Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 02:37 PM

Good point Stu. The fact that the person intended to be insulted is dead (using the term "person" loosely) is not a defence, as some of the twats who pretend that she had virtues or deserved respect are bound to think themselves insulted.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 02:20 PM

I realise that apologising isn't flavour of the month with certain parties to this thread. Nevertheless, I feel I must tender an apology to anyone who has been bored out of their skull by the cyberspacial intercourse between MtheGM and I.

I can only reach an approximate surmisal as to what might be rattling M's cage, although it's probably the usual one of hands off our establishment figures.

However, those of us who grew up on Merseyside, with no arses to our kecks (thats trousers to you M) and malnourished by a diet of blind scouse and dripping butties, have been partying non-stop since 11am "last Monday morning" (as Leadbelly and Iron Head Baker were wont to sing).

Normal service might be resumed - eventually.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stu
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 02:03 PM

"SINCE WHEN DID WE NEED PERMISSION FOR THAT?"

Since this delightful piece of legislation. Sections 4 and 5 allow coppers to arrest people at will, under conditions that are open to individual interpretation to say the least. It was amended after an outcry and the word 'insulting' was taken out, but the rest remains and it id deliberately ambiguous.

The police force we have now was born under Thatcher during the miner's strike and the assault on travellers and their families at The Battle of the Beanfield (which was more of a 'coppers smack some hippies about' than a battle). The paramilitarisation of the police continued under all subsequent governments until we've arrived at this fiasco. They are now a tool for imposing the will of the oligarchy rather than a service dedicated to protecting the rights of all citizens. More's the pity too.*



* I know there are good coppers, that's not the point.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:59 PM

I'd be rather cheered if some proper rioting broke out, something for the history books to record to show that all this disgustingly expensive show of pomp and circumstance of was not welcomed or wanted.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:58 PM

Ding dong dell,
Thatcher's gone to Hell.
Who put her there,
Who the F###k cares,
Who'll pull her out,
Nobody's about.
She made the poor, she made the rich
A callous, greedy, Ding Dong Witch.
Now Big Ben's quiet, no more Ding Dong
So let us all unite in song ..
Ding Dong the Witch is dead!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:37 PM

I note that the police have stated that protesters are allowed to turn their backs as the coffin passes. SINCE WHEN DID WE NEED PERMISSION FOR THAT? WHAT HAS BECOME OF THIS COUNTRY?

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stu
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:12 PM

They're silencing Big Ben for the funeral. This is taking the piss. Are they trying to rub everybody's nose in it? Streuth.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Penny S.
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:17 AM

Can I draw people's attention to the Matching Thatcher's Funeral thread, where something useful migh tbe accomplished.

Penny

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:06 AM

... I mean, that is what I would call 'throwing a wobblie'. I don't throw such things myself, tho I might just occasionally indulge in rational and coherent disputation!...

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:03 AM

OK, then ~~ so answer the question ---

···why you suddenly, and with no motivation or stimulus, jumped self-defensively on to a thread on which you had not been attacked, or even mentioned, and started laying into me···

Nothing to do with sacred cows, or whoopie cushions, or icky-wickles, or whevs. It is just odd behaviour in anybody's book ~ isn't it? ~ which you really should explain. So why don't you?

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 10:06 AM

M. Come off it. You're the one who throws a wobbler when any of his sacred cows is attacked.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 08:19 AM

Relax, Fred. Is it really worth all this animus, honestly?

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 07:51 AM

You're right M. I don't get it - the apology that is. It's a good thing I'm not in the habit of holding my breath.

Whoopee? You dare to criticise me for using the word whoopee? Considering some of the ludicrous baby-talking terminology you've splashed all over this forum, that is pretty damned rich.

What is an icky-wickle duckling andyway?. Is it anything like an icky·wicky·bitty-self, honeybun?

