BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital

Subject: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 06:20 PM

Breaking with tradition, the Bush administration has decided that it doesn't want to pay for its big PR show: the innaguration!

Yup, the DC Government, already straped for cash, has been ordered by the US Government (Bush) to pay for the $12M that it cost to hold an innaguartion in DC.

Not only that but if unlike previous innagurations the Homeland Security folks have made no bones about not letting anyone near the parade route who might show their displeasure, by holding up signs, with the Bushite thugs...

Like I've said all along. This batch is a gang of thievin', liein' crooks...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Amos
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 09:09 PM

This is so arrogant it is enough to make me wish the Union had lost the damn war.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 09:31 PM

They did, Amos...

Just look around ya'... Southern Man rammin' his bigoted, racist, arrogant crap down the throats of anyone with more than an associates degree in tobacco chewin'...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 09:34 PM

They spent 1¼ billion GETTING him elected, of course they can't afford to pay for the ceremony! Let the LOCAL taxpayers foot the bill....they can be rewarded by being allowed to stand in line in the cold after passing thru security designed to keep out riff-raff and watch him mouth the words that usher in 4 more years of more arrogance.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Kaleea
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 09:45 PM

And to think that they called Clinton "Bubba."
Dateline D.C. (about 2 years ago): The National Intruder reported today that a source near the oval office overheard the following. "Yeppers, ah'z gittin' mahtee tarred uv thez hyar trubblez wif them thar yahoos in Eye-rak! Git me them thar cheefs 'o staff on thet thar bat phone! Let's nuke it n' pave it!"
    Dateline D.C. (early fall '04): The National Intruder repported today that a source near the oval office who prefers to be unnamed reported hearing the following.   "Don't give me that *^$#$%@+!!! about the @#$%^&* rights of the people!!!!! Yew git them thar dirty commie pinko antichristian @#$%^&*(+'s outta the crowd 'n yew keep 'em out-no matter whut it takes. I run the whole @#$%^&*(+ world 'n ah'll be #$%^&ed if I'ze a gonna let them thar #$%^&s be seen on nashhull TeeVee a runnin' me down!"

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:00 PM

Hmmmmm? My how times change? But sho nuff encouragin' to know that we got a "moral" gang gettin' ready to be innagurated... Gives me a big ol' warm and fuzzy feelin' all over...

Beam me up quick before they rob me, too...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Barry Finn
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:09 PM

Do the DC folk even get to have a vote about this or maybe even just a little bit of a say? DUH,NO WAY.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:13 PM

So what else is new? Ronnie Reagan cost the country a bundle for his inagurations; he managed to pass it off by simply saying that the country wasn't paying for them -- i.e., by lying about it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:13 PM

Sour Grapes!

And a lot of clucking by the Mudcat pink hens.

Hope they have a great party.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:14 PM

DC is nuthin' more than a colony and therefore must just collectivrly say, "Yes, Massa" and pay up...

Tell ya' how bad it is, Barry. The DC governemnt is under such scutiny that everything they do can be undone by the Republican controled "Control Board"...

On the big totam poll, this make DC under Iraq....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 10:32 PM

Ain't about winners of loosers, Martin...

Would you like to pay for Bush's $17M circle jerk?

Yes or no (not both) will do just fine....

(BTW, a thoughfull response, as opposed to the *usual*, would be nice... though not in your case ever expected...)

(And BTW, Part B. What if Clinton had done this?)

Awwwww, nevermind. You ain't up to this task...

Bobert








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Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: DougR
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 11:11 PM

Uh, Bobert, were I you, I would protest by not attending.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 11:29 PM

I was gonna try to attend, Dougie, and camp out on the parade route with a sign that reads "CROOK" but then I've been hearing that the Bush folks, at the expense of the DC residents, who are not represented though taxed, are ****ordered***** to spend the money of the DC residents, who are taxed but not represnted, to make sure that Bush and his folks have themselves big ol' happy *circle jerk* of an inaguration....

Hope you enjoy it but remember who is paying the bill... Hard working DC residents who have no representation... yet like you have to pay federal taxes...

Like I said, what a crock!

Bobert

p.s. I'd like to hear your defense of this , Dougie...

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 11:51 PM

Can they really force the DC government to pay for the inauguration? On what basis?

