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GUEST,Jeep Man 18 Nov 03 - 09:14 PM
Amos 18 Nov 03 - 09:15 PM
Cluin 18 Nov 03 - 09:22 PM
GUEST,Jeep Man 18 Nov 03 - 09:24 PM
GUEST,Jeep Man 18 Nov 03 - 09:26 PM
Amos 18 Nov 03 - 09:35 PM
Peace 18 Nov 03 - 11:22 PM
Alaska Mike 19 Nov 03 - 11:57 AM
Amos 19 Nov 03 - 12:02 PM
Mooh 19 Nov 03 - 12:30 PM
Murray MacLeod 20 Nov 03 - 03:09 AM
s&r 20 Nov 03 - 05:45 AM
Mooh 20 Nov 03 - 09:47 AM
Joe Offer 20 Nov 03 - 07:49 PM
s&r 21 Nov 03 - 05:52 AM
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Subject: Using capo
From: GUEST,Jeep Man
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:14 PM

If I capo my guitar on the 3rd fret and play in the E A B7 chord positions, what are the true chords I am playing? Jeep


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Amos
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:15 PM

Work it out -- E+ 1/2 tone = F, + 1 tone =G. So you're playing G-C-D.

A


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Cluin
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:22 PM

When you play the E chord (and the A chord), the same notes are fretted as with the G bar chord (and the C bar chord).... with the capo instead of the barred first finger on the 3rd fret.


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: GUEST,Jeep Man
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:24 PM

Thanks, Amos. Jim


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: GUEST,Jeep Man
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:26 PM

Thanks Cluin. Someday I'll learn. Jim


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Amos
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 09:35 PM

Jeepster:

I find it helps to understand two basics. One is that the scale of C is all natural (no tricky sharps or flats, or all white keys on the piano). The other is that no matter what the key the scale is going tohave the same intervals.

The major scale counting in half-notes (one fret = one half-note) goes:

       2-2-1-2-2-2-1 which in the key of C means
   C   D-E-F-G-A-B-C.

If you're running up the E string you get the notes of the major E scale by going up   the same number of frets each step:
       2-2-1-2-2-2-1
E      F#-G#-A-B-C#-D#-E

In the key of A (running up the A string) you use the same intervals and get the notes of the A scale:

       2-2-1-2-2-2-1
A      B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A

You can figure the notes of the whole fret-board out using these datums.

Amos


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Peace
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 11:22 PM

Jeepman:

Look at the note of your bass string. The notes from the nut toward the body of the guitar are E, F, F# or Gb, G, G# or Ab, A, A# or Bb, B, C, C# or Db, D, D# or Eb, E. (I've left out double #s and double bs. If you are playing in the E position, whatever note your bass string is, is also the chord you are playing and the key you're playing in.


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 11:57 AM

If I capo up on the 4th fret and play a C, F & G7 chords, can any bluegrass fiddle players join in to ruin my solo?


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Amos
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 12:02 PM

Only if he knows how to play in E, Mike. :>)


A


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Mooh
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 12:30 PM

A minor correction to the original question, the E, A, and B7 become G, C, and D7 respectively. Capoing only changes the pitch of the chord (ie E to G) but not the major, minor, 7ths etc.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:09 AM

Don't quite follow that last posting, Mooh ....


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: s&r
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 05:45 AM

I produced a chart and sent it to Joe Offer in the hope he can add it to the thread - it's beyond my technical ability. If it doesn't appear, and anyone wants a copy PM me and I'll email the file to you

Stu


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Mooh
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 09:47 AM

Murray...Sorry to muddle things. All I mean to say is that capoing changes the root, not whether the chord is minor, 7th or whatever. E, A, and B7 in the original posted example becomes G, C, and D7 (not D as suggested earlier). That's all.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 07:49 PM

I couldn't get Stu's chart to post right, but Pene Azul (Jeff) has made it available here: here (click). It's just a bit too complet to convert to an HTML table that will work easily in a Mudcat message.
Thanks, Stu and Jeff.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: s&r
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 05:52 AM

Thanks Joe and Jeff - I knew someone would have the technology

stu


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Subject: RE: Using capo
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 09:46 AM

I don't know what technology that might be, Joe and Jeff, but it crashed my brand new Dell hard and fast. Locked right up, couldn't even use the task manager to get that sucker to stop whatever it was trying to do. Had to resort to holding down the "on" button. You might want to check out whatever that link is, or give a little information about what to expect. Just what exactly is "downloading?"

SRS


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