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BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet

Jerry Rasmussen 11 Nov 05 - 06:43 PM
Deckman 11 Nov 05 - 06:45 PM
number 6 11 Nov 05 - 06:50 PM
bobad 11 Nov 05 - 07:09 PM
Bobert 11 Nov 05 - 07:50 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 11 Nov 05 - 09:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Nov 05 - 09:26 PM
Little Hawk 11 Nov 05 - 09:34 PM
Azizi 11 Nov 05 - 09:40 PM
jimmyt 11 Nov 05 - 10:29 PM
Azizi 11 Nov 05 - 10:51 PM
Peter T. 12 Nov 05 - 08:05 AM
kendall 12 Nov 05 - 08:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Nov 05 - 08:22 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 12 Nov 05 - 11:50 AM
GUEST 12 Nov 05 - 11:57 AM
Little Hawk 12 Nov 05 - 12:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM
Cllr 12 Nov 05 - 12:39 PM
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Peter T. 12 Nov 05 - 05:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Nov 05 - 05:47 PM
hesperis 12 Nov 05 - 06:27 PM
suzi 12 Nov 05 - 07:07 PM
Peter T. 13 Nov 05 - 06:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Nov 05 - 07:01 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 13 Nov 05 - 07:34 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 06:43 PM

They are only words, Peace, and often inadequate to the task. The most unspecific word in the English language is love. Don't ya just love pizza? I've loved many people in my life, each differently.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 06:45 PM

Yes, I have! Thanks for asking! Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: number 6
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 06:50 PM

Soulmates (call it what you may) .... funny, the ones who found it, are the ones to less question it.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: bobad
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 07:09 PM

" Someone asked me yesterday if I was still looking at single women. I told him that there is no "upgrade" over my wife."

Jerry

Just because you're on a diet does'nt mean you can't look at the menu.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 07:50 PM

Well, this has indeed beeen a most interestin' thread and that's kind of why I asked for a defination of "soul-mate"...

Yeah, I've heard so many folk use the term over the years only to find them divorced a couple years later...

Ahhhh, the term "mate" works better fir me becuase it implies ones partner where as soulmate, ahhhhh, some mythical partner, like Bill said that might be out there but the chances of hookin' up are remote...

Now I have somewhat fortunate in my life with partners. My first wife, who taught karate, gave me a great son and then ran off with her sansai...

Teh I got lucky in meeting Judy...Yeah, we said things like we're soulmates and folks would see us together and say things like, "you two are soulmates"... Well we were purdy darned good mates until cancer took her in 1996...

A year later, I was blessed in meeting the P-Vine... Yeah folks said we were soulmates but whether or not we were or weren't we have been very good mates...

Lastly, when I think of a soul-mate, only Jesus Christ comes into my thoughts... He is my soul-mate... Now, I didn't want to say this earlier becuase I thought it might mess with the thread but now the thread is well established... But, yeah, I'm happy with Jesu as my soul mate and equally happy havin' the P-Vine as my mate...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:08 PM

Forty years of support and comfort, constant caring and sharing, culminating in a state of near telepathy.........Emphatically YES!!!

Mine has the usual battle scars and wear marks of a long, full lifetime, but when I look at her I see the girl I fell in love with all those happy years ago.

Get wise to yourself. You would be devastated if she made the kind of remarks about you that you feel justified in applying to her.

Be thankful for what you have. You don't know how long it will continue.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:26 PM

Trying to explain what a soul mate (or someone you feel really connected to on a deep level.. pick you own words)is is an impossible task. I know what doesn't necessarily make a soul mate. My first wife had more shared interests with me than any person I have ever met in my life. She scored a ten on the Shared Interest scale. We both professed a strong faith, which should have been the bond that might have held us together. It didn't work. There are many other things that come into play.. maturity, neediness, GENEROSITY OF SPIRT (sorry about that... I felt the need to emphasize that,) the ability to forgive and the ability to compromise.

A true soulmate allows you to be fearless in presenting yourself as you are. (Maybe Mr. Rogers is the ultimate soulmate?) I think that in order to BE a soulmate, you have to have humility. That means that you have to be comfortable with who you are, first. You have to accept yourself and love yourself without apology or excuses. If you can't do that, no sense searching for a soul mate.

You ain't prepared for one yet.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:34 PM

Three great posts in a row! Wow. Darned good thread. Bobert, ol' buddy, you is on the right track. Jesu is your own best self (and everybody's), that's the way I see it.

