BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:17 PM

It's really a problem if they went underground 12,000 years ago. They've probably got a lot of connections by now.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 05:52 PM

Not to mention tunnels. You know how moles are...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM

My wiener dogs DO have plans to take over the world...but they aren't doing it for Iraq. They're doing it strictly for themselves. They don't give a tiddly about Iraq, I can assure you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:14 PM

Right. That's what ALL terrorists say at first.

Just wait until they get the signal to activate.



A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:49 PM

And badger dogs would be real good at going underground.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:52 PM

Come on, ya'll... When we start with these kinds of humorous tangents it's like poo-pooin' the crux of the thread which is the hypothesis that the Tea Party should be viewed as a terrorist organization because they are out there preachin' violence... To bring up this or that as being a terrorist organization just plays into Sawz simplistic attempt to take a seroius situation and turn it into a joke.... It won't be a joke when one of these nutballs starts shooting at what he percieves as socialists....

As fir his philosphy lesson??? It more like math and less like real world thinking... Math won't solve squat if and when the right thiknks ut's justified in killing progressives.... We have seen that in our life times and it ain't anything we need to see again...

Please... No more jokes unless ya'll is on the right... That's all they have...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:22 PM

It seems that every 'meet and greet' I've attended has been called a Tea Party, so I guess it's become sort of a generic term now. So far no 'how can we obstruct' types of discussions; no Obama is an illegal president; not even Obama is a Socialist. The candidates have spoken about how they feel Conservatives have a valid message based on Constitutional interpretation and action, and how it differs from Liberal interpretation. About the most terrorist they've gotten is to say they plan to beat the bejesus out of Liberals in the coming election at the ballot box.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:41 PM

Okay, John, come to a liberals defense when the next Repub is elected presdient and a liberal shows up at one on his rallies with a gun straped to his leg and a sign talkin' about killin'... Yeah, be sure to mark that down on your list of things you'll do when the tables are turned...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:06 PM

Whaaat?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:48 AM

"abstract formulations" are in you head Amos. They are your creation, devoid of the facts that constitute reality.

Bobert: That Stack Guy was a guitar picker, He loved country Music and he hated Bush like you

Therefore whatever he did can be blamed on you. You are telling people to buy guns and talking about shooting people. A revolt. Terrorist talk.

Is this a Bobert quote or a stack Quote?

"The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government."

"Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes"

"I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different."

"The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need."

Are you sure you didn't help him write that left wing drivel Bobert?

Did he mention Obama One time?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 08:35 AM

Stack is a straw man, Sawz...

Apparently, you haven't gotten the jist of this thread yet which tells me that either you are missing some wiring or you are in denial... Really doesn't much matter which one to me... It's plain as the nose on one's face that you ain't gonna get it...

But one more time... We are talkin' about a larger problem/issue/situation than one man here...

Yeah, John, that's right!!! What if it had been a group of very rowdy, heavily armed Black Panther lookin' dudes accross the street from a Bush rally??? And they we carrying signs talking about violence... What's not to get here??? You gonna defend these guys??? You gonna say they are just exercising their 1st and 2nd ammmendment rights??? Come on, man... Yer smarter than this... Well, let me put it this way, I thought you were smarter than this...

Bottom line, when we not only allow people to act in a mob rule manner but give them face time all over the media it sends out a very strong message... That message is one that I hear 14 and 15 year kids in the local general store mouthing... How many times have you heard a white man say that he'd like someone to "kill that nigger" in reference to Obama??? I've heard it many times over the last couple of years... Ya' see, we have created a culture where that is acceptable... One where these folks aren't not being told that that is not right... I don't know if you havbe ever lived in the South but I've lived in it most of my life and I've stumbled on Klan rallies, I've seen burned crosses, I've seen a sign in Varina, Va, with the crosshairs of a rifle scope painted on a 20 foot sign with the words "Niggers and Communists Beware" and "Minutemen" painted right under that... These are all things I witnessed prior to the assasination of Bobby Kennedy and Martine Luther King...

I mean, it may seem innocent enough to you, John, for an angry white man to camp out accross the street froman Obama rally with a gin strapped to his leg and a sign that implies that it is his patriotic duty to spill someoen elses blood in the name of his politics but...

