BS: the demise of the boring thread

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 03:13 PM

Oh well..can't teach an old dog new tricks.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 03:17 PM

Come Boy, come!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 04:24 PM

Since you know so much about it, GfS, is licking your own balls a life-style choice, or is it genetic?

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 04:49 PM

More to the point...WHY do you support an ideology which dictates that humans do NOT have the right to fuck who they want!!???...AND would deny counseling or therapy to those who want that FREEDOM?????????????

I don't.

You posted the conclusion of the study posted by Ed T, as proof that you agreed with it

I didn't.

then say that the link was from a Conservative religious outfit....and it WAS NOT at all.

Yes it is.

But there isn't really any point in this. There comes a time when, as other people have stated, one really needs to decide whether it is worth continuing a conversation with someone is barking mad. And the answer is no. I am sure you feel the same about me so shall we mutually agree that we are both two sandwiches short of a picnic and call it a day eh?

As you said

THESE IS a difference between liberals

Which makes about as much sense as anything else you write I suppose.

TTFN

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 06:26 PM

Mystery Guest # I-812: "Since you know so much about it, GfS, is licking your own balls a life-style choice, or is it genetic?"

Can't you read??..Ask Muskrat!
Gfs response:("Was it by choice?...or was he just 'born that way', and couldn't help himself??")


Dave the Gnome: ""More to the point...WHY do you support an ideology which dictates that humans do NOT have the right to fuck who they want!!???...AND would deny counseling or therapy to those who want that FREEDOM?????????????""

I don't."

I can't believe that anyone can be so thick!...Against the post that you, yourself posted, you insist that homosexuals have no choice...let me paraphrase....Your ideology says that homosexuals do NOT have the FREEDOM to choose....Your 'divine state' ordered edicts have decided that in the womb at birth...contrary to scientific studies, that CANNOT find the 'magic gene', on which your propaganda, has indoctrinated you that there is.

Dave the Mental Midget: "You posted the conclusion of the study posted by Ed T, as proof that you agreed with it

I didn't."

Read it and weep!

From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Apr 14 - 02:24 AM

"Keith, there are examples of bigotry here. Lets look at the conclusion of GfS's link, which he believed is a fair and balanced view.

"Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge.""

But you cut the paragraph in half and excluded the rest...here is the WHOLE post, of which you edited: (My Response at the time, oncluded!!!)

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Apr 14 - 11:18 PM

Dave, in your post you cut and pasted the 'Conclusion'...but seem to FAIL at reading the WHOLE thing you posted...so I'll put it up for you...READ IT!! You posted it!!!:

"....We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a "gay gene" as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified. Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge."


Got it?..Get it?...Good!""

Now are you going to pretend to go 'brain-dead'?

Dave the Mutant Gnome: "then say that the link was from a Conservative religious outfit....and it WAS NOT at all.

Yes it is."

Pray-tell where did you get that nonsensical ASS-umption????

"Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 14 - 05:14 PM


Before you read the article, note the sites name.

http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp

""...and that is all I've said about it for YEARS now..no gene!!""


...and then this 'gem'

Dave Poet Extraordinaire: "As you said

THESE IS a difference between liberals

Which makes about as much sense as anything else you write I suppose."


Next time you throw a picnic, try not to throw up all over your sandwiches!

(It's hard to eat, when you see Muskrat over by the tree licking his balls!)

Maybe you should stop trying to follow his example, and THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!!

GfS

P.S....Here''s some 'picnic music'.... just for you!!!

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 06:37 PM

Jaysus, just ignore the silly bastard, Dave! He's a useless, worthless git, he knows I know it and I know he bloody knows I know it! Life is so short...

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 12:13 AM

He's got his hands full...ignoring the truth and believing what he WANTS to........but we love him, anyway.........

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 02:53 AM

To true, Steve. It is insane posts like the one at 6:26PM that, to my mind, are the real problem. More suited to a 1960s psychedelia forum I think. Maybe with a bit of acid rock in the background.

Tell you what, Goofus, you carry on sitting in the corner, gibbering to yourself and the rest of us will choose to ignore you. Luckily, as no-one has the vaguest idea what you are on about, you will not be doing any real harm. It is very rare that I resort to a personal attack as it is right that one should argue against the ideas rather than people. But you do not have ideas. If you have, they are lost in the incoherent ramblings that you try to pass off as sanity.

Thank the stars that I am not that sane.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 03:36 AM

Where is The Isle of White Goofus?

The tour dates on the back of the T shirt don't seem to mention it.

Anyway, stop barking at me. It is the good professor who claims to understand you, not me. And as he is a greyhound rather than a trick cyclist, I doubt I'd put his diagnosis on your medical records without a second opinion.