"Generosity and humility"? Yes indeed.

I wonder how many people are actually ready to meet their soulmate? (if there is one) I'm not at all sure that I am. I'm still working on better developing some of those inner virtues Jerry so eloquently alludes to.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:40 PM

Thank you Jerry for your comments.

I'm not sure if it is appropriate to do so, but I'm going to take the liberty to re-post a comment that you made on an earlier Mudcat thread since I consider those comment to be pertinent to this discussion:

Subject: RE: BS: What Love Really Is
From: Jerry Rasmussen - PM
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:24 AM

That's a beautiful story. If you want to know whether it's love or just infatuation or romance, fast forward a couple of years when the couple has struggled through the reality of living love on a daily basis, with all of it's disappointments and demands. Real love is a commitment to another person that requires giving when you feel like taking, forgiving when you feel like getting even, being patient when you are sick of waiting, trying to understand someone when they do something that makes no sense to you.... love requires humility, generosity, sacrifice and hard work. Romance comes easy. Most divorces began with what we call love.

But, if you give yourself to it completely, the blessings are beyond anything you could imagine.

Still learning...

Jerry

-snip-

And so am I.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: jimmyt
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:29 PM

yes. I married her November 15, 1969 and we were in love and best friends then. She is 5 feet away from me right now, we are still in love and still best friends. I know she could have done better but I am sure I could not have.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:51 PM

jimmyt, Happy Annivesary to you and your wife!

Perhaps you and everyone else who is with their love one knows how blessed they are.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 08:05 AM

The remarks on Buddhism somewhat up above are absurd. Romance and being clear-eyed about the world and others are not incompatible, in fact (as has been said elsewhere in this thread) real love is wise and compassionate about the mutual imperfections we all carry about with us.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: kendall
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 08:22 AM

I hunted for many years for the perfect guitar (for me). I found it about 13 years ago. At that point and for years after, I was sure there was no soul mate for me, but guess what...suddenly, there in my path of least resistance, was an English rose, and the rest is history.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 08:22 AM

The remark abour romance and Buddhism is from a book by the Dalai Lama, The Art Of Happiness.

"Without hesitation, the Dalai Lama said, "I think that, leaving aside how the endless pursuit of romantic love may affect our deeper spiritual growth, even from the perspective of a conventional way of life, the iddealization of this romantic love can be seen as an extreme. Unlike those relationships based on caring and genuine affection, this is another matter. It's something that is based on fantasy, unattainable, and therefore may be a source of frustration. So, on that basis it cannot be seen as a positive thing."

You can look it up, as Casey Stengel used to say.

(Casey DID believe in romantic love, or he never would have managed the Mets.)

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 11:50 AM

If you can see past the small faults and blemishes that affect all of us as we pass through life, to the person within, you will inevitably become aware that nothing of import has changed.

If you cannot imagine the possibility of life continuing in that person's absence.

If you are driven to tell that person at least once every day how fortunate you are to know her/him.

Then you have found your soulmate.

I have, and all,s right with the world no matter the trials and struggles of daily life.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 11:57 AM

If you have found your soulmate, why do you spend so much time on this website?


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:21 PM

It's fun, that's why.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM

Soulmates are not all-consuming, Guest. They are still indiviual and separate.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Cllr
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:39 PM

yes I have Champagne Carol love you Cllr


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: number 6
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 02:35 PM

"Soulmates are not all-consuming, Guest. They are still indiviual and separate."

Exactly Jerry .... my soulmate (of 33+ years) and I are completely different in many ways (background, religion, philosophy, music ... ) ... the one thing we have in common is our respect, appreciation, for our individuality and are secure and comfort in our differences.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 05:07 PM

The two statements you made were: "Budhhism pretty much discounts "romance" as a realistic ingredient in a soulful relationship" and that "people who are seeking "romance" are doomed to serial relationships for the rest of their lives".   The Dalai Lama hardly says either of those things in the quote (if it is an accurate quote, since there is a misspelling in it). He is speaking about the "idealization" and "the endless pursuit" of an ideal romance fantasy to the exclusion of caring.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 05:47 PM

From page 11 of the same book:

"It seems clear that as a source of happiness, romance leaves a lot to be desired. And perhaps the Dalai Lama was not far off the mark in rejecting the notion of romance as a basis for a relationship and in describing romance as merely "a fantasy, something unattainable," something not worthy of our efforts."

A typo-free quote.

