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Bobert 01 Jan 04 - 08:15 PM
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Subject: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 08:15 PM

Well danged if this ain't somethin'...

Johnny Ashcroft has had to recluse himself from the investigation on just who in the White House fingered Valerie Plame, the wife of Joseph Wilson who countered Bush's claims that Iraq was trying to secre uranium form Niger...

Hmmmmm? Why the recusal, one might ask? Well, the way I see it is that Johnny has discovered somethin' that he'd rather not talk about. If this ain't it then why didn't he recuse himself a while back before the Justice Department started the investigation?

Peeeeuuuuwwwww. What's that smell? Hmmmmmm, smells like someone in the White House been doing some heavy swaetin', to me...

But, not to worry, the investigation has been passed from one "tag victim" to another and everything that Johnny knows will have to be *re*discovered and that won't happen before the '04 Election Debackle so the King is secure....

But I don't think I'd want to be in Karl Rove's shoes around this time next year...

Unless, of course, King George just *officially* calls off democracy, declares martial law and starts wearing a crown around the White House... which, unfortunately, is a very real possibility...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 08:32 PM

Let us all hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 11:13 PM

I wouldn't get all het up over this. The script goes like this; someone takes the fall for this, not the right person mind you, and that is the end of the story. Sad, innit?

And so it goes.

W.E.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 11:46 PM

Funny how there are always so many rogues operating around the higher echelons, getting involved in dodgy operations with nobody else ever knowing what they're up to. Who's watchin' the kids?


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 11:51 PM

First, I misread the title of this thread. Then I read that Ashcroft wants to know just who fingered Ms Plame. Gawd, that Lookin' for a Companion thread has put my mind in the gutter.

brucie


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 12:44 AM

LMAOWROTF, brucie! ANything but a cigar, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 01:07 AM

Gawd, girl, you know it! Happy New Year to you, kat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 09:53 AM

I kind agree with you, Walking Eagle, but there's always that outside chance that someone will get the story mixed up and then the entire thing could crumble. The Bush folks would like to run out the clock on this one and get thru the '04 Selection. Actually, they're doing a darned good job of running out the clock on lots of issues. Problem is that what they have achieved is a house of cards and they are more vulnerable than most folks think. If the American people sniff one tiny lie then the big ones come closer into focus...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 12:25 PM

I hope so Bobert, Jeezus I really, Really do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: beadie
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 03:58 PM

The wild card in all of this, Bobert, is the fact that the Dems have rarely been up to maintaining a consistent pressure for justice in situations such as this.

Hell, they even had to enlist Repub help before they were able to get Nixon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 05:10 PM

Am I mis-remembering? I thought that Karl Rove had served as a political consultant on John Ashcroft's failed U.S. Senate campaign. If that's right, there's little Ashcroft could do but recluse himself. No mystery there.

However, it is surprising and delightful to me that the investigation is moving up to a higher level and I hope that Rove gets skewered!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 06:07 PM

Charley,

The oddball part of the story is that Ashcroft didn't recuse himself until now rather than a couple of months ago. Hmmmmmmm? Know what I mean?

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: DougR
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 06:19 PM

Right, Bobert. It's a vast right-wing conspiricy! Sometimes you are so funny.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Tweed
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 07:06 PM

Well if he wants to recluze hizzelf and grow hiz harr and fingernails long like Howard Hughes I am unable to find a reason for him not to do that Boberdzz. Reclussez iz got a place in this worl and ef they cain't get along wif peeple than it's better ef they stay clar obv them altopongah. And I habv allus sed that Karl Rove iz a smart persons smart person. I mean hellfire, who elbvse culd masticate gettin' a haifwit electred into the danged White House obv this great nashun? Hmmm...???? Who ailse culd scar the crap outta the democrates into not knowin' whut the hail they even stand fer anymore? Karl Rove thet's who! He iz one smart sumbitch that one iz!
Yerz,
Tweedzrzz
P.S. Hey Doug. Hope all iz wall in yore area and I reckon we will be eatin' a shitload obv crow agin next November. Happy New Year everbody!! ;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 07:15 PM

Well danged, Tweezer! Glad to see that ya' got that Correxpondence Spellin' Course giff Certifercate I sent ya fir Chirstmas... Yer coming 'long real good... Grammer is still crappy tho... Gotta get yer tenses up to par...

