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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Shantyfreak
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 01:39 PM

Interesting question that:

Which is Cicely Fox Smith's best poem?

I grant the claims of Sailortown as the best song (i.e. marriage of words and music) and have often listened to Dick Miles playing it live and on his recordings. Thanks, Dick.

But for best poem, no music, I personally have had Lee Fore Brace at the top of my list since I first came across her work, thanks to Pinch of Salt's album Hand Spike Gruel & Sea Boot Duff. Thanks Danny and co.

I stripped away the music and now use it as a recital piece.
So that is my vote. What's yours?

Shantyfreak


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:23 AM

thanks.


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 04:36 PM

Dave-

"Sussex Carole" it is. The fingers work faster than the mind sometimes. We'll be seeing Carole and Andrew in Maine next Thursday when they are doing a house concert at Sinsull's house in South Portland.

Dick-

Here's a virtual Harvey's Bitter for you!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 06:23 PM

Yes, Charley, you're right, a lot of her poems are very good.
The Lewes Arms, I played there a few times, HARVEYS BITTER, I could do with a pint of that now, a good singing crowd, fond memories.

NOT so cheerily , Dick Miles


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Dave Earl
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:41 PM

Er thats Sussex Carole Charley.

I'm sure it's only a slip of the fingers on the keyboard but I thought we should get the record straight - and they are friends of mine from when Carole was a fellow resident at The Lewes Arms.

Never mind all the above - keep up the good work.

Dave


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:17 PM

Dick-

You do deserve credit for rediscovering C. Fox Smith and channeling a splendid tune to her poem "Sailortown." Andrew MacKay and Suffolk (Sussex!) Carole showed me a vinyl copy of that recording, which they treasure, while I was recently visiting them at their home at the end of the Gower Peninsular in South Wales.

I now have a CD version of that recording that I got via Chantey Cabin, and I'm enjoying the learning of the song with my concertina.

However, with regard to your assessment:

"In my humble opinion, Sailortown is her best poem of the sea."

There are so many strong candidates for "best poem of the sea" in her collection that I would hesitate to single one out. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 02:13 PM

In case people are unaware, Sailortown was the first (CFS) sea poem set to music. I wrote a tune for it in 1987, before anyone else in the folk revival had set her poems to music.

Bob Roberts recorded the Robin Adair (Race of Long Ago) around this time but assumed it was traditional.

I first performed Sailortown at Shrewsbury festival in 1987, Jim MAGEAAN was present at the festival, heard me perform it, and history was made. Shortly after JOHNNY COLLINS recorded Sailortown, and as a result many people started putting the poetry of C. Fox Smith to music.

Dick Miles.


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 12:35 PM

In my humble opinion, Sailortown is her best poem of the sea. Dick Miles.


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 10:47 PM

There are a few more poems in the CFS manuscript that Danny McLeod has which apparently were never published, and a few poems that were published in periodicals but not re-published in her poetry books. We'll make a good faith effort to round 'em up as well. But I'll be busy for a couple of weeks just posting what I have.

The folks at Chantey Cabin had a couple of suggestions for who might be interested in publishing the anthology, and that remains one of my priorities. The format of each poem would be similar to how Jim and I have posted them at the Oldpoetry website.

We haven't decided how to order the poems. Alphabetical by title is the simplest system. If we do it book by book chronologically, some of the poems will appear more than once, sometimes with small changes, other times with substantial changes, and sometimes identical. We would appreciate suggestions from those familar with her work.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 04:15 PM

Thanks!!


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 04:11 PM

Great!


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 03:59 PM

I have just returned last October from the UK, where I succeeded in copying Songs Of Greater Britain (1899) and Wings Of The Morning (1904) at the British Library in London. Nobby had previously sent me photocopies of The Foremost Trail (1899) which I am very greatful to receive.

I would estimate that there are at least 100 more poems in the two works I've most recently acquired to post to the Oldpoetry website, which would bring the total of her published works up to at least 500 poems.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 08:18 PM

The collection of C. Fox Smith poems on the Oldpoetry website has just hit 400. The most recent additions are from one of her earliest publications, 1899. Many of these early poems are "militantly" pro-British or pro-imperialistic. She was quite offended at the socialists such as the Pankhursts that she attended school with in Manchester, as she noted later in her book All The Way Round: Sea Roads to Africa [p:1938.

Here's the link again to her collection on the Oldpoetry website: Click here for website

We still need help finding copies of three of her earliest poetry books:

Songs Of Greater Britain [p:1899
The Foremost Trail [p:1899
Wings Of The Morning [p:1904

We know there are library copies in the UK but what we really need is for someone there to photocopy the poems and mail them to myself or to Jim Saville

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 May 06 - 02:01 PM

Here are some reviews selected by one of CFS's publishers from the period 1914-1919:

From SONGS AND CHANTIES, edited by Cicely Fox Smith, published by Elkins Mathews, London, ©1919. p. 232.

Spectator

"No one, not even Mr. Mansfield, has written finer sea ballads or come closer to the heart of those who go down to the great waters. In any anthology of the sea Miss Fox Smith's 'Ballad of the Matterhorn,' 'Bill the Dreamer,' 'The Last of the Sealing Fleet' and 'Rathlin Head' must occupy a high place."

Times

"It is not likely that many lovers of sea-songs have missed the voice of Miss Fox Smith, but if they do not know her 'Songs in Sail' let them read 'Sailor Town' – the dancing colours and fresh scents of the harbour, the rush of the sea and wind, the cheery pathos of the outward-bound, the sailor's homesickness – all this is carried on the rhythm of her verses with a vividness hardly equaled by any other verse writer of the day."

Spectator

"Miss Fox Smith is one of the few people living who can write a real 'chanty' combining a mastery of sea-lingo with perfect command of sea rhythms."

Times

"These are the right stuff."

Evening Standard

"Ballads and songs of the war, reeking of spindrift and spume, breezy and direct as those who go down to the sea in ships."

Nautical Magazine

"Mr. C. Fox Smith must be congratulated on his dainty little volume of poems, 'The Naval Crown.' We remember how well we enjoyed the author's 'Sailor Town' and can say that the enjoyment and high opinion we then formed of the author have been in no way lessened by the present volume."

Navy

"The writer's vocabulary of sea phrases is striking and characteristic; the technicalities proclaim a real sea lover, and the tone and colour are only excelled by the lilt of the verses."

Times

"Miss C. Fox Smith's naval verse … shows here, as in her former collection, her exceptional métier for apt metrical celebration of the spirit, the humour of the pathos of war and of the fighting man."