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 06:11 AM

Sorry, Fred, but you are just not getting it. Don was simply querying, as was I, as to why you had suddenly, and with no motivation or stimulus, jumped self-defensively on to a thread on which you had not been attacked, or even mentioned. He hasn't made any mistake or been 'wrong' about anything, just suggested a possible answer to a reasonable question WHICH YOU HAVE SO FAR AVOIDED ANSWERING. You are, so far as that goes, the one who is 'wrong'. So why don't you 'just' answer ~~~ if you can spare the valuable time from your silly old 'whoopees'. What do you think you are ~ a trick cushion? ☺☺☺

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 05:55 AM

Ignoring the usual tirade of twists and turns from Mr W (wouldn't it be easier just to admit you were wrong and then we could all move on?), as far as I can make out the news was announced just before 11am on 08.04.13. In other words, the evil woman has been dead for exactly one whole week!

Whoopee!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 04:25 PM

""Then why accuse me of posting under the name of Jasper Broadbent when you have absolutely nothing to link me with the poster who uses that alias.

The answer is in your own hands. Apologise for accusing me of posting under the name of Jasper Broadbent and the problem goes away.""

No mate, the answer is in the way you responded when Mike had a go at Jasper.

You dived in as though he had personally atacked you, which automatically raises suspicions as to who exactly you are defending.

Your own doing sir!

Don T.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:31 PM

300. Well it would be if McG hadn't repeated himself. Well, perhaps it needed saying twice.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:28 PM

No, it doesn't start with personality - but personality is often the the key that can be applied to achieve political ends. Right now the game being played by those in power is to use the reconstructed personality as a key to unlocking certain political attitudes which would make to get people on side for that vile politcal ends.

It's theatre, but theatre can make an enormous difference. The tribute to the NHS at the Olympics opening was pure theatre, and it had a considerable political impact at the time.
...........

Yes, we differ about the 1945 government, M - I grew up looking back at it as a good time. Even sweet rations meant I got more sweets, because my parents gave me theirs. Wrecked my teeth... We were pretty clearly skint as a country, and rationing made sense because it put us all on the same level, in contrast to what is called "austerity" today which most decidedly does not.   

The pity was that an electoral quirk put the Tories in to relax things, rather than a second-half Labour government, but that's how it worked out. And it was Tories on their best behaviour, more or less, for another generation.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:27 PM

Ding Dong! It's reached No 2!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:52 PM

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Margaret Thatcher 'gave her approval' to her son Mark's failed coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea

Unpublished version of memoir by former SAS officer Simon Mann records Baroness Thatcher's endorsement of plan to depose oil-rich country's president

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Simon Mann at the time of his arrest on charges of trying to topple the president of Equatorial Guinea. Photograph: Getty Images

Margaret Thatcher approved of a failed attempt to use an army of mercenaries to overthrow the president of Equatorial Guinea, according to the unpublished memoirs of the chief protagonist of the bid, former SAS officer Simon Mann.

The former prime minister, whose son, Sir Mark, was convicted in a South African court of involvement in the attempted 2004 coup, allegedly told Mann at a meeting at her Belgravia home: "I'm sure it's going to work".

It is claimed that Thatcher likened the need for radical change in the oil-rich Equatorial Guinea to the way London's Docklands had been redeveloped during the 1980s.

She is also alleged to have encouraged Mann to talk to a group seeking to overthrow the then president of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, with the words: "We must always look after our friends, Simon … as I'm sure you know."

In an affair known as the Wonga coup, Mann and 69 mercenaries attempted to replace Equatorial Guinea's dictator Teodoro Obiang with an exiled opposition politician, Severo Moto, in March 2004. The escapade went dramatically wrong and led to Mann being convicted and imprisoned.

Mann, whose father was George Mann, captain of the England cricket team in the 1940s, was pardoned and released from the regime's notorious Black Beach prison in 2009, on humanitarian grounds.

Sir Mark attempted to avoid implication in the illegal coup, but was found guilty by a court in South Africa, where he was living at the time, of having provided finance for helicopters to be used in the overthrow. He was fined $500,000 and given a four-year suspended prison sentence.

On his release from prison, Mann said he could never forgive Sir Mark, who he claimed was a key participant in the military adventure rather than a mere investor, for failing to come to his aid. Details of the meetings between Mann and Baroness Thatcher, held in the lead-up to the attempted coup, were originally due to be published in Mann's memoir, Cry Havoc, which came out in 2011. This section was removed on the advice of the publisher, John Blake. However, an early manuscript of the book has been obtained by the Observer and its full claims can be revealed for the first time.

