The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 05:59 PM

He has to secure the approval and blessing of William Shatner in order to aspire to become Grand Poohbah of the Cosmos, and it would require the issuance of a Shatneric Bull to achieve this. I don't foresee that happening, but who can say? Shatner moves in mysterious ways.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 02:51 PM

So, David, you consider yourself qualified to tell people the world over what cultural practices they may be allowed to follow (including what songs they can sing and how they must sing them), along with where they may live and work. In addition, you would restrict the activities of women even further, mandating specific sports and art forms they not be allowed to participate in, since they are intellectually incapable of making such determinations themselves. And this is for their own good, of course.

While trying to support your point by focusing on Sue Barker's taking pain-killer shots, did it ever occur to you to check on any male athletes who do the same thing? Of course not! And as far as women running the Marathon are concerned, you might take a moment or two to educate yourself on the subject: CLICKY. And I fail to see how writing a semi-impressionistic but generally incomprehensible quatrain about having seen Swan Lake and The Nutcracker makes you an authority on ballet technique.

I'm sure that women the world over will show your concern for their welfare with all of the appreciation it deserves.

There may be a reason that you don't know very many women.

Who, precisely, anointed you Grand Poohbah of the Cosmos?

God save us from the megalomaniacs of the world!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 10:50 AM

Volgadon - You asked, " shouldn't the important matter be finding out God's will"

Well, here's the way I see it.

Ah, but that's not what I asked. Frankly, I don't care about the way you see it, LH, or even the way I myself see it.

For what it's worth though, I absolutely agree with you on free will, and of what you said about relationships with people.

Volgadon - I have a spare tennis racket but no lap-top.

I have neither. What does that have to do with any of my points, which you have ignored.

LH - hearing you, I think the best way is to accept that humans are competitive, and have good regulations to make things as fair as possible..."Liberty, as surfeit, is the father of much fast" (William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure).

I see your William Shakespeare and raise you a Patrick Henry.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 07:19 AM

"And just who's going to determine what those divisions should be, David? And who is going to administer them?" (Don)...to save a search, do you remember off-hand who administered the rule/law that women could not run a marathon? Me - I'd say, as ever, each nation and the UN.

Although she may be much more on your side than mine on this matter, Sue Barker has said on the BBC that she played a lot of her matches with pain-killers injected into her wrist - tennis DOES indeed put a lot more strain on the arm than table tennis.

"In fact, one cannot engage in any activity, including the arts, without the possibility of some kind of injury. Take ballet for example. A not uncommon injury among ballerinas are stress-fractures in their lower legs caused by the unnatural act of dancing en pointe (on their toes). Would you suggest that women not be allowed to become ballet dancers?" (Don)...I've looked at this, also - Poem # 192...I'd do away with en pointe.

Volgadon - I have a spare tennis racket but no lap-top.

LH - hearing you, I think the best way is to accept that humans are competitive, and have good regulations to make things as fair as possible..."Liberty, as surfeit, is the father of much fast" (William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure).

Now for something completely different...

THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G.

Poem 163 of 230: ON A CLEAR DAY - SUMMER 2001

Far - the Lakelands behind Blackpool Tower;
    Well-ebbed - the ocean and estuary;
Odd - a sand-digger and wagons that cross;
    Tonal - the flats left by tidal power;
Patched - the grasses surviving the big tides;
    Plonked - the driftwood sprouted in other lands;
Clinging - the coastal flora to the dunes;
    Busy - the bees and folks on Southport rides.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 07:07 PM

without strings "attached", I mean...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 07:00 PM

Volgadon - You asked, " shouldn't the important matter be finding out God's will"

Well, here's the way I see it. I think God's will is simply that every sentient being in the Universe should have his or her own free will in full measure and should get the chance to make use of it, and experiment with it, and find out where it takes them....and they will thereby gain much wisdom (although gradually, in most cases). ;-)

I think God gives free will to everyone without strings attacked. I do not think God takes free will away from anyone. Law enforcement agencies, governments, courts, dictators, bullies, parents, bosses, teachers, military officers, and individual people of all kinds take free will away from many other people around them...God doesn't).

