BS: Unity

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 11:32 AM

Don't hold your breath waiting. It's impossible to make peace with someone else if they would rather stay angry at you.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 11:57 AM

Awwwwww, now I don't think that TIA is all that angry, LH... Maybe ain't near the computer seein' as it is a holiday... I ain't got lotta time myself fir playin' on this thing 'cause I gotta mow grass, shower, load up my gear and play an hour set at a festivel int town this evenin'...

She'll be around...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 03:51 PM

...Or with generally angry people...wasn't holding my breath, either. Its really of no import. People want to see, do, and hear what they want...then re-act according to what they perceive. When one is both angry, and self-absorbed, simultaneously, they tend to get defensive, and take things personally. Being as those two things at once, makes one weak,and staying angry is a reason not to opening up, to look at ones own part in an unforgiveness, and to higher stuff. Its the weak that accuse others of their own motives.(Because its all they see).Unforgiveness, itself comes from a feeling that one has not been punished enough for a wrong you think was done to you...as long as you hold on to it, and don't let go of it...(because the person who did you wrong hasn't been punished enough to your suiting, you stay angry, and bitter. So, actually unforgiveness punishes no one, except yourself, still waiting for that old 'X' to get his!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 08:39 PM

Exactly, GfS, but that ain't TIA... I've known TIA fir a long time here and there ain't no sanity problem...

Speakin' of anger, I hope you took my critique of your SCREAMING on a non-persoanl basis... I used to SCREAM here until it was brought to my attention CAPS means SCREAMING and then I quit it... Now I do other obnoxious stuff... lol...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest of Sanity
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 09:19 PM

I was not directing that at Tia, as being singled out for anything, just stating stuff of understanding...things to watch out for when we catch ourselves...happens to anybody, and probably everybody.
(Thanks for the hint on caps....was merely using them to emphasize a point....but thank you..I'll keep that in mind OK??(Is that the same as 'OKAY!!)...grinning

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 11:21 AM

I think it fitting, that on a thread called 'Unity' that perhaps men and women can stop bickering about their 'rights' and come together, past the silly notions of what was 'sold' to them as being equal. The family unit is the first fabric of a social structure, and healthy family bonds make for a better, stronger nation as well. Don't buy into this destructive nonsense about differences, that the parties, (mostly Democratic, in this case, but both) used to prey on the weakness, and exploit, for their own agendas. Though the Democratic Party is usually the mouthpiece for this, it was a ploy used by the ultra rich, international bankers, to broaden the tax base, incorporating the women, (who used to traditionally stay at home, and raised children). They Have done as much as they can to 'de-feminize' womans roles and how women feel about their role, as primary nurturer of the children, and turn them into 'equal laborers'. So says David Rockefeller, who promoted that political movement, in the late '60s, and early '70s. Now when I hear Hillary, and other candidates, or whomever, use the phrase 'It for the children...' I know that here comes the BS, and I want to puke!
   The feminist 'movement', is just that...a political movement, It should never be taken seriously as a contributer to mental heath, or stability, or beneficial to children....and that is NOT up for debate!!

Oh, the MFCC, mentioned earlier....stands for Marriage and Family Certified Counselor.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 11:27 AM

Clarification: When I mentioned 'equal' in my prior post, when a husband loves his wife, the question of equal doesn't weigh in. People who are 'equal' don't try to 'be' equal. People who 'try' to be equal, usually aren't in their minds..but not through the eyes of who sees you as being loved.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 11:29 AM

akenaton: kudos on your original post!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: akenaton
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 12:00 PM

Thanks Don,but I felt we might have got more from the "paid up" Democrats.

Guest ..You make some great points, are witty and humourous....Don't go back to Sanity, stay in this nut-house and keep the therapy going.