Syren

"An excellent little collection of ballads referring to various phases of the war, some of which our readers have doubtless made the acquaintance of in the pages of 'Punch.' The 'Rhyme of the Inisfail' … is the gem, and an excellent one, of the collection. The author has a capital vein of humour."

Manchester City News

"The sea songs have the breath and the sound and the motion of the waters in them."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 May 06 - 11:02 AM

The collection of Cicely Fox Smith at Oldpoetry has just hit 360. There are probably another 50 or so published poems outstanding, primarily from her rare earlier poety books. Neither Shantyfreak nor I have copies of them so the project is stalled in terms of completing the collection.

These are the poetry books we know about that we don't have:

Songs Of Greater Britain [p:1899
The Foremost Trail [p:1899
Wings Of The Morning [p:1904

If you can help in completing this project, please PM me here at Mudcat or go to my personal website for my e-mail address: Charley Noble Website

If you are aware of other CFS poetry books that we might have missed, please feel free to contact me as well.

Here is our present list of published works, including non-poetry books:

Songs Of Greater Britain [p:1899
The Foremost Trail [p:1899
Wings Of The Morning [p:1904
Lancashire Hunting Songs [p:1909
The City Of Hope [f:1914
Songs In Sail [p:1914
Sailor Town: Sea Songs & Ballads [p:1914
The Naval Crown [p:1915
Fighting Men [p:1916
Small Craft [p:1917
Singing Sands (introduction only?)[p:1918
Rhymes Of The Red Ensign [1919
Songs And Chanties 1914-1916 [p:1919
Peregrine In Love (short novel)[f:1920
Ships And Folks [p:1920
Rovings: Sea Songs & Ballads [p:1921
Sailor Town Days [1923
Sea Songs And Ballads 1917-22 [p:1923
A Book Of Famous Ships [p:1924
The Return Of The "Cutty Sark" [p:1924
Ship Alley [p:1925
Yarns of an Old Shellback (intro) [p: 1925
Full Sail [p:1926
Tales Of The Clipper Ships [p:1926
A Book Of Shanties [p:1927
A Sea Chest (ed) [p:1927
Ancient Mariners [p:1928
There Was A Ship [p:1929
Ocean Racers [p:1930
The Thames [n:1931
Sailor's Delight [p:1931
True Tales Of The Sea [p:1932
Anchor Lane [p:1933
All The Other Children [p:1933
Peacock Pride (with Margaret S SMITH) [p:1934
Adventures And Perils (ed) [p:1936
All Clear Aft (includes short story PONTIFEX [p: 1936
Three Girls In A Boat (with Margaret S SMITH) [p:1938
All The Way Round: Sea Roads to Africa [p:1938
The Ship Aground [p:1940
The Voyage Of The Trevessa's Boats [p:1940
The Story Of Grace Darling (bio) [p:1940
Wayfaring Folk [p: 1945?
Here And There In England With The Painter Brangwyn [p:1945
Thames Side Yesterdays [p:1945
Country Days And Country Ways, Trudgin Afoot in England [p:1947
Painted Ports [p:1948
Knave-Go-By [p:1951
Ship Models [p:1951
Seldom Seen (with Madge S SMITH) [f:1954
The Valiant Sailor [p:1951-1955)
The Man Before the Mast (editor) [p:?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Apr 06 - 01:04 PM

The collection of Cicely Fox Smith at Oldpoetry has just hit 300, with at least another 50 to go. Check out the link above if you're interested in the original words of her poems and some notes on where they were published.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:22 AM

Here's an updated link to some 200 of Cicely Fox Smith's poems as they were published which are being posted by myself and Shantyfreak on the Oldpoetry website: Click here for website

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 04:36 PM

Nutty-

I've been meaning to send you the link to Oldpoetry. Please feel free to comment on as many poems as you like there. I know you've very knowledgeable about CFS and her poems.

I believe you also have some of her rarer books, and might be able to at least more closely date some of her poems. We have found that the poems do vary a little, from publication to publication.

Shantyfreak and I have full editing powers and would be happy to correct anything in her bio or in her poems.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: nutty
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 02:57 PM

The Old Poetry site you directed us to is wonderful ..... thanks Charlie ... another excuse not to do the housework.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 03:21 PM

I should mention that my second recording of Cicely Fox Smith poems that I've adapted for singing is now available from my website: Click here!

The poems include:

Rio Grande
Lee Fore Brace
Lumber
Hastings Mill
The Old Fiddle
Rosario
Pacific Coast

I've also recorded Alan Fitzsimmons' musical adaptation of "So Long."

There are also 8 other songs, some original, some traditional, and some by other composers.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BLUE PETER (Cicely Fox Smith)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 03:14 PM

As mentioned above William Pint set "Blue Peter" to his original tune with very little modification of Cicely Fox Smith's original words:

THE BLUE PETER (Pint)

(Words by Cicely Fox Smith, 1914, in SONGS AND CHANTIES, Elkin Mathews, pp. 24-25
also in SMALL CRAFT, ©1919, p.p. 98-99
As sung by William Pint and Felicia Dale recorded on ROUND THE CORNER, © 1997)

Last night when I left her, my true love was weeping
For sorrow at parting, but parting must be:
What use for her tears, what use to be keeping,
A lad by the fireside, that follows the sea?

For the cold day's a-breaking, the town hardly waking,
The moon like a ghost, in the pale morning sky,
Blue Peter is blowing to tell you we're going,
And the gulls in the river all calling good-bye!

The last hawser's cast, the tug-whistle's blowing,
The shore growing dim, in the mist and the rain:
And wide, very wide, is the world where we're going,
And long, very long till you see us again!

Farewell and adieu to you - still we'll be true to you,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting you, hope you'll be greeting
Some day your sailor, home from the sea!

All in the cold morning, all in the grey weather,
On the sheds, and the shipping, the rain slating down,
All hands to the capstan bars, roaring together
A stave for farewell, to the folk of the town:

Hong Kong and Vancouver, Callao and Suva,
The Cape and Kowloon, it's a very far cry,
From the slow river creeping, by houses all sleeping,
And the gulls in the wake of us, calling good-bye!
Calling good-bye!

The original words are:

Words by Cicely Fox Smith, 1914, in SONGS AND CHANTIES, Elkin Mathews, pp. 24-25
also in SMALL CRAFT, ©1919, p.p. 98-99


The Blue Peter (C. Fox Smith)


Last night when I left her my true love was weeping
For sorrow at parting, but parting must be:
What use for her tears, and what use to be keeping
A lad by the fireside that follows the sea?
For the cold day's a-breaking, the town hardly waking,
The moon like a ghost in the pale morning sky,
And the Blue Peter's blowing to tell ye we're going,
And the gulls in the river all calling good-bye!