Our problem is not with God at all. Our problem is in dealing with each other.

To put it another way: Hell is other people. Heaven can be other people also, fortunately, but that takes quite a bit more work and finesse. It's very easy to destroy something valuable (like a car or a house or a relationship), but quite difficult to build or create it. Check out this forum daily for proof of what I have just said.

irishenglish - I'm beginning to think my peculiar sense of humour about the human race just doesn't click with you for some reason....

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:57 PM

Judging from some of the things he's said, I tend to suspect that David doesn't know very many women.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:07 PM

My wife cheerfully and ably lifts PA equipment when we gig. She is probably not as strong as I am but she's a damn sight fitter. We work together as equal in all respects. I would rather lift objects - amps etc - with her than with most men I know


Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 03:58 PM

Not a bad idea, if it spares us the life's work.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 03:44 PM

"...so what's wrong with SOME divisions?"

And just who's going to determine what those divisions should be, David? And who is going to administer them?

I certainly wouldn't want the job. I am sure as hell not going to try to tell women what they can and cannot do! The sweet, delicate little darlings are perfectly capable of deciding that for themselves!

The two best, most conscientious doctors I've ever had were women. My first fencing teacher was a woman. The pastor of the church I often attend is a woman.

####

True. Maria Sharapova's right shoulder was bothering her a bit, but she continued to play for some three months before her trainer then pulled her from competition. This made it necessary for her to miss several tennis tournaments, including the Beijing Olympics. An MRI showed that she had two small tears in her rotator-cuff, but they did not require surgery. She is taking the time for the injury to heal and feels she should be ready to play again in a few months.

An injury of this sort is certainly not an indictment of women's tennis. Rotator-cuff injuries are far more common among male baseball pitchers than they are among women tennis players. And there are far more elbow injuries among pitchers than among women tennis players.

Anyone—anyone—who takes part in a sport has to expect the possibility of the occasional injury. Take, for example, the incidence of repeated concussions among football players (male), including high school kids, that sometimes result in decrease cognitive ability.

In fact, one cannot engage in any activity, including the arts, without the possibility of some kind of injury. Take ballet for example. A not uncommon injury among ballerinas are stress-fractures in their lower legs caused by the unnatural act of dancing en pointe (on their toes). Would you suggest that women not be allowed to become ballet dancers?

And by the way, Maria Sharapova's rotator cuff injury may not have been a result of her playing tennis. I suffered a small rotator cuff tear some years ago merely by inadvertently sleeping on my shoulder in an awkward position. It healed up within a fairly short time.

Naturally you should not be recklessly foolhardy, but if you allow fear of possible injury to rule your life, you would never get out of bed.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 01:39 PM

I am NOT C. of E., so could care less about a female archbishop, but shouldn't the important matter be finding out God's will, rather than feminism?

The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't have much heavy lifting to do, not does he engage in much sports, so of course Wav doesn't mind a woman in the role.

Wav, what in a woman's life takes the most toll of her femininity (as defined by you)?

Ready for the answer? Childbirth. Should none become mothers because they might balloon up and develop strong arms?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:32 PM

IE - I thought I gave a frank answer...and is the facet of my belief that I'd be genuinely happy for the next Archbishop of Canterbury to be a female really that "backward"? Perhaps you do know that a lot are STILL against the idea and only chose to ignore that bit because you couldn't bare to agree on anything..? On average, men are naturally physically stronger, yes?...so what's wrong with SOME divisions?

And will LH finally win Winona we wonder..?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 08:06 AM

NO LH. I'm arguing with a guy who shares his backward views in life and how he thinks life should be on a public forum. SOmething tells me you probably don't agree with him much LH. Do YOU think women are better suited to table tennis to use one of WAV's beliefs? Probably not. Is it such a fucking problem for me to say WAV-you're wrong. Here's why I think you're wrong. Is it wrong for me to ask him to elaborate on why he thinks that way? Think whatever you want LH. I see myself arguing with someone who still wishes it was 1877, and wants life to revert back to that state. Enough said.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 07:52 AM

Admit it, people...you're all just arguing with WAV because it gives you some'at to do.