...it ain't okay in my book... Seen that movie and the ending doesn't look much like America...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:10 AM

Sawz:

Lissen to this guy. Even with his pot and his shine and his artificial country grammar, he has more understanding of the flow of things in one earlobe than some of us--including you--have in our whole haids. Listen well, grasshopper.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 11:04 AM

Shucks, Amos... You gonna blow my cover here, son... lol...

But, yeah, I was kinda blessed with an ability to cut thru the crap and anaylize stuff purdy good... I recall back in college VCU hired T. Edward Temple, who was the governor's Commissioner of the Administration, to facilitate a seminar in "Contemorary Urban Problems" and the class size was limited to 10 students, 3 from the left, 3 from the right and 4 in-tweeners... Over 1000 students applied with their differing perspectives and knowledge bases and I was chosen as one of the 3 leftists... One of the so called in-tweeners was the college presdient, Warren Brandt, who IMO was a rightie so the real make-up of the class was 3 lefties, 3 moderates and 4 righties... At the end of the year the 3 of us on the left had pried all 3 moderates over to the left and were workin' hard on one of the righties, Andy Canada... 'Bout a month after the school year I get a call from Andy, who BTW was the head of the Pharmacy Department at Medical College of Virginia and he tells me that, ahhhhhhhh, not only had he come 'round but that he had hooked up with one of his (liberal) assistant profs!!! Go figure???

Not that that means anything in the big scheme of things, mind you... But I am blessed with an ability to see thru bullshit when it is habded to me as the Holy Grail...

But thanks fir the compliment, non the less, 'ol son...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 03:29 PM

Bobert: You are using Stack as a straw man as something you use to hang something on teabaggers.

He is like you Bobert. Not the teabaggers. Do you see any signs anywhere or any AK47s strapped on his leg?

Lead affects the brain first.

Let this poor deranged fellow Bush hater rest in peace.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 03:35 PM

Bobert used Stacks deranged hatefulness culminating in violent destruction as a SYMBOL, Sawz.

A symbol represents something, and the trick is to correctly grasp what it is that it represents. If you get the symbolism wrong, the dialogue will go haywire at that point.

In this case you got the symbolism wrong. Bobert made a valid point about certain siumilarities between the blind hatred of Stack (in his penultimate days) and the kind of vociferous hatred that characterizes some Teabag Party adherents, although not all of them.

His POINT was not about Stack but about a cultural environment that inculcates and nurtures hatred and destruction in the guise of false colors such as patriotism and resistance to tyranny, using those as excuses when there are none.

Capiche?

Bitte seien Sie nicht ein Ananasgehirn beim Vortäuschen, ein intelligenter Mensch zu sein.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:12 PM

The same symbolisim applies to tax dodging Moonshiners, guitar pickers who hate GWB, dope dealers and professors who rabidly support Obama.

Therefore those groups are dangerous and terrorists.

If you can possibly make that abstract formulation.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:53 PM

Well Bobert, I would say one of us is wrong. You thought I wouldn't support or make exuses for gun toters on the right. I wouldn't have thought you would tar a whole movement by a few fringies. As I don't condone violence, or threats of violence against those I disagree with, it's not you who is wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:56 PM

Write in haste, write wrong. Last clause should read "it is I who was wrong."

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:03 PM

Well, I dunno anyone who rabidly supports Obama, myself. It is kinda inconsistent, him attracting the more reflective and thoughtful sort.

I hasten to agree with John that the whole Tea Party movement should not be tarred. Bobert points out correctly that in the media at least, multiple instances of hate speech and incitement to violence have been observed at some Tea Parties. That was his point, not some sweeping all-embracive generalization, if I may venture to interpret his point.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:10 PM

I wish it was just one loose screw in the parts cleaner, John.... Have you seen the signs that these folks carry at their rallies??? Google up "Tea Bagger Photos" and get yerself a look at what these folks are thinkin' and sayin' on their signs... I think yer about to get a real education on these folks...

BTW, I wasn't going to bring this up but what the heck... Also check out the number of these Tea Baggers who are overweight...

(Well, that's their right, Boberdz...)

Yeah, it is... I hope they all have their own helth insurance when this condition starts costing US real money 'cause if ther's one thing that bugs me is having my health insurance go up because I'm helpin' to cover a bunch of rednecks who hate the government who think it is their right to eat whatever they want, whenever they want... Sure, it's their right and it's my right to call them on it when ***they say*** they want less government but will be the ones screamin' the loudest when they they get sick for, ahhhhhh, what??? More government!!! Well, at least where they are concerned...

