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BS: Whats with the beards?

EBarnacle1 07 May 02 - 02:23 PM
Catherine Jayne 02 May 02 - 06:14 AM
GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road) 02 May 02 - 06:00 AM
Steve Parkes 02 May 02 - 03:30 AM
EBarnacle1 01 May 02 - 02:29 PM
EBarnacle1 30 Apr 02 - 03:58 PM
DonD 30 Apr 02 - 03:47 PM
Jim Krause 30 Apr 02 - 03:11 PM
Mr Red 30 Apr 02 - 03:07 PM
JenEllen 30 Apr 02 - 12:14 PM
GUEST,Desdemona at work 30 Apr 02 - 11:53 AM
Steve Parkes 30 Apr 02 - 11:46 AM
Liz the Squeak 30 Apr 02 - 09:23 AM
hesperis 27 Apr 02 - 03:27 PM
Paddy Plastique 26 Apr 02 - 06:09 AM
Little Hawk 25 Apr 02 - 12:55 PM
catspaw49 25 Apr 02 - 12:34 PM
Bullfrog Jones 25 Apr 02 - 12:25 PM
Bearheart 25 Apr 02 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,Davetnova 24 Apr 02 - 07:00 PM
hesperis 24 Apr 02 - 11:48 AM
Dave Bryant 24 Apr 02 - 10:37 AM
Watersong 24 Apr 02 - 10:23 AM
Dave Bryant 24 Apr 02 - 09:35 AM
Troll 24 Apr 02 - 09:26 AM
Liz the Squeak 24 Apr 02 - 09:12 AM
Gervase 24 Apr 02 - 05:52 AM
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Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 23 Apr 02 - 06:07 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 07 May 02 - 02:23 PM

Why such a short thread on such a long and winding subjct?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 02 May 02 - 06:14 AM

I personally like a man with a beard, or at least some designer stubble!!! It gives them a distinguished look. That is not to say that a man without a beard cannot look distinguished. It all amounts to personal preference!

cat


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road)
Date: 02 May 02 - 06:00 AM

DonD, thinking about your uneven growth(!), my beard sort of twirls towards the right --- the hair on the left tends to curl into and under the chin, while the stuff on the right curls out and away from my chin, sort of anti-clockwise. I normally keep it short enough that it doesn't notice, but from what I can recall of when I had more hair, that used to grow in a similar way. Anyone else experienced this? And do Australian beards twirl the other way?

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 02 May 02 - 03:30 AM

Vlad the Impala--oh, I get it, Liz! No, wait a minute, I don't get it ...

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 01 May 02 - 02:29 PM

Yes, it does refer to both facial and anterior!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 03:58 PM

As a 3 decade pogonophile, my beard has stood up to two governmental attacks. In the first, a feeral interviewer asked me whether I was more attached to my beard than the job he was offering me in Palo Alto. Once I responded that "it grew on me" the offer disappeared. In the other, my state hospital supervisor told me to shave it off so I could use a mask. I persuaded him that a) I wouldn't shave unless he did and b) Positive Pressure respirators (space helmets) were available as a reasonable accomodation. He got the message and I got the space helmet.

It is a pleasure only to have to touch up once a week, even though I use a hair shaper, which is a great cross between a straight razor and replacable blade.

May thy beards never grow less!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: DonD
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 03:47 PM

The US does have a bearded President -- or at least he wore one for a while after he was elected -- but that's another thread.

As to the types of beards -- unless you are so finicky that you trim it every day or two, you have different styles (well, I do) depending on the time of the day, week, month or season. Mine doesn't grow evenly on both sides, and there's a kind of windblown effect sometimes because of the grain, so when I start to trim it a little on one side, then the other side looks too long, and -- like evening the legs on a table or chair until they're flat on the ground --the beard always ends up shorter than I intended and has to grow back to a decent shape.

And then there's the Santa gig which starts growing out after Labor Day, and leads to a drastic pruning early in January.