Perhaps the view of a Dalmatian?



Remember that poem I once wrote for you? You should be grateful because I only used to write them as knicker looseners. Rare that I write them for someone who is fucked rather than about to be.

Unlike other Musket based doggerel, I can remember it.

Roses are red
I am just larking
Around on my keyboard
And Goofus is barking

Keep banging the rocks together.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 04:04 AM

Such CONVINCING positions, you have provided such undeniable evidence of your knowledge of the matter!!!.......It speaks to the integrity of your cause and character!!
(But then, what can one expect?..they are inseparable!).

Who do you work for?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 07:38 AM

Come on in Dave, the water's lovely.

Personal attacks never win arguments I agree but when fools don't put what could be called an argument in the first place....

Well, it's cathartic when you think about it. For example...


Who do I work for Goofus? I WORK FOR THE FUNNY FARM, and they have issued me with a white van to come and round up the likes of you up.

Menu. Do you want mashed banana or mashed bananas?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 08:00 AM

No - I have actually solved the riddle Musket. Or is it Watson? Anyroads, goofus is either a mod or Max himself with a cunning plan to stop the controversial threads by posting so much gibberish that no-one can be bothered visiting them any more. I think we can get round it by out-gibbering him but I am afraid that I am not up to the job. I'll make a start anyway.

This is a lovely party. I wish I was here.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 09:53 AM

I keep laughing at Goofus and taking the piss but now and again, he doesn't warrant fun. His assertions that you can be cured of being different to those wishing to cure you. Now that's the product of one sick mind. I notice he and someone else I have referred to as a sick puppy seem to play together quite nicely. Ok, the toys get put away in segregated boxes but Barbie's clothes never quite fit Ken.

Goofus is also rather quick to point out how much he enjoys a "normal" heterosexual life. Good for him.

zzz

Any road up, it's pissing it down. Must mean I am about to go to Scotland on holiday.

Toodle pip

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 12:05 PM

Don't go away mad....just go away!
If you think you've actually been 'controversial', you're flattering yourself beyond 'your curtain call' that never happened.
If you are pretending to be a 'so-called liberal', you've don't a great job revealing just how stupid and shallow they are. If you are a 'conservative', you've done more damage to being a 'liberal', showing the 'depth' of their 'position'.
If you were trying to be funny, you've only shown what happens to witless clowns with nothing to say...except how flagrantly pathetic idiots can be.
None of you have put forth ONE salient 'argument'...other than trying to stir up hate and discontent...which, from any readers point of view, has just been boringly obnoxious!
Try doing something that you can't, don't or won't do...and that is to back up your position with something 'less than stupid'.
You have displayed nothing but baseless contempt for the people on Mudcat who do have a verifiable point of view.
THAT is NOT 'controversy'..it's being a fucking pest....and you finally got called on it....!

GfS

P.S....and got your asses kicked!!..what are you? Suicidal and proud of it??????

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 01:03 PM

Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, and you're a dirty rascal.....

ZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 01:43 PM

Dave, I thought you said you were NOT a member of the pack?

You're beginning to sound identical to the other three.

The wit and humour in your last post is well up to the high standards required for membership.

Even down to miscalling GfS in a childish manner.

Get a grip and grow up, it seems that you are not only disingenuous, but infantile as well.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 01:56 PM

Obble, gobble, pobble?

Yes! The trout is lovely.

Name the Dove.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 02:33 PM

Back in yer hole.

Who flushed your chain ? Talking about you, not to you.

Anyway, not that I give a shit but I give even less of one right now. Tomorrow I shall be eating the best soufflés in Inveraray.

(A bit deep for the decency challenged. )

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 06:18 PM

Sounds more like you're talking to yourself, and sharing your thoughts.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 Apr 14 - 06:19 PM

Musket defended personal attack on other members earlier.
How about you Dave?
Do you agree it is "cathartic?"
Do the moderators have an opinion?
It used not to be allowed.
Do the pack make the rules now?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 01:38 AM

What of you get out of it then Keith? Are attacks cathartic for you too?

TC

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 02:52 AM

Still at it???
The more you feed it the more it grows.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 04:28 AM

I do not make personal attacks Musket.
Decent folk here don't.

It is sad to see the likes of you advocating personal attacks on members and encouraging people on the fringe of your pack to join in.
"Come on in Dave, the water's lovely."
Its "cathartic."

Just two days ago you followed an op without commenting on the subject, just personal attack.
You and the pack turned the thread into just another boring rant against religion.
"Fuck 'em. All of 'em."
As if we had not heard it all a hundred times before.