The last hawser's cast and the tug-whistle's blowing,
The shore growing dim in the mist and the rain:
And wide, very wide, is the world where we're going,
And long, very long till ye see us again!

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting
Some day your sailormen home from the sea!

All in the cold morning, all in the grey weather,
On the sheds and the shipping the rain slating down,
All hands to the capstan bars, roaring together
A stave for farewell to the folk of the town:
Hong Kong and Vancouver, Callao and Suva,
The Cape and Kowloon, it's a very far cry
From the slow river creeping by houses all sleeping,
And the gulls in the wake of us calling good-bye!

Bob Zentz more recently has adapted the same poem to a version of the traditional forebitter "We'll Rant and We'll Roar" which I think is more in keeping with what Cicely might have been hearing in her head:

Words by Cicely Fox Smith in SMALL CRAFT, ©1919, p.p. 98-99
As sung by Bob Zentz
Tune: traditional "We'll Rant and We'll Roar"

The Blue Peter (Bob Zentz)

Last night when I left her my true love was weeping
For sorrow at parting, but parting must be:
What use for her tears, what use to be keeping
A lad by the fireside that follows the sea?
For the cold day's a-breaking, the town hardly waking,
The moon like a ghost in the pale morning sky,
And Blue Peter's blowing to tell ye we're going,
And the gulls in the river are calling good-bye!

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting;
Some day your sailor come home from the sea!

The last hawser's cast and the tug-whistle's blowing,
The shore growing dim, in the mist and the rain:
And wide, very wide, is the world where we're going,
And long, very long till we see you again!

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting;
Some day your sailor come home from the sea!

All in the cold morning, all in the grey weather,
On the sheds and the shipping, the rain slating down,
All hands to the capstan bars, roaring together
A stave of farewell to the folk of the town:

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting;
Some day your sailor come home from the sea!

Hong Kong and Vancouver, Callao and Suva,
The Cape and Kowloon, it's a very far cry
From the slow river creeping, by houses all sleeping,
And the gulls in the wake of us calling good-bye!

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting;
Some day your sailor come home from the sea!

Last night when I left her, my true love was weeping
For sorrow at parting, but parting must be:
What use for her tears, and what use to be keeping
A lad by the fireside that follows the sea?

Farewell and adieu to ye - still we'll be true to ye,
Still we'll remember, wherever we be, -
Hope we'll be meeting ye, hope ye'll be greeting;
Some day your sailor come home from the sea!

It's a really haunting song and I may just have to learn it. Hopefully Bob Zentz will finally get it together to get his CD of C. Fox Smith songs printed so more folks can appreciate the fine work he's been doing with her poems for years.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 05:02 PM

Shantyfreak and I have also begun a column on Newpoetry.com, sister website to Oldpoetry.com, which focuses on nautical poetry by C. Fox Smith and others. There are links to a wide variety of nautical poems: Click here for a knotty and nautical time!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:50 AM

Well, I'm back from a wonderful visit to the Pacific Northwest. Here are some working notes from my research in Victoria, Vancouver, and Steveston Village:

Notes by Charles Ipcar, 8/30/05
DRAFT
On the Trail of C. Fox Smith


Cicely Fox Smith was resident in the Victoria, B.C. area from 1904 to 1913. She earned her living, as she described, by "thumping a typewriter, first for the BC Lands Department and then working for an attorney" in downtown Victoria. Much of her many volumes of poetry and short stories drew inspiration from her stay. In the evenings she would walk along the wharfs and engage the shipkeepers and other nautical denizens in long conversations. She collected many fine yarns, traditional sea shanties and other sea songs, and became a master at recreating "the sailor's voice" in her poems and short stories.

Unfortunately, whatever personal journals Smith kept have not resurfaced, and she was certainly the kind of person who would have kept a comprehensive journal. There is a manuscript of some of her pre-1920 poems that did survive, thanks to her sister Margaret Scott Smith, and it's now safe in the hands of an ardent admirer and traditional style singer, one Danny McLeod of the UK. Whatever she did while she was in residence in BC can only be surmised from her many descriptions in her poems and passages from her other books.

This summer (2005) I too walked the streets of the Victoria waterfront, with short forays to the City of Vancouver and neighboring Steveston Village. Standing at the site of one of her favorite haunts Victoria's old Outer Wharfs, now identified as Shoal Point, I too watched the "old sunset glory setting all the clouds aflame" and "the snow-crowned peaks that gleam" of the Olympic Mountains across Juan de Fuca Strait. What a heavenly sight! And the sight is still to be enjoyed by anyone who walks there. However, as she feared "The ports I knew grown strange" is an apt description for what has happened to Victoria's working waterfront. Most of the old buildings have been torn down and replaced with high-rise hotels and condominiums. Only a dozen or so remnants survive of the buildings she would have remembered from where she worked as a typist.

She described her law office as being "up two flights of stairs in Wharf Street", "next door but one from a ship-chandler's establishment." One of those shops nearby during her residence was most likely McQuade's Ship Chandlery Shop, 1250 Wharf St., now part of the building occupied by the famed Chandlers Sea Food Restaurant. The cross references would be Yates Street and Bastion Square. Some of the other buildings she described in the neighborhood that she used to see during her lunch break included the Occidental Hotel, the Panama Saloon, and the junk shops in nearby Chinatown. Further north down Shore Street was likely one of her other favorite haunts the Rock Bay Lumber Mills, where she'd watch the longshore crew loading lumber into tall ships. This arm of the Inner Harbour was also where the tugboats would berth and the old sealing schooners she was so fond of were moored. Just below Wharf Street were warehouses and the shipping offices for many single ship firms such as the clipper ship Antipode, identified by their modest white on black sign boards. And on her block there was an abundance of wholesale grocery shops, hotels and saloons, including the Ship Inn (one of Victoria's first drinking establishments).

In Vancouver, there was the famous Hasting Lumber Mill, the subject of her poem "Hastings Mill," located at the foot of Dunlevy Street along the waterfront of Burrard Inlet, adjacent to the Union Steamship Company Wharf; the mill office was salvaged and floated in 1930 on a barge to a park on English Bay, 1575 Alma Street, where it now serves as a small museum.

