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BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley

Will Fly 08 Mar 11 - 08:53 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 08:53 AM

Is it an urban fox? What I mean is - are you in an urban or suburban area with no fields to hand? We get foxes aplenty down here in Sussex - they even trot slowly and boldly down the road - but the road's a cul-de-sac and ends in miles of fields.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 09:34 AM

There are fields within 400 yards of our house in Surrey, but we are on a fox run. 3 years ago a family of 4 cubs lived under decking in the garden next door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 10:19 AM

Ah - so they're locked in to that particular patch!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:33 AM

Possibly, my wife spoke to a friend this morning who lives 5 minutes walk away near a park with a wooded area, and they are inundated with foxes at the moment!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:49 AM

No shortage of critics of the Conservative/Liberal Government here, so what is it you are actually saying, do you want a Labour Government to run the country into the ground again ?????

What I want David to do is come down hard on benefit scroungers. No one here can honestly say that the current system is fair.

Young couples in full time employment pay for childcare, their mortgage or rent and every other bill that comes in. There are numerous workshy couples lying up on their ass all day milking the system and breeding what they refer to as "beer tokens" The government must come down hard on them.

Then you have the so called single mothers (I call them something very different) there is no way they should get a house paid for by the taxpayer, either go live in a hostile or let their mothers and fathers maintain them. It is a profession these days, young girls see the benefits that are available and go out to get knocked up.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about families living off benefits who complain, "Oh we want this and we want that!!" You're getting money for sitting at home on your backsides for doing sweet eff all when others like me worked all of our lives to support the likes of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 12:21 PM

Sorry, meant to say hostel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 01:36 PM

A neighbour works in Child Tax Credit investigations and is kept very busy looking at countless fraudulent claims from the type of scum that David Cameron will come down hard upon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 01:54 PM

I'm sure he or she is, and I don't deny there are many abuses of the system. But I can't help feeling there are far more profitable and easier ways of getting money out of the system than having a child. I suspect, for example, that a goodly proportion are for children they either don't have at all or share parenting with an ex-partner, or similar tricks to claim multiple times for the same child. All very reprehensable and illegal, of course, but a far cry from this daily-mailesque picture of hundreds of people having children specially to exploit the system (and, yes, I do know about the housing rules and how having a child bumps you up the queue)


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 02:19 PM

Numbers please - let's have some hard facts - and not some just culled from the Daily Mail. Real scale of the problem?

Have you been reading about the furore over the latest disability tests - run just on a computer by a French firm? Very recently ondemned by an investigative group of MPs.

Typical example: man is judged as "having some sight problems but is fit to work". The man is blind.

Typical example: man has terminal multiple sclerosis - totally incapacitated - judged "fit for work".

These are two single examples of a government system not working. So - think on this: Before you start applauding systems and measures to deal with the "scum", be aware who exactly the "scum" are and what the real problems are. You never know - at some point in time they might be your own nearest and dearest.

This is neither a left-wing nor a right-wing point of view. It's the point of view of someone who's had extensive dealings with government agencies through Labour and Conservative regimes - particularly on the governmental, statistical front - and I can tell you that I'm bloody well unimpressed with their common sense and their capacity to do things properly and justly. And there's no evidence, so far that, for all his posturing - just like Blair's posturing - Cameron has any ability to think clearly about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 02:57 PM

Hi

I agree with Will. It is easy to accuse people of being scroungers etc etc but identifying the real ones and then dealing with them properly is something that both governments have tried over many years.

most of the scroungers are very adept at obtaining benefits illegally and detecting them is very difficult.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Smokey.
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 03:49 PM

People living on benefits don't drain anything like as much from the system as those in tax-paying but non-productive full time employment. The public sector is paid from tax payers' money, so any tax they pay doesn't really contribute anything to the economy. Some of those in the public sector make a valuable contribution to society with what they do, and some don't, but they all cost money and use resources, and the public sector is now bigger than the private sector. The majority of the private sector is occupied with servicing the public sector rather than producing goods for export and the majority of people in general spend more on imported goods, often unnecessary, than on goods produced here. Also, the majority of people live in perpetual debt created from 'money' which never actually existed in the first place. I forget the overall amount of this debt, but it's mind bogglingly large - without even including mortgage debt. Naturally, that devalues whatever was there in the first place just the same as printing more hard cash would; it's just slightly more subtle. There is little wonder that we are up Shit Creek, but it's by no means the fault of the unemployed or the so-called 'benefit scroungers' - their financial effect is negligable. It seems to me that the only sector now making a significant contribution to the economy is the very rich, who actually still have enough real money left to do so. It's their contribution which is keeping us afloat, or at least slowing down the process of sinking enough (perhaps) to do something about it.

