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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GeoffLawes Date: 28 May 23 - 11:40 AM Link to THE WHITBY LAD posted in Mudcat thread Any June Songs /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=169898&messages=150#whitbylad:~:text=Subject%3A%20RE%3A%20Any%20June%20Songs%3F%0AFrom%3A |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,henryp Date: 28 May 23 - 08:59 AM Jack Beeforth, a retired farmer of Wragby Farm and the adjoining Cook House Farm, interviewed by Dave Hillery in 1974, recalled going to hire staff at the hiring fair in Whitby. And he also had a story about the hiring fair, published by Roy Palmer in his book, The Sound of History (1988). A lad goes to t'hirings and meets a farmer who says, 'Ista for hiring?' 'Aye', says t’lad. 'What can you deea?' says t'farmer. 'Oh, ommost onnything on a farm', says t'lad. 'Well thoo looks a likely lad', says t'farmer. 'Wheer were you last?’ ‘Wi' him over theer', says t'lad. 'Can you get yourself a character?' says t'farmer 'and then I'll hire you'. So the lad goes over to t'feller he were wi', and asks him for a character. 'Nay, lad, you deeant want to go wi' him. He'll hunger yer and work yer and you'll have a right bad time'. So the lad goes back to t'farmer. 'Well, have you got a character?' says he. 'Why,' says t'lad, 'I haven't got one for me, but he's just given me a right one for thee'. As Roy Palmer wrote, hiring was a very speculative and hazardous enterprise for both parties. The Whitby Farmer by Henry Peacock Tune; The Man in the Moon - see The Full English on youtube A farmer he goes to the Martinmas Fair To see the farm workers who all gather there. Lad, ista for hiring? Hasta got a strong arm? Says the lad, I can do onnything on a farm. Chorus; Now you may be a farmer or follow the plough, But in this rough world we must rub along now. Wherever you go and whatever you do, In all of your dealings be honest and true. Well thoo looks a good lad. Wheer were you last year? Says the lad, Wi’ t’feller as stands over theer. Now if he will put in a good word for thee, Then I’ll hire thee this year – tha can come wham wi’ me. Chorus So the lad he steps over to get a good word. Nay, says his owd master, Lad, have yer not heard? You deean’t want to go wi’ him and mek a new home. He’ll hunger thee and work thee reet dahn to the bone. Chorus So the lad he goes back to the farmer again. Have you got a good word, lad? the farmer says then. Nay, says the lad, I’ve not got one for me, But he’s told me to never go working for thee! Chorus |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GeoffLawes Date: 27 May 23 - 07:05 PM THE TAILOR’S BRITCHES sung by John Greaves on The Yorkshire Garland. http://yorkshirefolksong.net/song.cfm?songID=49 |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,RJM Date: 24 May 23 - 10:49 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec whitby whaler written by Richard Grainger |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Greum Date: 23 May 23 - 07:58 AM If anyone is interested, this is indeed by Dave Totterdell. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Greum Date: 22 May 23 - 12:51 PM Okay, I have transcribed the lyrics. Hope they're reasonably accurate! By Henry the Eighth in 1539 Every abbey in the land was plundered Lead, glass and gold they were taken away And the anger of God rang out on the day For his churches all were spoiled And the heavens they did thunder. Chorus: And how the flowing tide did make those sweet bells chime. Whitby Abbey tower had five strong bells They were loaded onto a boat And the townsfolk watched as the ship left shore With sadness in their hearts for they never thought The bells would leave the town On a ship afloat. She sailed out south down to Black Nab Bay The sails all a-swell in the gale But the seas fell calm and the winds dropped low And the sunlight place started to show At the Abbey ruins tower door And the sky it grew pale. Now the seas fell wind bound as still as death And the ship rolled onto its side And she sank in sight of the folk on shore Down through the waves to the salt sea floor And the Abbey ruins tower door And the plunderers they died. Now the bells lie still on the salt sea bed Untouched by flying time But their music peals through the sunlit seas Down through eternal centuries At night on Whitby shore You can hear their chimes. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Greum Date: 22 May 23 - 03:39 AM Thanks, yes. Given the name I found that thread and I also found mention of his 1977 album and song on Discogs, but no recordings or lyrics. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,RJM Date: 22 May 23 - 02:59 AM THERE IS A N OBIT HERE ON MUDCAT 2011 Obit: RIP Dave Totterdell |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,RJM Date: 22 May 23 - 02:57 AM I remember Dave well, he was a singer, concertina player and song writer. I think he died about 10 years ago |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,RJM Date: 22 May 23 - 02:55 AM Cot.711 Dave Totterdell Whitby Bells ?(LP, Album) |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Greum Date: 22 May 23 - 02:27 AM Dunno. I'll ask Graham. I can't find this song anywhere on the interwebz. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,rjm Date: 21 May 23 - 06:05 PM Above was the composer Dave Totterdell |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Greum Date: 21 May 23 - 03:01 PM There's a song called Whitby Bells but not Gus Gomersal's. I have the song sung by Graham and Sheila Nelmes. I am struggling to catch all the words but the first goes: By Henry the Eighth in 1539 Every abbey in the land was plundered Lead, glass and gold they were taken away And the anger of God rang out on the day For his churches all were spoiled And the heavens they did thunder. The chorus is And how the flowing tide did make those sweet bells chime. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: BobKnight Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:59 PM I've written a song about Whitby, It's called, "The Slender Dark-Eyed Beauty That I Met In Whitby Town." You can hear it here - www.youtube.com/bobknightfolk I'm delighted to say that I've been booked for Whitby Festival this year 2016. Maybe see some of you there. :) |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: The Sandman Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:07 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec written by richard grainger |