In the Village of Steveston, now part of the bedroom community of Richmond, I could find no trace in their archives of a "Steveston Lumber Mill," one that Smith explicitly mentioned in her poem, "Lumber." In the early 1900's there were over a dozen salmon canneries along that waterfront and a boat building yard but no evidence of a saw mill. Nor could I find, while searching the BC archives, a Steveston Mill elsewhere in B.C. However, I have subsequently learned from Jon Bartlett of the VFFS Shanty Crew that:

"The CP line from Vancouver to Steveston, built in 1902, passed through the new mills at Eburne (now South Vancouver), allowing it to ship lumber south to be loaded at Steveston onto sailing ships bound for Europe."

There is a reference to Steveston in another poem "Port o' Dreams":

She went missin' many a year since bound from Steveston home with deals.

"Deals" are inexpensive planks. So at the very least there was lumber being shipped out from Steveston during the period when Smith was resident in BC.
We had a great time wherever we went sharing the musical arrangements of C. Fox Smith's poems with folks at various house concerts, house parties, and other musical gatherings.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, back in Maine!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:11 PM

I note that there is a Hastings Mill Museum in Vancouver and I'm planning to visit it when I'm in the area in a couple of weeks. Dave McArthur is hosting a song party for me in nearby Richmond in Steveston Village on Thursday, August 25th, and it's a good bet that I'll be singing "Hastings Mill", "Lumber", "Pacific Coast" and "The Old Fiddle" that evening.

We then go on to Victoria where I'm planning to make a similar presentation at the Nautical Song Circle that takes place at the Bent Mast Pub in the James Bay neighborhood on Saturday, August 27.

Here's one of Cicely's descriptions of Victoria Harbour when she was hanging out there in the early 1900's:

From Cicely Fox Smith's SAILOR-TOWN DAYS, 1923 pp. 163-164


"You can sit on the edge of the Outer Wharf at Victoria, and fish for black bass with a bit of cotton rag, and watch the great ships come in from the sea with the wonder of the East in their holds.

Over across the Strait of Juan de Fuca the summits of the ranges of the American mainland are flushed with faint rose, for it is only at sunset that the black bass bite. There is a smell of forest fires in the air, and a glow on the flanks of the remote mountains, and a light wisp of cloud that means miles of ravaged woodland and an inferno of smoke and flame in which men are fighting, parched and blackened like demons. The light on Brotchie Ledge has just begun to wink leisurely, and far out on Race Rocks the lighthouse answers it with his occulting beam.

The sun has gone down into the China Seas in a great fiery golden pomp, like the sea-burial of an old Norse king, and a splendid afterglow, slow and solemn as a funeral march, goes flooding up to the zenith like the glow of a funeral pyre; and on the edge of it hangs a lonely star. A small moon drifts like a feather dropped from an archangel's wing. A riding-light has begun to glimmer in the rigging of the anchored windjammer in the Royal Roads."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: HASTINGS MILL (C. Fox Smith)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 02:05 PM

Joe posted the original version of this poem above. I've now had some more time to process it for singing. I'm now using "Cheerokee Shuffle" as the tune rather than Bob Zentz' "The Portsmouth Road", added a refrain line and dropped one verse, and changed some of the wording. Here's the result (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 to line up chords):

HASTINGS MILL

(Original words by Cicely Fox Smith, 1919, in SAILOR TOWN, pp. 56-57
Adapted for singing by Charles Ipcar © 2005
Tune: traditional "Cherokee Shuffle")

C--------------------------------Am----C---------------Am
As I went down by Hastings Mill, I lingered in my going,
----F------------------C---------Am--------C------------------Am
To sniff the smell of piled-up deals and feel the salt wind blowing,
------C------G----------C
And feel the salt wind blowing;
----F----------------C-------------------------F-----------------C
To hear the cables fret and creak, and the rigging stir and sigh –
F---------------------Am------------C--------------------Am
"Shipmate, oh, my shipmate!" as in those days gone by,
----C--------G----------C
As in those days gone by.

As I went down by Hastings Mill, I saw a ship there lying,
All about her masts and yards the sunset clouds a-flying,
The sunset clouds a-flying;
And I mistook her for the ghost of one I used to know –
"Shipmate, oh, my shipmate!" so many years ago,
So many years ago.

As I went down by Hastings Mill, I heard a fella singing,
While chipping off the deep-sea rust, above the tide a-swinging,
Above the tide a-swinging;
And well I knew the queer old tune and well the song he sung –
"Shipmate, oh, my shipmate!" as when the world was young,
As when the world was young.

And past the rowdy Union Wharf, and by the still tide sleeping,
To a randy dandy deep-sea tune my heart in time was keeping,
My heart in time was keeping;
To the thin far sound all in the dusk of an anchor watch a-hauling –
"Shipmate, oh, my shipmate!" with evening shadows falling,
With evening shadows falling!

(Instrumental break for two lines)
And the voice of one I knew so well, across the harbour calling –
"Shipmate, oh, my shipmate!" with evening shadows falling,
With evening shadows falling!


Notes:

The wood-hulled, steam-powered tug Haro was built in Vancouver for B.C. Mills (Hastings Mill) for its harbor service.

The Hastings Shingle & Manufacturing Company: After a bit of re-organization, the Woods-Spicer Company was bought out for $1,200 by the Hastings Shingle & Manufacturing Company in 1906. Hastings was owned by the McNair brothers.

In 1896 Julius M. Fromme had been appointed supervisor of Hastings' operations on the woods. The Hastings upper mill off Dempsey Road was built in 1904 and closed in 1910.

Thomas Allen interviewed the McNairs to buy the Hastings Mill and paid $2,000 in down payment to $20,000. He quickly turned his eyes to real estate so he sold his interests to his partner J.M. Fromme who formed the Lynn Valley Lumber Company.

Location: on the South Shore of Burrard Inlet, near Powell Street.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 03:58 PM

I was curious which book "Hastings Mill" was from, as posted above by Joe Offer. I finally tracked it down in my latest acquisition, SAILOR TOWN. The correct reference should be: Words by Cicely Fox Smith, as published in SAILOR TOWN, pp. 56-57, ©1919.

"Hastings Mill" is a reference to a saw mill in the Vancouver, BC, area. Cicely would often walk over to the mill and watch the tall ships being loaded with lumber at its dock.

You can sing the poem to the same tune that Bob Zentz uses for "The Portsmouth Road."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 06:35 PM

So there's a total of five C. Fox Smith poems that I've adapted for singing with new MP3 samples on my personal website:Click here!

