Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:37 AM

imo The whole Greenland thing is just a diversion to distract from the new Government break in of private US homes.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 08:09 AM

”BWM, is that "box of frogs" thing a Brit folk expression?
Or your own genius?”

It’s an expression in fairly common use in the UK, in common with others of that ilk, e.g. ‘mad as a hatter’…

https://wordhistories.net/2024/04/03/box-of-frogs-british/

For the record, I have never claimed to possess the characteristic of genius, but I’m flattered that you have elected to view me as falling in that category.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 08:57 AM

Thanks, BWM.

Our great minds think alike.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 10:17 AM

There was a reference earlier to 25A; the Twenty-fifth amendment to the US Constitution allows his cabinet to remove him if they all think he is unable to serve. But his cabinet is bonkers so that isn't going to happen. They are his enablers.

If people keep dropping in with short little meaningless "me, too" quips we're going to have to start a new thread (before this hits 700). Think about if it really needs to be posted, or if you can save it up and put in two or three thoughts at a time.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 10:21 AM

”Well, ............ yes it is. If I hadn't had time on my hands, I probably would have let it go and still have been none the wiser. Good communication is the responsibility of the writer, not the reader.

We obviously have a different view on what constitutes ‘difficult’ Doug. If I find myself not understanding a colloquialism in someone’s post, I rather enjoy the process of finding the meaning and, in so doing, expanding my own knowledge a little. Twenty seconds or so with my preferred search-engine usually sorts it out for me, without this kind of to-ing and fro-ing and attempting to score points. It’s completely unnecessary, and adds nothing to the discussion on the thread.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 02:14 PM

Not trying to score points - just asking for clarity.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 02:24 PM

Let Google be your friend. Look it up yourself, that’s what I do.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 04:55 AM

Invoke the 25th Amendment, and you get Vance. Is this an improvement? I must agree that he can't be much worse.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:08 AM

Let Google be your friend. Look it up yourself, that’s what I do

I did look it up, as I said upthread. I got half a dozen references, none of which related to the subject in question, which is why I axked you for an explanation.



Invoke the 25th Amendment, and you get Vance.

If Trump gets removed because of his unreasonable behaviour, Vance couldn't carry on in the same vein witnout risking being removed himself, in turn. I'd go with Vance over what we have now.


DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 08:11 AM

The FUOB has been opening his flappy mouth again without first engaging whatever small amount of brain he possesses. This time he has claimed that NATO troops avoided serving on the ‘front line’ in Afghanistan, clearly having no clue about the British presence in Helmand Province, where they lost 457 lives.

Here’s British MP, Emily Thornberry, in glorious flight on the BBC’s ‘Question Time’ telling it precisely how it is.

It really is time that senile old fool was removed from the Presidency. He’s making the US not just a laughing stock, but arguably the country most hated by the rest of the world.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 08:46 AM

And here’s a more complete piece from BBC Question Time showing the responses of the other guests on the panel. Apart from the American member, all were in agreement that a line had been crossed in the past week or so, and that the European nations were right to stand together in solidarity against tRump.

My question would be, given his history of cheating on his wives and his employees, his stiffing of sub-contractors, and his treachery against his own staff in government, why is anyone surprised by his appalling behaviour towards other NATO member-countries, and his insulting comments against their forces who did something he never had courage to be involved in?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 10:43 AM

I refer the Assembled to Charmion's observation in the current Declutter thread. We are not alone.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 12:16 PM

UK PM Starmer has said that the Commander-in-Chief Bonespurs’ comments are ‘insulting and appalling’ and has suggested an apology should be forthcoming.

Anyone taking bets on it happening? I’m not holding my breath…

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:28 PM

Sorry to say, BWM, but I agree with Doug C on this. I had NFI what you were referring to, and if an ex-librarian doesn't have enough info to make a search, that could be telling you something. ?? LOL


UK PM Keir Starmer demands Donald Trump apologise for 'appalling' claim NATO troops swerved frontline

"In short: Veterans, NATO leaders and Prince Harry have reacted with anger after US President Donald Trump said veterans from other NATO member states avoided the frontline in Afghanistan.

"British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the comments were 'insulting and frankly appalling' and has called on Mr Trump to apologise.

"Article 5 of the NATO treaty, which states an attack on one is an attack on all, has been invoked only once — following the September 11, 2001 attacks — after which European allies responded by joining the US-led mission in Afghanistan."