Couldn't agree more about the role of women in our society.
The most important job on Earth is the nurturing of children. Women have indeed been brainwashed into thinking that material possesions like new house, car, holiday abroad are more important than a MOTHERS role.
The encouragement women to add their labour to the Capitalist's pot is producing a generation incapable of love...either of their fellows or of themselves...Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 12:16 PM

There is no greater role on the planet, for a woman than to bond, nurture and teach her children,and loving her husband!! Any other notion is based in selfishness, and is an abdication of the highest, equal place of importance in our nations!!!!! Any excuses that keep anyone from that incredibly important role, is instantly suspect of being bullshit, and should be laughed at!..Now we find ourselves stuck with a 'progressive' dilemma that leaves us with very few options to get out of(financially)...but that was the original idea. Feel duped??
   The power of a loving family is one thing they fear, and had to break down. Men will die for and kill, to protect their families, (as women too, if nessessary). They will fight and die for the freedom, to raise their families in freedom...and our corrupt politicians and their agendas have eroded those freedoms to a fraction of its former self...usually for some near sighted bribe, from those whose agendas, are more far reaching than these nearsighted clowns can see. Welcome to the destructive greased slide!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 12:46 PM

gfs, you're right. i agree with akenaton, and mentioned before...i think you're brilliant!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 01:10 PM

Brilliance has nothing to do with it. It is common sense..and obviously true....funny(sad), how we've been indoctrinated away from common sense, and truth!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:03 AM

GfS, I agree with you 100% on this. There should never, of course, have been any impediment in the way of naturally gifted and strongly motivated women who definitely wanted to do various things such as write novels, act, play music, do business, or whatever they wanted....(and there used to be many such impediments in the way of women)....BUT...(and it's a big "but")...the $ySStem has cynically used the artifice of pretending to "free" women to more deeply enslave everybody and they have done it by a direct assault on the structure of the family.

The family is the bedrock of every traditional society and every stable and healthy society. A society that pretty well forces both young parents to leave the home and work five days a week at outside jobs is a society that systematically breaks downs and destroys family life. Children need their mother close to them...at home... in the early years right through the teen years, they do not need a surrogate parent in the form of a frikkin' TV set (which turns them into programmed, hypnotized little consumers and future addicts of various sorts, if not into criminals or people with serious societal problems of various kinds).

You are quite right that they have lured people through appealing to their selfishness and their desire for immediate material gains of some sort.

"The power of a loving family is one thing they fear, and had to break down."

Dead right. I have seen an assault on the family by the marketing system during my own lifetime that has been absolutely profound, and that has generated terrible fallout in society already...and it's getting worse.

If the family unit can be broken, then whatever moral cohesiveness society has gets destroyed.

And I am NOT talking about persecuting gays...or preventing any women from realizing their own dreams or doing any kind of work they really want to do. No sir. But I am talking about encouraging all people to have faith in what they have had faith in for the last 50,000 or more years...their own home and their family unit. That first, and that above all else. That above any enticement or bribery or government or slick lifestyle carrot that the commercial system can dangle in front of them to get them in its power. Therein (in the traditional family connections) lies the greatest strength people have and ever can hope to have. It is the saving grace of young children...they all need a mother's guidance (and a father's too), and they must have it if they are not to get lost in the commercially dominated maze that is all around them.

I had a mother who stayed home. I always had that secure base in the home. I think it's one of the reasons that I have grown up as radically against the present $ySStem as I am. I did not get brought up by the values commonly presented on television. Matter of fact, we HAD no TV in the house till I was 17 years old. I read books instead, a lot of books, and I listened to a great variety of music my parents bought (from folk to classical to Calypso to world music, to pop, etc.). I also was not exposed to commercial radio, because we listened to CBC from Canada. CBC had no commercials. Period. It was a publicly financed radio show with news reporting, many kinds of music, children's shows, and all kinds of talk shows and entertainment and information shows. The CBC's daily content, compared to that of the commercial radio stations, was like comparing the content of a pretty good city library to the magazine rack at the local crummy smoke shop.

