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Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)

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Subject: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 11:13 AM

There are various innocuous explanations of the meaning of this song all over the internet, but they just don't ring true to me. It seems to me totally obvious that the song covers much of the same territory as the Velvet Underground "Waiting for the man". Comparably bowdlerised explanations of Lou Reed's Sweet Jane (a weed song if I ever heard one) multiply. Conversely I happen to believe that 8 miles High was actually about an aeroplane flight! Views?


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 06:04 PM

"Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)" is a folk-rock song written by Bob Dylan and first recorded during The Basement Tapes sessions in 1967. The song was recorded in December 1967 and first released in January 1968 as "Mighty Quinn" by the British band Manfred Mann[4] and became a great success. It has been recorded by a number of performers, often under the "Mighty Quinn" title.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 06:10 PM

Yes GeorgianSilver, I know that. Seeking insight not parroting.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Reinhard
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 07:39 PM

Other readers, like me, might not be familiar with the song, so thank you GeorgianSilver for giving us details.

I also don't understand your comparison of the song with the Velver Underground one's as I don't know what *that* is about. Explanation please.


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Subject: ADD: I'm Waiting for the Man
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 10:55 PM

Well, Richard - if you ask about a song on Mudcat, it's likely that other people will be interested in other aspects of the song - so we consider all songs fully, not necessarily according to the specifications of the thread originator.


I'M WAITING FOR THE MAN
(Lou Reed)

[Verse 1]
I'm waiting for my man
Twenty-six dollars in my hand
Up to Lexington, 1-2-5
Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive
I'm waiting for my man

[Verse 2]
Hey, white boy, what you doin' uptown?
Hey, white boy, you chasin' our women around?
Oh pardon me sir, it's furthest from my mind
I'm just lookin' for a dear, dear friend of mine
I'm waiting for my man

[Verse 3]
Here he comes, he's all dressed in black
PR shoes and a big straw hat
He's never early, he's always late
First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait
I'm waiting for my man
Oh, work it now

[Instrumental Break]

[Verse 4]
Up to a brownstone, up three flights of stairs
Everybody bodies pinned you, but nobody cares
He's got the works, gives you sweet taste
Ah, then you gotta split because you got no time to waste
I'm waiting for my man

[Verse 5]
Baby don't you holler, darlin' don't you bawl and shout
I'm feeling good, you know I'm gonna work it on out
I'm feeling good, I'm feeling, oh, so fine
Until tomorrow, but that's just some other time
I'm waiting for my man
Walk it home

[Outro]
Oh, it's alright
Huh huh

Source: https://genius.com/The-velvet-underground-im-waiting-for-the-man-lyrics

Take a look at the notes at this link. Here's part:

“I’m Waiting for the Man” visually describes the experience of buying heroin from a dealer, specifically $26 worth near the intersection of Lexington Avenue and 125th Street in New York City.

“I’m Waiting For The Man” marks the beginning of a common motif that runs throughout The Velvet Underground & Nico, as the subject of heroin appears in several tracks afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99og_g7rXnA

? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Waiting_for_the_Man


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Subject: ADD: Quinn the Eskimo (Mighty Quinn)(Dylan)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 22 - 11:07 PM

I don't see Quinn posted here, so here are the lyrics.

QUINN THE ESKIMO (The Mighty Quinn)
(Bob Dylan)

Ev’rybody’s building the big ships and the boats
Some are building monuments
Others, jotting down notes
Ev’rybody’s in despair
Ev’ry girl and boy
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
Ev’rybody’s gonna jump for joy

Come all without, come all within
You’ll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn

I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But guarding fumes and making haste
It ain’t my cup of meat
Ev’rybody’s ’neath the trees
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
All the pigeons gonna run to him

Come all without, come all within
You’ll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn

A cat’s meow and a cow’s moo, I can recite ’em all
Just tell me where it hurts yuh, honey
And I’ll tell you who to call
Nobody can get no sleep
There’s someone on ev’ryone’s toes
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
Ev’rybody’s gonna wanna doze

Come all without, come all within
You’ll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn


Copyright © 1968 by Dwarf Music; renewed 1996 by Dwarf Music

I've always thought of "Quinn" as an upbeat, optimistic song. Don't see any reason to think of Quinn as a drug dealer, but it's clear that Velvet Underground is referring to a drug dealer in "Waiting for the Man."

Here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_the_Eskimo_(Mighty_Quinn)


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 21 Dec 22 - 02:04 PM

Well, I bought the Manfred Mann version when it came out, and I must confess that I didn't ruminate on the lyrics at all - probably the only bit we all knew was the chorus, and joined in with, lustily, but we just loved the overall sound of it!
Had the same experience with other bands, e.g. ABBA - loved their sound, but hadn't a clue about the lyrics of most of their songs until I went to an ABBA singalong night, when all the lyrics came bouncing across the screen for people to join in!


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Mysha
Date: 21 Dec 22 - 05:54 PM

So, what did I miss? How does a mighty Eskimo connect to a drugs dealer?

Mysha


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Dec 22 - 06:50 PM

I like my sugar sweet
But guarding fumes and making haste


who knows what Dylan wrote, he don't waste time explainin'.

But there was a tune that some Jazz musicians wrote, in rehab, if my memory serves. Names escape me, but this would have been the 70s probably, or before.

"Last call for coffee" and it weren't no Java, fer sure.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Dec 22 - 03:34 AM

Could it be, like some other songs of the era, meaningless. Dylan is a clever wordsmith but doesn't always make sense!


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 Dec 22 - 05:09 AM

"Snow". "Dose". "Jump for Joy".


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Dec 22 - 11:35 AM

Looking at the lyrics that Joe posted above, I see "jump for joy" and "doze", but not "dose". I don't see "snow" anywhere. Is it implied by Quinn being an Eskimo?

According to Wikipedia, Bob Dylan is widely believed to have written the song "Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)" in tribute to Anthony Quinn's performance as Inuk in the 1960 movie, "The Savage Innocents".

DC


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Dec 22 - 01:29 PM

Could it be, like some other songs of the era, meaningless. Dylan is a clever wordsmith but doesn't always make sense! quote
you have hit the nail on the head, or as dylan said quote
    The jack and queen
    Have forsaked the courtyard
    52 gypsies
    Now file past the guards
    In the space where the deuce
    And the ace once ran wild
    Farewell, Angelina
    The sky is falling
    I'll see you in a while
    See the cross-eyed pirates sitting
    Perched in the sun
    Shooting tin cans
    With a sawed-off shotgun
    And the neighbors, they clap
    And they cheer with each blast
    But farewell, Angelina
    The sky's changing color
    And I must leave fast
    King Kong, little elves
    On the rooftop they dance
    Valentino-type tangos
    While the make-up man's hands


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: GUEST,Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Dec 22 - 02:46 AM

' shuts the eyes of the dead
not to embarass anyone
farewell Angelina
the sky is embarassed
and I must be gone.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Origins: Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)
From: Lighter
Date: 09 Jan 23 - 04:12 PM

As I recall, a street name for Quaalude in NYC ca1971 was "Mighty Quinn" - presumably because it was strong stuff and started with "Qu."


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