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Subject: ADD: Whitby Harbour (Stan Graham) From: GUEST,Stan Graham Date: 25 Jan 16 - 01:36 PM I've had lots of requests for the lyrics over the years, so here they are, enjoy. I play this in DADGAD, but Martyn Wyndham-Read plays it in Dropped D, others play it in standard tuning. Whitby Harbour WHITBY HARBOUR (Stan Graham) 1. Blow the north winds across old Whitby harbour, Tether the boats from the oncoming storm, Bright is the light that shines on the water, Coal from the Tyne keeping families warm. 2. Ghosts of old sailors in windswept old whalers, Finding safe harbour from Greenland's cold shores, Young boys are racing to pull down the ribbons, Then head for the Straights to go whaling once more. 3. Sailor beware the red skies of morning, Unless you are willing a high price you'll pay, Strong arms are waiting and all for a shilling, King George's navy will take you away. 4. An old Whitby Cat she glides through the darkness, 3000 gallons lie deep in her hold, Bound for the market and houses of Church Street, Gin, rum and tea to be traded for gold. 5. Blow the north wind across old Whitby Harbour, Captain James Cook has weathered the storms, Young men of Whitby sailed on the Endeavour, South to Australia and round the Cape Horn. Chorus Build me a ship to sail across oceans, give me fair wind and I'll answer the call, further than any man ever before me south to Australia and round the Cape Horn |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Dec 15 - 05:07 PM John Connolly (AKA Anon!)wrote a couple about Malcolm Storey including "Bold Admiral Storey" - but that probably has nothing to dowith Whitby. Oh, and Stanley Accrington also mentions Whitby and said Mr Storey in lots of his instantly written (and just as instantly fogotten) songs. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST Date: 21 Mar 14 - 10:00 AM Whitby fisher lad by steve tilston? Not a really trad o e though! |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Wail again Date: 21 Mar 14 - 09:58 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,guest Wail Date: 21 Mar 14 - 09:56 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Hrothgar Date: 20 Mar 14 - 09:05 PM The Spinners had a song which I think was called "The Whitby Smuggler's Song". Might have to find the LP. I suspect I can remember the words. Can't find it on the web. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,whitby Date: 20 Mar 14 - 02:40 PM mrs sally supner windmill primary school by sally chamber choir for singing and other with Elizabeth AND Beeston can join go round the ring aswell ching a ring ching chaw zzzzzzzzzzzz loove |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Steve Gardham Date: 04 Feb 14 - 12:13 PM Hi Paul, Gus Grenfell's 'Whitby Bells' is also on the website, sung by Hilary Simpson. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST Date: 04 Feb 14 - 08:07 AM How about Old Whitby harbour written by Stan Graham and sung by Martin Windham Reed amongst others. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Paul Davenport Date: 04 Feb 14 - 06:19 AM There are also two songs on the Yorkshire Garland website of recent origin that pertain to Whitby. One is Wendy Arrowsmith's song about pulling the lifeboat, 'The Visitor' and the other's my own 'Freeman's Waistcoat'. http://www.yorkshirefolksong.net |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,David Nuttall , Wakefield. Date: 03 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM I wrote this ' poem ' ( which I later set to music ) a few years ago following a true incident in the Black Horse pub in Whitby . My friend and I had sung the Greenland Whale in the crowded pub when an elderly sailor beckoned me across to relate this story which he maintained was true. I am hardly holding this up for its literary worth !! but I hope others may find it interesting and a link with the past and with Whitby . The pencil drawings of the fishermen are still very much in evidence on the wall of this lovely pub which is very welcoming for informal songs and tunes , particularly during Whitby Folk Week and The Moor And Coast Festival. WHITBY'S LAST WHALE The pencil portraits on the walls Of sailors here or drowned Fail to convey real history In the Black Horse , Whitby Town . Their old ways may be passed now But their stories still remain ...... The catching of Whitby's last whale Brought tears, remorse and pain. The weather-beaten fisherman Sipped ale in smoke-filled bar . His tears welled up and trickled down, Made me realise how far Reality can overcome Made-up tales beneath the mast ! We'd sung Greenland Whale in harmony But HIS whale song....unsurpassed ! And when our song was finished He beckoned me across.. Relating in slow , measured way His sense of hurt and loss. I filled his glass.He wiped his eye. From his mouth there trickled truth. No sentimental claptrap here... No imaginings of youth ! He told me how in recent times Whilst hauling in their net , Twelve miles from Whitby Town his mates And him were shocked, upset . They'd dragged a whale exhausted , Reluctant from the tide, Tried