I have the highest regard for buddhism, by the way. I read the book quoted because one of my sons has become seriously interested in Buddhism, and I wanted to share some of his search with him.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: hesperis
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 06:27 PM

bobad said "Just because you're on a diet does'nt mean you can't look at the menu."

Sometimes you're so full that just the thought of more food makes you nauseated, and you don't want to throw up what you just had because it was really good. Maybe marriage isn't the romantic/sexual equivalent of a diet.

That said, my husband isn't my soul mate in the usual sense of the term. He is however, a damn fine complementary force in my life, and I hope he'll be around for all my life.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: suzi
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 07:07 PM

Soulmate....As a believer.... needs no working at! just goes without saying... My soulmate and I were a couple for almost seven years.. him being in the life of my children from them being two years old until they were seven, and he is still my soulmate, even though we have both moved on, and now he has a wonderful new partner, who is as much as part of my and my childrens lives as he is. I am so happy that he has found her because they have something ...we just quite not didnt. I trully hope they make it.. as I am sure they deserve. After all Life is for living....and who the hell are we to say otherwise.....


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peter T.
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 06:11 AM

I hate to go on about this, but you don't say who the new quote is from, it too is not the Dalai Lama. The statement you earlier quoted speaks of the idealization of romantic love and the endless pursuit of romantic love, which are what is referred to as "it" in the last sentence. That is what the Dalai Lama seems to be opposed to, not romantic love per se. Buddhists are against obsessive fantasies of all kinds, from paranoia to sexual obsession to spiritual fantasies, they need to be seen as what they are, attempts to find a false stability outside oneself or in some vast inflation of the ego. Clear-eyed understanding of the other person who is cherished for themselves is not opposed to romantic love, in the Buddhist tradition (well, at least at the lay level, lay in the sense of layman (joke)).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:01 AM

Let me put it another way. To the best of my understanding (not being greatly knowledgeable about Buddhism) the Dalai Lama teaches that the most lasting qualities of a loving relationship are affection, compassion and mutual respect. moreso than sexual attraction or romantic fantasies. I agree with that 100%.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:34 AM

Right to the heart of it as always Jerry.

Spot on.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: *daylia*
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:01 AM

If I'm recalling correctly, the psychiatrist who wrote "The Art of Happiness" with the Dalai Lama says that any close relationship goes through repeating cycles of "Hold me close; put me down; leave me alone".

This parallels the first love relationship in everyone's life - the love of the infant for the parent.

I can really relate to this, not with one particular relationship but with "romantic" relationships in general. I've done the "hold me close" thing a few times already. (Got the kids to prove it! ;-) But "hold me close" was always followed in disappointingly short order with a traumatic "put me DOWN!" period, no matter how hard I tried or how much I wished otherwise. And over the last several years I've structured my life around the "leave me alone" phase.

Might not last forever, but if it does, that's fine too. Honestly, I'm happier and more self-determined than I've ever been in my life right now! And in so doing, I've discovered the most satisfying, wonderful, growth-promoting love relationship of all too - and this has nothing to do with another human being!

THe Dalai Lama says that in the WEst, people think the "put me down" and "leave me alone" phases of relationship are the end of the world, often terminating the relationship at that point. If they understood these periods as the natural "developmental phases" that they are instead, it would not be so devastating or frightening.

"Put me down" and "leave me alone" phases give each person in the relationship more breathing space - a chance for self-development and discovery, including discovering the all the "non-romantic" value and benefits of relationship. If these phases are patiently "endured" instead of turned into grounds for divorce, they offer the chance to cycle back into another "hold me close" phase much wiser, more mature, appreciative and self-aware.

Only wish I'd understood this YEARS ago!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: *daylia*
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:19 AM

PS My parents just celebrated their Golden Anniversary (50, count'em 50 flippin years no less!!) a couple weeks ago. Both over 70 now, they inspire true AWE, for me anyway. All my life I've witnessed those periodic "hold me close" phases, and the difficult "put me DOWN" periods, even a couple very painful stretches of (quite literal and very physical) "LEAVE ME ALONE!!"

BUt they hung in there, always remained faithful to one another even during those periods when they lived apart for a year or two. *sniff sniff sniff* they are truly a beacon for us all to follow, imo .... and I am so grateful for their enduring love and for their example.

BUt I doubt either of them considers the other any kind of "soul-mate". IN fact, I can just hear 'em chortling at the words right now!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 12:28 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 01:49 PM

Wise words from the Daylia Mommy.

Blame it on Art Thieme.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 02:00 PM

Good stuff, Daylia.

