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BS: KatrinaGate

Bobert 18 Dec 05 - 09:11 PM
GUEST,Buzz 19 Dec 05 - 07:02 AM
Bobert 19 Dec 05 - 08:55 AM
Amos 19 Dec 05 - 09:34 AM
GUEST,A 19 Dec 05 - 09:47 AM
Bobert 19 Dec 05 - 08:41 PM
Peace 19 Dec 05 - 08:44 PM
Bobert 19 Dec 05 - 09:27 PM
Bobert 19 Dec 05 - 09:41 PM
Peace 19 Dec 05 - 09:45 PM
Bobert 19 Dec 05 - 09:48 PM
GUEST,Buzz 19 Dec 05 - 11:59 PM
Bobert 20 Dec 05 - 12:10 AM
GUEST,Buzz: 20 Dec 05 - 12:19 AM
Amos 20 Dec 05 - 12:21 AM
Bobert 20 Dec 05 - 12:27 AM
Bobert 20 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM
GUEST,Crowbar 21 Dec 05 - 12:34 PM
Teribus 22 Dec 05 - 06:01 AM
Bobert 22 Dec 05 - 08:27 AM
Bobert 22 Dec 05 - 08:50 AM
Peace 22 Dec 05 - 03:15 PM
GUEST,Crowbar 23 Dec 05 - 10:47 AM
Bobert 23 Dec 05 - 06:09 PM
GUEST,Crowbar 23 Dec 05 - 06:35 PM
Bobert 29 Dec 05 - 10:49 PM
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Peace 30 Dec 05 - 12:17 AM
GUEST,A 30 Dec 05 - 07:46 AM
Bobert 30 Dec 05 - 08:14 AM
GUEST,A 30 Dec 05 - 09:07 AM
GUEST, Old Guy 30 Dec 05 - 06:16 PM
CarolC 30 Dec 05 - 06:32 PM
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CarolC 30 Dec 05 - 07:22 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 09:11 PM

I knew it was you, Leadfingers, when I saw it had hit 100...

Yer right on top of this stuff...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Buzz
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 07:02 AM

Bobert:

I see you have to dig up this miserable unpopular thread and post to it when it falls off of the list due to lack of interest. Sort of like jacking off.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 08:55 AM

Ahhhh, first of all "jacking off" is fir teenagers... Well, maybe not in yer case...

Secondly, you know fully why I refresh this thread and ain't got nuthin to do with me but everything to do with Bush and his Brownshirt followers...

Refresh...


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Amos
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:34 AM

The Doonesbury comic strip which baldly satirizes the ineptitude and corruption surrounding the reconstruction in the Gulf region of the US was the subject recently of a survey of Louisiana residents who were asked what they thought of it.

By and large they seem to thinnk it is fair and represents the actual state of incpmpetence and corruption behind FEMA's efforts.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,A
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:47 AM

Amos, It says nothing about the corruption "behind FEMA's efforts" as it does to the corruption of Lousiana government officials.

Nice try, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 08:41 PM

Actually, the corruption is in D.C. where a bunch of radicals are in the process of fleeecing the average workining American to give big tax breaks to folks who don't need them... D.C. is definately the corruption epicenter...


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 08:44 PM

One people divided by a common President.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:27 PM

Yeah, Bruce, like most of the things that Bush has said that turned out to be lies, his statement "I'm a uniter, not a divider" is as far from the truth as the rest of 'um...

You know, sometimes I think he's just plain stupid but other times I give him the benefit of the doubt and just figure the man as a pathological liar...

Really don't matter much... Waht he has done is solidify his presidency as one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, of any of 'um....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:41 PM

Yeah, Bruce, like most of the things that Bush has said that turned out to be lies, his statement "I'm a uniter, not a divider" is as far from the truth as the rest of 'um...

You know, sometimes I think he's just plain stupid but other times I give him the benefit of the doubt and just figure the man as a pathological liar...

Really don't matter much... What he has done is solidify his presidency as one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, of any of 'um....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:45 PM

That's twice you said that, Bobert.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:48 PM

Opps... How does this happen???


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Buzz
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 11:59 PM

Yass Bobert, your self gratification is most impressive. Ir reminds on of the song:

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better loking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.
Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.
Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.
Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
We're doing the best that we can


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:10 AM

John Prine???

Awww, Buzzer, come on over an get a big hug...

Sniff...

I love John Prine songs...