The songs include:

Flying-Fish Sailor
Outward Bound
Limehouse Reach
Port o' Dreams
Mariquita

One can also purchase a CD of UNCOMMON SAILOR SONGS from that same website which also includes poems by John Masefield, Robert Lewis Stevenson and others that I've arranged for singing. There is also a set of completely original songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: GUEST,Charley Noble
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 09:56 AM

Here's a link to my personal website for a MP3 sample of my arrangement of "Mariquita":Click here!

I think this one is a keeper as well.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 07:52 AM

Thanks, Amos! Port o' Dreams has been fun to work with.

Sure wish she'd left a diary around, but probably some thoughtless niece or nephew tossed it into the trash. At least Danny McLeod managed to rescue a manuscript of her poems from a used book dealer in Sydney; there were several unpublished poems in that with some notes in the margins.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Amos
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 12:01 AM

These look mighty fine, Charlie -- I love hearing you do Port O' Dreams!!

She certainly captures the spirit of the trade, now, don't she?

A


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Subject: RE: LYR.Add.:Mariquita
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:52 PM

I was looking for another poem for my orphan tune for "Outward Bound" which was a fine tune but not quite the right spirit for that song. I think I've found it in the poem "Mariquita." What do you think? Here's the original poem:

Poem by C. Fox Smith, FULL SAIL, pp. 108-110, © 1926

MARIQUITA

Old man Time, 'e's wrote his log up in the wrinkles on my brow,
And there ain't that much about me as a girl 'ud take to now;
For I've changed beyond all knowing from the chap I used to be,
When I can remember Mariquita, as was mighty fond o' me!

I can shut my eyes and see it just as plain as yesterday,
See the harbour and the mountains and the shipping in the bay,
And the town as looked like heaven to us shellbacks fresh from sea
And I can remember Mariquita, as thought a deal o' me!

I can hear the chiming mule-bells, and a stave o' Spanish song,
And the blessed old guitarros as kep' tinkling all night long;
Hear the dusty palm trees stirring, taste the vino flat and sour,
And I can remember Mariquita, and her white skirts like a flower.

But it's years now since I've seen her, if she's died I never knew,
Or got old and fat and ugly, same as Dagoes mostly do;
And it's maybe better that way, for there's nothing left but change,
And the ships I knew all going, and the ports I knew grown strange,
And the chaps I knew all altered, like the chap I used to be,
But I can remember Mariquita, and she's always young for me.

And here's what I'm currently singing (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 to line up the chords):

MARIQUITA

(Poem by C. Fox Smith, FULL SAIL, pp. 108-110, © 1926
Adapted and musically arranged by Charlie Ipcar © 2004)


G-----------------D---------G-------C------G---------D-----G
Old man Time's wrote his log up on the wrinkles of my brow,
------------D----G---D------C---------G--------C-----G--------D
And there ain't that much a-bout me as a girl would take to now;
--------------------G--D--------C---------G-------------C-G-------D
For I've changed be-yond all knowing from the man I used to be,
---------G---------D----G-----C---------G------D-------G
But I re-member Mari-quita who was mighty fond of me!


I can shut my eyes and see it, just as plain as yesterday;
See the mountains and the harbour and the shipping in the bay,
And the town as looked like heaven, to us shellbacks fresh from sea,
And I remember Mariquita who thought a deal of me!

I can hear the chiming mule-bells and a stave of Spanish song,
And the blessed old guitarros, tinkling all night long;
Hear the dusty palm trees stirring, taste the vino flat and sour,
And I remember Mariquita with her white skirts like a flower.

But it's years now since I've seen her; if she's died I never knew,
Or got old and fat and onery, as most young sweethearts do;
And me pals have changed as well now, from the men they used to be,
When I first met Mariquita on the quayside by the sea.

It's maybe better that way for there's nothing left but change;
With the ships I knew laid up and lost and the ports I knew grown strange,
Though I've changed beyond all knowing from the man I used to be,
I remember Mariquita and she's always young for me.

One line I felt I had to change was:

"Or got old and fat and ugly, same as Dagoes mostly do"

That's over the top for me but probably an accurate relection of how sailors talked at the time.

There were also a couple of extra lines that I needed to fill in for, or drop out. I'm not sure which is better at this point. When this song is really down, I'll record a MP3 sample and load it onto my website.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 06:31 PM

Here's a link to my personal website for a MP3 sample of how I sing "Port o' Dreams":Click here!

I did some more research on a few references in the song:

"Steveston" probably refers to an old lumber shipping port near Vancouver, BC, which is now a village in the Town of Richmond and the current site of tall ship festivals and the Britannia Heritage Shipyard where shanty swaps take place on a monthly basis coordinated by the Vancouver Folk Song Society.

The Maid of Athens may have been a brigantine that became shipwrecked on Statan Island, the one off Cape Horn, in 1870 after her cargo of coal began to burn. The captain's wife Emily Wooldridge kept a journal of their castaway experience which has been recently published. They were not loaded down with "deal," which is low-grade planks, but perhaps C. Fox Smith was expercising some poetic license. Emily and some of the crew refitted the ship's longboat and eventually made it to Port Stanley in the Falklands, whereupon a rescue steamer was sent back for the rest of the crew.

The Maid of Athens is also a reference to a Lord Byron poem and it's likely that the ships of that name were inspired by the poem. Of course Byron also composed poems to the Maid of Cadiz and poems to several other fair maids, and each appears unique. Cynics might have hoped for some overlap but there is none apparent.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: ADD:Port o' Dreams
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 12:31 PM

"Port o' Dreams" is another haunting masterpiece by C. Fox Smith and William Pint and Felicia Dale used the title for one of their recordings, quoted from the poem, but did not arrange it for singing. Joyce McCleod, however, was reading the poem one day and found it worked very nicely to the tune of Carol King's "Tapestry" and she and her husband Danny recorded it on their CD NEVER A CROSS WORD, © 2002 Old and New Tradition. You may contact them for copies and further information about C. Fox Smith at:info@oldandnewtradition.com

I like what Joyce does with this poem but I heard a different tune, one that Jon Campbell uses for his song "The Mary." I also do more changes to the wording of the poem and add an extra line to make a reprise at the end. Here's the original poem:


Port o' Dreams

(Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, p.p. 32-33, © 1924)

"There's a deal o' ports," said Murphy, "an' I guess I've sampled most,
Round about the Gulf o' Guinea, and up an' down the Chili coast,
In the Black Sea an' the Baltic an' the China seas I've been,
An' the North Sea an' the South Sea an' the places in between.

