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Subject: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 01:26 AM

I'm wondering what became of the long defunct Washington label LPs. I'm looking for a Ewan MacColl/A.L. Lloyd album, "Whaling Ballads" and am wondering if it has been reissued on CD. A forum search for "Washington label" reveals that Washington had reissued Riverside's catalogue. Our local public library had a Washington label copy of it, which I used to check out whenever it was in, back in the late 70s. I didn't tape it, and it either got discontinued from the library collection, or somebody permanently checked it out. It holds a special place with me, because it was my introduction to sea music, and it remains my favorite sea music album. I have several other recordings of sea music they made together, plus A.L. Lloyd's "Leviathan," all wonderful recordings, but I cannot find this one. If anyone can tell me if "Whaling Ballads" is availabe on CD or cassette, I'd be very grateful.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 01:39 AM

A sort of companion piece you might be interested in is Folkways FS3850. MacColl, LLoyd, and Peggy Seeger singing 9 songs on 'Whaler out of New Bedford'. The Fitting Out/Boney/The Bark Gay Head/The Boston Come-all-ye/The Coast of Peru/Mary Ann/Desolation/A Hundred Years on the Eastern Shore/Homeward Bound .


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 02:12 AM

I'm familiar with that one - the soundtrack for the panorama of a whaling voyage. That's a gem! I'm looking for info on this one particular album, though. But thanks again.. There are many great albums by them, in and out of circulation.


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: SeanM
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 03:56 AM

I've got a MacColl/Lloyd CD by the name "Blow Boys Blow" released on the Tradition label. Looking at woodenshipsmusic.com, I find "English Drinking Songs" and "Leviathan" from Lloyd... also, "Round Cape Horn" with MacColl, Lloyd, Tawney & Killen. No "Whaling Ballads" though...

Dunno... does anyone else have a link or clue?

M


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chris/Darwin
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 06:52 AM

"Leviathan!" is subtitled "Ballads & Songs of the Whaling Trade". My vinyl copy was issued by Topic (12T174).

Regards
ChrisP


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 07:39 AM

Is this the Riverside RLP 12-635 "Thar She Blows!- Whaling Ballads and Songs": LLoyd/McColl/Peggy Seeger on banjo & J. Cole, Harmonica?? with 'Sperm Whale Fishery', 'Blood Red Roses', 'Farewell to Tarwathie'.... etc? If no luck elsewhere, send me a PM & we can work something out if a tape from my far-from-perfect vinyl would suffice..

Best, Greg


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 10:40 AM

It shows up on ebay periodically. Too rich for my blood - I believe the last one sold for about $30.


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 10:53 AM

The Washington label appeared on several Riverside re-releases. I haven't found the one you're looking for, but leviathan, Blow Boys Blow, Paul Clayton's Whaling Songs, Round Cape Horn, and a mess of other whaling and sea music material are all available at Camsco Music. Inquire at 800/548-FOLK or E-mail at dick@camsco.com


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Abby Sale
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 01:50 PM

I have that one. :-)

Most all of MacColl's sailing records
("1" means sung by MacColl, "2" is by Lloyd)

Sometimes MacColl had the same cut reissued, especially for the other country. Often he cut several different versions of the same song.

Whaler Out of New Bedford, Folkways FS 3850, 1962
(score from the film and other songs)
STILL AVAILABLE


Stinson Records (USA)
SLP 80 Haul on the Bowline, 1962 (with A.L. Lloyd)
SLP 81 Off to Sea Once More vii (with A.L. Lloyd) (10") 1960?
(Reissue of items on: Thar she blows, RLP 12-635 & Blow, boys, blow, TLP-1026)
Tracks: 1) Blood Red Roses 2) Van Dieman's Land 3) The Greenland Whale Fishery 4) Paddy Doyle 5) Johnny Todd 6) Lord Franklin 7) Rueben Ranzo 8) Sally Rachet 9) The Cruel Ship's Captain 10) Handsome Cabin Boy 11)The Dreadnaught 12) Off to Sea Once More 13) Stormalong
MAY STILL be available from Stinson: http://home.earthlink.net/~kaydub/


Some of the Riverside releases were US reissues of material from the Topic catalog.


Whaling Ballads, Washington WLP 724, 1966
(Probably same as Riverside RLP 12-635, 1957, Thar She Blows - with A.L. Lloyd)
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Sperm Whale Fishery 2
Blood Red Roses 1 & 2
Farewell to Tarwathie 1
Eclipse, The 2
Cold Coast of Greenland, The 1
Twenty-Third of March, The 2 (The Whale Catchers)
Coast of Peru, The 2
We'll Rant and We'll Roar 1
Reuben Ranzo 2
Bonny Ship the Diamond, The 1
Cruel Ship's Captain, The 2
Off to Sea Once More 1
Heave Away, My Johnny 2
Paddy and the Whale 1
Greenland Bound 2



Blow Boys Blow, Tradition TLP 1026, 195?