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Buzz:
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:19 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Amos
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:21 AM

Well there ya go -- that makes up fer Bobert doubling up!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:27 AM

Ahhhh, so it was John Prine??? I remember the song... Might have don it in the mid 70's... Heck, maybe I'm makin' it all up...

But I ain't makin' up th4 fact5 that Bush dropped the ball on "protecting Americans" when it came to Katrina...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM

Refresh, just in case one of the Bush apologists has come up with a "new & improved" story... Ahhhhh, heck, any story will do... They Bushites don't have any answers to this one other than personal attacks...

I love personal attacks because it means they have no other defense...


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Crowbar
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 12:34 PM

Bobert:

What would you have done to protect Americans during hurricane Katrina?


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Teribus
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 06:01 AM

"Bobert - 20 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM

I love personal attacks because it means they have no other defense..."

Well you would know pal, you make more personal attacks, and threaten more physical violence on this site than anybody else.

This thread of yours, that you had provided forewarning on that you had done your "homework on" must have proved a bit of a disappointment around 40% of the posts on it are your own.

One point though Bobert can you define the differences between "Katrina" and "Rita" the same overall organisation and procedures were used and in the case of the latter resources were constrained due to ongoing work due to "Katrina"

Are you going to congratulate those, top to bottom, involved in dealing with Rita, or doesn't your political bigotry allow that.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:27 AM

The difference in the two was in the "response", T... Yes, same overall organization just that with Katrine one thing was missing: an order for FEMA to mobilize...

Brown said he spoke with Bush two days before Katrina amd told him that he was very concerned about the possibility of a Cat 4 or Cat 5 hitting the Gulf Coast...

Now we learn that Gov. Blanko was making pleas as well... The White House is sandbagging on providing documents that would prove that...

Bottome line, if FEMA was the calvery, because of Bush's failure to order Chertoff to mobilize FEMA, the calvery was late...

And, yes, nice job on Rita...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:50 AM

Oh, an BTW, T, perhaps you find my sthick threatening but about 99% of my threats are done playfully... Like challenging Bush or Cheney to a fist fight...

There is one exception I can recall where I had a Catter blatently making false and vicious charges against me but even this Catter and I have now met personaslly and I believe we have not only a freidship but a level of mutual respect...

The rest is just plain funnin'... That's one thing I can always count of from you, however... Your absolute literalism...

And, no, there's no threat intended in that observation... Jus' calling it the way I see it...

In the word's of John Riggins to Sandra Day O'Conner, "Ya gotta loosen up, Baby..."

Peace

Bobert

p.s. I know, who's John Riggins???


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 03:15 PM

"Awww, Buzzer, come on over an get a big hug..."

F##kin' Kodak moment there and I missed it.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Crowbar
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 10:47 AM

Bobert:

I see you have nothing to say about what you would do to protect Americans if you were in the same situation as Bush.

How can you know was wrong if you don't know what was the right thing to do.

Your tread is nothing but the rantings of an anarchist.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 06:09 PM

Haha, C-Bar...

You couldn't be further wrong if you got up at the 4:00 in the morning and packed two lunches for the task...

No, I believe very much in "govern"ment... That, my fried isn't anarchy...

But, first, what I would have done was after 9/11 and having told people that I was out to protect them, I wouldn't have allowed FEMA to get kicked so far down the food chain that if the United Sates was hit again by terrorists that the country would have no agency with the tools to deal with the aftermath... That is what Bush did... He allowed a fully functional department that had the resources and knowledge to deal with such events to be gutted...

Even the last Secretary of FEMA, who had run Bush's 2000 election, quit is disgust when FEMA was gutted...

So in answering your question, C-Bar, alllot of what IO wopuld have done is not doing alot of what Bush did... Seems that everything that Clinton had done, Bush just thought he had some mandate because he had better lawyers that Gore to undo... So he undid FEMA and then when the country needed a rapid response after a national catastrope, there wasn't a fully functional FEMA to call upon...

I think if the Martians were to drop in and take a loof at what went on that Bush is closer to be the anarchist...

BObert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Crowbar
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 06:35 PM

Bobert:

You said nothing of what you would have done. You have no idea of what you would have done. Typical of you.

Turn on the vacuum cleaner and put the hose in your right ear. Do you feel air rushing into your left ear?

First of all who insisted that FFEMA had to be incorporated into DHS over Bush's objections?

Maybe it was the Martians that you think exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 10:49 PM

Okay, Old Guy:

1. Called off my vacation..

2. Called Michael Brown and told him to meet me at the White House on Sunday, Sept. 28th to discuss what what still intact...