Purdy strange times we live in...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:16 PM

"That was his point, not some sweeping all-embracive generalization, if I may venture to interpret his point."

NOT according to the thread title. I thought you believed that people should take ownership and responsibility for what they do and post?

And what is it with the name calling and personnal insults? Is your arguement THAT weak that you resort to attacking those who present opposing views, rather than the views themselves? Do you hear us calling you one of the fruits and nuts that live in la-la land ( California)? Obviously we have more evidence of that than you have of the composition of anyone's brain.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 12:38 AM

Amos, You are getting there.

Are Killer whales a terrorist organization?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 02:14 AM

Please don't be stupid, Sawz.

Bruce the thread title has two question marks at the end of it.



A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 07:13 AM

"Are Killer whales a terrorist organization?"

         No, but La Raza is a lot like a school of sharks.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 07:35 AM

Normal, Sawz...

Make jokes about anything that make you uncomfy...

But nevermind that, folks... I am very surprised that no one came to the defense of the over-eating Tea Baggers???

(I know, Sawz.... Are fat people a terrorist organization...)

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 01:05 PM

Those are supposed to be jokes? Wow I'm glad you told me. I can stop trying to make them make sense.

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 11:19 AM

Frank Rich of the NYT writes:

What made that kamikaze mission eventful was less the deranged act itself than the curious reaction of politicians on the right who gave it a pass Ñ or, worse, flirted with condoning it. Stack was a lone madman, and it would be both glib and inaccurate to call him a card-carrying Tea Partier or a ÒTea Party terrorist.Ó But he did leave behind a manifesto whose frothing anti-government, anti-tax rage overlaps with some of those marching under the Tea Party banner. That rant inspired like-minded Americans to create instant Facebook shrines to his martyrdom. Soon enough, some cowed politicians, including the newly minted Tea Party hero Scott Brown, were publicly empathizing with StackÕs credo Ñ rather than risk crossing the most unforgiving brigade in their base.

Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa, even rationalized StackÕs crime. ÒItÕs sad the incident in Texas happened,Ó he said, Òbut by the same token, itÕs an agency that is unnecessary. And when the day comes when that is over and we abolish the I.R.S., itÕs going to be a happy day for America.Ó No one in KingÕs caucus condemned these remarks. Then again, what King euphemized as Òthe incidentÓ took out just 1 of the 200 workers in the Austin building: Vernon Hunter, a 68-year-old Vietnam veteran nearing his I.R.S. retirement. Had Stack the devastating weaponry and timing to match the death toll of 168 inflicted by Timothy McVeigh on a federal building in Oklahoma in 1995, maybe a few of the congressmanÕs peers would have cried foul.

It is not glib or inaccurate to invoke Oklahoma City in this context, because the acrid stench of 1995 is back in the air. Two days before StackÕs suicide mission, The Times published David BarstowÕs chilling, months-long investigation of the Tea Party movement. Anyone who was cognizant during the McVeigh firestorm would recognize the old warning signs re-emerging from the mists of history. The Patriot movement. ÒThe New World Order,Ó with its shadowy conspiracies hatched by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Sandpoint, Idaho. White supremacists. Militias.

Barstow confirmed what the Southern Poverty Law Center had found in its report last year: the unhinged and sometimes armed anti-government right that was thought to have vaporized after its Oklahoma apotheosis is making a comeback. And now it is finding common cause with some elements of the diverse, far-flung and still inchoate Tea Party movement. All it takes is a few self-styled ÒpatriotsÓ to sow havoc....

And here's the earlier story on the Tea Party which he called "chilling".

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 05:52 PM

Yeah, Amos.... Amazing that all it took to bring back the right-winged "Patriot Movement" was the election of a black president...

This is what this is all about... Hey, these people never ever complained about governemnt spending while Bush was going on a spending spree unparalelled in history... But let a black man become president and it's time for the "revolution"... Might of fact, Obama has cut taxes for 95% of workers yet these same people are pissed off and most would tell you that Obama has raised their taxes... And Obama wants to take yer guns.... And Obama isn't a citizen... And, and, and...

...fucking bigots as far as I can see and now they want to kill people???

