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Chieftains on cable

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Subject: Chieftains on cable
From: GUEST,roger-cookieless-netscape
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 03:57 AM

Just received newsletter from Dale at Chiff and Fipple and thought this snippet might be of interest.

.....The cable channel Arts and Entertainment (A&E) is offering a Chieftains special tomorrow (Sunday) evening. Check your local listings......


roger


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 08:45 AM

Thanks, I saw previews for this. It looks good, although they've other artists with them, including Van Morrison, so I am glad I have a mute button!**BG**


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 10:26 AM

I, on the other hand, will turning UP the volume when Van comes on!


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 10:54 AM

Listening to Van right now on VH1 and he is sounding good
I hope you will be keeping the volume high for the Chieftains too Mbo
Wish we had some good music on in the UK tonight
Enjoy
Roger


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 11:37 AM

Kat, have you ever heard Van's recording with them called "Irish Heartbeat"? Mostly pretty good, according to me. Especially Raglan Road.

F


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 12:31 PM

Roger, of course! I was the Chieftains' soundtrack to the movie Barry Lyndon that introduced me to Irish music, way back in 1995.


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 01:03 PM

I ain't never been a movie soundtrack!
But I did see them play live in a small theatre about twenty years ago
Though it was great I really did not appreciate the music as much back then and soon went back to listening to the Police, U2 and such.

Matt Molloy is flute king !!
roger


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 03:17 PM

I don't think I have Frankee, but in fairness, I will give it a listen tonight. I have an extreme prejudice against Van and his voice and there is no reason for it except that I just can't stand the way he kinda mumbles and whines. Sorry, phoaks, hearing him usually makes me climb the walls. Plus I like my Chieftains the way I discovered them, on tape, in 1983, by themselves. Purist or what?**BG** Seeing them live somewhere around 1985/6 kept me feeling that way, too!

kat


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: GUEST,Rich(stupidbodhranplayerwhodoesn'tknowbetter
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 03:57 PM

I saw an ad for this and it looks like Mairead NiMhaonaigh and Johnny McDonagh are both guests! Just the possibility of a flute/bodhran duet between Matt Molloy and Johnny McDonagh makes this a must see. It promises to be great fun.

Rich


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 04:07 PM

stop rubbing it in jusy coz i can't see it
No way Matt M is gonna be wasting his talent on a goatskin covered riddle !!









Just kidding I Love Boddys' really


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Pene Azul
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 04:42 PM

According to the listings on their site, it will air 10-11PM Eastern and Pacific US time.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 05:37 PM

And, it would be 8-9p for Mountain states and 9-10p for those in the central regions.

*Sheesh* NYC and LA would just elminate the middle!**BG**


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:08 AM

A great program ~ thanks Roger ~

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:27 AM

OK, let out breath now.

The best for me was watching that man sing the whole room, in the first part of the thing--- the empty room part of his instrument, breathing with him, and him playing the WHOLE space.....

Even all the commercialism did not dispel that.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:53 AM

Great show, thanks for the reminder.


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 08:21 AM

Watched the first half hour and taped the whole thing. What I saw was really nice, especially Kevin Conneff singing, as Susan said. I think this tape will be a keeper.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: DougR
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:54 AM

I thought it was an excellent show. I have seen the group lie two or three times and it was great to see them individually too, in informal settings.

They appeared a local venue a few years ago and a bunch of us at our local Pub chartered a bus and went out to the performance. They invited us backstage after the performance to share tons of guinness they had on ice back there. Lots of fun.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:20 PM

jeffp,

yes..........

Breath and power, responsiveness, personified. I'll never forget it. Mmario knows this secret, I just saw him do it in my church Saturday night. Especially when he warmed p in the empty church and discovered the acoustics in some apparent detail. I can't wait to go there now and play with this. I knew it as a logical desired outcome.. and I knew I could blend with other voices, from choir and tape-singing... but to blend with oneself and the room.... now I have seen and felt it done. I suspect I am not the same singer I was last week. I needed to know about this. When I lead song in worship.... something has been missing. I think I know where to reach for it now. To do in church what happens effortlessly at home, alone, or in my car.... I didn't know what I was doing, so I could not awarely, purposefully replicate it to the other setting. To breathe those songs in that place, using the room as a gift God gives so we can give back to Him.... oh my. Transports.