That's why I post here. It's better than staring at the walls and wondering when Winona will call. ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 07:24 AM

Bollocks WAV. You once again twisted your answer to avoid really answering the question. "Tennis is a very masculine game" Really? Except for a history of the sport being played long ago by both men and women. You are complaining about the modern conditioning of all atheletes, both men and women. Does this end with tennis players only or does it include women atheletes in other sports who are in fabulous condition? Track and field? Gymnastics? Figure Skaters? How chivalrous of you to make a determination that a woman can't lift something heavy and therefore needs your help. Here's the reality as I see it. Not only do you have questionable views on music, immigration, and race, you have a verifiable bias towards women's equality. While most of us view the awesome athleticism of top women's athelete's in a variety of sports, you scorn them. While most of us recognize that women are immensely capable of any type of work, you seek to subvert them and 'lift that heavy box for them.' But I guess women working out, or doing physical work is a turn off for you what with all the 'bulging muscles.' You never cease to amaze me in your backward ways. I'm almost speechless at times with your views, that someone in 2008 could hold them.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:49 AM

"WAV, far be it from to question the integrity of your chosen medium to deliver your,er, 'unique' , um, 'content' to the world but I can't help but notice at least two of your friends on your MySpace site are actually dead. How the fuck did they do that then? They were in the ground when MySpace was just an itch on Margaret Thatcher's left bollock?" (Stigweard)...firstly, no need to swear, my friend!; for a while I avoided myspace
"Friends" (who are really just links) whose Spaces are definitely not mangaged by the person they present...but then I changed my mind and treated them more as links to some good stuff.

Don - last I heard Maria Sharapova was still out of action with a bad shoulder injury..?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 04:40 AM

He gets his maiden auntie to do them up for him each morning...besides which, did you know that he was last August's "cover boy" for Wankers' Monthly Magazine?

Wrong, wrong, wrong, LH - my shoelaces are done up each morning by Granma McAlatia - and whilst the cheque for the Wankers' Monthly cover shoot came in very handy indeed, of course I don't take the magazine myself, ahem, preferring as I do the far classier German quarterly Sich Abzapfen. Nice to know it gave someone someone some pleasure anyway...

Keep watching the skies!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 10:44 PM

Yeah, I'll take your fockin' Vinnie and raise you two Big Pauley's. Say, about the fish......I heard someone say once that for the right amount, they'd go underwater and fuck fish. I think it was Wavy's Mom.....................

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 10:36 PM

That is no way to talk about a future relative and in-law, Spaw!

Whasamattah you? You wanna meet my big bruddah, Vinnie, is dat what youse want? You wanna go talk to da fishes?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 09:50 PM

"...one big round thingy that goes round in circles.."

Much like his Mumsy's ass at a piano bar.............

So Wavyshriveledscrotum..........Why not do as Hawk says and send your dear mother around?   Make it in the spring in Cleveland so she can be plugged by all the Lake's sailors before the season gets busy. Then all the guys on the Duluth run can pick up their penicillin scrip as they pass through the Soo.

Is it true your Mom has the longest running case of the clap in recorded history?

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,VOlgadon
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:22 PM

But we've already been through it, Wav's ways are one big round thingy that goes round in circles..

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 06:49 PM

LOL! Great pictures, Don! Geez, so we've added rampant male chauvinism to the list of WAV's sins, have we? Hot damn.

I think we are entering a whole new fertile area of controversy here, and I look forward to it. This is even better than the "Bat Boy" stories in "Weekly News of the World", I swear!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 05:36 PM

Russian tennis star Maria Sharapova. Maria again. And again. Nah. Just doesn't cut it in the femininity department, I guess. Obviously, women tennis players are just too muscular to be feminine. And Russian women in particular.

Well, how about any of these ladies?   Maybe these?   Just too many bulging muscles to be considered feminine.

These women should learn to keep their proper place. In the kitchen and in the bedroom!

Lookout, David! Here it comes!    WHAP!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:38 PM

WAV, far be it from to question the integrity of your chosen medium to deliver your,er, 'unique' , um, 'content' to the world but I can't help but notice at least two of your friends on your MySpace site are actually dead.