Thatcher's mental capacity was already on the wane in 2003 – the year her husband, Denis, died – when the conversations are said to have occurred. Their content will prove embarrassing for her son as he prepares for his mother's funeral on Wednesday.

Mann had known Thatcher for a number of years by this time: the two were introduced by Sir Mark, who was a neighbour of his in Cape Town. Recording a meeting that took place in the first-floor sitting room of Thatcher's home in Chester Square, in London's Belgravia, in autumn 2003, Mann says it became clear that the former Tory leader knew and approved of the plans for the Equatorial Guinea coup, describing them as "jolly good".

He writes: "Maggie asks me how 'their' money is being handled. I reassure her that it is going through an air ambulance joint venture, separate to any other investment. Maggie talks about the Docklands redevelopment in London. How everything had to be razed to the ground first."

In a later conversation in South Africa, Thatcher is said to have commented: "I do hope you'll be getting on with this job of yours soon, Simon. We mustn't let anyone down, must we?"

Thatcher is also said to have asked whether Mann had yet met a group, led by a man called Sanchos, who were seeking to remove Chávez from Venezuela. Mann writes: "No – I hadn't: but, Mark says, we are seeing him next day, in Eaton Place, just next door."

He continues with Thatcher's reply: "'Good. Well, I hope that goes well too.' She looked at me with her imperial gaze. 'We must always look after our friends, Simon … as I'm sure you know.'"

Mann declined to comment.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: billybob
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:51 PM

Quite simple, dont go to London on Wednesday, dont turn your TV on or radio, play some calming music and let your blood pressure stay safely low. Or you could do what I am doing, go to work, have a nice glass of wine in the evening and pretend it isnt happening! Because either way ,if you condemn her supporters or the protesters you will get cross and get indigestion. Come on boys calm down!!

Karma

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:50 PM

Mr Mcgrath.....The problem as I see it is, why personalise a problem which is purely systemic.
We live in a capitalist country, and Capitalism requires to be competitive to survive.....sure this means casualties, but the system cares nothing for human detriment....only profit.

Personalising this issue gives the impression that if we remove the leader, it will change the nature of the system.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:49 PM

McGrath ~~ we shall just have to differ about the govt of 1945-51, which achieved nothing so far as I can see except enormous resentments and the death of any hope of a socialist government [as distinct from PMs like gabby Kinnock, chummy-daddy Callaghan, face-both-ways Blair] in perpetuity. Austerity, as the 1950 & then 1951 results should clearly demonstrate to anyone claiming to be a democrat, was not what the demos wanted or welcomed or felt entitled to after six years of 'the war effort'.

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:41 PM

"If you're anywhere near Liverpool, there is to be a massive street party on St George's Plateau"
.,,.
Shall be interested to see how 'massive' it turns out to be. Those held so far [see pix I posted above] have been a fair old let-down massivity-wise, haven't they!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:22 PM

McG. Quite. The current chaotic state of the economy is directly traceable back to her, so are the policies of the present government. Yet, while millions of people see their living standards slashed, this self same government can afford to spend ten million quid giving her what is in essence, if not in name, a state funeral. Rank bloody hypocrisy.

SteveMansfield "Who's up for a flashmob playing 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' somewhere?"

If you're anywhere near Liverpool, there is to be a massive street party on St George's Plateau in Lime Street (opposite Lime Street station) this coming Wednesday from 6pm. We can safely conclude that Ding Dong The Witch is Dead will be played not once, but many times. We can safely conclude also that I will have the mother and father of all hangovers the following morning.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 12:55 PM

If she was having a respectful burial, the same as everyone else, I doubt if quite such a head of hostility would have built up. But hundreds of escorting troops, a solemn procession through the streets of London, heads of state and high dignatories in St Paul's, the queen in attendance. That's not "respectful". It invites something stronger than dignified silence from those whose stomach turns over at the very thought.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 12:33 PM

The operative word being hag presumably?