Yup, this country is way dumbed-down... Too many ignorant bigots can't get enough of the Big Lie... Reminds me of Germany in the late 30s... Lotta same stuff going down...

To all my progressive friends: like Rap has said, buy guns, lots of ammo and learn to shoot straight 'cause these rednecks mean to kill people who ain't like them...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Feb 10 - 10:55 PM

"Barstow confirmed what the Southern Poverty Law Center had found in its report last year:..."

          So one needs to derermine which is worse, the Tea Party movement or the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 07:53 AM

One ain't advocating violence, Rigs... Guess which one...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 08:52 AM

So one needs to derermine which is worse, the Tea Party movement or the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Oh, please. Don't be a jackass.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 12:10 AM

Well, well, well...

It just had to happen... Seems that one Obama votin', cross dressin', Cheney hatin', civil rights lovin', Patriot Act protester had to carry out a WMD / bio-warfare terrorist attacks on the government and then committed suicide.

Anthrax Terrorist Ivins email July 2 2008: Dick Cheney scares me. The Patriot Act is so unconstitutional it's not even funny. The Patriot Act is so unconstitutional it's not even funny is dreadful. What happened to rights, freedoms and liberties? I'm voting for Obama!

Buccal swabs taken from Bruce Edwards Ivins

Are suicidal Obama voters / patriot act haters / Cheney haters / cross dressers a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 01:31 AM

Nutballs.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 05:42 AM

Amos,

I agree that Obama supporters are sometimes nutballs, but ** I ** see no reason to start a thread indicating that.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 07:11 AM

The Tea Baggers ain't got the market captured in mental illness... Actually, suicide is mcuh more prevalent then we woould think because it doesn't make the nightly news like the murders do...

But if we are gointg to pass judegements on elected officials based on thre suicide rates of the folks who wvoted fir them then we are gonna be hard-pressed to find any that are worthy...

But, Part 2, this is just a straw man that has nothing to do with the the dangerously damaging speech and behavior that our country is allowing the Tea Baggers to get away with... Like I have said, if I had strapped a gun to my leg and carried a sign advocating violence to a Bush rally, I would have been arrested or shot, no questions asked...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 10:14 AM

Are anti-war nut jobs a Terrorist Organization??

Gunman killed after shooting 2 Pentagon police

...I am determined to see that justice is served in the death of Colonel James Sabow, as a step toward establishing the truth of events such as the September 11 demolitions and institutions such as the coup regime of 1963 that maintains itself in power through the global drug trade, financial corruption, and murder, among other crimes. My work to develop information currency is an effort to create a framework for information management that uses financial markets to create the economic signals (prices) that will effect complex human actions in the real world based on specified information. My desire for justice led me to violate what I think is one of the most unjust laws, cannabis prohibition, by growing 16 cannabis plants on my balcony in Irvine, CA from March 2006 to June 2006. I've posted the Orange County, CA District Attorney's complaint for this offense at http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/JPatrickBedell_2006-06-06_cannabis_felony....

A stoner too? But Sawzaw, does that mean Stoners are a Terr... Naw. I am not going to make that smug assertion.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 10:31 AM

Good on ya, Sawz, for your discrimination and self-control...


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 11:26 AM

a sign advocating violence

Now imagine yourself with a sign like that with Obama on it instead of Bush anywhere, at any rally, with or without a gun.

You would be arrested or shot with no questions asked.

But with the double standard, lefties can get away with carrying signs like that and whine, cry and suck snot about their freedom being taken away at the same time.

The Lefties ain't got the market captured in mental illness, not quite. But as you can see by the actions of Ivins, Bedel and Bishop, they are workin' on it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 05:32 PM

""Joseph Andrew Stack mocks the American health care system as a profit-driven joke; attacks George W. Bush 'and his cronies';""

Well, he got that much absolutely right, didn't he?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 05:55 PM

""in Order to form a more perfect Union (1), establish Justice (2), insure domestic Tranquility (3), provide for the common defense (4), promote the general Welfare (5), and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity (6)""   (The numbers are mine)

Well, for Democrats that's pie in the sky.

The repubs have destroyed (1), (2), (3), and (4), totally ignored (5), and made (6) available only to themselves.

Wow,....And I always thought all Americans believed in the Constitution (except G W Bush, "It's only a piece of paper")

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 06:04 PM

That's about right, Don...