And creeping the thread up to the top of the head for a moment -- I got fed up with the few straggling hairs on top of my bald expanse and ran the razor over it for what I thought would be nice clean look and feel. To my surprise, I developed a stubble and now have a field of upright silver stalks, like a pathetic crew cut.

All right, if you looked at me you'd say I was still bald as an egg, but I can see this furze and it's weird.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Jim Krause
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 03:11 PM

Well if it makes you feel any better DMcG, the photo in the archive is about four years old. I am beardless now.
Jim


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Subject: pedant alert!
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 03:07 PM

welcome to pogonphobia central.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: JenEllen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 12:14 PM

Ah yes, the Village-People-Leather-Biker-Moustache....(LOL Liz, Vlad the Impala?)

Well, I can't say that I'm so much emphatically anti-beard as I am pro-flesh. I happen to be a real fan of skin.

Spaw; Believe me, if they would have waxed your 'beard' instead of shaving it.....that is the pain that lingers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: GUEST,Desdemona at work
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 11:53 AM

Nearly all my male friends (including my husband) have facial hair; I guess it just sort of grows there!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 11:46 AM

I though old Vlad had a smooth chin, Liz; he made up for it with a moustache that any modern gay man would be proud of.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:23 AM

There is no correlation. There are smooth shaven nice blokes out there as well as hairy bastards.... just look at some of the threads that have been asking for help up and down this forum to prove that....

Just cos someone has a beard, doesn't mean they are a nice person.... Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper.... Rasputin..... Vlad the Impala.... Bill the Basher..... all beardies.

One of the lovliest men I ever had the pleasure of knowing was a smoothie.... but on the other hand...... when was the last time the US had a president with a beard?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: hesperis
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 03:27 PM

Bearheart - well... I was never interested in guys with beards until just recently. Always preferred them clean-shaven. (Is this the sign of a maturing taste? *g*)

So I haven't paid attention to any correlation between beard type and character, since I wasn't interested anyway.

Will the mudcat wimmen please begin my essential education on the subject? *Grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Paddy Plastique
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 06:09 AM

John from Hull,

What are the bleddy geese around Hull eating ?? Fish suppers ? Even the French call a certain shade of
green 'caca d'oie'. Far superior diet they have over here though - the poor sods.
Back to folkies Taliban tendancies - anyone else reckon it's often a compensatory measure ?
i.e.: When the aggregate amount of hair on the auld head starts dropping - ye can add on at the bottom for
what's coming off the top..
'Spaw, go easy on me breakfast, will ye, it'd prefer to stay in my stomach !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:55 PM

Never miss an opportunity, do you, Spaw, you shameless bugger! :-)

I have to mention here that some of the biggest *$$holes I have ever met in my life were men with beards, although that doesn't mean it's a given rule by any means. I recall Hart "the fart", for example...a bearded jerk I once knew in Toronto whose primary personality trait was acting like God's gift to women and throwing his (considerable) weight around while burbling double entendres of a very obvious sort to any woman in reach. Most (if not all) females detested him.

They used to say that if Hart were to take all his clothes off and stick his tongue out, you could have stood him upside-down or right-side up, and no one would have been able to tell the difference.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:34 PM

Bearheart says, "Maybe someone would be willing to start catagorizing our male members according to their beard styles..."

Well Bearheart, I didn't know you had a male member, but if those are the type of "beards" you want to talk about, I suppose we can all, male and female, talk some about our own. For instance, due to several surgeries and specifically the last one where the Heart-Lung Machine was plumbed into the aorta at the femoral artery, my "beard" there is still somewhat shorter on the right side. Outside of those surgical occasions though, I have never shaved it!

I'm interested in any other observations, specifically from the female side on this subject.........Anybody wax?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:25 PM

DonD,

I discovered the employment potential of my beard last Christmas too. Just a one-off at a local school, but it paid handsomely -- a bottle of Laphroaig 10 year old single malt! This year the beloved and I are seriously considering going at as Santa and Mrs Claus, singing some close-harmony carols. A couple I know do this and have more work than they can handle --- and they've said that they'll pass some on to us. There's money to be made!