quickly to revive it For such slaughter they'd deride ! Cracked voice choked with emotion As salt tears filled his eye ! He knew that this great creature's death They could never justify. For catching indiscriminately Had always been the way But on that craft,that time, that place... A price the whale would pay. Tough men , openly weeping Helped it slip back to the deep.. No spark of life, flourish of tail, No breath...perpetual sleep ! But the memory had not faded For him to the present day ... Acknowledging it had been hard He'd been glad to have his say. Now when I hear a whaling song... Can't think of sharp harpoon. For of his tale - my vision's strong.... I see Black Horse salt - and soon I then recall what him befell, The look in that whale's eyes ... Its NOT the manner of the kill But the WHALE and its demise . The pencil portraits on the wall Of sailors lost or drowned Fail to convey real history In the Black Horse,Whitby town . Their old ways may be passed now But their stories will remain.... The catching of Whitby's last whale Brought tears, remorse and pain . DAVID NUTTALL |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST Date: 03 Feb 14 - 09:41 AM |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Jim Kay Date: 13 Oct 10 - 07:27 AM Many thanks to those who supplied the lyrics to "The Whitby to Scarborough Line" You made my year. Jim Kay |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Commander Crabbe Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:26 PM From another thread THE WHITBY TO SCARBOROUGH LINE Words & Music by Christopher Rowe If you go from Hawsker to Robin Hood's Bay, You will find there's a railway line hidden away; Ignored and concealed by the grasses of time, And they call it the Whitby to Scarborough line. There's a crowd at the platform at Robin Hood's Bay, The Victorian east coast is off work today; And they're waving the flags and they're pouring the wine, To open the Whitby to Scarborough line. For nearly a century steam engines reigned, Till the interest of tourists and businessmen waned, No steel from Teesside and no coal from the Tyne, Hard times hit the Whitby to Scarborough line. A North-Eastern railway sign rusts in the sun, Giving warning of the dangers that trespassers run, But gorse takes no notice of a forty-bob fine, And weeds choke the Whitby to Scarborough line. The viaduct at Scalby, the Staintondale Clock, The damp, desolate tunnel through Ravenscar rock, The rest rooms at Fyling where lights never shine, Now radar guards the Whitby to Scarborough line. There's a ghost train in the distance and it's garlanded black, There is dust on the signal and rust on the track; No oil in the lantern, no paint on the sign, And the wind rules the Whitby to Scarborough line. Notes [by Christopher Rowe?] "The Whitby to Scarborough railway line opened in 1885 and closed in 1965. Some who saw the opening as children, (when they were given the day off school), also saw the closing when the last train was garlanded in black. In its heyday it was popular with holidaymakers and invaluable to industry further up the coast. But as other communications improved, so its popularity declined, and today it is derelict and overgrown. The area is now better known for the huge radar globes at RAF Fylingdales than for its peaceful scenic railway line. CC |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Amos Date: 10 Oct 10 - 11:28 AM If you come down to Whitby's town Just looking for a frolic You might drop by a little pub Where no-one's melancholic! Not just a common tap and spile, All sorts get welcomed in, To lift a glass and sing a tune At Whitby's Station Inn! CHO:And oh, we have a jolly time When the regÕlar crowd comes through, When Derek sets the singing 'round And Colin serves the brew And Andrew fills the mugs again We make a loverly din A drinking Sunday night away At the dear old Station Inn The crowd comes in to have a pint, Meandering to the door But the place is looking spiffy now So they stay for three or four! The colour scheme's inviting The place done up like new So they often spend the whole night long A-sipping Andrew's brew. And oh, we have a jolly time When the regÕlar crowd comes through, When Derek sets the singing 'round And Colin serves the brew And Andrew fills the mugs again We make a loverly din A drinking Sunday night away At the dear old Station Inn There's Handsome Jim, when he comes in, The gals all start to blush And Emma grabs the largest glass And fill it with a rush. Her eyes are bright, her curves are right Her waistline is the thinnest. But if you make a bit too free She'll douse your head with Guinness! But oh, we have a jolly time When the regÕlar crowd comes through, When Derek sets the singing 'round And Colin serves the brew And Andrew fills the mugs again We make a loverly din A drinking Sunday night away At the dear old Station Inn So raise your glass, and health to her, And honest barkeep Pat, They keep the tavern running right, And thanks to them for that! Now bring a round back to the Snug, And let the songs begin Old Whitby's never seen the like Of our dear old Station Inn! But oh, we have a jolly time When the regÕlar crowd comes through, When Derek sets the singing 'round And Colin serves the brew And Andrew fills the mugs again We make a loverly din A drinking Sunday night away At the dear old Station Inn |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie Date: 10 Oct 10 - 11:20 AM Ah well... If Filingdales and Ravenscar count, then don't forget the Lyke Wake Dirge. Mitch wrote a song about having a good time at Whitby called "Old Plough Yard" |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Ian Hendrie Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:22 AM Hi Jim, I have the book you refer to with words to 'The Whitby and Scarborough Line'. I'll just go look for