As fir Mr. Rove, I never siad he weren't no smart person. Just a crook... Ya' don't have to be dumb to be a crook. President? Hmmmmmm? Different story. Now acterally, Bush ain't dumb. No, he ain't smart either.... Kinda average... Now evil? That's a different story...

Boberdzz


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 07:49 PM

"Recluse" is a noun isn't it, not a verb? It means someone who avoids contact with other people and stays indoors as much as possible. I don't think that it is correct to say that someone is "reclusing" himself, although I certainly get the drift of what you mean in a general sense.

It is hardly necessary to form a vast conspiracy...all one needs is a fairly large number of people in powerful places who share a common philosophy, and certain results will inevitably follow. For instance, suppose one's philosophy was:

1. making more money is the main point of life
2. having more of material things is always better
3. he who makes the most money can have the most material things
4. no amount of anything can ever be too much
5. if other people have way less than you do, it means they are losers who don't count anyway...screw 'em!

Now, given such a philosophy one hardly needs a conspiracy in order to cut down every forest, pollute every watershed, corrupt every political and legal system, and finally accomplish a revolution, a war or a general financial and social collapse....or all of those.

After which one starts over again, if one is still alive. Destructive philosophies beget destructive results.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 10:09 PM

Well, Little Hawk, a well written piece indeed and , as per usual, I find myself in total agreement with yer observations and philosophy...

But did I say "reclues" 'er "reduse"? Now, I don't remember but if I said "reluse", I meant '"recuse" which is similar but a legalistic term fir, ahhh, steppin' aside...

That's why I find it strange that Johnny Ashcrof would "recuse" himself after a couple of months of having knowledge of what the Justice Department has found. He's is hired by the very folks who don't particualrlly want to be cought with their hands in the cookie jar if there is any way in Hell to pin it on someone else...

I will have to give the guy some credit for recognizing that if he were to stay involved that there was gonna be some conflict of interest, seein' as he has most probably found that the leak came from deep within the Bush White House (his bosses)...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 11:23 PM

Call the Plumbers! Sorry, couldn't resist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 11:34 PM

LOL, Walkin' Eagle...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: LadyJean
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 11:36 PM

I would so like to see little Johnny Ashcroft hung out to dry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Tweed
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:32 AM

Liddle Hargue you air correck in thet "reclues" is a noun. In fack a buddy obv mine got bit on his lag by a brown relucse and the doctor like to took off haif ob his calf gettin' the poison out ob it! They ar feisty creatures at best, and don't mess around much at all.

Lady Jean, I wuld so like to see Karl Rove stuck in one o' them glass crates full ob reculse spiders, (like on thet TV show whar they eat worms and so forth)and see how he wuld organise thet mess. He's purdy smart but I bet they would git the best ob him before long. Now that would be some good prime time TeeVee!


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:44 PM

Yup, real,gud REALTY tee vee!


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:09 PM

"The truth will out" so, stand by for a ram!

woop, woop woop (collision alarm)


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: DougR
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:55 PM

Tweed: I've been told that Crow Pie is not half bad! It's an old West Virginia delicacy I believe. :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:21 PM

Well, Tweezer, I think you mitta be on to somethin' there, buddy. Don't mind Dougie none... He's jus' cranky 'cause the Ms. Cindy read one of his knothead posts and has locktercated his sorry butt out of the bedroom and this is his 2nd day on the couch...

Butdon't worry none 'bout Karl. Unless Bush's guys can pull off the cover-up of all time, there will come a day when the cage full o' spyders will look good to the boy...

Boberdzz

BTW, Doug, I shot two crows this mornin' and put 'em in the freezer fir ya fir later...


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:54 PM

Little, ...that was a gem! Thanks for the New Year's clear!


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Cluin
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:11 PM

Doug, I know a lady who grew up in the bush with her trapper family. She says she has eaten the meat of just about every kind of animal and the only one she couldn't stomach was crow.

I figured that's why the expression "eat crow" came about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Tweed
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 09:59 AM

During these unsartin times I habv hunted an found a few good receppts fer finger lickin' good crow. Thar is no shortage of the beasts so thar is no excuse fer anyone to go around hungry.