Anything the right wants to do which is illegal they think is unconstitutional and anything that the liberals are doing they think should be illegal... Kinda mixed up logic with the right (ahhhh, the wrong)...

BTW, Sawz... Don't think I didn't notice yer restraint... There's hope for ya' yet, son... Not much, but hope...lol...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: GUEST,John
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 11:55 PM

Bobert--

I love this country and its tradition of free speech.

I love people in the streets to oppose Jim Crow (my own first). I loved kids in the streets against the Vietnam war. I loved people in the streets for peace.

But, Bobert, I love them all. Not just the ones that agree with me, or the ones where every signmaker can spell. I love them all.

I hope you took the opportunities you had to speak. In the streets if you felt that call.

These people say they feel threatened by their government. I have felt that way myself. Sometimes I went into the streets and spoke, sometimes I didn't. If they feel that way, then no wonder they are speaking. I love them for it.

Grace in the face of political opposition is one of the things that defines the good part of American politics. It pleases me when I see and hear Americans who show that virtue. I try to show it toward my opponents.

My opponents are not usually villains or idiots, they are heroes for their own values. To call them nasty names does me no credit at all. It is especially abhorrent to me to suggest that a crowd of thousands must all be villains and idiots, because I have been told that some of them are.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 12:17 AM

Killer liberal government haters doing illegal things:

Pentagon Gunman was busted in Reno for Pot

Reports say that Bedell was calm Thursday when he coolly drew a 9-millimeter handgun from his pocket and started firing during the point-blank attack that turned into a four person shooting spree.

A distrust of the federal government was apparent on Internet social networking blogs that officials believe were authored by Bedell

On Feb. 5, Bedell posted $2,080 cash bail in Reno on charges of driving under the influence of marijuana and possession of a controlled substance, records show. He was given a March 2 arraignment date in Reno Justice Court and failed to appear.

Bedell was arrested in Reno at South Virginia Street and Longley Lane about 9:30 p.m. Feb. 1 following a traffic stop. A deputy suspected he was intoxicated due to the vehicle drifting across travel lanes and stopping 50-feet before approaching a red light.

Inside Bedell's car was a drug pipe with marijuana residue and three plastic containers of marijuana, the report said.

"I could smell a strong odor of marijuana emitting from the vehicle," Deputy John Schuette wrote. "I explained to Bedell that I could smell marijuana and asked him to hand it to me. Bedell retrieved a pink colored metal pipe from his right pants pocket and gave it to me."

Schuette wrote Bedell told him the last time he used marijuana was "a couple weeks ago," and later revised his answer to "a couple hours ago."....

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 12:39 AM

Reefer Madness! That really exists! I thought it was just a publicity campaign!

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 02:06 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the last time he used marijuana was "a couple weeks ago," and later revised his answer to "a couple hours ago."....

So was it weeks or days? don't matter to a stoner. Facts are irrelevant.

They believe something is a certain way and facts do not mean anything to them.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 02:13 AM

Bullshit, Sawz. Threatening to kill a sitting President is grounds for immediate investigation by te FBI and Secret Service no matter who sits.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:57 AM

Actually, this ahs nuthin' to do with pot and everything to do with hate groups... Seems that every time we have a Dem president the number of hate groups increases... Happened in the 90s and it's happening again... Difference now is that hate is "in" and being marketed on FOX and dozens of talk radio shows... We didn't have that brand being sold in the 90s... Yes, we hd conservative talk shows but not with the hate that these folks are selling these days...

Washington Post had an interesting article on this yesterday and maybe I'll talk more about it later but right now...

...gotta go to work...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 12:49 AM

"Bullshit, Sawz. Threatening to kill a sitting President is grounds for immediate investigation by te FBI and Secret Service no matter who sits."

So what was the results of this investigation?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 11:52 PM

Is there such a thing as an anti-social socialist?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 03:30 PM

Is Moveon.org a Terrorist Organization??

An opponent of government healthcare programs had part of a finger bit off during a fight at a pro-healthcare-reform rally this week in Thousand Oaks. William Rice, 65, of Newbury Park was with a small group of counter-protesters at a vigil Wednesday night organized by Moveon.org when a man bit off part of his left pinky finger during a scuffle, authorities said. Doctors were unable to reattach Rice's finger. Sheriff's detectives Thursday were still looking for the man who bit Rice. Investigators also were sifting through conflicting accounts of the incident, but Rice acknowledged that he threw the first punch. "When he got in my personal space, I popped him in the nose," Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself." The incident was reported at 7:26 p.m. Wednesday at Lynn Road and Hillcrest Drive, where more than 100 people gathered for the pro-healthcare-reform vigil.