I say all this as an observation, not a judgement or endorsement of anyone or anything. The only judgement I would make is on the team of clueless twats economists who first advised Thatcher on the 'merits' of monetarism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:42 PM

What would be really interesting is the mental state people reach, before they decide they are right about these difficult issues.

That's what I think was the real giveaway with Sir Alan Walters. He was so sure he was right - even as terrible irreparable harm was being done to the social fabric of the country.

The trouble with politics and democracy to some extent - is that we are continually being sold simplistic answers to complicated problems. Blair was going to solve the country's illiteracy problems (which in my opinion lie at the heart of many other problems) - how was he going to do it....PHONICS. Like trained teachers have never heard of phonic reading systems.....!

Thatcher was going to solve all our union problems with 'free collective bargaining'. Arthur Scargil found out how free that was.

Politicians are like salesmen who have somehow started to believe their own phoney catchphrases. At what point the public are going to realise that they are all bullshit artists, I don't know. I don't expect it in my lifetime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:13 PM

Ah yes. Those who take out more than they put in. Like bankers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Smokey.
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 08:11 PM

"At what point the public are going to realise that they are all bullshit artists, I don't know. I don't expect it in my lifetime."

Take heart, Alan - two thirds of Barnsley seem to realise it, though I don't suppose that will stem the relentless flow of bullshit.

As a great man once said: "If you must put people on pedestals, wear a big hat."


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:00 AM

My goodness, are you all still here? Well, here's a bulletin from the real world.

While Cameron and his poodle, Clegg, are running around cocking up everything they touch (notably our foreign 'policy'), sucking up to complete arsehole and paedophile supporter, Andy Windsor, and the Cabinet appears to be falling apart around their ears, here's what's going on right now in just a few areas that I happen to personally know about.

Adult Education - funding axed.
Lifelong Learning – funding axed
Back-to-work schemes – funding axed
Job creation schemes – funding axed
Mental health provision and support – funding axed
Day centres – funding axed
Police pay – about to be cut
Police numbers – already being cut
Police shifts – increased from 8 hours to 12 hours
Police rest days – chopped
Police pension provision - devastated
Victim support – funding axed

It's now being left to charitable organisations, like the Worker's Education Association, who mrsleveller works for, to try to pick up the pieces (despite their own funding cuts) and try to stop our society from falling apart.

As we always expected, it's the most vulnerable in society who are bearing the brunt of cuts, while millionaire bankers, who caused the financial crisis in the first place, continue to be rewarded with obscene salaries and bonuses. Big Society my arse – biggest load of crap I've ever heard in my life. Disintegrating Society more like.

So to all those right-wing, head-in-the-sand, selfish, blinkered, I'm-alright-Jack, Condem supporters, this is what you approve of, is it? Everyone who is too old or too ill to work or who, with unemployment topping two and a half million, simply can't find work, is a scrounger, are they – unlike you who have raped society with your greed and taken 40% handouts in tax relief on your pension contributions. Maybe when you get old, get ill, get mugged or get made redundant you might just change your minds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:22 PM

I laugh!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 03:16 AM

What is it you're laughing at Bozo - vulnerable people being denied the support they need - or is it just your usual mindless demented giggling.?

Come on, do tell so we can all join in the joke.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 03:52 AM

Well said leveller.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:31 AM

Well said Bonzo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:06 AM

Why 'well said', Blackie? Are you denying that these cuts are taking ploace or are you such a selfish twat that you simply don't care? Or maybe it's just that you're as big an idiot as Bozo.

Please tell us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:20 AM

Leveller, let's get real for a moment. This country is in a mess. Yes cuts have to be made, we must reduce the debt. The Labour party, have all but destroyed this nation and its economy. Their legacy is one of record youth unemployment, millions of 'illegals' and a national debt far bigger than that of Greece. Partly thanks to them, England alone is now the third most densely populated nation on the planet; with South Korea and Bangladesh the only countries in a worse state.