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Bearheart
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:56 AM

I had hoped that participants in this thread would expand upon my comments-- which I thought were obvious-- since y'all are way more articulate and humorous than I.

For instance I always count on Liz for a giggle from the woman's perspective, and she always comes through with flying colors. Maybe someone would be willing to start catagorizing our male members according to their beard styles. Then we could put together a personality questionaire to see if there is truly a correlation?

Or maybe it just requires a woman with a fine intuitive sense to "read" a man's beard...

Bekki


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: GUEST,Davetnova
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 07:00 PM

For the above mentioned billingsgate ruffe and matching music try http://www.delnero.com/music/index.htm (can't do clickies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: hesperis
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 11:48 AM

Bearheart! Good to see you!

Ok, we definitely need examples complete with pictures and character analysis... take the beards of common celebrities if you don't want to embarrass your male frinds...

Please? Enquiring minds want to know!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 10:37 AM

Someone's already said that, but I've got virtually no hair on my arse (note UK spelling), and other than sporadic pruning, the hair on my face needs no cultivation whatsoever. A clean-shaven face would need much more cultivation in the shape of daily pruning !


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Watersong
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 10:23 AM

Why cultivate on your lower lip that which grows wild on my ass?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:35 AM

Liz/John, the colour of goose shite depends on what the critters have been eating, but when they've been grazing on grass and other verdant vegetation the colour is definitely green when it's fresh and slippery - I should know I've had to clean it off the boat (and gone A over A in it) enough times.

A friend of mine who has the most amazing "garden" on the top of his narrowboat, reckons that Canada Goose shite is the most incredible fertiliser anywhere - evidently geese don't digest things fully - more like compost them.

He also has a magnificent beard - I haven't dared to ask if he uses C.G.S. as a pomade !


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Troll
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:26 AM

I've had facial hair to one degree or another and longish hair for over 20 years.
Until this month. I signed a 7 mo. contract with Disney Tokyo and one of the deals was that the hair and beard had to go
They are gone and I don't look like ME any more although everyone says it makes me look years younger.
Philistines!

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:12 AM

I was in the park with the big pond on Sunday and I can catagorically state that Canada Goose shit is indeed khaki green and white. It also stinks of fishy things and has the clinging powers of your average limpet.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Gervase
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 05:52 AM

Liz, any maturity associated with the beard comes from the food particles lurking there (and possibly the goose-shit!), and most definitely not the wearer.
I don't know much about what comes out of the rear of a goose (save that it's hellishly messy) but goose-shit green is a recognised colour - ask any tailor. Comes from the days when colours had more robust names (I mean, what the f*** is 'Sunset Blush' or any one of the millions of bloody names on colour charts these days?). Much like good old DSB for painting woodwork - which, as any old-school decorator will tell you, is dark shit brown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Gray D
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 06:29 PM

Dammit, Bearheart, I thought I just had a beard. Now I don't know if its intellectual, sage, radical or what. Really! The confusion you style gurus can cause! "Mountain Man"? What about hillocks, slight elevations and the like? You'll have to explain yourself to the group.

And when it comes to being able to tell a man by his beard my missus says,"Oh no you can't". Fair do's - look who she married.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 06:07 PM

Liz-Goose shit is white/grey not green.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 05:56 PM

Ha! Nice try, Bearheart, but I still am NOT growing a beard. :-) William Shatner did fine without one, so did Crazy Horse, and I am not about to join the "hair-mouths". No siree.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 03:55 PM

Although having just found out he wears a cardigan in goose shit green (and just how does he know that?) I may have to revise my opinions....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 03:51 PM

Actually, Gervase with a beard is quite tasty... not that he wasn't alright before.... just that the facial fungus adds a little something .... mature ....... maybe...

(I'll get me coat.....)