If you feed most people a diet of cultural garbage every day of their lives, they soon grow up thinking that garbage is perfectly normal "food", and from that point on the $ySStem has them in the palm of its greasy hand for the rest of their lives. And they don't even notice.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:26 AM

The question is just so simple...$20.00 an hour, and the child is in daycare(or babysitter) is it worth more, than the loving bonding for that same amount of time..a mother has with her infant...yes or no???

When I balance a schedule, to facilitate what I need to do, what is my child missing, while I'm gone???? How important is it???

How much money is my bonding and presence worth...and is there some of that for sale by someone else's that's as good as mine, that I could pay for??

Maybe after I get that promotion, eh??

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:20 AM

Well, when I was growing up in the 50's in a middle class neighborhood, moms didn't work... They didn't have to... Dads made enough money back then for that to be the norm...

Then came about the Reagan Revolution (whatever that was) and since 1982 wages have stagnated... Yup, it's a strange coincident, isn't it, that economists now look at 1982 as the beginning of the end of growth of wages of the average American working family... But that decline has continued since 1982 and it's no wonder that families have suffered...

Oh sure, it can be argued that some average families could make it on Dads salary but the standard of living would be very low and the sacrifices great... And that choice were made then the average family would no longer be average but probably close to living in poverty...

A more ***just*** distribution of wealth is what we need for starters if we are going to preach family values...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:18 AM

Bobert had it dead on. Big holiday weekend, grass to mow, all afternoon gig to play period music with the kids -- in the rain :(

As for whether people are angry, self-absorbed, weak, illogical, or let's see, what other pejoratives have been trotted out so innocuously? Oh yes, defensive, bitter....

Well, there are folks who can be quite insulting without meaning to, or realizing it, and trying to explain it just makes one seem small. So I figure if no offense was committed, there's no need to forgive anything.

I got way better things to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:24 AM

The first real estate crunch, and slowdown was in the mid sixties, not in the eighties, as you stated..(mostly to pin it on Reagan). There were spikes in the gas prices, around '72 -73. By the late seventies there was another recession,(including the gas shortages) that lasted about 2/12 to 3 years, till about 83-84. During the eighties, interest rates on home mortgages were in the low teens, and credit card rates were as high as 22-24%. Mid to late eighties home prices began to climb, again, but interest rates were still high. In the nineties, they began to settle down..and easy to get. Then the price of homes shot up..It was either high principle/low rates..or low principle/high rates. It was during the 80' that the word 'creative financing' came into usage..remember that?

So your misstated facts (just to blame it on a conservative), blows your other premise out of the water. (There were other issues to blame on Reagan)...and sure, 're-distribute' the wealth??..Any time you want, pal, reach into your pocket and start handing it out! I'm sure there is at least one needy family, or vet you see that you can contribute something on a regular basis to...don't you think?? Or do volunteer work...great thing!....But to tell others to do it as a policy of law, and change our system to do it???

There is an old blues tune, that is really cool...love this lyric:
    Your father ain't my father
    You mother ain't my mother
    Get your hand out of my pocket
    And quit callin' me 'brother'

Being as this is primarily a folk and blue blog, I thought that would be appropiate ..don't you think?? I myself do volunteer fund raising, and free counseling, so I'm not suggesting you do anything that I don't....Do you do anything like that??....or are you just good at telling everybody else, that THEY should???????

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:26 AM

...And be careful when you back out of the driveway, too!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:26 AM

Yes, it's all determined by the distribution of wealth.

I recall that when Buffy Sainte-Marie had a child she pretty much retired from the professional music business and all its demands for about 10 years so she could stay home and give proper attention to bringing up her child. I missed her at the time, being a big fan of hers, but I appreciate her maturity and her sense of responsibility for setting her priorities that way.

What can be more important than giving your own children the best and most loving start in life that you can possibly give them? For thousands and thousands of years there was normally one parent who stayed home and took care of the children and the household. It's the natural way of life for human beings. When economic conditions make that very difficult or impossible then there's going to be a lot of social damage, and the effects are liable to be cumulative as that damage causes yet more damage farther on down the line.

