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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bobert Date: 11 Jan 06 - 09:54 PM Ahhhh, I have to give this some thought... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 11 Jan 06 - 09:43 PM Bobertucus: Which is the more evil, GWB or cut-n-pasters? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Peace Date: 11 Jan 06 - 09:15 PM Thank you, Bad Boy. That's twice I have done that and you are the first to comment. I am pleased. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Jan 06 - 08:11 PM I suppose it's like taking time to build a carefully-crafted architectural masterpiece, and then to have other folks come into the neighborhood with trailers and surround you with with ready-built, mass-produced McMansions that are twice the size of yours. It isn't quite fair. At the very least, I think it's polite to include at least some of your own words in a post that includes a copy-paste. It certainly does make sense to use copy-paste on occasion, but some people do it all the time, and post huge amounts of verbiage that I wonder if they even take time to read. Use some moderation, folks, and then I won't have to bother using my editing button. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,The Bad Boy, Date: 11 Jan 06 - 08:05 PM lol Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:59 PM SHamBlews shoud be banned, beacase of he is a big wamker/ and alwaytsas making trubble. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: number 6 Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:56 PM I'm beginning to agree with you Bobert. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bobert Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:54 PM persons who post "PERSON'S who do not like cut/pastes should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!" should be banned... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:14 PM But I don't think you'd disagree, tarheel, that it is a mistake to post a cut and paste without indicating it as such, and something that we should try to avoid doing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Peace Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:03 PM PERSON'S who do not like cut/paste should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: tarheel Date: 11 Jan 06 - 06:31 PM PERSON'S who do not like cut/paste should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 11 Jan 06 - 05:35 PM GuestOldGuy: Just to show that someone reads your posts! Why in the cheesey stats from 'Poll of the day' do they leave out some cheeses? The end of the piece says "total votes 72" but if you add up the numbers in brackets there's only 67 votes cast! CHEERS Nigel Oh, and just to Justify posting in this thread I composed this message in Word, and then cut'n'pasted it |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bill D Date: 11 Jan 06 - 05:18 PM Kaleea..there are some free Windows programs that will do that, but any editing like that will take at least a little learning curve...depending on how fancy you want to get.... IrfanView is a VERY popular viwer/editor for basic stuff.... FastStone is a newish one that is clever as all getout.... but for free, PhotoFiltre is about the best....except for one called "The Gimp", which is renowned for complexity...you do NOT want to start there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Amos Date: 11 Jan 06 - 05:05 PM Rudeness in extremis indeed, Kevin. Kaleea, there are many Phot Edit programs and graphic management programs that are intentionally easy to use and not bloated with advanced features which you can use for that purpose and they are a LOT simpler than the pro tools like Photoshop. In the Mac World, we use Graphic Converter a lot for this purpose. Microsoft makes a lighter-weight image managing Wintel program, but I don't know its name. But they are out there for with Windows or Mac users. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 11 Jan 06 - 04:59 PM A long cut and paste included in a post by someone who is trying to develop some argument is one thing. It's better to give a link and a summary indicating why the piece linked to might be worth visiting, but it's no different in principle from using a quote to add muscle or colour to what you are saying. In a way it is rather like singing a song someone else wrote, as a way of making a statement. And there are other occasions when there is some reason why an article, that the identified poster thinks is highly relevant, may not be accessible through a link - maybe it's on a site where you have to pay to get in, or something like that Something quite differentis when an article gets shoehorned in here, with no indication whatsoever that it is anything other than a post by a Mudcat member or GUEST. The problem with that is the way that it undermines the give and take of the Mudcat, because you can't argue back and forth with someone who isn't there and never has been. I don't think banning is the answer. But that kiond of behavuiourn should be recognised it as bad manners. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Kaleea Date: 11 Jan 06 - 04:55 PM Why can't they make a really easy & inexpensive way for a novice (without buying more software & having to learn how to use it-I don't even know how to use all of windows!) to cut & paste a portion of a picture-say a person, & place it on another pic-say a landscape. Just for home use, of course. Not for tabloids, I know they've been doing it for years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: bobad Date: 11 Jan 06 - 04:50 PM Thanks Bill, I'll check them out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bill D Date: 11 Jan 06 - 04:41 PM bobad! (Mudcat was slow, and I missed your reply) here are several clipboard extenders Yankee Clipper is a very commonly recommended one...free & pay versions. http://www.mlin.net/Clipomatic.shtml is just free..from a guy who just like to give stuff away. CLCL is also interesting... MultiClipboard is pretty good.....and free... but the one I think in the 'best' is not free...if you want highly configurable, try ClipMate .... lots of free ones to try..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 11 Jan 06 - 02:56 PM That's why you are ignorant. IGNORE |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:43 AM The fact is that the only posts in which you have any control over these aspects are your own. (Shambles in the old September thread in his first of many posts). Doesn't this whole Bobert thread just feel like a cut and paste of the old one? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Dave Hanson Date: 11 Jan 06 - 04:52 AM Guest Old Guy, you can shorten your cut and pastes as much as you want, it really doesn't matter because nobody reads it anyway. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 11 Jan 06 - 01:21 AM I am not an author and truth is based on facts, not opinions. I find myself watching stuff like the History channel more and more. Movies about fictional stuff just don't hold my attention any more. I am very impressed with facts and someone's ramblings and posturings just have anything for me. What jerks like Harry Bellafonte says does not impress me but the fact that he said it is very important. Give me a nationwide poll or three for comparison about how many people think what Bellafonte said is correct and should he have said it and I have a fact to go by. I can tell somebody I think they are wrong and support it with a cut and paste from somewhere else. I see people yammerin' on about crap like how everybody likes limberger cheese and anybody that don't is stupid. Yeah that is original horseshit. We got enough horseshit so I say what are you talking about? 89% of people don't like limberger cheese and you are the stupid one and then I support it with what I consider a fact. Then usually I get told something like "Harry Belafonte says everybody likes limberger cheese and you are stupid for not taking one man's word for it." and "Stats are for loosers." Odly enough, I just found a poll that supports my claim, no kidding. Cheddar - 40.28% (29) Cheesecake - 23.61% (17) Stilton - 9.72% (7) Lancashire - 6.94% (5) Squeezy Cheese - 4.17% (3) Cheshire - 2.78% (2) Dairy lee triangles - 2.78% (2) Wensleydale - 1.39% (1) Edam - 1.39% (1) Total votes: 72 http://www.polloftheday.co.uk/content/view/98/108/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Amos Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:33 PM Peace: Control + C is the Windows imitation of the CMD +C you use on an iMac. Bill liked the idea so much he decided to keep it. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: number 6 Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:31 PM "It's a lot easier than trying to be original." It certainly is a lot easier ... but I try to be original, and I appreciate the efforts of someone else 'trying to be original" .. and I find their posts more intersting, more genuine. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:31 PM Bobert: I'll make a deal with you. You include some cut and paste with your stuff proving that you are really reading things and looking for information and I will shorten my cut and pastes. You know, I learn a lot while googling for facts. Sometimes I find out I am wrong. When I do, I don't try to prop up what I said when I was wrong. Some times I print a retraction. If Amos had to do that he would strip every gear in his transmission. Nobody is right all of the time. I will admit GWB bit off more than he can chew. He ain't perfect but what the hell good does it do to try to cut his legs off? It just makes that wad bigger and bigger. It hurts the US more than it hurts him. Did you see Imam Zawa whatever crowing about a US pull out in Iraq? They think that they have broken the will of the American public. Have they? Has it made them fight harder and longer? Even mr Kerry said he would have done the same thing or at least he did. Would you have your chain saw out after him too? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Ron Davies Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:27 PM Be sure to tell PDQ--who thinks all information should be conveyed by cut and paste--about this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:23 PM Everything I've ever posted to the Mudcat, including this post, has been a copy-and-paste job. There's this website where there's a guy who thinks exactly like I would think if I thought, so I just copy his stuff and paste it here. It's a lot easier than trying to be original. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:20 PM Everything I've ever posted to the Mudcat, including this post, has been a copy-and-paste job. There's this website where there's a guy who thinks exactly like I would think if I thought, so I just copy his stuff and paste it here. It's a lot easier than trying to be original. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:53 PM Danged, Old Guy.... You reading my nightmares, er what??? There I was in Mr. Carpenter's Algebra class and all I needed was a D on the last test and I'd have the summer off.... But then the test is handed out and it looked jst like what you just posted... Have you ever been accused of being the anti-Christ??? Just curious??? Bobert p.s. What does Algebra have to do with Bushites posting long, boring, irrelevant C&P's??? And please don't answer with a lot of x's and y's... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:25 PM Sorry if the truth hijacks your pet threads and gets you all discombobertated Bobert. Instead of a database writing pages on the fly, this forum should be a CGI script writing real pages with the length of the posts limited. When Mudcat stops responding, a traceroute shows a routing problem is occuring. Where is it hosted? Try a different host like Pair.com or theplanet.com Both have nice pipes. 1 POD-C-VL4.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.4.1) 0.246 ms 0.177 ms 0.171 ms 2 CORE0-POD-C-CYH.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.0.186) 0.257 ms 0.185 ms 0.179 ms 3 HYPER-VL501.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.33.225) 0.257 ms 0.206 ms 0.200 ms 4 bar-cmu-ge-4-0-0-1.3rox.net (192.88.115.181) 0.294 ms 0.289 ms 0.284 ms 5 minime-ge-0-1-0-0.3rox.net (192.88.115.5) 0.618 ms 0.567 ms 0.676 ms 6 so-2-1-1.ar3.JFK1.gblx.net (208.50.254.45) 22.486 ms 22.585 ms 22.584 ms 7 so1-2-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.67.53) 27.569 ms 27.499 ms 27.540 ms 8 gblx.ge-0-1-1.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.31.201) 27.448 ms 27.565 ms 27.694 ms 9 ge1-5.hr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.31.134) 27.661 ms 27.555 ms 27.629 ms 10 206.223.137.59 (206.223.137.59) 24.143 ms 21.728 ms 22.056 ms 11 chaz-200e.coretel.net (209.163.107.249) 21.360 ms 21.538 ms 21.645 ms 12 balamtrak-chaz.coretel.net (209.163.107.254) 21.723 ms 21.896 ms 23.301 ms 13 phlamtrak-balamtrak-13.coretel.net (209.163.107.13) 24.442 ms 24.013 ms 23.662 ms 14 401-30s-OC3.coretel.net (69.72.0.129) 25.329 ms 28.749 ms 24.728 ms 15 phila401-gw-f0-1.voicenet.net (207.103.168.1) 25.668 ms 25.080 ms 24.295 ms 16 phila-7200-gr.voicenet.net (207.103.168.41) 217.072 ms 27.319 ms 25.286 ms 17 207-103-102-183.lata228-vz-1.voicenet.com (207.103.102.183) 33.335 ms * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * 207.103.108.105 (207.103.108.105) 41.993 ms |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: bobad Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:08 PM Hey Bill, I've been trying to figure out how to 'clipboard' more than one item at a time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bill D Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:05 PM (I suppose I shouldn't tell 'em about the various "clipboard extenders" which allow you to save long lists of text items for 'almost' instant pastes, should I? ooops... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:03 PM On my keyboard it is SHIFT-6 and it comes out ^ . Don't tell me you guy's waste your time going up to a menu and doing the drop down cut and paste routine? Too many steps and keystrokes, too much mouse action there. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Jan 06 - 09:47 PM Just use scissors and flour paste. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 06 - 09:41 PM What the heck is SRS taking about anyway, Bruce??? I thought this was a folk music website... I must have taken a wrong turn and ended up back in Mr. Carpenter's Algebra class.... What a nightmare!!!!! (Think "The Scream" here).... Horrors... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Peace Date: 10 Jan 06 - 09:31 PM Where's the Control button? Is it near the ampersand? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jan 06 - 09:27 PM Cut or Copy (you CAN 'cut' if it comes from an original document of your own!) and Paste is a valuable tool, but some abuse it who can't be bothered to make good arguments for themselves. Bludgeoning the other participants in the thread with chapter-and-verse from the party manifesto is not the same as carrying on an extemporaneous discussion and augmenting with occasional cut-and-paste offerings by way of citation. (Control-X is cut, Control-C is copy, Control-V is paste. Very handy!) SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,PnG Date: 10 Jan 06 - 04:32 PM And there you are criticising the content of other peoples posts, if you weren't so po-faced you would find it funny. Still irony never was one of your strong suits. I knew this thread would get you posting more of your single issue tripe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: The Shambles Date: 10 Jan 06 - 02:52 PM Bobert Perhaps when those posters who cut and paste start posting to tell you how to post - is the day that you may have some justification in asking for judgement to be passed upon them? Until then - perhaps we should all just concentrate on the only thing we do have any control over - the content of our own posts? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Wolfgang Date: 10 Jan 06 - 02:31 PM Well, well, well... I hate to bring it up again but fir those of you who think you are being clever with yer "War 'n Peace" lenght cut-n-paste responses, all you are doiong is seriously weakenin' yer danged arguments... ... and wasting bandwidth!!! If you can't make yer arguemnts without draggin' other folks blogs in word fir worfir word fir word than you ain't thinkin' 'bout nuthin'... Hey, if you wanta read somethin' and come in and argue based on what you have read, fine, but at least make an attempt to be arguin' yer points as, ahhhhh, ***you***... Tell ya what, most folks ain't gonna read no "War 'n Peace" length rebuttal that you ain't even written... Plus, after you been through a couple of them, they are boring and not at all objective... MO... (Bobert in the BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... thread he started in September 05) I must say I did like the 'war and peace' comparison better than the new one. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,PnG Date: 10 Jan 06 - 01:08 PM Another good reason to go to the Getaway ;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Donuel Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:40 AM Look at me aren't I clever posts are my domain. If I only posted other people's cartoons that you could see anywhere, my point of view would be an unheard unseen tree that fell in the forest. I think people who only see self agrandizement in a clever post are either insecure or untalented. Spaw divides posts into 2 catagries; mildly amusing or pain in the ass. If one does not know how to create a link - LEARN HOW. If you can not write creatively or paraphrase - LEARN HOW, its worth it. Usually a viewer never digests anything beyond the visual page. If they have to scroll, you have probably lost them. ........ Hey Amos, In MD it is a crime to say "I'll kill you" on the telephone but it is legal, fine and dandy in person. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Bill D Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:27 AM we've gone thru this quite a bit.......Joe has sort of semi-officially said that anything over **ONE SCREENFULL** of C&P text is fair game for being edited. The rule is not enforced hard & fast, but those who do heavy C&P ought to be on notice that it 'might' be..... I almost never read huge C&P (that's COPY & paste, not cut)...but if the subject is relevant & interesting, I will go read it at the source...and my interest is more easily stimulated if YOU say something in synopsis, along with a few sentences of text...much like an abstract of a paper. There oughta be a C&P version of "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.", but I can't think of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Peace Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:32 AM Yeah, I Know that this oule effectively end what Amos is so valiantly doing but, hey, this is getting rediculous.... Y ou can no longer disussa nything without some jerk throwing one long cust 'n psatwe afer another into the mix... Hey, where's the discussion when that occurs... Plus, the Bushite's have major corporate backing fir folks like Teribus who get paif by the word who just pump out reems of nothingness... Yeah, I know.... "Hey Bobert, don't read 'um... Problem is that it only takes a couple of them to highjack a discussion... That's my take on 'um... I'd love fir everyone to have to stand in the ring and takes their shots rather than sending "Tropic of Cancer" lenght serrogates... MO, mind you... Bobert I agree. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Amos Date: 10 Jan 06 - 10:01 AM Excuse me. I have no idea why Garg went to the Henry Miller archive like that, but the post about the abuse of others via the Internet is germane. In fact, Gargoyle's post irritated anf annoyed me. So I'm turning him in! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Paco Rabanne Date: 10 Jan 06 - 09:54 AM Well said PnG. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,PnG Date: 10 Jan 06 - 04:43 AM It's called single issue posting, and lots of people do it. It is largely an exercise in self aggrandisement, a sort of "Look at me aren't I clever" sort of post. It's mostly done by people with time on their hands, or a grudge in their heart, and certain people get away with it and others get 'rubbed out'. If your face fits or people are scared of you, then you can do largely what you like, other wise learn to do Blickies . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: Dave Hanson Date: 10 Jan 06 - 04:22 AM Why do you do it Amos and Gargoyle ? you no-one reads shit like that. No it's not clever it's stupid. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 10 Jan 06 - 12:12 AM Yes, Henry Miller is one of my personal favorites.
- Henry Miller, "The Tropic of Cancer" ( $ ) ( ? ), In Art - Henry Miller, "The Tropic of Cancer" ( $ ) ( ? ), In Literature |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut 'n Pastes Should be Banned... From: michaelr Date: 09 Jan 06 - 11:53 PM Amos? Are you in the right thread, or did you smoke something unusual? Cheers, Michael |