Political expediency will prevent any government taking the tough measures that need to be enacted in the short term. I think the challenge will come in five to ten years when the structural deficits hit the western economies like a tsunami. The pain is going to be very real indeed as a public that have been bought by political parties have to be weaned off the teat.

Firstly there has to be a realisation that foreign arrivals MUST not receive any financial support in the UK, this would include health services, education and housing. The health system itself will need to rationalise back to preventative and primary care only, cosmetic and reproductive services are not necessities and should therefore be provided only by charities or private means. Unemployment benefits should only be paid to those that have worked and paid into the system, likewise with pensions. Slash the public sector back to essential services only.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:23 AM

I laugh at the very predictable quindering on this thread from all the usual lefties!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:33 AM

Well said Bonzo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:18 AM

Tinfoil hat time! Bozo and Dickie Noir you are not only offensive, you are irrational.

First, there is an argument whether the markets should be pandered to as such.
Second, the depth of cuts is dangerously over-aggressive on any sensible measure and risk creating worse problems than no cuts at all or lesser cuts.
Third, targetting those cuts at those least able to bear them is not only inhuman it is irrational in that it should be easier to collect from those best able to bear.
Fourth, cutting rather than taxing and spending is unwise indeed given the recessionary risks.
Fifth, as even Mervyn King has said (although not quite in these words) those most to blame should bear the greatest burden - and that is the banks and the bankers now trousering even and ever fatter bonusses as reward for their attacks on society and humanity.

It would be poetic justice should you two have to live out your lives on the pittance that the condems would leave for benefits. It can happen even to the rich. I know of one solicitor who retired to the Channel Islands (and you two probably know how much axle grease that takes) thinking himself set up for life and then lost the lot to unwise investments and the Thatcherite recession.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:22 AM

...record youth unemployment... Unemployment benefits should only be paid to those that have worked and paid into the system...

Do you see the lack of joined-up thought here? The bulk of unemployed youth are between 16 and 24 - and presumably the prevalence of unemployment in that sector is owing to their leaving education and unable, as yet to get a job.

So - they can't have paid into the unemployment benefit system through not yet being able to work and would consequently - under your diktat - receive nothing through no fault of their own.

Starving on the streets is obviously OK. After all, they'll be looked after by the millions (how many millions?) of illegal immigrants who will also get no money and will also be sleeping rough. You'll be stepping over them in the street. Don't trip.

Why don't you do as Poirot does, and use your little grey cells for a moment, instead of braying about what MUST and MUSTN'T be done. Just think about society and how it's to develop sensibly - or do you believe, like a previous incumbent of No. 10 - that there's "no such thing as society"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:34 AM

"I know one solicitor", I know one barrister" "I am friendly with a judge" "I recall at Cambridge" "I recall when I……" Boringgggggggggggg

We are sick of "All our yesterdays" Catweasel. Cut out this working class hero who rubs shoulders with the rich and famous crap.

So what do you want, Labour back in Government to finish off the country ? Get the hair out of your ears and eyes old boy. They had their chance and we are now having to pay for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:56 AM

Well, I'm just thinking about having fun!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:12 AM

Can't you read, or don't you know the difference between "I know" and "I know of"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:43 AM

Is that you have to offer to this debate ? Ah just admit defeat Catweasel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 09:23 AM

He's got the hump because flickr closed his page down!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 09:37 AM

Oh, apart from the earlier admissions of pure selfishness, Bozo, is that another admission, this time of linkage to the moronic sociopaths responsible for fake flickr pages and similar things?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:38 AM

Occasionally everyone is guilty of thread drift, but I see Bridge is into the realms of fantasy. What the hell are you talking about, and what has this to do with this thread ?

Possibly a case of vulgaris (also known as Barbers itch, and Sycosis barbae) is a coetaneous condition characterized by a chronic infection of the bearded region causing madness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:43 AM

coetaneous simply means "of the same duration".

I think the word you're searching for is cutaneous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:57 AM

Thanks Will, sorry thick thumbs today !


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 01:24 PM

Well the usual brainless idiocy from Bozo who hasn't the intelligence or the initiative to put forward any form of argument when confronted with hard facts. Back to your bedsit, Bozo, you really are a straw dog.