What's particularly bugging me at the moment are the cries of "Show respect for the dead" which seem to be coming from all corners of the establishment. "Yes", they say, "She may have done many harsh and cruel things in her time, but she deserves a respectful burial, the same as everyone else."

Respectful burials? Would that include Fred and Rosemary West, Harold Shipman, Jimmy Savile and all the other people who were shunned by humanity as unworthy of respectful burials?

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 12:17 PM

The bizarre thing is how those waxing indignant (lovely expression that one, it deserves to be revived) at expressions of derison and contempt towards Thatcher at this time fail to appreciate that those of us who see her in that way feel precisely the same about the chorus of expressions of adulation in the media.

Respect toward someone who has died is one thing, but hagiolatry, and in this case Maggiolatry, is something else. It invites an equivalent response.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 10:51 AM

It never fails to fascinate me how Maggieites invariably shuffle around her unqualified support of Pinochet and her description of those who wanted to put him on trial - "to forgive is divine" I suppose!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 10:05 AM

"Then why accuse me of posting under the name of Jasper Broadbent when you have absolutely nothing to link me with the poster who uses that alias."
.,,.
Feel bound to point out, Fred, in support of Don, that he was simply responding to my asking why you had answered "I have not gone away" when I said that someone quite recognisable in the context as Jasper Broadbent had gone away. He was only suggesting a possible reason; and, although you have graciously accepted my apology for the misunderstanding, you still have not explained your answering there a point which had not been raised, and I am still greatly exercised as to why you should have done so. I mean, WHY did you suddenly appear on the thread to post "I have not gone away", when nobody had suggested that you had, or even mentioned you?

It is all becoming more and more incomprehensible, more and more complicated, and more & more mysterious. Think I'll just go back to Stoke City & Man Utd!

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 09:56 AM

Austerity in the years after the war was, to the best of my knowledge, intended to be applied across society, and very much preferentially against the rich. We really were in hard times following the war. Keeping on with rationing wasn't an arbitrary matter of stopping people enjoying themselves, it was a desperte and largely effective way of ensuring that we were in real terms "all in it together".

In spite of all that the government managed to introduce major improvements to the way society operated. And in the election which brought the end of the Lanour Government, Labour actually had more votes han the victors.

It was the best government we've had in my lifetime.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 08:13 AM

Then why accuse me of posting under the name of Jasper Broadbent when you have absolutely nothing to link me with the poster who uses that alias.

The answer is in your own hands. Apologise for accusing me of posting under the name of Jasper Broadbent and the problem goes away.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 07:49 AM

""Perhaps, in the ordinary run of things, I could have expected an apology from Mr Wyziwyg. Perhaps, considering the person I was dealing with, I was right not to hold my breath.""

It's worth pointing out, Fred, that we can only react to what we read on our screens, so it's hardly our fault when somebody abuses another poster's ID.

The answer is in your own hands. Become a member and that problem goes away.

Simples!

Don T.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stu
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 07:10 AM

"Sugarfoot ~~ Click on Edit in the header menu, and you should find "Special Characters" as the last option."


Brilliant! Thanks very much for the help MtheMG 👍

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 06:43 AM

Thank you Mr MGM. Can we expect a similar apology from Don T Wyziwyg?

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 06:33 AM

Perfectly happy to apologise insofar as I might have been responsible for that confusion in that case, Fred; but must add that I still cannot see why, when I was clearly referring to Mr Broadbent and had had no sort of dealing, pro or anti, with you for several years, you had to jump in to inform me that you "hadn't gone away" when nobody had in no way suggested that you had, or even made any reference to you. No wonder Don's suspicions were aroused by this.

I am finding the whole of this 4-way exchange increasingly puzzling and confusing.

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 06:20 AM

Right. Let's get one thing straight. I am not Jasper Broadbent and I have never used that pseudonym on Mudcat or anywhere else.

I might remind Don, it's not so long ago that he accused me of posting a highly offensive comment on another thread. I don't know what the posting said because it was removed before I had chance to read it. Even so, one of the Mudelves killed Mr Wyzywig's accusation stone dead by pointing out that it was posted by someone other than me.