them and post them asap. Do you also want the King's Cross Strike song if it's in there? Ian |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Jim Kay Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:12 AM I used to sing a song called "The Whitby to Scarborough Line" more than 35 years ago. I can only remember the 1st verse now and would love to get the rest of the lyrics. It was in a great song book I had with songs of the Railways and Navigators. Included was a song about the King's Cross Strike of the 50's. Wish I could find it again. Anyway, here is what I recall as the 1st verse oof Whitby to Scarborough Line: If you go from Hawsker to Robin Hood's Bay You will find there a railway line hidden away Lost and concealed by the ravage of time -- They call it the Whitby to Scarborough Line. The song also refers to Ravenscar Rock, Filingdales and other places along it's course. Any help in tracking down the Lyrics would be appreciated. I never forgot the tune but one verse is not really enough for a performance. All the Best, Jim Kay. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Steve Lane Date: 04 Aug 09 - 05:13 PM I suppose i should mention my song about the Whitby to Scarborough Line for the record. It's more about Ravenscar but hey that's close enough for folk isn't it? Hear it on myspace.com/stevelanefolksinger |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 09 - 01:43 AM Two songs have been recently written about Whitby -- one about the Station Inn and one about the day-trip boat Whitby's fair Esk Belle. I can provide them with permission of the people who comissioned them. AA |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Darlodave Date: 04 Aug 09 - 01:31 AM Hi Collier Lad I'll make a point of being there also towards end of the week and I'll look into the Station for a copy and a song or two. Many Thanks |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: collierlad Date: 03 Aug 09 - 04:23 PM Hi Darlodave If you click on the mail order link & fill out and submit the form I will send you one by mail order. Otherwise I will have copies with me at Whitby Folk Week, but will not be there untill back end of the week. You can always find me & other Mudcatters in the front singeraround room in the Station Inn. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Darlodave Date: 03 Aug 09 - 01:45 AM Hi Collier Lad Re cd 'Behind Closed Doors' looked at the link as stated, maybe I've too much hot air on my brain at the moment as I'm in rather hot humid climes as I write, but I see nowhere where to contact so to obtain a copy. Will be home in UK for Whitby, can I get a copy at The Station Inn or somewhere else when I visit. Note that it's for a very good charity, it's a country I would to visit. look f'wd to some info please. Also can you advise where all the Mudcatters will be hanging out. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST Date: 02 Aug 09 - 10:41 AM I was not been negative or rude, simply that the redecoration was mentioned 2 years ago, are they still on with it?
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Tyke Date: 02 Aug 09 - 04:04 AM What relavance is there in you posting negative comments as a Guest? Don't bother replying you will be ignord! |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST Date: 02 Aug 09 - 02:55 AM This thread was started over 2 years ago - is it relevant? |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Tyke Date: 01 Aug 09 - 06:26 PM Redecorating the Station? How about putting some sand down on the floor and a few buckets and spades. Then you will be ready for the tide going out the next time the pub floods. Seriously I cannot understand why no one has suggested asking Mick Haywood for his input. From what I have noted Mick was collecting songs from the Whitby Locals back in the early sixties. Lets face it everyone and their dog has had a go at writing a Whitby song. Oh I do like to be besides the seaside besides the sea…………………… |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Rasener Date: 01 Aug 09 - 02:37 PM Steve Tilston does a wonderful version of "The Fisher Lad Of Whitby", which is on his excellent latest CD called Zigurrat. Well worth buying. Just listening to it at the moment. Brilliant. http://www.stevetilston.com/ |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Aug 09 - 01:25 PM I suppose "Leaving on a JET Plane" doesn't count!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: collierlad Date: 01 Aug 09 - 12:30 PM The CD Behind closed Door is available through me visit the link below Behind Closed Doors |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Steve Gardham Date: 31 Jul 09 - 06:54 PM I wrote the Whitby Seaweed Dance as a sort of mock morris using actual kelp stems for a Whitby fringe event about 30 years ago. I then adapted it for country dance. I still use it occasionally, but Roy Atkinson uses it a lot in his calling. The famous Arthur Wood of Middlesborough and Littlebeck sang 'The Cliffs of Old Whitby' but I think it was just an adaptation of 'The Cliffs of Old Tynemouth'. It's in 'The Songs of the Ridings' by Nigel Hudleston. We have copies for sale from Yorkshire Garland events. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Willa Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:28 PM Some catters know Sue and might be able to give you contact details. The visitor is a stunning song. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Banjiman Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:43 AM Songs about Whitby? There's this one: The Visitor (or Visiter depending on which account you read) |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Darlodave Date: 31 Jul 09 - 02:02 AM Appreciate it's a bit late in the but have just come across this thread whilst doing research but does anyone know how I can get the lyrics to the song 'Eighth Wreck' by Sue Haithwaite or even better a copy of the cd 'Behind Closed Doors'. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Mo the caller Date: 31 Mar 07 - 08:53 AM Squeezebox, I've got one of those dance books that I bought at the festival 20 or so years ago. It was a week of dreadful weather (made you glad to be inside, dancing), and all the dances are called Puddles, Sea Mist etc. The one I use still is Whirlwinds (loosely based on Whirligig, but easier). I also picked up a dance called The Whitby Seaweed Dance, a couple of years ago at a barn dance in Beverley. Did that come from those workshops? |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Lady Nancy Date: 31 Mar 07 - 07:27 AM Gus Gomersal of Dewsbury wrote Whitby Bells and Squire sang in in the '70s. At that time I sang with Squire. We are resurrecting it now with my new band, Sandrigg... When I get chance I'll post it and its tune in Digitrad - unless our CE comes out first and you can buy a copy and poach it from there...? LN |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Bill t' bodger Date: 30 Mar 07 - 08:41 AM What about a couple of songs by Vin Garbutt:- The old ghost train and the potash song |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Cats Date: 30 Mar 07 - 05:53 AM Jon Heslop wrote a song called Whitby Garland some years back about when the whalers went out they would hoist a may day garland on May day in the rigging and leave it there until they came safely back in to harbour, which also mentions throwing the shoes into the harbour as they left. I'm sure we have the dots on the computer at home if you can give us an e mail address [pm me]. He also wrote 'Ordinary Sorts of Men' about the Whitby lifeboat crew which is sung all over now and we have the dots for that on computer as well. Also I recorded a wonderful song called 'Bargheist coach' which was written by Jan Outram from Sheffield about the sailors who are buried at the top of the 199 steps and how the coach pulled by 6 black horses comes to take their souls back to the sea after burial. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Bill the sound Date: 29 Mar 07 - 09:08 PM I thought McGrath from Harlow might have posted his song "Kippers by Post" which mentions Whitby in the first verse Bill the sound |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: HipflaskAndy Date: 29 Mar 07 - 07:58 PM No worries matey - it's gotta be more or less the same thing in principle - email me (see website) and I'll send you an mp3 of the song in my version - Cheers - Duncan |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: nutty Date: 29 Mar 07 - 04:36 PM Sorry Andy .... its so long since I heard the Vin sing the song I just assumed. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: HipflaskAndy Date: 29 Mar 07 - 02:09 PM PS to Nutty I went to watch the hedge built in Whitby last year! There's pix and a sound clip of the horn being blown on m'website. attempts blue clicky - see 'news page' Penny hedge pic and sound As it's a Whitby connection to this thread - I feel it sets things back on track - that OK? Cheers - Duncan |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: HipflaskAndy Date: 29 Mar 07 - 02:04 PM Well, actually, I hope not Nutty! The lyric above (and tune that goes with it) is mine! Written a few years back - I took your post to mean Vin had a different song about it! Naturally - the words would cover the same subject matter. If he is doing mine, grand! But I reckon it's likely another song altogether. (Would love him to do any of mine actually! - hah! Nearly happened one time!) It's reminded me of other anecdotes actually - sorry for thread creep! I went to be guest all t' way down to Leigh-on-sea - sat waiting my turn to do the first set and a floorsinger did a song based on the 'Floating Brothel' book about first women convicts sent to Australia - dammit if my opening song was to be my own song on the subject!!! Floored me (ouch) to say the least! Then m' old oppo Tom (Bliss) - simultaneously it seems - wrote a song based on one of two Lady pirates from English history that were 'linked' (shall we say) - without knowing that elsewhere I'd come up with one about the other lass! (Tom's on Ann Bonney, mine on Mary Read). Spooky? May be - but I'm now developing a nervous tic! Cheers - Duncan |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: nutty Date: 28 Mar 07 - 05:06 PM That's the one about the Penny Hedge, Andy. The penance was to build the hedge and make it strong enough to withstand 3 tides. It's still being built today. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Lynn W Date: 28 Mar 07 - 04:34 PM I think Gus Gomersal wrote Whitby Bells. Can't remember the words though. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: HipflaskAndy Date: 28 Mar 07 - 03:14 PM Didn't know Vin had one about Whitby's Penny Hedge Here's another! The story of the murdered hermit of Eskdale, Sir Richard de Veron (d.1160). Out On Ye ^^ Now here's a tale of hunting men, three high-born men I'm sure With staves in hand and hounds a-foot - Out searching of wild boar - Out searching of wild boar Before too long the hounds full cry in Eskdale forest rang As the great boar fled the grass stained red - And men with blood lust sang - And men with blood lust sang Ch. Come officer blow your horn - Out on ye, Out on ye Come officer blow your horn - Out on ye, Out on ye On a hill sat a man so deep in prayer – the boar ran by his side Through the open door of the chapel went the boar - and exhausted fell to die - exhausted fell to die So Brother Jerome, he closed the way – the hounds at bay, without The gentlemen fast came to the brow - And called the hermit out - And called the hermit out They've opened the door and there looked in – in fury then did fly They've wounded Jerome with long boar-staves - Now surely he will die - Now surely he will die To the church in Scarbro' they did run – and there sought sanctuary But the Abbot him being a friend of the King - Says bring 'em back to me - Says bring 'em back to me And he's brought them face to brother Jerome – on his deathbed he did lie 'I am sure to die of these wounds you gave' - and the Abbot said 'So must they!' - and the Abbot said 'So must they!' 