And another ABC(Oz) article which shows tRump's attempts to gild the lily:

US officials tout 'New Gaza' plans filled with shiny luxury skyscrapers

What a surprise! (Not!)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:38 PM

Here you go, Helen. Took me all of ten seconds to find it.

Subject closed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:47 PM

As a 79 year-old country bumpkin from the Backwoods, I frequently come across expressions I don’t understand but, instead of wasting bandwidth by pissing and moaning at the ones using the expression, I research it for myself. It helps to keep my brain sharp, and it avoids pissing other posters off.

Others would be well advised to follow my example - it really isn’t very difficult.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 03:53 PM

From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:38 PM

......................

Subject closed.


BWM, pax?

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:07 PM

Yep, fine with me Doug. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:41 PM

Piss wars II aside.

Global extortion and larceny are in full swing, not for the USA but for Mr. T and associates. Joining the Trump cartel for billionaires is easier than doing scams on your own, which is done with big bank approval.

It will persist until jail, do we part, or a massive stroke.
After T passes, criminals will still extort on their own.

What is unkown is where he will be buried. It won't be Arlington but it could be a golf course.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 09:30 PM

The crass Trump continues to decry what the USA used to stand for with his inane rambles at DAVOS for all the world to see. Now we have his NATO allies "stayed behind the lines in Afghanistan" Many were on the front line including the son of the King of England. Nice one from a president who avoided the Vietnam draft five times! Even worse NATO was the only one time they were needed after 9/11. His mew PEACE plan with Putin there and Canada excluded helps to weaken NATO. I hope America stops his damage soonest.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 04:06 AM

"At a hearing in November, the majority of the justices, including several conservatives, expressed doubts over the White House's justification for the import duties, which the president has claimed are necessary to restore America's manufacturing base and fix its trade imbalance" MSN

So US importer will pay the inflated Tariff ~ they should be jumping up and down!!

The supplier will see less in the way of Sales ~ hence US supposedly will make those items in the US ~ well if someone can? set up times? etc suspect too many expectations

The REPAYMENT of collected illegal tariff money's will be a night mare but then the legal team will enact ~ or not parent Act to enable

Trump is a nightmare

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 09:26 AM

Welcome Ray of sunshine. We could also use an Atkins diet.

The dread pirate Donald did a weave about his world as a youth for two rambling hours. A man without an ethical, empathetic filter is an awful noise of chaos. His supporting criminals are holding T together with scotch tape and spit. T has crossed the line from offensive to irreparable wounds.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 09:34 AM

Like a sick dog, T has vomited on the DAVOS carpet and, in his TACO fashion, has eaten it, leaving just a stain.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 10:40 AM

> What is unkown is where he will be buried.

If he's not enbalmed in formalin, he should be cremated for public-health reasons, after which his ashes would just about fit in the 18th hole in Par-a-Lago, within sight of the wind turbines he so loves. Thereafter, the whole site will be progressively strip-mined by metal detectorists looking for his crock of bling, which will turn out to be an IOU written in Cyrillic.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 12:53 PM

I created an image of the future T memorial, which is like a tower pyramid with his white statue atop a gilded pedestal.

T has proclaimed that any poll that does not determine Trump as the greatest will be sued.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 05:02 PM

Another summary execution of a pediatric nurse was shot on the sidewalk. ICE claims he had a gun in his car. Gov. Walz says the victim had a permit. Police were not allowed to investigate.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 05:53 PM

Those who urge the public to stay away and let ICE "do their job, as law enforcement officials" seem to be unable to read the room. Or the state of the Trump Goon squad.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 09:01 PM

Thanks Donuel for your mention. I have never seen so much vitriol against the Trump or anyone before from this side of the pond. I will leave it there as i see another victim of his gestapo. My thoughts and care are with many at this time. I include America also

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 02:17 AM

A police state and quite out of control

As me dad would have said " He's got it to come"

ICE follow no legal rules they are mercenaries

Mus face the full force of law in the states where crimes have been committed

Lies have been told and covered over from first glance at least, typical of the US ~ give US a wide berth and stuff 'em not a country that abides by Rule of Law ~ Rule of lawless Cowboy Country

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 01:38 PM

> imo The whole Greenland thing is just a diversion
> to distract from the new Government break in of private
> US homes.