~Suddenly Susan


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:22 PM

My parents taped it for me, so I'll get to see it next week! As for THIS week, I got an Oasis concert to watch! Woo!


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:45 PM

One of the things that really impressed me about Kevin Conneff's performance was the way that he hit every note of the ornaments. He didn't just slide around (except when he intended to), he went from note to note, nailing each one confidently, and to my ear, perfectly. I will be studying this to improve my own singing.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Bert
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 12:51 PM

It was on from 2:00 to 4:00 in the morning in our area. Fortunately Tree woke me up so that I could see it. Great Show. I loved how they included local musicains everywhere they went.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:36 PM

jeffp,

Yes, and full expression of the consonants, not moving into the next syllable until he had heard the consonant return to him bounced off the walls. Wish I had the clip of just that song.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:48 PM

Susan - I have the show on tape. PM me with your address and I'll copy it when I have a chance and send it to you.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:58 PM

Good show. I personally enjoyed the "locals" most of all.

And Susan, I must tell you I have never warmed p in church, or anywhere else for that matter......at least not intentionally that I ever recall. Yet you say that it seems a good idea. Now I know that we have had some nasty religious talks around here lately, but I must ask, what kind of church do you Hardiman have there anyway. Please don't tell me Baptist, I'm having a tough time with this concept as it is.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 05:46 PM

Spaw,

We are fortunate to be at what I call a Church of the Real Deal. What I mean is, there is as little brainwashing going on as possible-- none we are aware of, only that which we ourselves cannot see in ourselves, see what I mean? Focus on actual spiritual experience and upon strengthening that. And so much caring. Our praishioners have taught us many lessons, us big-city fools. No pretense to speak of. It is an Episcopal church in a small, old- fashioned town with gaslights, town green, the whole thing.... brickwork Main Street shops all doing well... and close-knit families.

Hardiman's genius in bringing this church into the present century has been to remind people that since this is the only Episcopal church in the whole county (which is large, but is sparsely populated) that has fulltime clergy, and since so many people move here in retirement from other areas, and soince so many come to us in search of church from other denominatioal backgrounds where they were badly hurt, St. Paul's has to offer ALL that our denomination can offer.

So instead of having to choose between incense and robes, versus whitewashed walls and spare preaching, he offers BOTH. Not in a mishmash, either, or in any way watered down. But if you like fancy church with big choir music and you like to dress up on Sunday in your best, come to the 10 AM service. If you like hushed, contemplative prayer, 8 AM. Healing mass with laying on of hands? Wednesdays, noon. Old time gospel music and grinning? Come-as-you-are Saturday night (me for music). Greek or Russian Orthodox tradition? None of these churches for miles around. But our liturgy is much the same, more so than Roman Catholic. So come on in and you will find an ikon in Greg's office, old liturgies offered that fit your childhood loves, and certain things in the chapel that you will recognize. And his Bible studies draw upon all these strands of tradition so that people relate to one another and their whole heritage.

We also don't tackle, clip, or block newcomers. The worst thing you are likely to encounter as a newcomer is a pewful of stuffed animals or, worse, the Rector's Wife (me!) sitting nearby handing you the Prayer Book conveniently opened to the page we are on so you don't get lost.

The acoustics are such that even our small choir sounds big. When the Wellsbnoro Men's Chorus comes in to sing once or twice a year for the serve, with about 35 guys, it sounds like a train coming through. And there are sweet spots all over the place, from which even a small, unamplified voice rings in the whole space. The church is large but not cut up into sections-- old stone, covered with plaster, and open crosswise as opposed to those ucky pillars that a lot of old big stone churches have along the side aisles.

