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Subject: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 10:24 PM


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 04:55 AM

Is there more than one? They all sound the same!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Alio
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 08:24 AM

Shame on you Guest! Are you too ashamed of what you're writing to add your name to the message? Come on now, Kate's done quite a good job of bringing folk music and songs to the attention of younger people - even my son has heard of her!!

Ali


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Nynia
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 09:39 AM

Any song from "Kate Rusby & Kathryn Roberts" (Pure Records PRCD01) providing its sung by Kathryn. I agree with Guest, Kate is extremely over-rated.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 11:35 AM

Me and Srawb---s saw Kate and band at Wetherby and it was grand. Who cannot love 'Cruel'?

HarriWatts band love Kate Rusby ( Don't tell John Mac!).

Many artists are over-rated. She isn't and wouldn'd care anyway as it's obvious how much she loves playing, singing and performing to an audience. She's in this game for fun so there! However, she didn't sent us an Xmas card but she's easily forgiven.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Ed.
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 12:34 PM

My Young Man
Wild Goose (particularly the live version on the 'Cowsong' single)
Pretty much everything off 'Hourglass'

I'm a huge fan of her earlier work, but do slightly agree with GUEST in that some of her recent stuff is getting a bit 'samey'


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Santa
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 01:42 PM

Recruited Collier


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Ed.
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 02:06 PM

Oh, what's the matter with you me lass
And where's your dashing Jimmy?


Good choice, Santa!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 06:21 PM

Ned on te hill


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Greycap
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 08:09 AM

None, 'Guest' is right, they all sound the same


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: s6k
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 08:04 PM

Our town.

Nice spelling as always j0hn !


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 02:08 AM

Sally (Sally pride of our alley). Oh no that's Gracie Fields.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 06:48 AM

I've always enjoyed Kate Rusby songs and I can't agree that she is overrated, although it is a critisism which could be leveled at many performers. As to her songs, I've always loved "The Recruited Collier".


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 06:50 AM

"I Touch Myself"


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Sooz
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 07:13 AM

Hey Ed, I was on the front row when the live version of Wild Goose on Cowsong was recorded! Claim to fame?
Kate's songs do tend to be samey and rather "pink" but she has done a great job over the last few years and doesn't deserve the knocking she's had recently.
My personal favourite is "Old Man Time"


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 07:39 AM


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 07:54 AM

I `ad that Mike `arding in my cab the other night. `e knows I am folk singer and `e said, what`s your favourite Kate Rusby song? I said "Twas on the Good Ship Venus". `E said for gawd sake , READ MY LIPS!!
What am I like?


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 08:28 AM

I courted a Sailor

which sounds very different from "Cruel" or "The Goodman"

In a long set though, Kate's range is fairly static. I personally think she should allow John and Andy to let rip a bit more often


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Pied Piper
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 10:28 AM

I liked her version of "Anarchy In The UK" particularly the toilet flush intro, but I don't think she does it anymore.

PP


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Van
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 10:39 AM

Falling - and I agree with Sooz she doesn't merit the criticism thrown at her. Music is to be enjoyed. If she brings a new audience to folk so much the better.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 10:55 AM

Old Man Time.

She's gorgeous. How can anybody not be infected by her? Or is that affected?

We all sound a bit samey, but Kate is wonderful.

So there.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Mdtparty
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 03:29 PM

The Sleepless Sailor    My girls sing it round the house all the time


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 05:59 PM

Wivvered and Dyed.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 06:19 PM

What a bunch of big fat sneers. Do I scent jealousy here?

I like the one with the chorus "runs all away, me boys, runs all away", and Maid of Llanwellyn, and the dashing Jimmy one; they're all from Ten. I'm just getting into Little Lights now.

She doesn't get to you straightaway, but when she does, she's haunting.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Matt_R
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 07:24 PM

Fairest of All Yarrow
Old Man Time
The Wild Goose
Cowsong


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,gigix
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 02:32 PM

I fell in love with her recordings some time ago. Then I realized, yes, they all sound "samey". (English is not my mothertongue. Taking part at forums is a way to learn new words. "Samey" sounds great.)
But she is often accompanied by the best guitarist I know (Ian Carr); maybe she does not reach the heights of Niamh Parsons (whom I desperately love) but she is an excellent singer anyhow and has spread the folk repertoire outside the old cirles.
Huh - my favourite song? probably Our Town......


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,chinmusic
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 02:46 PM

I have two favourities. They are The Wild Goose and Botany Bay. By the way, Black Walnut does a smashing job on Botany Bay. I ask her to sing it way too often, but she's a good sport about it.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Ed.
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 06:18 PM

What a bunch of big fat sneers. Do I scent jealousy here?