'Forgive them Lord, a penance I call - in lieu of life and land On Ascension Eve a hedge they'll build - By their own, or their own kin's hand - By their own, or their own kin's hand At nine of the clock with yethers & stakes - at the edge of the Esk beside Struthers they'll set, or lose all yet - For to stand against three tides' - For to stand against three tides' So here's the tale of hunting men, three high-born men I'm sure With staves in hand and hounds a-foot - Out searching of wild boar - Out searching of wild boar |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,dredger Date: 28 Mar 07 - 11:21 AM Ask Tony Morris he has quite a few Whitby based Poems and Songs. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:36 PM 1558 wouldn't be a likely year for Henry the Eighth to be doing anything much, since he was long dead by then. 1538 sounds more likely, and it's more or less accurate historically. ............ Here's a song I write about Whitby during a folk week there a few years ago: ^^ Whitby coming home Perhaps the seagulls woke me, but I could not sleep that night So I walked down to the harbour, to see the harbour lights, And the harbour lights were shining, and the night was calm and clear But that's aniother reason I'll be coming back next year To Whitby in the summer, together or alone, To Whitby, where it's always coming home. And rising in the morning, I climbed two hundred stairs To sing there in St Mary's, and to listen to the prayers, With the bells so sweetly ringing, and the seagulls wheeling by, And high above the harbour we were singing in the sky In Whitby in the summer, together or alone, In Whitby, where it's always coming home. With the singing and the dancing, and the music in the streets, And the welcome always shining in the faces that you meet, Why, Whitby in the summer is like moving through a dream, But there's something there in Whitby that is deeper than it seems. In Whitby in the summer, together or alone, In Whitby, where it's always coming home. And in the Seaman's Mission, I sat and drank my tea And those sailormen up on the walls were looking down at me And standing in the evening on the cliffs above the shore I seemed to see those little ships go sailing out once more Go sailing out from Whitby, together and alone And some of them would never make it home. And all through the streets of Whitby you can hear the seagulls cry Don't they say they are the spirits of lost sailors long gone by? So when we sing the old songs, it is more than just a game, We wake the memories of the dead, and call them home again To Whitby in the summer, together or alone, To Whitby, where it's always coming home. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: collierlad Date: 15 Mar 07 - 08:35 PM Also Jude Knight singing Three Jolly Fishermen is also on the new Tap & Spile CD. John Greaves of Little Beck is a good source of local Whitby songs. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: collierlad Date: 15 Mar 07 - 07:48 PM Sue Haithwaites singing "The Eighth Wreck/Whitby Lifeboat disaster" is featured on the new Tap & Spile CD. Tap & Spile new CD "Behind Closed Doors" |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: nutty Date: 15 Mar 07 - 04:14 PM I completed this song last year. It has been sung out but not extensively. I hope you like it. HAUL ON THE SAIL ^^ CHORUS HAUL ON THE SAIL, BOYS, HAUL ON THE SAIL THERE'S A FAST TIDE FLOWING AND THE WIND IS BLOWING FREE HAUL ON THE SAIL, BOYS, HAUL ON THE SAIL TILL WE'RE SAFELY ANCHORED, IN OLD WHITBY WHEN I SIGNED ON A WHALER, A YOUNG AND FOOLISH LAD I THOUGHT T'WOULD MAKE A MAN OF ME, WITH CASH I'D NEVER HAD BUT TWO YEARS ON I KNOW FOR SURE, I'M FINISHED WITH THE SEA AND LONG TO BE BACK HOME AGAIN , IN OLD WHITBY FIRST WE MADE FOR GREENLAND, AND SAILED THE SEAS AROUND THOUGH WE SEARCHED FOR MONTHS ON END - ONE WHALE WAS ALL WE FOUND SO CAPTAIN SAID, FORGET THE WHALES, AND SEALS WE HAD TO TAKE WE SLAUGHTERED NEAR ONE THOUSAND THEN, OUR LIVING FOR TO MAKE I HATE THE ARCTICS STORMY SEAS, THE ICEBERGS AND THE FLOES I HATE THE STINKING QUARTERS THAT WE LIVE IN DOWN BELOW BUT MOST OF ALL THE SLAUGHTER - THE ENDLESS BLOOD AND GORE I HATE IT ALL AND LONG TO BE IN WHITBY TOWN ONCE MORE I LONG TO SEE THE GREEN, GREEN, GRASS AND WALK THE HEATHER MOOR AND LISTEN TO THE WATER AS THE WAVELETS LAP THE SHORE NO MORE I'LL GO TO FROZEN LANDS WITH BLINDING ICE AND SNOW BUT I'LL STAY WARM IN WHITBY TOWN, WITH ALL THE FRIENDS I KNOW SO WHEN MY FEET ARE ON DRY LAND, AND THE SHIP'S TIED TO THE QUAY I'LL TURN MY BACK AND MAKE MY WAY HOMEWARD FROM THE SEA THANK GOD, I AM A SINGLE MAN NO COMPANY DEBT I OWE SO MANY MEN MUST SIGN AGAIN AND BACK TO SEA THEY GO. HAZEL BOLTON SEPT 2006 |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,squeezeboxhp Date: 15 Mar 07 - 03:38 PM while you are looking for things for the pub wall during the festival times we met at the Met and wrote dances for Whitby, Mick Peat leading the session and the books were published during the folk week. most of the dances were named for places in the town like Arguments Yard etc. i will bw coming over at some stage this year and will bring the copies i have if you are interested i usually did the music to test the dances to. Ken |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Raggytash Date: 15 Mar 07 - 01:16 PM Colin/Andy One of the best people to ask is Valmai, collar her on Sunday if she's in, as for the Whitby Lifeboat song, properly known as the Eighth Wreck I'll tell you the story later and let you have Sue Haithwaites words Raggytash (Nick) |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: gnomad Date: 15 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM Sorry, Pilgrim, I know the tune but not how to transmit it other than by singing it. How very traditional! John Squire & John Leonard [yes THAT JL] did a recording of it on their LP Broken-Down Gentlemen, Rubber Records RUB018, in 1976. Hope that may help. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Blowzabella at work Date: 15 Mar 07 - 06:46 AM Whitby Tailor is another ... Bob Fox sings it (scuse haste) |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: nutty Date: 15 Mar 07 - 05:37 AM Don't forget Vin Garbutt's song about the legend of te Penny Hedge |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: fogie Date: 15 Mar 07 - 05:22 AM I used to sing a song called Whitby bells about the bells ringing underwater -I cant remember who wrote it but it was a very good song, and I did a terrible thing relating to it! I turned up at the local club in Amersham and sang it ,not realizing that the chap who wrote it was the guest - I'll never forget it. It starts something like. In 1558 by Henry the eighth every abbey in the land was plundered - (the date's surely wrong)- however does anyone remember it well enough to add the rest of the words. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,old git Date: 15 Mar 07 - 05:17 AM Sue Haithwaite has written songs about Whitby, including The Whitby life boat song and one about mad Maggie(??) a famous whitby witch...and others e-mail Longwood4@aol.com |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Pilgrim Date: 15 Mar 07 - 04:29 AM Fantastic Gnomad. Refreshing to see a song where the maid deceives the sailor as opposed to the countless ones the other way around. Have you got the music forrit? |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: gnomad Date: 15 Mar 07 - 03:14 AM The Whitby Maid is even about pubs, to some extent. Sorry, don't know its origin. ^^ There was a maid in Whitby town, she was both fair and clever, And she would sit by her father's door, no matter what the weather, And a sailor coming home from sea, his pockets overflowing, He saw the maiden sitting there, quietly with her sewing. Chorus: Blow away you northern winds, blow away so cruelly, But none so cruel as a pretty maid, for they'll deceive you surely. Won't you come along with me? My Bonny, Oh my Honey, And we'll go down to Whitby town and spend a little money." My Father he would not agree, 't would be against his wishing," But with a twinkle in her eye she says "But he's gone fishing." This couple's gone to Whitby town, and soon were making merry, At every tavern in the town they spent a little money, The night came down, the stars came out, the lady says "My sailor, Oh won't you come back home with me, I feel I must repay you?" They went back home and went upstairs, the maid turns down the covers, Saying "Come to bed my sailor boy, let's you and I be lovers." And the sailor jumped out of his clothes, no faster than he ought to, When the door broke down, a man came in crying "Who's this with my daughter?" The sailor through the window's leaped, and to the ship's gone running, And he's left behind his coat, his watch, and the best part of his money, The Father with his daughter's gone down to the kitchen table, And they've shared the sailor's money out as quick as they were able. The Father's gone to buy new boots, and a new suit from the tailor's, And the daughter to the door has gone, to wait and watch for sailors. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Geoff the Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 05:56 PM Thanks, Lynn. That covers my query - essentially a mix and match song, but nothing to say that Whitby has any less claim than anywhere else. Quack! GtD. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Susan of DT Date: 14 Mar 07 - 05:53 PM Songs in the DT (including update) that mention Whitby: North Sea Holes Song of the Fish Gutters Hermit of Eskdaleside |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Lynn W Date: 14 Mar 07 - 05:24 PM The Whitby Lad is on the Watersons' Yorkshire Garland. From the sleeve notes- The Whitby Lad A big family of highwaymen and poacher songs interbred with a family of transportation songs to produce a large number of offspring all resembling each other closely. A central feature of them all is the lamentation of the aged parents. The Whitby Lad was collected from Mr. W. F. Verril of Staithes some sixty years ago by R. A. Gatty. In other versions the young transportee comes from other parts and sails down other rivers than the Humber. On the face of it the song is modest enough but it has exercised a powerful interest on singers and hearers alike and versions of it quickly became common in Scotland, Ireland and America (where it still flourishes under such titles as The Boston Burglar and The Jail at Morgantown). |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Geoff the Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 05:11 PM From: eanjay - PM Date: 14 Mar 07 - 03:17 PM The Whitby Lad Just curious - it's not a song I am aware of. Do you have any information about the song, origins or collecting/writing credits for it? Is it originally about Whitby, or just one of those songs where you "insert local place names". Quack! Geoff. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Lynn W Date: 14 Mar 07 - 03:32 PM There is a nice jig called Whitby Pier in the Vickers manuscript (1770). Here it is in abc computer notation- X:1 T:Whitby Pier B:Vickers part 3 M:6/8 L:1/8 K:D A|F2Ad2e|fed cBA|BdB AFD|FAF E2G|F2A d2e|fed cBA|Bgf edcd3D2:| g|faf d2f|gbg e2g|fed faf|ecA A2g|faf d2f|bag fed|Bgf edc|d3D2:|| If you copy and paste the above into an abc convertor such as the one on Concertina.net - http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html just hit the "submit" button and it will give you sheet music to print. PDF will give you better quality. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 14 Mar 07 - 03:17 PM The Whitby Lad ^^ Chorus: Son oh son what have you done You're bound for Botany Bay Now come all you wild and you reckless youths wherever that you be I would have you quit night-walking and shun bad company And it's I was born and bred in Whitby town and raised up honestly Until I became a sporting lad which proved my destiny And it's I broke into some lady's house about the hour of three Two peelers stood behind the door and they got quick hold of me Crying It bein' at the March assizes the judge to me did say Now the jury has found you guilty, lad, you must go to Botany Bay And it's Oh to see me aged father a-trembling at the bar Likewise my own dear mother, she 's a-tearing her grey hair Crying It bein' on the twenty-third of March from England bore away And as we sailed down the Humber we heard the sailors there Crying Second chorus: Boys oh boys there are no joys Down there in Botany Bay Now there is a girl in Whitby town, a girl I love so well And if ever I get me liberty it's with her I will dwell And it's |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Blowzabella Date: 14 Mar 07 - 03:13 PM You might also want to contact Richard Grainger, who has written many songs about Whitby, including Whitby Whaler, I think. Story goes, he was in the Museum at Middlesbrough, which had a dispaly about ... Whitby - or whaling - and, in a glass case was some sheet music .... for song that he wrote .... He explained the situation ... usual story but with a nice ending - I think that he and the Museum curator are still together - aaahhhh |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Tap and Spile Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:44 PM Cool, Ray is in tonight so will ask him! Cheers x |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Geoff the Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:38 PM Another local resident is Ray Randall who recorded his Polly Swallow CD inspired by the F.M.Sutcliffe photo. And Charles O'Connor up at the Stonehouse, produced his Resolution Suite and Breaking Waves (for the Bark Endeavour) CDs. Quack! GtD. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Mrs.Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:32 PM Tee hee! |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Typical Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:23 PM You sit at a different computer for a couple of minutes and your wife gets her posting in first... Quack! GtD. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Tap and Spile Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM Thank you, it is an idea I only had last night whilst watching the paint dry!!! See you soon, col x |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Geoff the Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM Try talking to some of the folky Whitby residents. People such as Derek Elliott would know what belongs to the town. You could also ask permission from people who have written songs more recently. Richard Grainger wrote one called Whitby Whaler - he can be tried via the web sites for the Captain Cook/Shanty festivals. Bill Sables, who is a mudcatter, although I'm not sure how often he looks in these days, wrote one called Whitby Fisherman (to an old American Hymn tune). Quack! Geoff the Duck. |
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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??! From: Mrs.Duck Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:20 PM 'Three Jolly Fishermen' is a song collected in Whitby ask Jude Knight or Derek Elliott about it. Another written more recently and set to an old hymn tune is 'Whitby Fisherman' written by Bill Sables. ^^ WHITBY FISHERMAN (Bill Sables) I'm a fisherman from Whitby, keep my boat down on the shore And I fish the banks for herring as my father did before When we leave the land at sunset for to plough the northern sea It's the peace of moonlit waters that brings thoughts of home to me Blessed quietness, Holy quietness, What assurance in my soul On the stormy sea speaking peace to me How the billows cease to roll When I'm standing in the wheelhouse in the subdued compass glow I can find a peace unequalled, while the crew's asleep below And the stars are there to guide me and to help me through the night Mingling with the lights of comrades sailing for the morning light When we shoot our nets at daybreak praying for a bumper haul Then the sun shows in the heavens spreading brightness over all And the seagulls wheel above us as we turn the boat around 'Cos the nets are full of silver and tonight we're Whitby bound We'll unload our catch in the harbour and make sure all is tied down Then it's home, a bath, then supper and a stroll down into town We will pass around the bottle in a pub down on the quay And we'll praise the Lord's protection and His gift of Peaceful seas If only you'd mentionned it the other week when I was there I'd have sung it to you :0) |
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Subject: Songs about Whitby??! From: GUEST,Tap and Spile Whitby Date: 14 Mar 07 - 02:03 PM We are currently re-decorating the pub and thought it would be quite nice to display either, some sheet music and/or song lyrics on some of the walls. As we are right in the centre of Whitby, if anyone knows of any Whitby tunes or anything that would be fitting we would be very grateful! Also thanks to everyone for their continued support and kind words, Colin. |
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