An' the ports as look the finest turns out some'ow worst of all,
For I lost my chum in Rio in a Dago dancin' 'all,
An' I lost my bloomin' 'eart once to a wench in Callao,
An' I lost my youth in Frisco, but that's years an' years ago.

But there's one I've never sighted out of all the ports there be;
It's a place a feller talked of as was shipmates once with me,
In the hooker Maid of Athens, she was one of Dunc Macneill's,
She went missin' many a year since bound from Steveston home with deals.

An' this feller said the drinks there are the best a man could find,
An' a sailor's always welcome, an' the girls are always kind,
An' there's dancin' an' there's singin' an' there's every sort o' fun,
In the plaza of an evenin' when the lazy sun is done.

An' the blessed old Pacific he keeps singin' like a psalm,
To the shippin' in the roadstead an' the firefly in the palm,
An' the days are never scorchin' an' the nights are never 'ot,
In that port 'e used to yarn of with the name I've clean forgot.

An' I'll never fetch that harbour, but it's maybe for the best,
For I daresay if I found it, it'd be like all the rest,
An' I like to think it's waitin', waitin' all the while for me,
With the red wine an' the white wine an' the dancin' an' the spree,
An' the firefly gleamin' golden in the palms I'll never see!"

Here's what I've done with it (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 to line up chords):


PORT O' DREAMS

(Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, p.p. 32-33, © 1924
Adapted for music by Charles Ipcar, 8/25/04
Tune: by Jon Campbell "The Mary" ©)


D-------------G--------------C---G-------------------------------------D--G
"Now there's many ports," said Murphy, "and I guess I've sam-pled most,
D-----G-C------------------------------------D------------------D7
Round a-bout the Gulf of Guinea, up and down the Chili coast,
---G-----------------C--G------------------------------D---G
The Black Sea and the Baltic, and the China seas I've seen,
----C-------------------------------------------D----------D7
The North Sea and the South Sea, and the places in between.
------D----------------------D7----C---------------------G
And the ports as look the finest turn out worst of all,
------D-----------------D7-------C---------------D
For I lost my chum in Rio, in a Dago dancin' hall,
------G----------------C--G---------------------------------D-G
And I lost my bloom-in' heart once, to a wench in Cal-la-o,
-------C------------------------------------D------------D7
And I lost my youth in Frisco, now so many years ago.

But there's one I've never sighted, of all the ports there be;
It's a place a feller talked of as was shipmates once with me,
In the hooker Maid of Athens, she was one of Dunc Macneill's,
She's gone missin' many a year now, bound from Steveston home with deals;
And this feller said the drinks there are the best a man could find,
And a sailor's always welcome, and the girls are always kind;
There's dancin' and there's singin' and there's every sort of fun,
On the plaza in the evening when the lazy sun is done.

And the blessed old Pacific, keeps singin' like a psalm,
To the ships out in the roadstead, and the firefly in the palm,
And the days are never scorchin', and the nights are never hot,
In that port he used to yarn of, with the name I've clean forgot!
So I'll never fetch that harbour, but it's maybe for the best,
For I daresay if I found it, it'd be like all the rest;
Still I'd like to think it's waitin', waitin' just for me,
With the red wine and the white wine, the dancin' and the spree.

D---------------------------D7------C----------------G
Still I'd like to think it's waitin', waitin' just for me,
----------D-------------------D7---------------C----------------D
With the red wine and the white wine, the dancin' and the spree;
------G---------C--G----------------------------D--G
And a table by the quayside, a good gal for my knee,
----------C----------------------------------D------------------D7
With the firefly gleamin' golden, in the palms I'll never see!"

I'm intrigued that Murphy knows better, but still loves the dream. It's the kind of thought that separates C. Fox Smith's poems from ones that are more blatently romantic or nostalgic.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 04:06 PM

LIKE that one....now if I could get the brain cell firing...


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 03:58 PM

Here's another take on fitting this poem to a tune, this time to the traditional sea song "Rolling Home":

Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, pp. 96-97, © 1924
Adapted for singing by Charles Ipcar, 8/25/2004
Tune: after traditional "Rolling Home"

Pacific Coast-2


Half across the world to westward, there's a harbour that I know,
Where the ships that load with lumber, and those China liners go;
Where the wind blows cold and gusty, off the snow-crowned peaks that gleam,
Out across the Straits at twilight, like the landfall of a dream.

Chorus:

There's a harbour that I know,
There's a harbour that I know,
Half across the world from England,
There's a harbour that I know.


And I daresay if I went there, I'd find it all the same,
Still the same old sunset glory, setting all the clouds aflame,
Still the smell of burning forests, on the quiet evening air,
Little things my heart remembers, nowhere else on earth but there. (CHO)

Still the harbour gulls a-calling, calling night and day,
And the wind across the water, singing just the same old way,
As it did among the rigging, of a ship I used to know,
Half across the world from England, now so many years ago. (CHO)

She is gone beyond my finding, gone forever, ship and man,
Far beyond that scarlet sunset, flaming down behind Japan;
But perhaps I'll find the dream there, that I lost so long ago,
Half across the world to westward, in a harbour that I know...(CHO)

It seems to work as well as "Mandalay" and maybe it's better not to confuse the two tunes, although they do share a line or two in common.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE:ADD:Pacific Coast
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 04:34 PM

Looks like I've channeled another tune for a C. Fox Smith poem. This one entitled "Pacific Coast" looks back at the youthful days she spent working on the Victoria, BC, waterfront, as a typist. The tune composed by Peter Bellamy for Kipling's "Mandalay" is a remarkably good fit, and there is a minimum of words I feel need changing for singing, except to add a refrain from the last line of each verse.

Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, pp. 96-97, © 1924
Adapted for singing by Charles Ipcar, 8/20/2004
Tune: Peter Bellamy's music for "Mandalay"

Pacific Coast


Half across the world to westward, there's a harbour that I know,
Where the ships that load with lumber and those China liners go;
Where the wind blows cold at sunset, off the snow-crowned peaks that gleam
Out across the Straits at twilight, like the landfall of a dream.

Refrain:

Like the landfall of a dream,
Like the landfall of a dream,
Out across the Straits at twilight,
Like the landfall of a dream.

