move in to her new place. We packed her little bunch of earthly goods and drove across town to her "new" apartment. The second I walked in, I got the creeps. It was dank and poorly lit and had simply a terrible feeling to it. But I tried to be cheery and was burbling along in the kitchen with Sarah as we unpacked. The "kitchen" was actually just one end of the long, single room, and after a while the both of us felt something truly dreadful.

We looked to the far end of the room, in the far corner and saw an almost human figure about a foot above the floor. We couldn't make out any features, but the figure looked as though it were of brown smoke -- a general human shape, but no identifying arms or legs.

We looked at each other for one terrified second and as soon as we were certain the other had seen it, we tore up the stairs, leaped in my car and left as though the Devil were on our tail.

She called the landlord the next day and insisted that he give her the rent back ... and she told him why. He seemed very upset, but agreed to send her a check for the full amount, including deposit. We convinced a couple of friends (guys, of course) to go over and get her things and bring them back to the dorm.

A few days later, Sarah told this story to a woman in the grocery store where she worked part-time, and the woman got absolutely ashen. That man, she said, had been accused and had stood trial for killing his wife, allegedly in that very basement. There wasn't sufficient evidence to convict, she said, but everyone believed he was guilty.

I didn't believe in ghosts, and still don't necessarily. But I believe there was something deeply strange and awful in that house.

ww


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: alison
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 11:46 PM

(Thanks Alice... is the verse the same? if not send it too and I'll put the whole tune in the DB)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 11:38 PM

PennY... actually I didn't even realize I had mis-typed your name until you called my attention to it. Sorry, it was just my lousy typing, not an attempt to stick you with a nick-name.

Very eerie story. I love these! Anybody else?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Penny S.
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 08:26 PM

LEJ, I'm not really comfortable with Penn...

You asked for the story about the ghost in my house.

It was some years ago, on a night when I had been finding it hard to sleep. The room was not blacked out well, and the street lights made it possible to see. Each time I started to drop off, there would be some small sound, a beam creaking in the loft (roof space) perhaps, that woke me again. It's not an old house, but what we call a maisonette, built in the sixties, two floors, but with a flat belonging to someone else underneath. There is only one entrance door, at ground level, and it would be noisy if anyone entered it by force. It was built on the site of a Victorian house, and maybe my bedroom occupies the space of its attic. Not that I think that had anything to do with what happened next. At about 1.30, I saw the door of the room open, and a man came in and walked towards me. I was able to see him clearly while a part of me was very rationally trying to work out what to do. He was tall, with longish, lank dark hair, and a worn face with smoker's creases. Not unpleasant, though. He was wearing an old dark greatcoat, with his hands in the pockets. I could not see down below pocket level. He resembled one of my brothers-in-law, or perhaps the actor Jimmy Nail, without being completely like either. There was no doubt in my that a real person was in my room. As he walked towards me, I was thinking that he was between me and the phone, wondering how he had got in without my hearing, and trying hard to think how to defend myself, deciding in the end to sit up, and turn on the bedside light, and try talking. Strangely, in spite of anticipating the worst, I was not afraid. I suppose that it could have been a dream, except that, after I turned on the light, it took a moment for him to fade and disappear. And I was fully awake, awake enough to get out of bed and move the phone. The door, by the way, was shut.

Some time later, I found that he also resembled the character played by Alan Rickman in the film "Truly, Madly, Deeply," which existed at the time, but which I had not seen, not even a small clip or publicity photo. I had the feeling that he was a stranger, passing through, who was, for some reason, coming to look at me. Someone familiar with the layout of the house. Just an ordinary fella who happened to be dead. Not malign in any sense. He has never been back. I am not, however, typing this on the usual computer, which is plugged into the extension in my bedroom. This is going on to the Mudcat without being re-read there.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Angus McSweeney
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 05:54 PM

Oh, I can hear you! I'm gettin' chills! Keep it up...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: WyoWoman
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 05:32 PM

I've got buns. Um, I mean... THE buns...

And I'm harmonizing with you real purty, Angus. C'n you hear me?

WW


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 05:20 PM

That's not a breeze Peter, it's Banj's breath. HEY...Where's Paul G.???? I want some more of his song.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Angus McSweeney
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 05:18 PM

"Did you ever see a night so long, When time goes driftin' by? The moon just went behind some clouds, I'm so lonesome I could cry.

"Then silence of a falling star Lights up the purple sky. As I wonder where you are tonight, I'm so lonesome I could cry."

You all know I'm not one bit lonesome, really, with this fine group sittin' round and sharing tunes. I'm playing this one in C and doin' a little drop on the A-string with the beat...C,B, A, down to G...you guitar players know what I'm talking about. We could sure use some mouth harp on this one and a few high sweet harmonies...there are a few more verses...someone want to take it? And who's that across the fire from me stirring the red hot coals with a branch? Can't quite make out the face from here...sing us a verse, maybe we'll recognise you.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 05:10 PM

LEJ, is that one of those umbrellas that turns inside out if a breeze comes up?
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: LEJ
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 04:56 PM

I will stop in later to hear Penn's story. I'll also bring some more Bratwursts if somebody else brings buns. Stop in the Tavern for a half-price umbrella drink tonight!

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: DougR
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 04:17 PM

Big Mick, you don't scare me a bit! As long as I have Alison on one side and bbc on the other (both slightly ahead of me of course) I feel completely safe here in the dark. They respect their elders and I know they will take good care of me!

bbc, I'll try to get Velma into the Mudcat Tavern sometime today. She likes cheap red wine, if you got any.

Alice, I heard an interesting story about that song you referred to. Seems that Gene Autry was auditioning for a side-kick and Smiley Burnet auditioned. Autry heard interviewed several others and listened to Smiley sing. He ask Smiley if he could write songs and Smiley allowed as how he could. He went away and returned the next day with "Riding Down the Canyon," which Autry bought from him for, I believe, $10.00. No wonder Gene Autry died a very rich man.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 03:37 PM

While we're all waiting for the tale, let me say a Thank You to Leej and Alice for starting the two best, uh, I hate this word, but let's say "Healing" threads possible. And thanks to everyone for leaping in and playing. You are a very healthy group and have sorted through the chaff without suffocating from the dust. Great combinations of song, opinion, imagination, and humor. What a prescription for mental health here at the 'Cat. So my "Special" thanks to Alice, Leej, and all of you......

Well damn, I was gonna' throw a song at you here, but I forgot what I had in mind. Probably just as well since I'm lousy anyway ........and I've got a nasty case of virtual nausea from last nite.......not from the Jack, but I keep thinkin' about that dance with Banj...................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Penny S.
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 03:22 PM

I never said it was in the attic! Can't stop now, as I'm off to the woods with the glow-worms, a bunch of kids and some angling lights (in case we don't see any ofn the real thing).

Penny


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 02:01 PM

Penny - I'd like to hear it too! I had a dream once that could have been one of those "ghostly messenger" things when an aunt died, but I don't think visits from the departed count if you're asleep. I love to hear other people's stories!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Campfire
From: LEJ
Date: 24 Jul 99 - 01:46 PM

Penny, please tell us about the attic ghost,ok?


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