Perhaps the said Mudelf would be good enough to check the Internet Protocol source of Mr Broadbent's postings and confirm that they are not coming from me.

Perhaps, in the ordinary run of things, I could have expected an apology from Mr Wyziwyg. Perhaps, considering the person I was dealing with, I was right not to hold my breath.

I would be very careful, the pair of you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:49 AM

Well, Don, now so many hours have passed, it seems you might at that have been right about the true identity of 'J Broadbent' ~~ & Fred's post denying that he had 'gone away' might appear to confirm it. If this really is the case, then how pathetic. Could Fred really have gone to all the trouble of inventing a new fictitious persona, for, it would appear, the sole purpose of attacking me? Can it truly be the case? Certainly nobody has denied it yet, in either persona. If so, I say again, how pathetic! But, from my pov, how really quite flattering!

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 04:09 PM

"Ding Dong" seems to have taken feet of its own.
A huge anti-austerity demonstaration incuded banners which said "Ding dong, the witch ain't dead, she's moved into Leinster House (home of the Irish Parliament.
Aghhhh - she lives on - MacColl always claimed she was one of the undead!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 03:19 PM

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Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 03:11 PM

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Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 03:05 PM

But there's an upside, that you can make idiots foam at the mouth just by saying 'ding dong'."...
.,,.
Come clean now, Mr Sprocket ~~ have you actually said "Ding dong" to amyone and found them foam at the mouth in response? Or really seen anyone foaming at the mouth under such stimulus. Honest now. I have just asked my wife to say "Ding dong" to me, but my lips remain resolutely dry...

Everyone out there

pay attention please

DING DONG

☝☝☝☝☝-UP if you are foaming at the mouth.

Come on now!

Anyone?

Hmmmmmmm ~ thought not...

☺〠☺~M~☺〠☺

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 01:34 PM

I think you are too young to have been around at the time, Dick. Two jokes doing the rounds at the time that I recall:

An empty taxi pulled up outside 10 Downing Street and Mr Attlee got out.

"Ah, the country wouldn't be in this mess if poor old Attlee was alive!"

I don't altogether disagree with your assessment of him; but he failed, coming back in 1950 with barely a majority, after that astonishing nearly 50% he had achieved in 45, and losing the next election, inevitably, only a year later.

He had his virtues: a man of true principle and strong morality. But, as I never tire of saying, he allowed that appalling ascetic bully Sir Stafford Cripps to ride roughshod over him, and over the nation, to the extent that the way for the Labour Party to make sure of losing an election ever since has been to go to the country with a truly socialist programme. People have long memories for the miseries brought to a country just longing for a bit of relaxation after 6 hard years of danger and privation, all cheerfully accepted as 'the war effort'; but idiotically extended into the peace by the loathsome Cripps ~~ because he could ~~ because Attlee let him! That was unforgivable.

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 01:16 PM

""But seriously, tho, because it is bugging me to an exiguous extent ~~ can anyone identify anything I have posted above that can so have rocked McC's boat & made him imagine I had him anywhere in my thoughts whatever?""

The only way I can see of that happening is if he and Jasper are in fact one and the same.

A small advantage our anonymous ones have, the ability to operate several personas.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 01:13 PM

imo, Atlee was the best post war prime minister that we have ever had.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 11:26 AM

Sugarfoot ~~ Click on Edit in the header menu, and you should find "Special Characters" as the last option. Alternatively, click on the flag in the header menu, the one which chooses between Stars & Stripes or Union Jack, & a menu should open with "Character Viewer" or "Character Palette" [depending on model] as an option.

Good luck.

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stu
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 10:58 AM

Let's remember Thatcher and her ship of fools as we saw of them at the time.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stu
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 10:52 AM

Er, look, I hate to interrupt again, but where can I find 'Character Viewer' on my mac?

Thanks!

SfJ

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 09:48 AM

Hen. Well, at least I suppose if you call me Hen you're not calling me a cock...

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 09:48 AM

Hen. Well, at least I suppose if you call me Hen you're not calling me a cock...