When people come in for the first time, and this includes everyone from babies to grandfathers, the first reaction is almost always the same. They come in, stop dead in their tracks, and LOOK, up and around, at the spaciousness and dignity that seem quite warm and welcoming. They sigh peacefully and sit down in a back pew. And they usually come back, if they can.

Then there is Jesus... but that would be another story.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: DougR
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:41 PM

Well, Praise, you may get a bit of heat from your posting but I hope not. Sounded to me you were merely addressing Spaw's questions. Actually, sounds good to me. Whole bunch of Thread Creep, but wanted to comment on your post anyway. DougR


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:59 PM

Yeah Doug, sounds like a pretty complete answer although I missed the details on the HVAC system, number of doors to the basement, and if they're making any money for the building fund by breeding frogs in the baptismal font. I'd ask something else, but I'm afraid I might get an answer.(:<))

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 10:47 PM

Hey Praise, I didn't see the program but your first post left me kind of scratching my head when you of Coneff singing the whole room--- the empty room part of his instrument, etc. Could you fill me in on what you were talking about when you get the chance. Thanks.

Frankie


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Walter Corey
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:08 PM

According to the weekly program schedule (see link above from Pene Azul), this show will be repeated on Sunday, Sept 3d from 8:30-11:00 AM - "Breakfast with the Arts"


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:17 PM

I am likely to be blackballed for this but I could not sit through it. The whistles drilled holes in my head. I did love the local fiddler with red hair who danced and played. And the voice alone in the church was nothing short of amazing. But all that noise...


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:31 PM

If I am not mistaken, the redheaded fiddler who danced around was not a local; 'twas Ashley MacIsaac, I think.


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: kettlebelly
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:55 PM

saw the a and e program and played along. i must admit that i have less restraint than kevin kneff. part of the lessons i have had to learn over the years is, "when not to play!" granted. some desparageing types say,"DON'T PLAY!" i, of course, ignore them with what dignity i have as my fingers dance along the skin, waiting for the blessed opening. a fine show to my mind.(yes, i did order the c.d.s).--kettlebelly


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: Den
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 12:14 AM

You're right Kat it was Ashley MacIsaac Cape Bretoner and not local Irish. I thought the show was brilliant and have taped it to play to anyone who comes through my door. There was even a short clip of the Mourne Mountains near where I was born which has made me terribly home sick the last couple of days. That and my Dad being very ill. Its a terrible time to be so far from home. Den


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Subject: RE: Chieftains on cable
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 04:54 PM

Frankee,

It is hard to describe what I intuited while watching, but it was like the whole room was part of the singer and the voice was only part of the instrument... like the vocal chords were guitar strings and the room was the soundbox... oh damn words! It was that he used the acoustics to shape the tones.... Not throwing his voice, as much as taking into account the nuances of sound allowed by the particular space he was in and thus the whole room was the instrument, run by a brain and lungs and vocal chords and soul.... see the program when it airs and I think you will see it too.

Spaw, in a week or two the Rector will be unicycling in the parish hall (large meeting space where we have coffee after the service).... it's his plan for winter exercise. He plans to learn how by tooling up and down the church aisles holding onto the tall pew ends till he can really zip around. It ought to be a hoot in his formal service clothes. Picture old fashioned brocade and such... Last year it was rollerblading in there--in the parish hall I mean!!!!-- 3 on 1 hockey, but the players have all gone to college now or into the service, leaving him, alas, all alone, till the next youth group gang is old enough. There has also been occasional target practice with the squirrel rifle in there-- bats, you know. Sorry, no font frogs, although a running craps game in the basement (numerous doors BTW) has been contemplated. We ourselves see little of the dough. It mostly goes for tuckpointing the place where it all happens, and Christmas baskets for various recipients, etc. So your additional fundraising ideas would be most welcome. I gotta lotta songbooks and CDs and folk lore books to finance.

~Churchmouse Clergyspouse


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