How the fuck did they do that then? They were in the ground when MySpace was just an itch on Margaret Thatcher's left bollock?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:27 PM

You do me great honor, Spaw. Thanks, man! Y'know, I've been thinking too that it would be really great if you could meet WAV's Mum sometime and she could get to know your family and you could get to know hers. Then, a little bit farther down the road, one of your children could marry one of WAV's children (I'm hoping and assuming he has some progeny) thus cementing an impermiable bond between your family lines, a bond that could be expected to produce heirs to your shared familial tradition unto time imemorial.

Whaddya think about that?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:26 PM

"strain on the elbows. I want to know why." (IE)...look at all the strapping and bulged veins on the ladies tour:
Tennis is a very masculine game, and the more masculine someone becomes by hitting lots of balls, and doing weights, the better they will be - unless they begin to get the injuries. Table tennis, on the other hand, if you'll pardon the pun, is much more about reflex, and the very top female players can keep their femininity - you may have noticed this during the olympics. I want to add, as I did on the still alive "Anyone for tennis?" thread, that I'd be quite happy, though, to work as a production manager under a female MD, or for the next Archbishop of Canterbury to be a female. However, if on a shop-floor I noticed a female about to lift a 25kg of raw material, I'd stop her and do it myself.
I've also admitted that pro female tennis players probably would beat me with my clubfoot and relatively slow court speed - but that is not the point, if you'll pardon another pun.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:03 PM

Not willing to take my good advice and publicly confess your many sins, WAV? Well, I'm saddened by that. I was only trying to spare you another few years of extreme personal abuse here, but...well...perhaps you enjoy it? Who am I to say?

Anyway, pay no attention to what Insane Beard says. Of all the maleficent and gormless pitiable maundering jadrools in the world, he is the king. The man can't even tie his own shoes, for God's sake! He gets his maiden auntie to do them up for him each morning...besides which, did you know that he was last August's "cover boy" for Wankers' Monthly Magazine?

Yes, indeed. His name says it all. Insane Beard. The pity of it is that even if he shaved the damn thing off, the insanity would still remain. ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:22 AM

Well, even if Scottish independence happens (unlikely, IMHO)there will certainly still be English people like Maggie living in Scotland, so I'm not entirely sure what the point was of bringing up the fact that she lives there.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:20 AM

NO WAV, you have never elaborated why you feel, as you say, females are better suited for table tennis. Your blog does not elaborate on it either, rather, it just says that females are better suited for table tennis because of "strain on the elbows." I want to know why. You post your material on here to foster some type of discussion. Let me, and all the fine and amazing women who post on this forum know why you feel women are so ill suited to play a sport. Let me know why you feel they are better suited towards table tennis. Let me know how on earth you could say that with such amazing women tennis players as the Williams Sisters, Martina Navratilova, Chris Everett, Monica Seles, Steffi Graf, Lindsey Davenport, Martina Hingis, Billie Jean King. Let me know how you come to this decision in 2008 after the Women's Singles Champions were contested for the first time in the following years:

Australia-1922
French-1897
US Open-1887
Wimbledon-1884

Well...would you look at that, Wimbledon decided 114 years ago that women deserved their own championship match. By the way, the first men's championship at Wimbledon took place only seven years before that, in 1877.

So please WAV, answer how with a tradition in the modern era of equality for women and men as players of the sport, do you come by a stance that says women aren't suited to play the sport, rather they should be playing table tennis. Who are you to make a judgement on it anyway, with some of the most popular tennis players in the world being, in fact, women? You want to tell Venus and Serena that they should be making the switch indoors to table tennis? I said it before, but I'm quite certain that the lowest ranked woman on the pro circuit would beat you handily WAV.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 06:28 AM

Thanks for that effort LH, but, as you can see from IB's post straight after, it didn't work - I, and I'm sure Scottish Nationalists, don't want or expect a "blood bath" as these isles move toward independent friendly-rival republics.
IE - are you sure we haven't covered that "ANYONE for Tennis?" matter...but my stance is on my myspace TENNIS TIPS TO TRY blog, if you'd like a recap.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 02:49 AM

"the archetypal Whinging Pom?" (Gervase)....where you from?
England. Now living in Wales. And your point is?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 11:06 PM

Hawkster, I am very proud of you. First I admire your tenacity in pointing out the obvious on this thread but we're all having such a good time and Wavy is such a limp dick that no one is listening!