I also think the Dalai Lama is right on the mark.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 02:23 PM

I have flippin' found mine. Officer Jennifer Dana of the O.P.P. is my soulmate. This is fer life, folks. I have, like, found love and I ain't turnin' back. I never thought I would, like, fall for a cop, but Jennifer is no ordinary cop, eh? She, like, tooken a special interest in me from, like, day 1 and watched over me to, like, guide me on the strait and arrow path so's I wouldn't like end up like my bolthole of a brother and all the other idiots that useta be my friends cos all those flipheads know what to do is drink, steal, tell lies, and chase skirt. They are a flippin' case of a life that got wasted, eh? If it was not for Jennifer I would be just like them, but I have been saved, eh? I don't mean that reeligious stuff either. Jennifer ain't no bible thumper. But I am learnin' how to do things I didn't never think was possible...like...gettin' up before 10 AM fer example, and takin' out the trash. Stuff like that. I am down to only 2 beer a night! I knkow that is hard to belief, but it's true, eh? Why would I do this? Fipped if I know! It must be love, eh? It couldn't be nothin' else. Love is, like, powerful stuff, man!

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: hesperis
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 02:44 PM

Wow, Shane, that's great! Now all you need to do is learn English!


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 02:56 PM

What the flip are you talkin' about? I SPEAK English! I am not no frog either.

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peter T.
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 04:20 PM

As Kahlil Gibran used to say, let there be spaces in your togetherness.

It should be said that Buddhist monks were often taught to meditate on the disgusting aspects of the female form, including the pus and crap filled bag of innards, skull, bones, and other revoltingnesses.   It is not recorded whether this ever worked (many of the monks I ever spent monastery time with were incredibly randy alcoholics, but there you go).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 04:23 PM

That's a viewpoint I've heard, but never been much moved by, Peter. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 04:54 PM

I was reading on the Pampered thread that some folks think their soulmate is an electronic device. Sad state.

The notion that other cultures have found the secret (and in some sort of ipso facto we haven't) is a mistaken one, I think. I have encountered a few so-called soulmates in this life, both men and women. Interesting that so much of the talk addresses the opposite sex when what's being discussed is an intangible aspect of the human condition, one we posit is there yet we can't touch or see: the soul.

The above paragraph is not meant to argue with anyone's POV; rather, it is to clarify a statement I made a few days back on this thread. I am a lateral/scattered thinker who interprets things literally yet personifies/metaphorizes in order to explain. SO, I guess it is just the terminology that gets me as opposed to the idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM

Hey, Peace:

In the context of this thread, and in common over-useage, the term "soulmate refers to a member of the opposite sex. There is indeed an equally difficult to describe connection that is made from one "soul" to another that is not male/female defined. I think of a couple of instances in recent years where I have experienced an immediate connection with another man that we both recognized. Too bad everyone has to always think in sexual terms. When I met Joe, the bass singer in my group, and eventual Best Man at our wedding, we both realized almost immediately that there was a special connection between us that defies description. The closest that I can come to it is imagining what happened when John the Baptist, still in his Mother's womb, was described as moving because he sensed the presence of Jesus in Mary's womb. Setting aside for a moment whether that is believable, it describes the immediate closeness and connection that two people can feel for each other upon meeting for the first time.

Would I had words to adequately describe it.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 05:15 PM

I knew you would understand, Jerry. You are one of the people I'm talking about.

Hey, I just figured out that I was first in NYC in 1964. Were you still there then? Because--here we go again--I am positive we met.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 05:29 PM

People may feel a positive kinship with another person-regardless of their gender-because they have similar interests and they are
on the same wavelength or compatable wavelengths in their approach to the world.

Then again, for those people who accept reincarnation [like I do]
two people may quickly grow close to each other because [though they don't consciously recall it] their souls remember that they had close, positive relationships with each other in past lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:29 PM

Hey, Peace:

I left New York City and came to Connecticut in July of 1964. If you were in the Village before then, it is possible that we met. I also went down occasionally after that, as I only lived a 45 minute train ride away. If I had met you I woulda knowed, because you was on the cover of a record album and was famous. I was a non-entity in a city of 8 million. Perhaps you are mistaken. Maybe it was Claire Voyant you met.