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Row Bullies Row 1 (or Liverpool Judies)
Paddy Doyle 1 [a two-man "bunt" chanty]
Wild Goose Shanty 2
While Cruising Around Yarmouth 1
Old Billy Riley 2
Handsome Cabin Boy 2 (Female Cabin-Boy)
South Australia 2 [capstan chanty]
Blow, Boys, Blow 1 (Congo River)[topsail halyard chanty]
Whup Jamboree 2
Banks of Newfoundland 1 ("We'll scrape her and we'll scrub her down")
Whiskey Johnny 1 [halyard chanty]
Do Me Ama 2 (Domeama)["pull the string"]
Jack Tar 1 [and see Homeward Bound]
Paddy West 2
Haul on The Bowline 1
Hundred Years Ago, A 2


A Sailor's Garland, Prestige International, 13043, 1961?
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Sailor's Alphabet, The 1
Bold Riley O 2
Haul Away for Rosie 1
Nancy of Yarmouth 2
Tom's Gone to Hilo 1
Sally Brown 2
Dockyard Gate, The 1
Hilo Somebody 2
Dolphin, The 1
Trim-Rig Ducksie 2
Little Sally Racket 1
Gal with the Blue Dress On 2
Leaving of Liverpool, The 1
Bring 'em Down 2
Hilo John Brown 1
Short Jacket and White Trousers 2 (Female Cabin-Boy)
Black Ball Line, The 1 [*Blackball]
General Taylor 2


Title: There she blows
Author(s): Seidman, Laurence Ivan,; 1925-
Publication: Madison, Wis. :; Hawkhill Video,
Year: 1996
Description: 1 videocassette (VHS)(22 min.) :; sd., col. ;; 1/2 in. +; 1
guide (7 p.)
Language: English
Abstract: Tells the story of whaling in New England in the 19th century.
SUBJECT(S) Descriptor(s):
Whaling -- New England -- History.
Whaling -- History -- 19th century.
Note(s): Guide contains text of the video.
Responsibility:
Hawkhill Associates ; writer, Laurence I. Seidman.
Videographers, Jane Denny, Bill Stonebarger, Michael
Stonebarger ; editor, Bill Stonebarger ; music, A.L. Lloyd &
Ewan MacColl.


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: GUEST,BULLYTANANA
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 02:02 PM

I have this album on tape I'll make you a copy and give it to you next time I see you.


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Bullytanana
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 02:20 PM

I also zeroxed the records liner notes which will also accompany the tape.


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 02:59 PM

Thank you all very much! Yes, Abby Sale, WLP 724's contents match what I'm looking for. Same, I assume, as your post, Greg F (Riverside LP, under a slightly different title).

Thank you for your offers! Bullytanana - sounds like you know me. I can't link your Mudcat name with the real you. Do you know me from the chantey sings? Send me a PM, okay? Thanks!

What a site this Mudcat is (prescriptive grammarians, just ignore that). Thank you all, again, for your help.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM

Yup- checked the discography provided by Abby Sale (Thanks!) and Whaling Ballads, Washington WLP 724, 1966 IS THE SAME as Riverside RLP 12-635, 1957, Thar She Blows - with A.L. Lloyd. Let me know if I can be of help.

Best, Greg --------------


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Bullytanana
Date: 04 Jan 01 - 01:22 AM

Who am I? well, I'll give you a clue...I sing in a group called "COMPASS ROGUES".


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 04 Jan 01 - 04:29 AM

You mean Bully-T from Joisey? The same man, formerly from San Fran?


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Bullytanana
Date: 04 Jan 01 - 01:13 PM

hi,shipmate,I owe you a apology ...I thought you somebody else....you know how it is with paddy west sailors after a turn down a Ratcliffe Highway or rattling through Tiger Bay...and I'm still good on my offer...I'm new to this computer stuff....what's a PM?


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 12:27 AM

I thought you were Greg! The only other Rogue I know is Jan. So, that means you're either...well, I won't blow your cover. Anyway, a PM is a Personal Message, one of the features of membership. Just go to the "personal pages" link at the top of the page, and click it on. It will then prompt you on your options. You can send a message to another mudcat member, view the messages you've sent or received, delete or archive (save) old messages. I got an offer on the tape through a PM, but thank you! Are you a new member? If so, consider starting a new thread, introducing yourself.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:34 AM

Bullytanana is a modest man of few words. He has been involved in the maritime music scene in NYC since the late 1960s. He sings with The New York Packet, the official music group at South Street Seaport Museum along with all of The Johnson Girls, and Dan Milner & Bob Conroy. And, to prarphrase that great old song, "for Ireland I'd not tell his name."

All the best,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: GUEST,sKIPPER
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 09:28 PM

I am looking for thus album as well any idea if it will be re issued?


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Subject: RE: Help: Whaling Ballads:MacColl/Lloyd, Wash. LP
From: GUEST,Steffen Larsen
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 05:51 PM

"Whaling Ballads" has popped up on the iTunes Store. It contains the A.L. Lloyd "Greenland bound" I have been looking for tbese 20 years ever since my dad's taped version of it came too close to a magnet, a version far better than the one on "Leviathan".
The iTunes "Whaling Ballads" however I have only listened to in preview: the audio quality is miserable, seemingly straight from a very worn and scratched LP. I dare not buy it for now.


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