But I am equally proud and pleased to see you have broadened your vocabulary.   I was a happy camper when you began using mamalucca which some witlesss jerkwad accused me of inventing! Now you have added another which the same ignorant nutsack licker claimed I had also "made up." Your new word is, as you know, one of my very favorites......."Jadrool."(basically meaning a worthless bum)    Lovely piece of Dago slang I heard from my earliest days. I remember Charlie Gardena using it in reference to a local jerk when I was about 6 and my Dad chastising him. As I recall the the conversation went:

Charlie: "Damn Unk, J__ S________ is the dumbest fockin' jadrool in the county."
The Ol' Man: "Geeziz Keericed Charlie.....Watch your gawdamn language. Ya' gotta' watch what the hell ya' say around the boy or his Momma will have my ass."

Obviously my Dad wanted to keep my mind pure and his ass safe.


I don't really want Walksaboutcrapping to leave. I want him to bring his Mum over for a chat. She might have a bone to pick with me, so to speak. I figure she's busy right now though going down on Joe the Plumber.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:04 PM

That's a real temptation, Ruth. Thank you for the invitation, and I really wish I could take you up on it.

My circumstances right now make it very unlikely, but who knows what the future may bring? Again, thank you!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 09:56 PM

Hey!

Quasimodo was one of the good guys! He may not have been pretty to look at, but he had a good heart. and he had a great sense of humor. At times he had a hard time keeping a straight face.

Quasimodo and I worked together, climbing all over tall cathedrals, ringing bells, and rescuing gypsy girls from lecherous priests.

So I knew Quasimodo.

Quasimodo was a friend of mine.

And WAV is no Quasimodo!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:42 PM

IB, maybe WAV is hoping for the blancmanges to turn all of England into Scots (an old Monty Python episode for any of you shaking your head now asking wtf?). Unlike the ending of that episode though, WAV is probably ensuring that it won't be a woman in the finals of Wimbledon, since WAV believes (and this is from his own writings mind you) that women are better suited to table tennis rather than tennis. I want to really know WAV, how you think this-for real? I know you play some tennis, but why do I get the feeling that the lowest ranked woman on the pro circuit probably would kick your ass? Why are they better suited to table tennis? Please explain that. People in your opinion are trying to "get" you on racism, but I really want to know about this. There are an awful lot of women here on mudcat, and saying to all of them effectively that you think they are better suited to the sport of table tennis (which by the way, when played at the professional level is no walkover of a sport) is, I think, a real slap in the face. Explain, without resort to a god damn poem.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:36 PM

what will the good folk of Paris do with their spare time when Quasimodo is gone?

We'll be you, LH - watching the skies for little green men in their AFOs...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:32 PM

soon to be independent republic: Scotland.

I think Wavy believes that Scottish independence will result the expulsion of all non-Scottish nationals and a mass exodus of Scots from England back to their motherland. The extent to which Scotland and England interface on a cultural level will never change; most of my friends in Scotland are English, and most of my Scottish friends live in England. No doubt you're hoping for a rise of fevered nationalism leading to a blood bath of civil war and ethnic cleansing, but people will be too busy getting on with their lives to notice.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:24 PM

Look, I know how you can end all this, WAV.

Just get down on your knees weeping in abject surrender and ADMIT that you're a racist, a child molester, a wife-beater, a bad driver, a really terribly bad poet, a moral leper, a witless jackoff, a contemptible jadrool, an insult to all western civilization, and a complete disgrace to humanity.

Apologize for even having been born.

Then demand that an international trial be held, similar to Nuremberg, and that you be condemned to summary execution after owning up to your evilness, and that your remains be then tossed to the jackals.

And swear to never post on this forum again.

And take down your website and burn all your writings.