This discussion was about why the forum is now boring and why so many decent, interesting folk have gone.
It is you and your ilk.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 05:18 AM

"Do the pack make the rules now?"
No Keith - you are on your own, as usual
The rest of "the pack" seem to have deserted you.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 05:27 AM

Me: 25 Apr 14 - 02:53 AM (To GfS)
It is very rare that I resort to a personal attack as it is right that one should argue against the ideas rather than people. But you do not have ideas. If you have, they are lost in the incoherent ramblings that you try to pass off as sanity.

Keith: 25 Apr 14 - 06:19 PM

Musket defended personal attack on other members earlier.
How about you Dave?
Do you agree it is "cathartic?"

I think I had pre-answered you, Keith, but as I said before I do not read all the nonsense in these threads so I forgive you for not doing so either.

I have also subsequently changed my opinion. I will no longer attack the GfS persona but try to match the level of nonsense instead. It may be difficult but I will do my best.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 06:47 AM

and the second commandment is like unto it
Thou shalt love thy fellow man.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 10:37 AM

That'll open the door to another homosexuality argument I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 11:35 AM

Naw, he said 'love', not 'fuck'...there IS a difference...and that goes for heteros as well.


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 12:08 PM

"We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a "gay gene" as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified.".... (Goofus)

YEAH?............AND?

Like to explain how that comment has any relevance to the argument?

NO?

Well, my incoherent friend, you forget just one important point. The fact that such a gene hasn't been discovered YET, doesn't mean it won't be discovered tomorrow or next year.

In 1900 you wouldn't have found many who believed men would ever fly, and predicting spaceflight would have earned you a season ticket to the "Funny Farm".

So your certainty is at best misguided, and any conclusions derived from it are frankly nonsense. Do you have any idea how large the human genome is, and how complex?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 12:10 PM

In case anyone wondered, Muskets first post on the thread that Keith is referring to, where Brian May linked a speech Tony Blair had made about radicalisation was -

I thought you were into home made guitars, star gazing and saving badgers?

Not all badgers, just the radicalised bastard ones eh?

Again, in case anyone is not in the know, these are things that Brian May, ex Queen lead guitarist, is into.

Our Brian May on Mudcat replied

Ho ho ho, you are a wag . . .

Which is, I guess, because Brian on here gets Queen jokes all the time. Now, I could be wrong, but I would guess that Brian did not see that as personal abuse. Nor do I. Others may see it differently. Make up your own mind.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 12:20 PM

Thanks for the background Dave.
If the personal comments were not malicious, they still came across as ridicule and were made instead of any consideration of the issue Brian wanted discussed.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 12:29 PM

The quote you attributed to me was actually a quote posted by 'Guest', from his link, on the study that he posted.
You should read it...especially before you use it to slur someone else!

AND..for all you supporters of things that you DON'T know much about...instead of trying to stir up bias, why don't you find the study, that concludes otherwise.....keeping in mind that the words, 'may suggest' or 'seems to indicate' and other non-conclusive innuendos, is NOT a definite.

Jeez, you'd think that BEFORE you go hog wild on a notion, you should at least find out if there is ANY merit to your 'persuasions'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 12:43 PM

Mmmm - OK Keith. I understand what you are saying but I think you over reacted. If anyone other than Musket had made a similar joke I think you would have ignored it. If Musket or Jim Carroll make any points at all you seem to need to argue against it. Apologies if I am wrong but remember that it does take two people to argue.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 01:47 PM

Here, in the spirit of fairness.....

Here's the CLOSEST search, with the CLOSEST conclusive results!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 09:05 PM

Here you go!

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 11:02 PM

Well they found THAT one!