Blackie, you're completely and, I expect, deliberately missing the point I'm making. Why, in this time of unarguable economic recession, brought upon us by the greedy financiers, should the weakest and most vulnerable be the first to suffer, closely followed by those who provide us with essential services, such as the police, fire brigade etc? Whilst, at the same time, those who got us into this mess (bankers) receive obscene bonuses? Presumably, from your comments, you think it's perfectly acceptable that essential care programmes to those with mental difficulties, the very old and the ill, and for programmes that are trying to get people into work should be amongst the first to be affected?

Please tell us, is this what you believe - becasue this is what is happening under a government composed largely of the privileged, the wealthy and the out of touch?

Now that is reality - not what it happening in Bozo and Blackshirt world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 02:17 PM

You really can't read, can you Blackhead?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 03:59 PM

Leveller, ALL SERVICES will face cutbacks. You really are missing the point. The legacy of the Labour Government got us into this complete and utter mess.

If you want to know who is to blame, it was Brown – first whilst in No 11 and then disastrously in No 10

It was Brown, as chancellor who allowed the banks to take more and more risk with OUR money.
It was Brown who allowed the formation of all these banks "too big to be allowed to fail"
It was Brown who, despite being in a boom, spent more than we were bringing in in tax.
It was Brown who, showing his utter incompetence in understanding the facts about economic policies, gave us boom, boom, borrow and bankrupt!

Don't start blaming the condems for Labour's incompetence.
And don't go saying "it was a global problem" -the boom was as global as the bust, but I see double standards of the worst kind: Everything that goes right is down to Labour, everything wrong is "global" – pathetic.

The reason we were so badly hit was down to Brown cuddling up with the banks knowing full well that the reserves were not sufficient but equally knowing that they had become so big that we, the tax payers, would have to bail them out when it all went pear…


Remember the 10p tax fiasco? Anyone with a GCSE in maths could tell that that was always going to prejudice the low earners.
He betrayed his office, the country and the people. Even worse, he claims to be a socialist: New Labour did absolutely nothing for the working class other than condemn them to a fate of minimum wage.

Labour supporters such as you, blinkered and bigoted, continue to come out with this rubbish in Labour's defence.


As for you Bridge, utter nonsense is all you contribute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:26 PM

Well Mr Blackshirt, I'm afraid we're never going to agree on the causes of the crisis - history will be the judge of that. As to the solution, well there are more than one available and this government has chosen the one this is likely to cause the most damage.

"Labour supporters such as you, blinkered and bigoted, continue to come out with this rubbish in Labour's defence."

As I've already pointed out if you could be arsed to get your head out of the sand, I am not and never have been a New Labour supporter - I've been a particular critic of their anti-libertarian policies - so it's totally pointless to try to have a discussion with someone who constantly distorts the facts as you do. As for bigoted - now that really is the pot calling the kettle black (oops, no pun intended). Time for you to go off and polish your jackboots, I think


"Bozo, is that another admission, this time of linkage to the moronic sociopaths responsible for fake flickr pages and similar things?"

Richard, I have to say that I think there's something very sinister about Bozo's infatuation with other people's photographs. I used to think that he was just a harmless fantasist who augmented his sad little life by inventing Walter Mitty scenarios. Now I'm beginning to think that he's some sort of perv who gets a vicarious pleasure (I wouldn't want to imagine what) from peeping into other people's lives. Let's put it this way, I wouldn't be comfortable thinking that he might be leching over photos of my wife and daughters. Ugh! It's enough to make your flesh creep.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:51 PM

I laugh again - I think leveller is getting annoyed!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:48 PM

Leveller, tell me who would you like to see in number 10 ?

Why do you and Catweasel pick on Bonzo ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:48 PM

1. I have not got and have never had a flickr page. If there was one using a colourable imitation of any name or persona of mine it was a fake created by that blackshirted political party. Funny you know about that Bozo.

2. Blackshirt - you seem to have no perspective. The liberties that Brown permitted to the banks were all concessions to conservative opposition and sweeteners to those who would otherwise have voted conservative - and were wholeheartedly supported by the conservatives whose only complaints were that they did not go further. The legacy we face is not a legacy of socialism but of capitulation to conservatism and to free market capitalism.