Have your name erased from the Book of Days. Cease to be.

If you do all of the above, then the righteous assembly of your betters here will all have a giant collective orgasm, after which they will all have to lie down and rest for a bit.

Ah. Won't it be lovely? Good shall once again triumph over evil and the peaceable kingdom be restored.

*****

One thing worrisome about it, though...what will the good folk of Paris do with their spare time when Quasimodo is gone?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:17 PM

Come on over, Don. Seriously - I've got a big ol' house and more bedrooms than I know what to do with. I could take you to some great places if you wanted to visit traditional events, or go to sessions or festivals - whatever. It's all I'm ever doing anyway!

It would be my pleasure. :)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:08 PM

"the archetypal Whinging Pom?" (Gervase)....where you from?

"Here is a question. Say you managed to get capitalist migration stopped. Now all those people in this 'rotten old world' who depended on income from jobs in other countries are left without even that. Now what? You say you are concerned about people and about inequality in the world, so how are they to be helped?" (Volgadon)...I've answered that by pointing out how all the economic/capitalist immigration/emigration of the last century has NOT solved the rotten inequality in our world, and suggested, rather..

Poem 105 of 230: GLOBAL REGULATIONISM

No income-scale would be unjust -
    It's a matter of degree;
And, to have less inequality,
    Regulations are a must.

For, in Millennium's status quo,
    The pay-gaps for human work,
And what's gotten simply as a perk,
    Are wrong - inhumanely so.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Don - good to notice you just avoided the use of "Brits" (Stu) and used, rather, England, Scotland, and the British Isles.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM

Thank you, Stu. No apologies necessary. I have been something of an anglophile all my life and I regret that I have never had a opportunity to visit England, or the British Isles in general (my great grandfather came from Scotland). I believe I could live in England quite happily, and I know my wife could. What a varied and fascinating country!

And I'm certainly not going to judge a country or its people by the behavior of one village idiot.

And thank you for posting those links, Volgadon. I can hardly believe that the reunion concert that Bob and I did was over a year ago. And blessings all over John Ashford's grandson, Jordan. He can write my concert reviews any time he wants!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:47 PM

Deflection? Please do elaborate...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:35 PM

RE Don Firth.
http://pnwfolklore.org/AboutPNWF.html
http://www.stewarthendrickson.com/VictoryMusic/December-MusicalTrad_FirthNelsonConcert.html

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:26 PM

Don

I have no need to check your vocal and instrumental quality. I apologise for WAVs remarks on behalf of all right minded Brits.

Also Sean, I too found WAVs remarks to you in the worst of taste - even for him

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:56 PM

Here is a question. Say you managed to get capitalist migration stopped. Now all those people in this 'rotten old world' who depended on income from jobs in other countries are left without even that. Now what? You say you are concerned about people and about inequality in the world, so how are they to be helped?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:36 PM

All WAV seems to be able to do now is stamp his foot and repeat the tautologous phrase "False and Defamatory". Bollocks - he's nailed his colours to the mast as a racist, and now wriggles and whinges when it's picked up.
So, if it's defamatory, then sue. You should be able to find a solicitor to look over a print-out of the thread and give you some cheap advice under the 15-minute session basis, or even pro-bono. Or go to your local CAB.
You might not like what you hear.
But, for Pete's sake, stop bloody whinging. Or are you trying to be the archetypal Whinging Pom?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:28 PM

Well . . . I tried.

David Franks, you are pathetic.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:43 PM

Lessee here................I'm reviewing the 4 paragraphs of my 7:53AM post.......................Hmmmmm........The first paragraph is completely factual......................Second is also.........Third one is right on the nose, no problem there...........................Now in the 4th I may have been wrong about your Mumsy.....Perhaps it was the yak that had syphilis.......

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:33 PM

Is there a drug that could make John McCain speak like catspaw?

Man could I have fun with that drug and a spray bottle.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:18 PM

Catspaw - more false and defamatory words from you.
IE - if you look, it was IB who decided to call my life's work
a "manifesto."
If RSC is Ruth Archer/Joan Crump, then more false and defamatory remarks from her (as well as deflection, this time).