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:10 AM

Hey, what are you moaning about? I understand that DC was chosen as a more acceptable proposal over the initial suggestion that Baghdad should be the one to pay - on the basis that it "caused" GWB's re-elecyion...

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:33 AM

To summarize the Oberman CNN report...
The mayor of DC was told he could take some of the money DC needs from the Homeland Security slush fund. In other words DC will get paid with national taxpayer $ but not enough to foot the whole bill for the Inauguration parties.

We are getting a better idea where some of the 200 billion dollars for homeland security goes. FOR PRIVATE PARTIES. as usual.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:40 AM

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:51 AM

Dang it! That was me and my "morning fingers".

Bobert, DC was created from Virginia and Maryland (as you know) to be a "Federal City," which it was originally called. It was not created from any existing state so that no existing state would have a bigger voice in national affairs than another. The early history of DC (as a city) is one of corruption -- Benjamin Bannaeker was perhaps the only honest man of the whole bunch (and someone I highly respect).

The natives of DC know this; whether or not they like it is another matter. I can't see it changing, simply because having the nation's capitol in a (theoretically) independent city is a truly Good Idea.

But neither do I think that the DC city government should be made to foot the bill alone for some of the things that go on there, and usually it doesn't. Frankly, I think that DC city government should pay for those things which any city of comparable size would have to pay for (schools, streets, cops, etc.) and the rest -- and anything stemming from the city being the Capitol -- should be paid by the Feds.

There should be a limit, too, on the amount the taxpayers spend on an inaguration -- enough for a modest ceremony and a state dinner, perhaps. The rest should come from true contributions -- contributions which are NOT deductible.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:18 AM

Here, here!! Rapaire for President!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:24 AM

This is interesting to me. Because I just read in a recent Business Week that because of a loophole, that businesses that were limited in the donations they could make to the re-election did not have the same restrictions when it came to donating to the inagural fund. So the same folks who could only give $2,000 to his campain are now giving 100,000 and more for the "victory party". Talk about the political "capital" that shub has at his disposal.

Any chance that a little of that will go to sunami relief ?

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 12:16 PM

Oh, like this is the first time a President has fleeced the people...

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 12:54 PM

Ah - Kim - We didn't like it then either.

These huge partys are silly affairs. If the President wants to reduce the tax burden on the American people he can start right here. And I felt the same way when Clinton was in office.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:12 PM

With people like Pres. Bush, or anyone who campaigns on lowering the tax burden on the US taxpayers, it is a mite hypocritical to then slap the taxpayers with a huge bill for something as non-essential as a hugely expensive inaugural extravaganza.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:20 PM

I can see a simple solution to this one. Great Britan reclaims the colonies, and saves the expense of the inaugueration, and other associated expenses of a president. Instead, an occasional coronation, and a Royal family, who make a net profit for the country. Pomp and circumstance make great tourist attractions....

Bunnahabhian

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:23 PM

On the local news we are being told by the head of HS that the same security measures that were in effect for Bush campaign rallies will be in effect for the Inauguration route.

In other words, if you can not present a signed Republican oath card to President Bush, or if you have any sign impling dissent, you will be sent to the free speech zone behind barbed wire.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:30 PM

Too much irony here: Rev. Mahoney is pissed that crosses have been banned from along the parade route, and states..."I have never heard of a cross being used as a weapon anywhere". Uh....talk to Jesus about that one.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:27 PM

Perhaps the best way to bring home the idea that the US is "at war" would be to have a low-key, thoughtful inaguration. My mother, married during WW2, wore a dark suit and my father his uniform; there was no party. The same sort of thinking should apply to this and to other such things.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:36 PM

Can anyone provide a link regarding the DC government having to supply funds for the inauguration?

I think this lavish inauguration is in poor taste, and apparently the budget is between $40 and $50 million, but I haven't seen anything about the DC taxpayers having to carry part of the burden.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:54 PM

That expense is probably already written into the US government budget, just like every other non-profit group has goofy unnecessary shit in their budgets.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:57 PM

This article, published yesterday, seems to indicate that the festivities will be paid for with donations, not with any government money:

Story here

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:05 PM

Sorry, pdc, but I don't do blue clickies, however if you go to washingtonpost.com you'll find several articles over the last week about it.