Look folks, It's not as if I killed and ate the Easter Bunny.....nor did I round up Leprechauns to rip off their gold and had them exterminated.....nor did I order a drone attack on Santa's sleigh, and had him killed...after water-boarding him....nor did I fatally stab the tooth fairy...........nor did I exterminate the 'gay gene'.
What they all have in common, is they don't exist..except to make people 'feel good'.
Now, when the first time you heard that 'there was no Santa Claus'...did you hate the person who told you? Did you call him/her a bunch of hateful names? Did you think that person was 'bigoted' against fat guys in red suits?
....And finally, when you got over the 'disappointment' of learning that the 'tooth fairy' was really Mom or Dad were you resolved to resent the person who clued you in???
I'm not suggesting that anyone treat a homosexual one way or another..come to think of it, I can't recall a time in my life when I asked a person, for the sake of inclusion or exclusion, if they were homosexual or not....nor have I ever considered asking a musician what his sexual preferences were, before we could jam together.
Normally, I don't give a flying fuck. Matter of fact, it has only been since the Mudcat forum's incessant bickering that I even think about it much!
So here's the rub.....all these people are all pissed off because some ideological motivated consensus got them believing that homosexuality was 'genetic', and therefore they had claim to the same championing of Civil Rights as did the blacks emerging from segregation, especially in the south....SO THEY LIED TO YOU....Yes, they LIED!!!...They flat out made it up, and even funded certain 'studies' to 'SUGGEST' that it 'COULD BE' a gene.....and then the 'experts' came out from the woodwork, blathering nonsense to get, what I believe to be, well intentioned people to be their trumpeters and foot soldiers....(sorta like Santa's elves).....and the IRONY of it all, is that you get pissed off at the ones telling you the truth.....AND ARE NOT AT ALL SUSPICIOUS OF THE PEOPLE OR THE MOTIVES OF THOSE WHO ARE LYING TO YOU!!!!
Now anbody reading this has a computer, and anyone can go look for the 'gene'.....and the only one there is a gene, with only 3-5 markers, 'Xq28'....but EVERY study regarding this gene, says that it is NOT the gene....only has some markers....but there is no gene', Santa Claus, tooth fairy, Leprechauns, or Easter Bunny.
I guess I could apologize for telling you the truth, and it got you 'upset'.......but instead, we have to sit through your 'terrible temper tantrums'......did you act this way, when you found out that the 'Monkees' weren't even playing their instruments...but some weren't even musicians!!!?????????

...and you're not at all indignant of the phonies who keep spouting this shit, to build public policies, re-define centuries of the marital institution on outright lies????...Talk about a 'corruptible foundation'...how long do you think THAT would last???
Makes one wonder, what else did they tell you to fuck with your head.......and why???!!!???!!!

just tell the truth...and let the chips fall where they may..and for God's sakes, don't give us lies to lay a foundation for laws and public policies............!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 11:28 PM

The TRUTH is that the matter is far from settled yet.

GfS, you seem to have quite a strong emotional investment in your insistence, without authoritative evidence, that same sex orientation is NOT genetic.

One does tend to wonder why......

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 14 - 11:45 PM

WHAT???!!
The FACT is, and the studies show it, that there is NO gene....and it pisses me off that people have been deceived about it, and have gotten so hostile about anyone's resistance to believing their lies...and it's being used to divide people!

Doesn't that piss you off?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 12:18 AM

No. It just demonstrates how desperate YOU are. Having found no gene doesn't mean that there IS no gene. It just means they haven't found it yet. They're still looking.

Spooks in the closet, GfS?

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 01:11 AM

You keep insisting...when the studies have said that there is NO gene...and homosexuals can stop being homosexuals.
Get over it.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 01:26 AM

...IF they want.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 01:29 AM

The studies YOU cling to desperately (usually from religious organizations or quack shrinks) say there is no gene. But they're not the only ones. Rational psychiatrists are still open-minded, and as such, still looking.

Nighty night, GfS. Lock your closet door. There might be scary things in there.

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 01:57 AM

False...you just tried a FALSE accusation!..It won't hold. The studies are not biased, at all...AND you could have read one of them. You should be happy....homosexuals, those who want options, can change their minds..and the best part is..we already know it!!!
the bummer is, there are people like you who want to keep them from getting free!
Why do you suppose that is??
Don't you want them to know they have a choice??
What's wrong with having a choice??..if for years you had it drummed into your head that you couldn't??...or shouldn't??
think they MIGHT just want to have their own children, someday, but just lacked the confidence??
Ask your two buddies!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 02:04 AM

You're raving, GfS.

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 02:09 AM

Actually, I'm quite calm.
I've done my homework.....you just keep broadcasting bullshit that someone wrote for you!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 02:17 AM

Speaking of bullshitting, remember this??? ..They're singing your song!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 04:07 AM

When did you chose to be straight?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 07:44 AM

"Over 90 percent of ugly clothing is bought by heterosexual men."
Anon quote

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 12:01 PM

I suspect some of you are confusing "genetic" with "congenital". I also think you may actually be assuming GfS is a real person, and who believes anything he says. I don't think any of it has ever been true.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 12:14 PM

Ever wondered why people discovering that they had a choice, just pisses off the 'so-called' liberals'????

Ever wondered why people discovering that they weren't limited, and to being stereotyped pisses off the 'so-called' liberals'????

Ever wondered how people discovering that there is a political group of people out there who are actually opposed to informing you that you have a choice, even about anything, will view that political group???

Ever wondered how people re-act discovering that the people who say they supported you, are actually bigoted against you by not allowing you to think for yourself...and tell you what you can and cannot be??

Ever wondered how a political group, can decide that you were born a certain way and base that on politics and disregard science?

Just wondering...................if that's Okay with you....

GfS