Scent whatever you like. I was just giving an honest opition...

You have good taste, Matt R!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,DT
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 06:01 AM

I know this is an old thread, but to all those that say her songs are samey...that's the nature of the beast - all folk music sounds samey......so what...it's still nice to listen too!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: muppitz
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 08:07 AM

Kate's version of Drowned Lovers is currently top of my list, I grew up listening to Nick Jones and I love the variation between the two arrangements.
And on the Kate & Kathryn album, Exile is my very favourite (I've let my grammer slip a little there!).

But I have to agree, some of her stuff sounds the same.
Still love her though, she's out there and she's doing it, much respect!

Muppitz x


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: van lingle
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 09:10 AM

I've read a few critics in the music press that have leveled the sameness judgment at her recordings but,Christ, when you're as good as she is is that such a bad thing? Besides, the variety and originality of her delivery and the accompaniments to the material is truly striking . I guess they want to see her dancing around at the Super Bowl exposing her solar nipple ring next.
My current favorite is the one about the blind harper who steals the King's brown. All time is probably As I Roved Out.vl


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 09:18 AM

I'll have to add my name to those who think she is over-rated, Obviously Mike Harding disagrees with me because she seems to have air play every week on his show, does he have shares in the record company I wonder ........ me cynical, perish the thought
I wonder why someone like Sharon Fountain who to my mind can really put a song across is never given the same (or any) coverage or even Marie Little who is a contemporary of MH from their early days in the folk clubs of Salford and Manchester


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Clara
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 12:20 PM

Has to be 'i wonder what is keeping my true love tonite', closely followed by the Recruited Collier and Old Man time. Also still love Radio Sweethearts.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 02:31 PM

The Wild Goose and Botany Bay are two of my favourites, too, Chinmusic!!! Also.... The Sleepless Sailor, Cowsong, Who Will Sing Me Lullabies, Bold Riley, and, oh, all the rest of them.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Bloke in the Corner
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 06:12 PM

'Fraid I have to agree with Mr Tash on the sameness of her material. She HAS done good, she's got traditional music onto a wider stage, so more power to her... suppose it comes down to the fact that English traditional music just isn't as good as Irish or Scottish. Perhaps it's English folk which is samey, not just Kate Rusby.
Controversial? Moi?
No, I really do believe it. The best toons & songs come from our Celtic brethren.
And don't ANYBODY tell me how good the Watersons are. I hear better singers and musicians than them (Martin Carthy partially excepted) at damn near every session I go to.
Over to you lot...


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,DT
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 06:07 AM

Sorry but I don't know how to post New Topics to this site. Anyone know what make and type of guitar Kate uses?


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: s6k
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:46 AM

our town or underneath the stars


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Clara
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 11:30 AM

Her guitar's made by Pete Barton


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Chris Green
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 11:47 AM

The Unquiet Grave. And yes, although her stuff is getting a tad samey, why mess with a winning formula? You might as well accuse Vin Garbutt of being samey becuase he consistently writes thought-provoking songs and makes audiences wet themselves with laughter with the same stories time and time again!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:01 PM

My favourite song is 'Ace of spades'.... oh..... sorry, wrong thread!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 04:25 AM

Pete Barton has a web site.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 04:49 PM

jOhn9 are you kin to this bloke? ...

Seriously I understand he's a very good guitar player and his new CD has some country and bluegrass mixed in with the debbil's tunes he's otherwise known for .....


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Zhenya
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 05:05 PM

I really like her singing and particularly the Hourglass album. I've seen her in concert and she's a great performer too.

The one thing I don't quite understand (probably related to the "They all sound the same" comment is why she "flattens out" (my term) the melodies of well-known songs. At any rate, she changes them a bit here and there, not for the better in my opinion. The melodies seem to lose their most appealing (sometimes modal I guess) qualities and just sound very bland. I think this is the problem more than her singing. And she has a beautiful voice and it doesn't seem that the normal range of these songs would present a problem to her. And she certainly has a strong background in traditional music and would be familiar with these types of traditional melodies. Not sure why she does it, but it's the one thing that really detracts from her music for me.


Well, that being said, some favorites are The Maid of LLanwellyn (done with the Poozies), Wild Goose, As I Roved out, Annan Waters, and Bold Riley.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 09:05 AM

Mmmm ... lot of discussion and adulation re Kate Rusby. Nice sound; very simple but seductive double drop D tuning; top notch backing etc but you should go to the source of Kate's inspiration (I suspect anyhow) and listen to the "real deal" here - Sharon Fountain.

If, like me, you prefer your trad-folk female vocalists to be non-saccharin and samey, and you want guitar playing and singing with genuine grab you by collar "grit" and "punch" - then check out Sharon. She's also fom Barnsley (where Kate as a young lass no doubt saw her and thought - "I must try that style"), obviously older (and yes, dare I say it, much more experienced).