Speaking of the $ySStem giving people false messages of "liberation" in order to further enslave them, anyone remember this?

Virginia Slims cigarettes were marketed as a "woman's cigarette" around a slick advertising slogan - "You've come a long way, baby!" And they showed scenes of women back in the 1890s or something like that having to hide in the closet to smoke a cigarette....but, hey, girls! Now you can light one up anywhere and puff gloriously and enjoy your "freedom" as a liberated woman in a "free society".

Talk about the height of marketing hypocrisy!...as they sold a very harmful and addictive drug and tried to make it look like liberation of the female gender. Among teenagers now there are more girls smoking than boys according to current statistics, and they are smoking more heavily than the boys on average when they do.

Slavery can be marketed under the guise of freedom.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:33 AM

I guess you are talkin' to me??? Wea in't talking blips but trends here... If we chartm wages of working families the decline began in 1982 ans has been in decline ever since... These are adjusted figures, mind you, after inflation... And the decline isn't just thru Repub administartions but the Clinton one, as well...

As for volunteer work, I have been a community activist since my teens and have logged in more vulnteer hours than I could even keep up with... And I continue to volunteer and will as long as I am able...

Think globally, act locally...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:07 AM

Bobert, you are right on that one...matter of fact, the rate of inflation has been out pacing the rate of income, for years(decades) You can see that by the price of gold, and what it will buy, as compared to cash made by man hours of working. This is due to being off the gold standard, and other un-constitutional tidbits inflicted on us by politicians, working for you!!(Your tax dollars at work). As so far as the volunteer work..hey!...keep it up...there are few of us enough around, who are moved with compassion toward our fellow human beings. Anytime I hear someone suggesting that wealth re-distribution, more than it is(actually we could roll it back a bit), usually means they want some one else to do it, and means raising taxes to do it..which leaves less money, to give of our own...right??
Little Hawk, I remember Buffy Ste.Marie Haven't heard from her in quite a while. right now the is another top artist, who takes time off from her tours, to raise her kids..and that is Lisa Kelly, who with her group has been no.1, on the music world charts(Billboard Magazine) for 129 consecutive weeks! In case you haven't seen or heard of her, or the group. I'll post a link. I know to many in here, it may not be your cup of tea, but she(they) are hot!, as in perfection, and production(though I'm sure management will screw that up too)

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfO6JpR5Ip8
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzMfSiOkMQ
Lisa is in the first link, the other I put just for shits and grins(same group)

TIA backing out of the driveway post, was for you!
Love you all!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:09 PM

Good post, GtS.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:13 PM

Awww, man, that "I Am the Voice" number just cuts through me like a shiv. Really.

Beautiful, beautiful.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:16 PM

Glad you liked it..I like it..a lot..got more.....

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5n0HwaRmQ

Amos...here's another for ya'..same woman, same group

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:21 PM

Aw jaysus; it's heart-wrenching. A big voice and pure.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:40 PM

Here Amos, a love song...a wife to her husband, or a mother to her child, or both and NO politics    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ym8pZhOPDI

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:39 AM

I just watched "I Am the Voice". Wonderful!!!

I'll check out the other links tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:48 AM

My. She is really something.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:25 AM

Sorry guest, although the singer has a beautiful voice, I find all the Celtic Woman stuff to heavily produced for my taste.