There's a sound of foreign voices; there are wafts of strange perfume,
And a two-stringed fiddle playing, somewhere in an upstairs room;
There's a rosy tide lap-lapping, on an old worm-eaten quay,
And a scarlet sunset flaming down, beyond the China Sea.(REF)

And I daresay if I went there now I'd find it all the same,
Still the same old sunset glory, setting all the skies aflame,
Still the smell of burning forests, on the quiet evening air,
Little things my heart remembers, nowhere else on earth but there.(REF)

Still the harbour gulls a-calling, calling all the night and day,
And the wind across the water, singing just the same old way,
As it used to in the rigging, of a ship I used to know,
Half across the world from England, now so many years ago. (REF)

She is gone beyond my finding, gone forever, ship and man,
Far beyond that scarlet sunset, flaming down behind Japan;
But maybe I?ll find the dream there, that I lost so long ago,
Half across the world to westward, in a harbour that I know...(REF
Half across the world from England, now so many years ago.

Here's the original poem:

Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, pp. 96-97, © 1924

Pacific Coast


Half across the world to westward there's a harbour that I know,
Where the ships that load with lumber and the China liners go, ?
Where the wind blows cold at sunset off the snow-crowned peaks that gleam
Out across the Straits at twilight like the landfall of a dream.

There's a sound of foreign voices, there are wafts of strange perfume,
And a two-stringed fiddle playing somewhere in an upstairs room;
There's a rosy tide lap-lapping on an old worm-eaten quay,
And a scarlet sunset flaming down behind the China Sea.

And I daresay if I went there I should find it all the same,
Still the same old sunset glory setting all the skies aflame,
Still the smell of burning forests on the quiet evening air,
Little things my heart remembers nowhere else on earth but there.

Still the harbour gulls a-calling, calling all the night and day,
And the wind across the water singing just the same old way
As it used to in the rigging of a ship I used to know
Half across the world from England, many and many a year ago.

She is gone beyond my finding, gone forever, ship and man,
Far beyond that scarlet sunset flaming down behind Japan;
But I'll maybe find the dream there that I lost so long ago,
Half across the world to westward in a harbour that I know,
Half across the world from England many and many a year ago.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 03:20 PM

I was re-reading this fine thread and rediscovered this query from Santa:

In "The Cape Horner", the chorus goes "'crost the road to Newcastle, back to 'Frisco Bay"

Which Newcastle, and what does "'crost the roads" mean in this context?

I now suspect that the "Newcastle" in question was the old coal port in South Australia, with the "road" being the Pacific Ocean.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: LYR.:ADD.: Old Shellback, The
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 02:26 PM

In another thread I was reworking C. Fox Smith's "Outward Bound" which is now on my personal website as a MP3 sample file for those who would like to hear how it sounds:Click here!

Today I was rereading some of her poems and came across "The Old Shellback" which seems to work quite well to the traditional tune "Sweet Betsey from Pike." Here's the original poem:

Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, p.p. 119-120, © 1924


The Old Shellback


By Murphy's Hotel as I loitered along
I heard an old shellback a-singing his song,
A crazy old chorus, a song of no skill,
In a voice that was boozy, and broken, and shrill.

A roaring old song of the ships and the men
In fine days departed which come not again,
With the chink of the glasses came drifting the tune
And the smell of the drinks out of Murphy's saloon.

I stood there to hear it, and swift as I heard
My soul like a ship was awakened and stirred,
Like a vessel becalmed when she quivers to feel
The kiss of the Trade from her truck to her keel.

Then fast fled my heart down the seas and the years,
And the winds of the world they blew loud in my ears,
The winds of the ocean recalling to me
Lost things and lovely, like dawns on the sea.

Lips that have smiled on me, friends who have fled,
All that was Life in the time that is sped,
Laughter of long ago, frolics gone by
In the ports of the West where the windjammers lie.

Nights off the Horn, and the ice on our spars,
Tall skysail clippers a-raking the stars,
With a "blow the man up, bullies, blow the man down",
And a crew of hard cases from Liverpool town!

Here's how I've reworked it, adding a chorus:

Poem by C. Fox Smith, SEA SONGS & BALLADS 1917-22, p.p. 119-120, © 1924
Adapted for singing by Charles Ipcar ©2004
Tune: Traditional "Sweet Betsey from Pike"


The Old Shellback


By Murphy's Hotel as I loitered along
I heard an old shellback a-singing this song,
A crazy old chorus, a song of no skill,
In a voice that was boozy, and broken, and shrill.

Chorus:

With a blow the man up, bullies, blow the man down,
We're a crew of hard cases from Liverpool town!


A roaring old song of the ships and the men
From fine days departed which come not again,
With the chink of the glasses came drifting this tune
And the smell of the drinks out of Murphy's saloon? (CHO)

I stood there to hear it, and swift as I heard
My soul like a ship was awakened and stirred,
Like a vessel becalmed when she quivers to feel
The kiss of the Trade from her truck to her keel.

Then fast fled my heart down the seas and the years,
And the winds of the world they blew loud in my ears,
The winds of the ocean recalling to me
Lost things and lovely, like dawns on the sea.

Lips that have smiled on me, friends who have fled,
All that was Life in the time that is sped;
Laughter of long ago, frolics gone by
In the ports of the West where the windjammers lie.

Nights off Cape Horn, and the ice on our spars,
Tall skysail clippers a-raking the stars;
With a "blow the man up, bullies, blow the man down",
We're a crew of hard cases from Liverpool town! (CHO)

By the way I understand from Bob Zentz that he is close to recording his CD of C. Fox Smith poems that's he's arranged for singing. Can't wait to hear it.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Michael in Swansea
Date: 26 Jul 03 - 06:14 AM

Since my last post, 14 Feb last year, I now have 30 of her books.
I've had a couple of disappointments. Last October a copy of "All The Other Children" came up for grabs, I contacted the seller, a reputable shop in Canterbury UK, sent off the money, and it seems to have gone astray. Lost in the post.
Having access to the 'net only in work can cause major upsets. Monday June 9th this year I was having cavity wall insulation put in my house so I had a day off work only to find an e-mail waiting for me on Tuesday telling me that a copy of "The Foremost Trail", first edition 1899, had been found for the princely sum of A$11 ! ! ! Hastily e-mails seller, don't know why I was in so much of a hurry Australia being half a day ahead, only to have a reply saying it had been sold 15 hours earlier. 15 hours ! Cavity walls got a lot to answer for.

Mike


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 13 Jul 03 - 07:03 AM

Anymore news on that website idea, JohnB?

We were discussing CFS at the 'Songs in the Snug' session at the Railway in Lymm which is the village where Cicely was born...it'd be nice to do something there regarding the lady.

All the best...........Harry.


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Jun 03 - 08:05 PM

Those interested in hearing my arrangements for "Limehouse Reach" and "Shanghai Passage" can now access an MP3 sample on my personal website:Charley Noble Website

You'll also find my rendering of "So Long (All Coil Down)" as sung by Danny and Joyce McLeod.