See her at one of her gigs - it'll cost you less than a fiver (most probably nowt at all), you'll actually be able to sit close and even talk to her during the interval. She'll be very embarrassed if you ask her for an autograph though.

Seriously - look her up, and listen/get wise


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 09:08 AM

Erratum.......... Non-samey!


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Deano
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 09:33 AM

Kate Rusby - now there's a fine young up n' coming singer. With a little more practice she'll take a notch up to intermediate level guitarist too.
Who's Sharon Fountain folks? - Is she worth "looking up"?


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 04:38 PM

Watch her DVD and be amazed.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Deano
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 11:06 AM

Who's DVD? - Kate Rusby or Sharon Fountain?


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Sooz
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 11:18 AM

Perhaps we should start a new thread about Sharon Fountain! She is a great singer and guitarist and has the added bonus of scaring many of my male friends to death.
Sharon is a teacher from Barnsley who sings traditional, excellent self-penned and contemporary material. Check out her version of Jethro Tulls "Heavy Horses!"


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,michael imbrium
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM

god - it's hard to pick just one, isn't it?
so, i'll cheat!!

traditional song she's recorded: "the white cockade"
song she's written: "underneath the stars"

both of the those song lyrics can bring me to tears...esp. the sorrow in her voice as she sings them.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: MurkeyChris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 08:05 PM

I think she's fantastic, but do agree that she needs to start playing with the formula now. Her most varied album was probably debut Hourglass which featured her sparse version of 'I am stretched on your grave'. Creepy brilliance!

Chris


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Subject: RE: what's your favourite Kate Rusby song9
From: Chris/Darwin
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:09 AM

Kate's good, no doubt. At her best, she is up there with the very best. My favourite song is one of hers - Let the Cold Wind Blow, which does it for me every time. But there are many other good ones.

Her versions of many trad songs are a little bland for me at times, but then, there are very few albums I know where every song is a humdinger.

Regards
Chris


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: breezy
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:25 AM

is Jethro T's Heavy Horses anyting like Robin Laing's


Kathryn Robs is performing in St Albans on Friday 5th Nov at the Duke of Marlborough at the famous 'Windward' Folk-song club

All front row chairs have been reserved.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,elphaba_lives
Date: 28 Mar 09 - 02:12 PM

so hard to choose!!!

I love Cobblers Daughter...and Awkward annie...and Planets actually. Oooh and Cowsong!
But i think it is Underneath the Stars that wins for me...


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,Sweetyodelangel
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 01:42 AM

This thread seems ancient, and there probably isn't much point commenting in a 2004 thread, but I will anyway!!!

My favourite is Merry Green broom, and also The wild goose.
Kate has such a beautiful voice!!! =)


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: Mo the caller
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 04:54 AM

I've not read through all the thread but heard her sing "While Shepherds" to the Ilkley Moor tune and I thought it sounded very thin without the other singers echoing the chorus. I think it was on Radio Shetland there was some really good stuff on with it including a track from Albireo (not sure if the Listen Again still works)


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: EllenV
Date: 23 Jan 12 - 06:15 PM

Love her version of "Here We Come A-Wassailing". It's fabulous.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jan 12 - 10:27 AM

To those that dislike her: If any of the X Factor/Kareoke TV wannabe "acts" had an ounce of Kate's talent, then they would deserve some their unfounded attention. What's wrong with liking someone who's truly talented, has their own family based record label, and appears to be a nice person? So what if some songs are similar? It's called having a style! But it's your choice as to what you like.

Last year, the wife and I travelled from Nova Scotia to Montreal to see her show (rare Canadian appearance). Only a slight disappointment that she didn't have the full band. If we could see her more often I definately would.

By the way, "Drowned Lovers" (live version) is great. And "Who Will Sing me Lullabies" and "Falling" are top notch as well.


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Subject: RE: wahts your favourite KAte rusby song9
From: GUEST,A Yank
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 08:00 AM

First impressions from listening to Hourglass:

Nice voice. But it seems lacking in emotion and kind of bland. And what the instruments are doing meshes poorly with the vocal melodies, which she tends to flatten out and blandify (as another poster pointed out).

Compare her version of "Lowlands of Holland" with the versions by Martin Carthy or Steeleye Span. In those versions, what the instruments are doing meshes well with the vocal melody, unlike in the KR version where they actually clash at times. And the vocalists sing with great feeling, which makes sense since its about someone's inconsolable grief at the loss of her love. KR by contrast sounds like she's on valium.

Maybe she'll grow on me. But thats my first impression


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