3. The Old Etonians would cuddle further up to the banks than New Labour ever did. If New Labour permitted a problem, then the Old Etonians would actively precipitate a catastrophe. But in fact New Labour did no worse than be caught on the hop by the selfish incompetent venality of the other Old Etonians (and US retreads) who ran the banks. If Mervyn King can see this, why can't you (oh, I forgot, he is relatively bright but you are a total dimshit)?

4. Both of you twerps forget that I do indeed know the ways of the old Etonians, the old Harrovians, the Roffensians, the other public schools against whom I played fives, played hockey, played cricket, and shot. Ironic that you tug the forelock.

5. What is hardly surprising is that you cannot understand the difference between money and class or right and wrong.

6. It is also unsurprising that you hide behind pseudonyms, but I use my real name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:05 PM

Bridge, you really are losing it. I take it this is drink talking. I DO NOT hide behind any pseudonym. I can pm you personal details if so required.

"If there was one using a colourable imitation of any name or persona of mine"
God you are so far up your own arse, why the hell would anyone want to imitate you ?

Seriously, your late night posts are an embarrassment.

Mr. Bridge, you would not drive a car while under the influence of alcohol (I hope)
Include late night phone calls, emails and forum posts to that list.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:21 PM

Come on Dickie Noir. Post your identity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 03:58 AM

"I laugh again - I think leveller is getting annoyed!!! "

Not in the least, Bozo. I's one of my relaxations exposing deviants like you. Why are you not telling us why you are so keen to see people's flickr pages? What is it that you are hiding?



"Leveller, tell me who would you like to see in number 10 ?"

Well, my heart says Caroline Lucas but I can see that that is not realistic at the moment. In the future, who knows? So, I think at this point in time I'd have to say Ed Milliband although I'd like to see a bit more of how he performs as leader of the opposition. Don't assume, in your usual arrogant way, that this implies that I support all of the policies of the Labour Party. I do, however, think that it is returning closer to its grass roots. The stance of all the major parties on civil liberties is still extremely worrying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 04:45 AM

Hello Bridge, I will give you a clue. My name is Richard Black, known as Richie as my late father was also called Richard.

Hope this helps, how is the head this morning ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 05:57 AM

"Not in the least, Bozo. I's one of my relaxations exposing deviants like you. Why are you not telling us why you are so keen to see people's flickr pages? What is it that you are hiding?"

It's interesting, as I think all will agree, just how agressive some of these raving lefties can be when others don't agree with their political views. Those of us more inclined towards Conservative ideas are wholly tolerant of the views of others.

Flickr??? Please feel free to look at the bonzo page, there are just a few photos at the moment, nothing special as I'm a late learner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:32 AM

Is the fox still visiting you Bonzo ? Here in Mottram St Andrew, we had an old fox visit our garden for years. Very grey around the mouth, the children called it Hoff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:39 AM

Not yesterday, we have placed a large rake at the point of entry with prongs facing outward until we get some more prickle strip for the top of the fence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:44 AM

Not convinced Dickie. Running Scared - hey, there's a song in there (with apologies to Johnny Preston)!

Running Scared
Loved little rich girls
Thought the poor
Should starve and die
Thought the answer
To their problems
Was that only
Rich should lie

with the background chant of

Starve the   scroungers
Starve the   scroungers


Anyone want a go at the second verse?


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Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 07:08 AM

One of my favourites,

If you all will shut your trap,
I will tell you 'bout a chap,
That was broke and up against it too,
He was not the kind to shave,
He was not the type to bathe,
But he heard the same old story everywhere.
Chorus
Tramp, tramp, tramp, keep on a-tramping,
Nothing doing here for you;
If I catch you 'round again,
You will wear the ball and chain,
Keep on tramping, that's the best thing you can do.
He walked up and down the street,
Till the shoes fell off his feet.
In a house he spied a lady cooking stew,
And he said, "How do you do,
May I convey some legal paperwork for you?"
What the lady told him made him feel so blue.
'Cross the street a sign he read,
"Singing lessons" so it said,
And he said, "Here is my chance, I'll surely try,"
And he tried to sing as he had done before,
Till his throat got rather sore,
But at bar-time he heard the Inn keeper cry–
Some time ago your guitar and vocals went bye bye.


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