I was recounting a crazy experience I had one night in New York City, to my friends Joe and Frankie... maybe worth repeating, as it has everything to do with that indefineable "connection" that occurs every once in awhile. I was playing at a Hoot at the Gaslight Cafe one evening, and after I did a couple of songs and went to sit down, someone came over and introduced themselves as Luke Faust. He really liked my music and wanted to get together some time to play together. I gave him my phone muber and a few days later got a phone call from him. A friend of his had a studio and was going to be recording Brownie McGhee and Sonny Terry that night and invited Luke. Luke asked if it was alright if I came along. I was very excited about it, and found my way down to a warehouse district that night, and walked up a couple flights of stairs and knocked on the door. Luke was there, and the guy who owned the "studio," but Brownie and Sonny had run into a problem and couldn't make it. So, the guy said that as long as he had the recording equipment set up, he'd record me and Luke. I had never even heard Luke play, and he'd heard me do a couple of songs, but there was home-made beer to loosen us up, and we sat down in front of the mikes. I pretty much knew the Anthology Of American Folk Music by heart and as it turned out, so did Luke. So, I'd ask him if he knew Fatal Flower Garden, or Peg and Awl, one of us would run through a line or two and then we'd be off and running. I never heard the tapes and after a couple of beers the night went slightly out of focus, but we must have played for two or three hours, quickly moving on to songs that just one of us knew, but the other could intuitively jump in to. It was unlike any expeerience I've ever had. It was like a second line of my music was coming out of Luke's voice and instruments, and a counterpoint of Luke's was coming out of mine. Later, I met someone who had heard the tapes and thought they were very good. They couldn't believe that we had never played together before. It was more under-standable for Luke because he was a certified genius. I was more of a three chord Carter Family clunker and had never played music with another musician before. It was exhilarating, and very bizarre, at the same time.

Whether it's being a "soulmate" who you love immediately without ever "falling," or a rare person where you know that there is no need for subterfuge, or apology the moment you meet them, there is a comfort and familiarity that doesn't exist in many people you've known for your whole life. Maybe it's the recognition that there is no need to spend a minute trying to impress someone, or make them like you. It just is.

You are one of those people, Peace. It's a small handful in a lifetime, so each friendship is to be cherished. It comes ready-made.

Jerry Voyant... Claire's brother


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 04:07 AM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: kendall
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 08:30 AM

Right on Azizi


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: number 6
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:07 AM

I definately agree with you on that Azizi !!


sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Peter T.
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:32 AM

Absolutely, Jerry. It can be a real problem if you have a soulmate relationship with someone of the opposite sex and it has nothing (well, overtly) to do with sex. Sort of like the discovery of a brother or sister.   Their other partners (if any) need to be very understanding!

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: MarkS
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:32 AM

Ohmygawdyes.
Found her in 1967
Lost her in 1969
Found her again in 2002
Married her in 2005
Life is grand.


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: LilyFestre
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 11:44 AM

Hey Jerry,

   I really like what you and Brucie had to say about this. I am quite in agreement. My best girlfriend and I met in a stairwell on Halloween. She was dressed as a vampy vampire and I was in pigtails and dressed as a toddler with what looked like a large bottle (it was, of course, alcohol). I looked at her, held up my bottle and proudly announced that this was the best orgasm I've ever had (drink of course!!!!). We've been great friends ever since. We clicked IMMEDIATELY. We share the same sense of humor and often it doesn't even need any words. We don't share many of the same interests (she doesn't like fiddle music...can you believe THAT?!?!?!? LOL) nor do we share the same points of view on many things but we compliment each other in such a way that we simply love one another silly. She is a soulmate...not the love of my life, but a soulmate, best friend, whatever you want to call it. When I had to take her to the ER recently, they asked what our relationship was. She and I both said, "She's the sister I was supposed to have."

:) Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 12:18 PM

Beautiful, Michelle:

Brings to mind a verse in a song I wrote about my friend, Luke Fause when he was living in Hoboken and I'd come over from Manhattan:

   If we had money, we'd stop for a beer
   Or walk by the water and sit on the pier
   Sit and we'd talk, 'till there's no more to say
   But we never needed words, anyway

To me, a soulmate:
   Helps you become the a.)person you were created to be
                        b.)person you were meant to be
   or c.) Realize your potential

Depending on your beliefs, you can pick any of the three statements (or all three.) I believe that every one of us has the seeds of greatness within us. Soul mates water the seeds.

Which reminds me of a verse of another song I wrote many years ago:

   Share the water, plant the seed
   All who hunger to be freed
   And all who ask will be released
   Love is the beginning

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: has any1 REALLY found their soulmate yet
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 12:24 PM

100! Thank you very much! Keep those fan letters rolling in.


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