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Bearheart
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 02:24 PM

I'm with Liz, hairy faces are it. They feel yummy. Everywhere. Stubble is not yummy. Most of the men I hang out with have stubble within hours after shaving. And it is nice to hold onto.

My husband had a beard when I met him. It was such a turn-on! I've seen him without it and he's just not as sexy, or as distinguished looking!

I don't think I've ever gotten excited by a beardless man. It's like dating an 18 year old. Beards imply wildness, experience, worldliness, depending on their style. There is the Mountain Man beard. The Chinese Sage beard. The Man-about-town/Dandy beard. The Intellectual beard. the Radical beard. Men speak volumes with their beards. It's a very important form of self-expression. Which is probably why most Mudcat guys have one.

A woman who knows her beards can gain great insight about a man by his beard.

(Sorry, beardless ones, no insult intended.)

Enjoying this thread!

Bekki


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: DonD
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 01:57 PM

I grew my first beard on a six month European ramble in 1949 ( is that the oldest beard around?) Actually, I shaved it off when I got home because my mother met me at the dock and shunned her much-missed baby -- "Come kiss me when you get that thing off your face.)

The current one only dates to about 1970, but it's been my inseparable companion ever since. (Except in dreams, from which I awake trembling in shock at having shaved it off.)

At least it's finally paying its way: I had a paying gig for the last holiday season as Santa at the oldest shopping center in the world (who knows where?) and am now memorialized with lots of little (and not so little) ones on refrigerator magnets and tree ornaments all across the area. Great fun, and I can't wait for next Labor Day when I'll start to let it grow out in all its luxurious snowiness.

I'm also considering taking part in a product test that will involve having my hair (what's left of it) and maybe my beard too -- dyed black! I expect to feel and look ridiculous, but they're paying $200!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 12:46 PM

"I have a patch that doesn't grow right under the chin" (Bill D)

So that sounds as if it is possible to go beard-bald...


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Watson
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 12:18 PM

OK Steve Parkes, to maintain the drift back.

My local pub - the Coalbrookdale Inn in ...err... Coalbrookdale celebrates St.Beard's Night on - I think - the 2nd Tuesday in January.

Everyone in the place, male and female, wears a beard, even if it's only applied with a felt pen. It really is a sight to behold when two respectable women are sitting at the bar holding a perfectly sensible conversation wearing full beards.

During the evening, the Prince and Princess of Beards are elected, and the Prince eats the ceremonial dish of spaghetti and meatballs - without cutlery... and without using his hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Devilmaster
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 12:11 PM

Actually, Clinton Hammond looked at some of my shots on my home page, and asked me never to shave again.

Not that I was going to, I just like the thought of not having to shave everyday. A trim once a week and I'm ready to go.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 11:58 AM

Plenty of preserved steam outfits over here, CB. If you ever think of coming over, we'll be happy to point you in the right directions.

Steve (unable to think of a beard connection)


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:33 AM

Hey, everyone. I apologize for the thread drift. Put it down to age. I also have WAY too much time on my hands since I've retired.

CB


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:31 AM

Awww. I thought you guys still had steam engines!

And someone MUST be standing about with paintbrush (probably spray can) in hand 'cause you should see some of the tagging and grafitti on the rail cars (except the coal cars). Some of it is a considerable improvement over what those cars normally look like.

Actually my only knowledge of trainspotting was from the film "Trainspotting". Didn't look too glamorous!

I grew up in the last days of steam. I have ridden in the cab of a yard switch engine down at the Milwaukee Road yards. Driver let me blow the whistle too! This was NOT an excursion train. The last time I saw a WORKING steam engine it was pulling a Chicago and Northwestern passenger deisel (complete with all the cars) to the yards after it had broken down. I wish I'd had a camera but I didn't know it was the last I would see. When I came back from the service, they were all gone! There were plenty still operating in France then but they were on their way out as the sleek passenger trains were all electric (the Sud Express was the only one I rode, what a thrill, all that speed!)