The lyrics and MP3 files for some reason seem to be more directly accessible using Internet Explorer; Netscape saves them to the desktop.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: LYR.ADD.:Sweethearts and Wives
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 04:49 PM

Here's another C. Fox Smith sea poem I've been reworking for singing. The original poem is below:

Original poem by C. Fox Smith, 1931
In Sailor's Delight, pp. 111-113

Sweethearts & Wives

The very first voyage as ever I made
I went to sea in the East Coast trade,
And I courted a gal at Seaton Sluice-
If her name warn't Lizzie it must ha' been Luce-

So I did!

And then I signed in a Colonies clipper
With a rare old rip of a racing skipper,
And there warn't no sense nor there warn't no use
A-courting a gal at Seaton Sluice;
So I looked for another down Melbourne way-
If her name warn't Kitty it must ha' been May-

So I did!

Oh, next I sailed in a pearlin' brig
To the South Sea Ilses both little and big,
Where it warn't no use, say what you may,
A-courting a gal down Melbourne way;
So I didn't worry with her no longer,
But I soon picked up with a gal in Tonger,
An' island gal as brown as a berry –
Don't know her name, but I called her "Cherry"-

So I did!

(And so on ad lib.)

But last I signed in a Liverpool liner –
Go where you will and you won't find a finer!
And it's time, thinks I, to be settlin' down,
So I married a widder in Monkeytown,
With a bit in the bank and a "corner-off,"
And when I'm ashore now I lives like a toff.

And as for the girl at Seaton Sluice
I 'ope she ain't waitin', for that ain't no use,
And as for the ones at Montreal
And Tanger and Taltal and Melbourne and all,
And all the whole boilin' from France to Fiji,
I 'ope they're all married and 'appy like me-

So I do!

My adaptation drops some lines and adds a chorus, while still keeping to the spirit of the original poem. I'm not aware of anyone who has reworked this one but I've sent copies to Danny McLeod and Bob Zentz (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 for chord placement):


SWEETHEARTS AND WIVES-2

(Original poem by C. Fox Smith, 1931
In Sailor's Delight, pp. 111-113
Adapted by Charlie Ipcar, 2003
Tune: "Worst Old Brig" ("Waitin' for the Day"))

C---------------------------F
The very first voyage as ever I made,
-C-------------------------G
I went to sea in the East Coast trade,
-------C---------------------F
And I courted me a gal at Seaton Sluice-
--G—C----------------------------------G-----C
If her name warn't Lizzie it must ha' been Luce.

And then I signed in a Colonies clipper,
With a rare old rip of a racing skipper,
So I looked for a gal down Melbourne way -
If her name warn't Kitty it must ha' been May.

Chorus:

C
Sweethearts and wives,
F
Sweethearts and wives,
G--C
We spend o'r lives
-------------G-----------C
With sweet-hearts and wives!

Oh, next I sailed in a pearlin' brig
To the South Sea Ilses, both little and big,
I met me a gal as brown as a berry –
Couldn't say her name, but I called her "Cherry." (CHO)

But last I signed in a Liverpool liner –
Go where you will, there's no ship finer!
And it's time, thinks I, to be settlin' down,
So I married me a widder in Monkeytown. (CHO)

And as for that gal at Seaton Sluice,
I 'ope she ain't waitin', for that ain't no use,
And as for the ones from Melbourne to Fiji,
I 'ope they's all married and 'appy like me! (CHO)

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:10 PM

Santa-

No, the lines are lifted directly from her sea poem (and Danny and Joyce take great pains not to alter a single line or word of C. Fox Smith's sea poems unlike me). The "road" may simplely refer to the sea route back and forth. In another of her sea poems, "Flying-Fish Sailor", she speaks of "the road of the flying-fish sailor" vividly describing the different stretches from England to the Far East. But who knows? Any other brilliant ideas?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Six Sea Songs
From: GUEST,Stéphane J. Brenot, stephanejb@aol.com
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 03:24 PM

I will be taking a singing examination at the trinity College shortly, and was looking for information on Cicely Fox Smith's Limehouse Reach. I found all I needed on this forum, and wanted to show my gratitude !

I wanted to bring an information to you after Hank Lay's, message posted on 27 February 2002 regarding Michael Head's setting to music CFS'Six Sea Songs ;

The Six Sea Songs are :

1. A Sea Burthen
2. Limehouse Reach
3. Back To Hilo
4. A Dog's Life
5. Lavender Pond
6. Sweethearts And Wives

They are available at Boosey and Hawkes (Archives, Authorised Custom Prints) ;

For your information, Limehouse Reach is part of the Syllabus of the Singing Examinations of the Trinity College.

Thank you !


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Santa
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:30 AM

Thanks, Charley, but it doesn't ring true to me. I'd expect it to imply a port somewhere on the Pacific Coast - perhaps even somewhere near California.

Assuming of course that it is in the original poem and is not just added for copyright effect by Danny and Co.! Just joking, I think.


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 07:44 PM

Santa-

My best guess for "Newcastle" is Newcastle/Cardiff, England, loading coal for California, "crost the road" may mean crossing the Channel after unloading nitrates from Callao in France or Germany. But maybe someone has a better guess.

It's also true that in a nautical sense "roads" often refers to a large area where ships anchor prior to warping in for unloading or loading cargo. Doesn't seem to make sense here.

Val- give Danny and Joyce McLeod my best when you see them at the Lancaster Maritime Festival.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: GUEST,Val
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 11:52 AM

Danny and Joyce McLeod will be appearing at Lancaster Maritime Festival over easter weekend and one of their sets will be a special hour long presentation about C Fox Smith. No doubt their other performances will also feature her work. Also, a Liverpool duo, called Forebitter, have done similar work on some of John Masefield's poetry and this will also be showcased at the Festival. What a literary bunch we are becoming!


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Santa
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 10:29 AM

In "The Cape Horner", the chorus goes
"'crost the road to Newcastle, back to 'Frisco Bay"

Which Newcastle, and what does "'crost the roads" mean in this context?


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 01:06 PM

Ooops... C.Fox SMITH... not C.Fox the luthier...

my mistake!

jpc


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Subject: RE: C. Fox Smith Sea Poems
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 12:55 PM

A friend of mine has about 27 or so (I think that's the number anyhow)
C. Fox Smith books and is interested in starting a website about her.
Anyone know if anything exists or is in the works.

JohnB


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