Crow Creole

Ingredients
2 medium onions
2 fresh chilies chopped
2 ribs celery
3 cloves garlic minced
¼ pound butter
16oz. chicken broth
1 can whole tomatoes
1 small can tomato paste
8oz. ketchup
1/8 teaspoon white pepper
1/2 tablespoon Cajun seasoning
1 tablespoons hot pepper sauce
1/2 tablespoons garlic sauce
1/4 tablespoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon Tabasco sauce
1/2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/8 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 teaspoon chopped fresh thyme
1 tablespoon fresh squeezed lemon juice
1 pound (12 pieces, or so) crow breast chopped into bite-sized pieces
Preparation
Brown the crow breasts in a skillet with butter or oil. When browned, place them in a Sauté onion, celery, chilies and garlic in butter until tender. Add the above ingredients and all of the remaining ingredients to a crock pot and cook on low for 6-7 hours.

To serve, heap about 1 cup of rice in the center of the plate, and ladle a generous amount of the sauce around it. Garnish with fresh chopped parsley.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Peace
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 10:35 AM

The recipe above reminds me of my grandmother's cure for the cold, flu, pneumonia, ague, corns, boils, headache, stomach upset, etc.

Take a pint of rum and marinate a single clove in the bottle for exactly 17 seconds. Strain, and drink the broth.


Tweed: Looks delicious. How's it taste?


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 06:08 PM

Looks more like a recipe for Stone Soup. Just leave out the crow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 06:51 PM

Did I tell Doug that I had two crows fir him? Well, I must miscounted 'cause it's only one crow. Sorry, Doug...

Let's see, 2 teaspoons equal 1 tablespoons, 2 pints in a quart, 3 pecks in a...........

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 07:27 PM

Is there any evidence that ordinary voters anywhere take much notice of evidence that some politician or public servant has been caught lying or cheating or stealing?

After all, if you start from the assumption that those kinds of things are what they mostly do all the time anyway, which many people do, all that scandals do is demonstrate that some of them aren't as good at getting away with it as others. It could even be suggested that getting caught might sometimes indicate the people concerned are a bit less practised at it than the others, and maybe even less of a crook...


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 10:59 PM

Derivation:The expression's origins are American, from imagery and folklore                from the late 19th century. Crow would have been regarded as a rather                distasteful dish, much like the original English Umble Pie metaphor from the                1700's (see Eat Humble Pie below). According to etymologist James Rogers,                eating crow became the subject of a story reported in the Atlanta Constitution                in 1888, which told the tale of an American soldier in the War of 1812, who                shot a crow during a ceasefire. A British officer complimented the soldier on                his shooting and asked to see the gun, which when handed to him, he turned on                the soldier, reprimanding him for trespassing, and forcing the soldier to eat a                piece of the dead crow. However, on having the gun returned to him, the soldier                promptly turned the weapon on the officer, and made him eat the rest of the                crow.

Or so ' tis said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 11:23 PM

Not really, McGrath...

There are three groups of voters. The first is the Repub. base. The second is the Dem. base. And the third is the swing voters who don't make their minds up until about a week or two before the elections. And, unfortunately, the bulk of them just want to vote for a winner!

"Hmmmm, this guy Adolf seems to be leading in the polls so I'll just vote fir him...."

Friggin' sheeep...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 06:25 PM

And by far the biggest set of voters are the ones who don't vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Peace
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 07:18 PM

Ya only have to sway about 20% of the voting population. Democrats take their committed 40% as do the Republicans. They are the committed 80%. Sway a majority of the other 20% (the uncommitted) and guess who wins.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 07:23 PM

Unfortunately, brucie, the candidate who had the most money to spend.

It's just a big PR event.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: kendall
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 09:44 AM

McGrath, most people don't really care unless a blow job is involved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 10:08 AM

Interesting, Kendall. You see how the press is lettin' this story just sink deeper and deeper inside the paper? And then opne day, it will be as if nothing happened at all and no one will care except a few of us who do, ahhhhh, actually care about the way our government is run...

Man, if this had been Slick Willie, this story would not only page front and center but the right wing would would be frothing at the mouth for hos impeachment.

My, my, how times do change?

Now, I'll just throw a little theory into the mix ofwhy the American people don't give a danged. They're scared to death that if they rock the boat that Boss Hog is gonna snatch their job away and with a SUV in the driveway (unpaid for), 2.3 kids, a $1500 month month motgage, maxed out crdit cards, they're either too danged busy to care or if they have a clue, they'te gonna keep it safe down in their tummy.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Snitch-Gate Heatin' Up, Mr. Rove....
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 10:31 AM

kendall: Bill Clinton would agree with you.


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