CB


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: GUEST,DaveTnova
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 08:04 AM

I have been cleanshaven for over fifteen years. I discovered Mudcat a few weeks ago and look in nearly every day to absorb some wisdom and maybe chuckle. To my astonishment when I found this thread I realised that in those few weeks I have grown a beard. There must be a 'fluence


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 05:16 AM

If , as I seldom do, I'm at the local (Darlington) Arts Centre and a Folk event of any sort is going on you can bet your life there'll be hardly a soul there in Nike "Designer" type gear or with Black clothing from head to foot and reeking of Patchouli oil. You will see quite a few men with beards and ladies in baggy smock type thingys. In my experience you will if joined in conversation with one of the "Folkies" be accorded civility and humour.Even if you are there for the Cannonball Adderley Tribute band. These are generalisations but there are a lot people on every music "scene" who dress the part. And long live their freedom to do so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road)
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 03:38 AM

Nigel -- trainspotting lost its glamour?!?! Never heard those words so closely conjoined! Actually, if it was as exciting as Coyote Breath makes out, we'd all be doing it (and writing songs about the crashes!) I don't think that we can adequately convey the anally retentive nature of the anoraks at the end of the platform with their little notebooks stuffed full of loco numbers to those who've never seen it. In fact, the original anoraks come from the sixties when pirate radio stations broadcast from ships anchored outside the three-mile limit. The particularly fanatical listeners who came out in dinghies to see their heroes in the flesh obviously had to dress for the conditions, and the cry would go up on board the pirate ship 'Oh no, the anoraks are back!'


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 12:04 AM

Coyote Breath -- Trainspotting may not be what you think. It generally involves somebody standing near a railroad track with a bucket of paint and a huge brush... :))


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 07:51 PM

LMAO Blues=Life!!!

"My father always told me not to cultivate on my face, that which grows wild on my ass."

Oh yeah.....that's a keeper!!!! Thanks!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Gray D
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 07:24 PM

Well now, call me pragmatic, but I grew a beard to keep my chin warm.

Driving old style, open backed, British buses with no heating in them to the top of Archer Road at 04:30 of a February morning was, how shall we say, a tad chill. When I gave up life on the road I mentioned to my missus that I was thinking of shaving it off. "Don't do that", she said, "I like the way it tickles" ;{)>

Billy Connolly said in one routine that he always thought that underneath his beard was a basically good looking young guy. When he shaved it off one day, underneath was . . . a potato.

Bill's beard is a goatee, dyed purple, these days (just watched him visit the homeland on T.V.). So who's up to following his lead then? Let's see how much more psychedelic we can make Sidmouth look this year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Rollo
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 05:46 PM

Had a clark gable moustache since first hairs grw on my upper lip. Thought that would look dandy. Then discovered (with female aid) that it just looked greasy. Started to grow untrimmed full beard then. Thought that would look wild and keen. Then discovered (with female aid) it just looked raggy. Now I trim my full beard. Think it looks - ah - dunno - looks like me. And I don't get used to the thought I should stand up earlier and scrap my chin with a blade while still having my eyes half closed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: alanww
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 03:12 PM

lucy ann: I am going to the Mudcat EuroGathering in Brussels rather than Upton. But see you at Bishops Castle!

And yet a star shines constant still ...
Love Alan


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:57 PM

catspaw49
Yes you are sick, have you consulted a therapist over this? Razor sharp wit is all very well PAL but you can take it too far!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whats with the beards?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM

between the ages of 20 and about 30, I tried almost every combination of hair length and cuts of facial hair, and took notes of reactions ....added in how hard it was to maintain and my own view of myself....and ended up the opposite of Seamus Kennedy...mutton chops!

I shave the chin, 'cause I have a patch that doesn't grow right under the chin, and it's 'different'. One cheap razor will last for many weeks, and I have light, easy to cut whiskers. Add to that the fact I have cut my own hair for the last 25 years, and I have saved enough for a tour of the Neil Young Center!


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