About 15 people opposed to President Obama's healthcare reform stood across the street from Moveon.org's group. Members of Code Pink: Women for Peace also were there, authorities said. Rice got involved in a heated discussion with a member of Code Pink, said sheriff's Capt. Ross Bonfiglio, a department spokesman. After the argument, Rice returned to where his group was standing. An unidentified man then walked from Moveon.org's area toward the opponents and verbally confronted Rice, allegedly calling him names and acting aggressively, Bonfiglio said. Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, Bonfiglio said. A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off, Bonfiglio said. Rice drove himself to Los Robles Hospital & Medical Center in Thousand Oaks. Another man found the bitten-off portion of the finger and took it to Rice at the hospital, Bonfiglio said.

Doctors told Rice the pinky, severed near the second knuckle, could not be reattached because of high bacteria levels from a human bite, he told the Ventura County Star. Rice said he did not initially plan to participate in any demonstration Wednesday. He was driving by when he spotted Code Pink members, and he stopped to see if they were protesting the military, he said. Rice has a son who is an officer in the Marine Corps. After a brief exchange with Code Pink members, Rice said, he was satisfied they were not protesting the military. He was leaving when a man who seemed "deranged" approached and called him an "idiot," he said. Rice said he felt like the man had singled him out because he was the "easiest target." But the incident happened quickly, he said, and he doesn't clearly remember everything that preceded the altercation.

Scott Bush, 43, of Thousand Oaks said he was standing with Rice in the group opposed to healthcare reform when the man walked over from the Moveon.org group. Bush said the man asked the group if it supported a public health insurer option, and members responded "no." The man then singled out Rice and asked him why, according to Bush. When Rice responded that he didn't want the government involved in anything, the man moved toward Rice and yelled, "You're an idiot," Bush said.

Bush said Rice then hit the man in a defensive move. The man then pulled Rice into the street, according to Bush. After a fight that lasted only a few seconds, Bush said, he heard Rice say, "He bit my finger off," and he saw a stump. Several witnesses said Rice's shirt was ripped during the scuffle. Bush said he later found the roughly 1-inch piece of finger about 20 feet away and took it to Los Robles Hospital. The suspect left before police arrived, authorities said. He was described as a short man with a medium build, wearing a blue cap, black shirt and black shorts. Detectives were still trying to determine much about the incident, including whether the man intended to bite off Rice's finger, sheriff's Detective Eric Buschow said. Rice said he thinks the man intended to harm him but not bite off his finger.

Authorities did not consider the man a criminal suspect Thursday and were not looking to arrest him, Buschow said. "We want him to come forward so we can talk to him. We want to hear his side," Buschow said. "He's part of the puzzle." The man did give an account of the incident to people at the Moveon.org gathering before he disappeared, said Joanie McClellan of Thousand Oaks, an organizer of the vigil. The man was visibly shaken, with his glasses askew and a lens missing, she said.

McClellan said no one at the gathering knew the man, who never gave his name and said he wasn't on the Moveon.org list. McClellan, also involved with Code Pink in Ventura County, said she did not see the altercation. The man told McClellan he was on his way to the healthcare vigil when Rice heckled and then hit him, she said. The man acknowledged he had bitten Rice's finger, she said. "We had asked him to go and sit on the grass so he could calm down, and I never saw him again," she said.

Although he did not plan to protest Wednesday, Rice said, he's opposed to government involvement in general, except for mail service and the military. "It doesn't have any business in anybody's healthcare," he said. Rice acknowledged he used the Medicare he gets as a senior when he went to the hospital Wednesday. He said it was the first time he used the program, to which he remains adamantly opposed. "If I had any other options, I would not have used it, even though I pay for it," he said.

Emily Kryer, spokeswoman for U.S. Rep. Lois Capps, said the incident will not affect plans for a healthcare forum Friday night in Oxnard. The congresswoman will co-host a community information session at 6 p.m. at Bethel AME Church. Kryder said Oxnard police officers will provide security. Anyone with information about the biting incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 800-222-TIPS.

Blood in the streets.