3. Called Gov. Blanca and asked her to be in D.C. for the same meeting.

4. Called the Joints Chiefs of Staff and had them attend...

5. Called the Secretary of Homeland Security and had him attend...

6. Ask everyone that I called if there was someone else who should be in attendance...

7. Go on the TV on Sunday night, Sept. 28th and told the country that a massive disaster was bout to occur and plead with folks in New Orleans to try to find ways to evaculate... I would have also asked for churches and communtiy programs in neigboring states to ready themselves for incoming avacuees...

8. Alerted the Red Cross of the coming disaster..

9. Set up a command center...

10. Not stuck my head in the sand

Yeah, Old Guy, this is what I would have done... Tghis is what Bill Clinton would have done... This is what Richard Nixon would have done... This is what Jerald Ford would have done... This is what Jimmy Carter would have done... This is probably what even Reagan would have done...

Your guy???

AWOL!!!!

("Don't bother me, I'm on vacation, you morons...")

Hey, Old-G, even Bush's satff had to prepare a movie to show him so that he would ***GET*** what was going down????

Go figure????

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 11:40 PM

Excuse me, C-Bar,it justseems that at time you are more like O-Guy than o-Guy himself...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 12:17 AM

GOOOOD observation, Bobert. The man of many faces it seems.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,A
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:46 AM

Bobert, while this will seem like a moot point to you and you will say I am too specific or you might even say "Ya gonna ream a guy for a simple mistake?", your September 28th meeting might have been a little late. By a month..
To me, this is indicative of your postings regarding Katrina. The reason I choose to ignore your ranting and ravings.

I still wonder why a man in your position would not have tossed some equipment and clothes in a vehicle and went to the area to help out for a couple weeks.

Don't forget the Feds and other agencies had hundreds of vehicles headed towards the strike zone a couple days before the hit. They could not get there in time to do the evacuation. That was up to the firsy trsponders. As I said elsewhere, the truth would come to the surface. While it is still apparent that local Government failed to a degree, many of the NO residents could not have been pried out of there with a crowbar.

About everything you list was done. The Red Cross and the Salvation Army were on the outskirts of the strike zone BEFORE Katrina hit. Doing what you suggest on Sunday night would have been a little late, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:14 AM

August 28th, gol dangit, A...

You knew I meant August 28th but being the "A" that you are you decided that since I goofed on the month that now your guy did all the right thngs... Next thing ya know you'll be declaring yer guy kind because I don't spell they way you like???

BTW, when was FEMA cut loose, A:

2 days before Katrina ________

1 day before Katrina _________

The day of Katrina ___________

1 day after Katrina __________

2 days after Katrina _________

(pick one)

And who triggers the order:

"You're doing a good good job" Brownie _____________

The Secretary of DHS Chertoff ______________________

The President ______________________________________

(Pick one)

And where does the buck stop if such an order is late coming?

Donald Duck _________

Spiro Agnew _________

Jessie Jackson ______

Hillary Clinton _____

GW Bush _____________

(Pick one)

Ya starting to get it yet, A???

You need piccures??? There plenty of them....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,A
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:07 AM

bobert, the reference to the date was simply a little dig but does imply questions about the veracity of your posts.

Why didn't you addess some of the other points in my post rather than going into the 'bobert defense mode?"


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST, Old Guy
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:16 PM

1. Called off my vacation

When does Bush take a vacation? He has an office staff with him and offices at the ranch, Camp David and in Air Force 1. He is always available, even overseas.
As a matter of fact he did have a meeting with Blanco and Nagin on the ground in AF1 in NO wherein he asked Blanko if she wanted him to take over the National Guard. She said she needed 24 hours to give him an answer. She claimed to have asked him before the meeting.

2. Called Michael Brown and told him to meet me at the White House on Sunday, Sept. 28th to discuss what what still intact...

intact??? Katrina made landfall 7AM Monday the 29th.

3. Called Gov. Blanca and asked her to be in D.C. for the same meeting.

Would she have gone? How would she travel?

4. Called the Joints Chiefs of Staff and had them attend...

5. Called the Secretary of Homeland Security and had him attend...

6. Ask everyone that I called if there was someone else who should be in attendance...

All of these meetings would have been premature unless they were going to figure out a way to turn the hurricane around and keep it from hitting.

7. Go on the TV on Sunday night, Sept. 28th and told the country that a massive disaster was bout to occur and plead with folks in New Orleans to try to find ways to evacuate... I would have also asked for churches and community programs in neighboring states to ready themselves for incoming evacuees...