I grew up with Gaelic music and song, and the best, most exciting versions are the unaccompanied ones.
Have you ever hear "Sean Nos" the old style .It will take your breath away and they never need props or gimmicks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfO6JpR5Ip8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhRrTg5Ywg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ojy1W6r8L0

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:33 AM

This one is capella(because gaelic music was not what I was even referring Amos to, and there are no props either in this one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5T6gyCPDvM

and for Amos get a load of this multi meaning love song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh-q8RNLr3Q

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:36 AM

Here's a nice one guest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja3MHSLRERs

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 11:02 AM

The object of my posts was not to compare different styles of Gaelic music, but rather, Amos mentioned Buffy Ste. Marie, and how she halted her career, to raise her child. I was showing Amos another bright singer who has decided to stay home with her children instead of going out on the tours, for the same reason. When Amos, seemed to like it, I sent him some more. That's all. As so far as 'gimmicks' and it not being 'pure' Gaelic music, well the blues has its roots in African music as well, and no one seems to be knocking it,for not being 'pure African music'. The music I posted is very well done, and performed. With their popularity, though, well, I don't think they should run for president, like other 'popular' people we know. (besides, they're more talented!!)

Note to Amos: I think they are phenomenal!! In the song 'The Voice', (depending on your screen resolution) toward the end of the song, you see tears streaming down the side of her face, putting her whole heart into it!! Anyway...Happy listening!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 11:14 AM

THey are phenomenal, GfS-- the gal is laying it all out on the line for her audinece; and musically, it's stunning.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 12:35 PM

..All for you

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 12:44 PM

Amos,..If you can, and have a big screen, high definition, T.V., hooked up to a good sound system, this concert is an unbelievable treat!! Now without everyone posting, stuff on how they don't like this group, or sending in their 'de-merits' about them, the DVD is 'Celtic Woman: A New Journey'. I personally guarantee that you will watch this concert over and over again!. I know people here, who have evening get-togethers, just to watch it as a group, and socialize. There is another DVD, which was their first one, and is simply titled 'Celtic Woman' (with a blue cover). Enjoy
P.S. For all those who don't like it, (as I posted earlier, 'it might not be everyones cup of tea') just reserve the comments....besides, you can always watch Britney Spears, or Madonna.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:16 PM

Thanks for the links akenaton - pure honey after saccahrine

Sorry Gfs - I appreciate some of your views but not your tatse in music.

Irish song as I like it

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:30 PM

I love Dolores Keane, and always have, Emma, but I find nothing saccharine about the Celtic Woman series; I think they are as heartfelt, if more gussied up for stage, as Dolores' singing.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:43 PM

A 'Voice' that never had the need to be gussied up, one of the first folk singers I ever heard singing one of my favourite songs.

My Lagan Love

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:18 PM

As a musician, I find something about All of them I like!!
By the way, as a woman, don't you like to get all 'gussied up'...just once in a while??..........not even a little???

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:32 PM

hmmm Gfs my understanding of the expression is that it means 'make more dressed up or decorated, but in a showy or gimmicky way' so no thanks!

Actually, that's exactly what I feel they are doing to the songs too but there was a discussion on the music threads some time back with varying views expressed here

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:34 PM

Buffy Sainte-Marie can be pretty stunning too. See if you can find a video of her on the Net doing the song "Starwalker". I last saw her about three years ago in North Ontario, and she still does an absolutely wonderful live show, full of love and power and beauty.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:45 PM

Little hawk..Haven't heard from Buffy in some time..glad to hear she's out and about singing again.
Emma, the link is to another post...I guess thats all the proof I need...gosh, I guess I don't like what I like, for the reasons I used to like it, anymore...get serious!
Stunning, I believe that was being talked about, was their vocal quality, and they are..you can all put your claws away......even though the fiddler sure is cute!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:53 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 03:15 PM

i guess she has nothing to say...i watched all the videos on the links, hey, come on, the ones gfs posted are wonderful, i agree with amos on that one, who, for once agrees with gfs! besides, its a show, and far more uplifting than the show this year called the 'election'. its interesting to note, that so far, the only ones who don't like the celtic woman videos, are other women, the men sure like it, except now some guy will post in, saying just the opposite, and politically correct. as far as gimmicks on at least three of them, i saw only a girl singing with a piano player, whats the gimmick there?? great tune, great voice, great lyrics! if you don't like them, don't go to their concerts, or buy their cd's and dvd's. but, thanks to gfs, i'm getting of the computer right now, and going to the music store and getting everything i can find of theirs, right now...by!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 03:58 PM