Today's articler in the Post talks about the some 100 square blocks that are going to be shut down & protected by the military (7000 US troops and 6,000 cops) for the Bush bash... The place is going to look like a war zone on the perimeters...

Be sure to catch it on TV. Talk about one big ol' white guys circle jerk. This one will bne one for the books... Oh sure, you can bet that few hundred Republican "Porch Negroes" that are being invited will get lots of camera time to make it look as if this event is multicultural but make no mistake about this one. It's going to be the a white guys and tanks get together...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 05:05 PM

And what do those donars expect for the 18 million they've donated so far. A ticket to the balls ? I don't think so.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 05:16 PM

Not to fret, Wes... All the donors will be handsomely compensated not only at the BushBash but well into the future...

And you (or they) can take that to the bank...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 06:59 PM

Well, gol danged!

Looks as if A.N.S.W.E.R. has won a court battle to have a small section at 4th and Pennsylvania Ave. to erect bleachers for about 1000 anti-war, anti-Bush folks...

That's one judge who's gonna prolly end up falling out of a boat this coming summer and drown...

But, hey, 100,000 Bushites v. 1000 of us? I still think we're getting the shaft. Just as the DC residents who are picking up between $11M and $17M of the costs...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:19 PM

This innauguration has been on my mind for many reasons---money being not the least of them.

NPR reported today that the security precautions will cost the taxpayers in the tens of millions of dollars. Granted, the GOP (Dear Grand Old Pilferers) are footing the bill for the balls---and they sure do have them by the score---balls that is. Corporations and rich donors that like gov't contacts are the donors---well, they saved it in the Bush tax cuts---balls again. A free ball for the military members---who's balls are being shot off. Sorry=there are women in the troops--but I could not think of a good there.

In a more serious vein then. the lies that embroiled us in this conflict, given the reversals we are suffering, given the natural disasters around our planet, and given the scandals that surround this administration would not a more humble and less arrogant persona and innauguration for a fumbling barely elected public speaker have spoken more eloquently for this nation than the imitation of a coronation of Louis XIV. Oh---let them eat cake---if they can afford it after this administration's blunders.

One last thought---CBS fires people for not doing their job properly. The Bush administration gives theirs medals of freedom. So much for integrity, honesty and brains in the vacuous people in power---and loving every minute of it.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:26 PM

Ah hem... lets not forget those "moral values', Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:54 PM

Ooops---left out the "morality" of the Bushies and their leader who is thinking that he is the second coming. Their moral stances always amaze me---gray is not in their color spectrum

Just having heard an interview with Sister Prejean re: Death Penalty and her confrontation with Justice(?)Scalia you have to wonder what these people are thinking. Her new book presents the facts of the innocence of the person that Scalia (among others) denied a new trial.

The only saving grace is that so far the vision of the founding fathers has not been totally obliterated.

I enjoyed the last quote---that the good nun finished for the interviewer---"...the last administration that had an intelligent dinner conversation was when Thomas Jefferson dined alone". I paraphrased a bit there.   If you can get to the NPR website you can hear her interview---and her last part describing the execution of someone that was retarded and had been sent to the room before (and afraid of needles) is heartbreaking.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:11 PM

Texas is well known fir it's executiona and they are mighty proud of it, gol dangit...

The US Attorney General appointee, Mr Gonzalez, knows all about what goes on down Texas way. I heard part of his testimony on C-Span rafdio the other day and found it sickening.

When asked about a certain death row inmate's appeal that his court appointed defense attorney slept thru much of the trial, he dismissed it saying that he didn't know anything about that case!!! Now he wants to be Attorney General??? Unbelievable. Poor black kid gets rounded up, cohearsed into a confession, court appointed attorney botches his defense and now he's dead and Mr. Gonzalez says he doesn't know anything about it??? Doesn't instill trust that this guy isn't gonna fall asleeep at the wheel should ne be confirmed...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:19 PM

Bobert: "Coerced". Anyway---the saddest and lamest excuse for the disaster (not unusual for the Lones Star State---and what they still percieve as the wild west) was the attorney said he fegned that to give grounds for appeal. That should be an episode on Law & Order (if it was not already).

You know--I might like to get a law degree now. Fall asleep--charge 400.00 / hr and say it was a brilliant defense move. My naps now garner me nothing.