I knew from several sources that a disaster was going to occur. I spent Sunday afternoon and into the night convincing my daughter to leave her stuff and get out of NO. Of course you claim Bush to be a liar so folks like you would not believe him.

Also why should he override local governments. the plans that they go by say the local government is the first responder. I presume you would ignore the plans and "make up laws as you go" The New Orleans' Emergency Plan for hurricanes and The State of Louisiana Emergency Operations Planhave been made inaccessible for some reason so we can't read that. But the state has made The Federal Response Plan available on their site. Hmmmmmmmm. Does it sound like they are hiding their own failures and placing all of their responsibilities on the Federal Government?

8. Alerted the Red Cross of the coming disaster..

I am sure the Red Cross was well aware of the situation.

9. Set up a command center...

I see dozens of command centers that were set up. Most likely each agency and relief group had a command center of their own. Are you saying they should have all been in the same place or some agency did not have one?

10. Not stuck my head in the sand.

Complete sarcasm that means nothing and accomplishes nothing.

My plan of what should have been done:

A. Refuse the Democrats ( like Hillary and Kerry) demand to make FEMA part of Homeland security.

B. The residents of Louisianna and New Orleans should have voted for a Republican government. The one they have is typically irresponsible, incapable and corrupt. The way they handle the disaster is to point fingers, hide their failures, find fault with others and hold their hands out for aid.

C. Bush should have checked out "Brownie" throughly. He should go back and revisit every appointee to see of they are qualified.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:32 PM

Also why should he override local governments.

The local governments asked for assistance (they did not ask to be overridden). According to FEMA's job description, FEMA was required to provide the requested assistance, once it was requested. Not only did FEMA not provide the assistance that was needed (and requested), they actually interfered with the efforts of local authorities.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:05 PM

Their idea of asking for assistance is "send me everything youv'e got"

Real professional like. They only know how to ask for aid. They have no idea of how to be responsible and handle things themselves.

They had a plan. Did they follow it? How come we cannot see the plan anymore?


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:22 PM

"Everything you've got" really was an accurate description of what was needed.

The local people knew even before Katrina hit that they didn't have the resources to handle a storm of that magnitude. That's why they asked for assistance. The plan did not include evacuating everyone out of the city. They knew they didn't have the resources for that (Mayor Nagin said precisely that a couple of months before Katrina hit). The plan was to evacuate as many people as they could to shelters using municipal busses. And that's exactly what they did.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:27 PM

BTW, I've read the "plan".


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:28 PM

Well, then why is yer guy sandbagging on providing the notes and documents on his end of the deal???   Yeah, everytime he is asked for notes on his screw-ups he sandbags... Or claims executive priviledge...

Problem is that most folks just don't trust Bush any more so if I were him, I'd be doing a lot less sandbagging rather than more...

Ahhhh, BTW, O=Guy, the reason that I would have been meeeting with all the principles on August 27th or 28th is because by then I, like Bush was, wopuld have been forewarned that a major disacter was about to hit the coast...

It's called "pro-acting" rather than reacting...

Bush did not pro-act... Might of fact he went the wrong direction going to Califirnia to give a speech about his Medicaid reform ideas, which incidently means deeper and deeper cut to those who need the help the most???

Go figure???

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:40 PM

You are getting your time wasted by Old Guy, Bobert. You jus' pissin' into the wind, son.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:50 PM

Send me everything youv'e got would include what? A boquet if flowers? A Dominos pizza? Someone who knows how to do my job?

It is a ridiculous statement to make, even for a woman.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:54 PM

All this intelligence and a sexist too. Who'd a thunk it? OG, you just go from strength to strength.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:55 PM

Yer right, Bruce...

This guy is incapable of carrying on a debate or discussion or conversation or much more than anything excpet a Fox/Bush pep ralley...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:04 PM

Send me Everything you've got would include what? A boquet of flowers? A dominoes pizza.

It is a ridiculous thing to say, even for a woman.

Now we see that Peace sired Bobert. Is daddy proud?


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:33 PM

Send me everything youv'e got would include what? A boquet if flowers? A Dominos pizza? Someone who knows how to do my job?

It would include everything that was dealt with in the operation Pam scenario.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:54 PM

OG, all you have ever sired is apologist crap. Bobert is a fine young man as you can see by his posts. He has the verve and good manners to post under his own name.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:07 PM

Bobert, my son, ignore that guy. He is a misled individual.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 11:30 AM

I found a Bobert in the phone book:

Feizel Bobert
10932 Brunson Way
Glen Allen, VA 23060
804-270-6549

I found a peace too:
A. Peace
110 Main St
Stump Creek, PA 15863
814-427-5252

So I guess you guys are legit.