Little Hawk, I found Starwalker on youtube, with Buffy Ste Marie. Thank you..but before i can say for sure if I liked it, I noticed that the North American Native women on the pictures depicting them, had plucked eyebrows, make-up, lipstick, styled, shampooed, and conditioned hair, and no hair under their armpits.....does that mean they're 'gimmicky'??? I mean I just can't abide that!!!...but wait a minute!!..they used microphones, and I heard it on my speakers!!..electronic 'gimmickry'!! how dare you recommend this to me?! Not only that, their Native American 'costumes' were fitted!! You absolute sleaze, you! Microphones, sound processing equipment, reverb, amplifiers, dressed up women..electric instruments??!!??..How dare you??? You are definitely no purist!! How can I take anything you say or like seriously????
   But seriously, Thank you so very much...if you need the link, holler at me, ok!!
   Ok, ladies did you get a hint?

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 04:23 PM

LOL!

Well, I had the good luck to see Buffy perform once at Harbourfront in Toronto in the early 80s (in a lineup that later included the as yet almost unknown Jim Carrey)...and I noticed that her armpits were not shaven! Maybe she's legit after all?

Well....one always has to watch like a hawk for all these little signs of "selling out", doesn't one? (grin)

What should really worry you, though, is this: I'm backing a cigar-smoking, gun-toting, chimpanzee for president. He drinks heavily too, and he's (at least secretly) in favor of inter-species romance.

Scary stuff, man, but I like his platform. It would be a refreshing change.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 04:37 PM

Who's that??..running here is the U.S.?? ..and Buffy was wearing a long sleeve blouse, (must have been hiding her 'femininity'), the rest of the pictures showed the women very attractively 'coiffed'. If you get a chance, check out the other links I posted...Even Amos liked them!!(?) Perhaps there's hope for him. Actually, one of the appeals that even women have told me, about that group, is that they were very 'feminine', as opposed to 'feminist', and therefore more fitting to let their daughters watch them. The feminist thing is old hat, for losers, never worked for them, or anybody..but I'm sure there are some die hards out there, who are incapable of learning from experience..oh, btw, 'not learning from experience' is a symptom of one who is psychotic,(not an opinion, folks, but true symptom)
God Bless Little Hawk..and in fact everybody///

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bee
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 04:45 PM

Not really, Guest from Sanity(?).

You've backtracked just a little on earlier remarks that I would call viciously anti-woman. I'm actually pretty relaxed about, even find endearing, exuberant bellowing masculinity, except when it chooses to manifest itself through accusations of ball-busting to the nearest woman who dares to express a dissenting opinion.

Then, despite your apparent affection for the little woman who stays home with the kids (and more power to her, on her own terms, not anyone else's, and as a BTW, once the nursin's finished, why it's easy as pie for a father to stay home with the kidlets and bond to his li'l heart's content, exceptin' for that littl problem we still have about pay for men not necessarily bein' equal to pay for women overall) you then begin glorifying the talent and manipulated beauty of some female celebrities of the folk world.

Gittin' gussied up is something we all do, once in a while, for fun or for profit, and that certainly includes men, unless you think a man chooses a cowboy hat, or a fedora, or a bowler, just to keep the sun outta his eyes. Great Big Belt Buckles, Bolo ties, fancy shirts and cowboy boots aren't often worn for practicality, buddy, they are just a tiny smidgen to the right side of eyeliner and high-heeled pumps.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 06:12 PM

"viciously anti-woman"????????????????????/..Jeez that's a new one, if that was the case, why then did I post a woman group??? You are not making any sense..but, if this will help you out..Why do cowboys wear such big belt buckles??.............Tombstones for dead dicks....happy now?