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:42 PM

Thanks, Bill... You have my permission to just follow me around as an interpreter, coma adder 'er subtracter, spellchecker and dangling participler....

And I'll sleep fir less. $200.00 and hour? Okay, $100.00 an hour? okay, gol dangit, give me the $7.00 an hour I could make at Walmart...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:57 PM

And it's just so nice that Laura can get an Ice blue and silver gown to wear once from Oscar de la Renta when lots of Americans can't even put food on the table.....CROCK!

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:16 PM

Ahhhh, let 'um eat cake, gol dang it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: LadyJean
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:05 AM

I got a list of the inauguration's corporate sponsers from five different sources tonight. So not all the money for this extravaganza is coming from D.C. city government. Of course the money spent would do a lot for all the Tsunami victims in Asia. And the corporate donors will save on taxes, which means the rest of us will have to pay more.
I understand Kid Rock will be featured. I wonder what Pat Robertso thinks of that.
Jefferson rode to his innauguration on a white horse. He must have looked pretty damn good. Oh how I wish Bush would ride a horse to his innauguration, because any reasonable horse would throw him as soon as he got an opportunity.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 09:14 AM

I dunno about Pat Robertson, but I did get a forwarded thing from the American Family Association. Here's the latest from them:

Last week I learned that Kid Rock will perform at the Youth Concert at the Presidential Inauguration. Kid Rock represents everything that Values Voters voted against in the last election. For information on Kid Rock, click here.

We asked a few of our supporters to call the Presidential Inauguration Committee (PIC) and ask that Kid Rock be uninvited. We were hoping that this situation would be resolved without becoming a major issue. Those who called were told that what AFA had said about Kid Rock performing was only an Internet rumor, that AFA did not know what we were talking about and that AFA was not telling the truth.

Elisabeth Bumiller, writing in the January 3 edition of the New York Times, confirmed that Kid Rock would perform. She wrote: "The Bush twins, Jenna and Barbara, will be hosts of the youth concert, where the teenage singer JoJo will appear along with Kid Rock." An article in WorldNetDaily also confirmed Kid Rock's appearance.

I called PIC once on Thursday and three times on Friday and asked to speak with Mr. Greg Jenkins, Executive Director of PIC. Each time I was told that he was busy. I left messages for Mr. Jenkins to please return my calls. He did not. I contacted a U.S. Senator's high-level staff person who did speak with Mr. Jenkins and asked him to please call me concerning the situation. Still, no call.

I urge you to send an email asking PIC to uninvite Kid Rock, and then forward this email to a least one friend. After you send the email, please call and ask that Kid Rock be uninvited.

Emphasis supplied. And why should Bush cater to any particular group anymore? He's a lame duck president in a lame duck administration.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:26 PM

That makes him a lame duck's ass, which in the Fifties was a bad haircut preferred by bullies.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 04:55 PM

I don't know what a circle jerk is, but I'm not sure that I want to either...

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 05:02 PM

Of course, if Kerry won none of these bleeding hearts would be moaning when they would have ended up paying Barbara Streisand $5 million to sing at his inaugeration.

Of course, America will not be subjected to that, thank God.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 05:32 PM

Well---guess we won't know will we. One does hope, however, that the Dems would have shown more class and not had a coronation in this time of strife.   

Anyway--Kerry's wife could have picked up the tab herself--so could the Bushes. But why bother when you can get others to pay---like Donald Trump (see today's NY Times) who is getting everyone to donate their services for his wedding--for the thrill of saying they are dealing with The Donald.   Hoperfully he can find a barber to help his hair problems a bit.


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 05:59 PM

Kerry's wife could buy and sell george Bush over and over again.

Speculation is all the dems get.

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 06:45 PM

True! Bet she could find better things to buy---why pay good money for worthless objects?


Bill H

Subject: RE: BS: The Bushites Fleece the Nation's Capital
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 06:56 PM

A grand inauguration costing DC's Homeland Security allocation could be better used in repairing public schools in the DC area, and putting policeman on the street to do something useful other than intimidating protesters.Instead of 350 mill for the Tsunami victims, the money for the inauguration could be used to help those who were stricken. That's what a real humanitarian would do. 350 mill is a paltry sum compared to what other countries
are doing.

Instead of money, we send in the military. Does anyone wonder why they are being deployed in a predominantly Muslim country?

Frank