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 08:13 PM

Ain't no trouble finding me, Old Guy... I got a CD comin' out next month... I attend Getaways... I perform under "Sidewalk Bob"... If you want to find out even more then go to the Page News and Courier (Vol 138 No. 35, Sept.1, 2005) and check out my smiling face on the front page and a nice article about some of ther stuff I'm into...

Ain't no guessin' about my legit... I've met one heck of alot of Mudcatters who would tell ya if I'm legit... Might of fact, if you still have doubts, start a thread entritled "Is Bobert Legit?"...

Oh, BTW, may a follow-up thread entitled "Is GUEST, Old Guy Legit" might be intersting... Of course, lie the MG thread that MG prolly atarted himself under another phony "guest" you'd prolly be the obly one postin' to it...

But, what the hey, have a nice new years...

Bobert "the Legit"


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:12 PM

But was yore mama and Peace married?


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: GUEST,Edward
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:17 AM

Bush To Make Up Missed National Guard Service This Weekend

March 3, 2004 | Issue 40•09

WASHINGTON, DC—In a move intended to dispel criticism over his Vietnam-era military record, President Bush announced Monday that he will spend the weekend at the Sheppard Air Force Base in Wichita Falls, TX, to make up his missed National Guard service.

Enlarge ImageBush To Make Up Missed National Guard Service This Weekend

Bush tries on his new uniform.

"My fellow Americans, let's put an end to this controversy," Bush said. "This weekend, I'll take two days off from leading the greatest nation in the world, go down to Texas, and do drills with the Texas Air National Guard, if that'll make you happy. I can't imagine anything more important for me to do than sets of push-ups with a bunch of enlisted Guardsmen."

Added Bush: "Don't let me forget to ask Cheney to fill in for me as leader of the free world. Because I'll be busy spit-shining flight boots."

Critics claim records show that Bush was not seen by his direct military superiors from May 1972 to June 1973. The controversy, which first arose during Bush's Texas gubernatorial bid in 1994, resurfaced Jan. 17, when filmmaker Michael Moore called Bush a "deserter" at a rally for Democratic candidate Wesley Clark.

Although the White House has tried to prove that Bush fulfilled his obligations by releasing torn payroll records and evidence of a dental check-up, many remain unconvinced. Critics have said Bush's reluctance to release his entire military file indicates that he's hiding something.

"Go ahead and wave your dusty stacks of papers, call names, and point fingers," Bush said. "I'm just going to have to be the bigger man."

Bush, whose approval numbers have declined in recent weeks, said the accusations were false, but that he was willing to do "whatever it takes to please everybody" so that he "can return to the business of governing the country."

"I had to cancel dozens of appointments with cabinet members, congressional leaders, and foreign dignitaries," Bush said. "All that stuff's going to have to wait, since this 30-year-old story is apparently a pressing national concern, or something."

White House communications director Dan Bartlett appeared on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to defend the president.

"Others want to focus on talk, but President Bush is focused on action," Bartlett said. "George Bush, whose chief priority is keeping our country safe in a post-September 11 world, believes that going down there and making up a couple days' service is the best way to finally put this issue to rest."

Retired Army Gen. John Wilcox warned Bush that his service in Alabama might have unexpected consequences.

"Once he gets there, he's an enlisted man like anybody else," Wilcox said. "A lot of other National Guard and Army reservists thought they were just signing up for some tame domestic training and ended up in Iraq or Afghanistan. The president is taking a real risk here. For his sake and the sake of the nation, I hope he doesn't get shipped out."

At a press conference Monday afternoon, a reporter asked White House press secretary Scott McClellan why Bush wasn't making up his time in Alabama, where critics say he failed to report for drills during the entire time he was working on a family friend's U.S. Senate campaign.

"Well, the president is familiar with the base in Texas, so he chose to do his service there," McClellan said. "Why would he go to some random base in Alabama that he's never even been to before? I mean—let me start over. He did serve at the Alabama base, but we felt it would be easier to accommodate travel to a base that was closer to his ranch in Crawford. Case closed."


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Subject: RE: BS: KatrinaGate...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:20 AM

"But was yore mama and Peace married?"

Absolutely. Unlike your background--you having been begat on a duchess by a head waiter--ours is darn near immaculate.


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