Not just that. In Comments on Diddums's Dav(r)os Coredump, I found the following:

"It took the focus away from cost of living and abused young girls"

More importantly, it's distracting from Jack Smith's testifying - today IIRC - that he has a case solid enough to convict Trump for inciting the J6 insurrection.

It's an interesting and unique legal case; because as per the 14th Amendment an insurrectionist cannot stand for president, Trump is not the president now. This raises the argument that the Republicans didn't stand a candidate in 2024, which would mean Kamala Harris is President. This doesn't just eject Trump, it takes his entire administration with him as they would all be serving under false pretences.

This is the first I've seen this.* Can anybody shed light on it? Not that anything is likely to come of it: as another Commentard remarked, Diddums has the USSA by the SCOTUS.

Once I've calmed down a bit, I'll contribute extracts from an article in the New European World before last. Look out for "the chaos is the whole point"; stand by your browsers.

* Mission accomplished.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 01:54 PM

.... In the meantime, I've dropped a related filk in my ditties thread. Enjoy.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 02:28 PM

Yesterday's victim was shot ten times. Phone video shows he never touched his gun, but was beaten like Rodney King before someone yelled gun, and ICE backed off to avoid being shot by fellow ICE agents.

ICE claims the nurse intended to mass murder as many agents as possible. In actuality, the victim was trying to block the assault of a woman who was being attacked savagely by agents.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 04:25 PM

The Supreme Court has ruled that the President cannot legally be considered an insurrectionist, because he has not been convicted of insurrection in any court of law. He is innocent unless and until proven guilty.

And because he is a sitting president, elected by the people, he cannot be brought to trial now.

So that's that. DJT is President under the Constitution.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 04:27 PM

That draft dodging piece of shit should be on his knees apologising to the over a thousand bereaved families of those who came to the USAs aid in the USA managed war in Afghanistan.
How the hell does a bastard like that get to that position.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 04:53 PM

Lies and the privilege of money is how.

SCOTUS ruled that the President has immunity for any official acts.

The dictator might say the behavior of ICE is Pretti Good.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 08:24 PM

Well, hw seems to have muswd to General John Kelly that American Marines killed in France in World War I were "suckers" and "losers," so I wouldn't be expecting that apology.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 08:25 PM

"he" seems to have "mused."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 26 - 09:33 PM

Believe Your Eyes
People are risking their lives to document agents in Minneapolis.

I don't know if people will be able to open this, I can't find a button for sharing it at the moment. If one turns up I'll update the link. In The Atlantic.

Chances are, you’ve seen Richard Tsong-Taatarii’s photo. Taken Wednesday in Minneapolis, it shows an unidentifiable protester face down on the ground; two Border Patrol agents are on top of him, holding him there, while a third unloads pepper spray into his face from just inches away.

The photo ran on the front page of The Minnesota Star Tribune on Friday and already feels like a defining image of the long ICE incursion in Minneapolis—a powerful illustration of how the agency has acted, in broad daylight, with excessive force and impunity.

This is just one example of federal agents terrorizing people in the city. There’s also the photo of a 5-year-old boy being detained outside his home. There’s the video of an agent chasing a teenager through the snow on a residential street as the boy yells “I’m legal” in Spanish. And yesterday, the world saw footage of Alex Pretti, a nurse who worked in the ICU of a Veterans Affairs hospital, as agents pepper-sprayed him, knocked him down, appeared to remove a legally permitted gun from his person, and fired at least 10 bullets into his prone body. (Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino has claimed that the agents were the “real victims” and suggested that they were acting in self-defense.)

The rest is at the link.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 01:44 AM

Welcome to the fray ~ US is acting like a 3rd World country ~ seemingly with the outright support of Big T and immunity from prosecution Minnesota is being crucified whilst police are being side lined

This is desperate and the World sees these acts and judges

Words fail me ~ this administration is appalling in every aspect

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 06:50 AM

We are not supposed to be citizens. We are supposed to be passive subjects to a dictator or face summary execution.
The First and Second Amendment rights are no more under Steve Miller and Trump. The fourteenth Ammendment and others are also disappearing.

The witnesses are in hiding or face arrest by ICE so they can not testify.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Hrothgar
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 06:54 AM

Should we encourage people to refer to this person as "President Bone Spurs"?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 08:00 AM

There is an irony that Steven Miller and his wife are Jewish and seek a Nazi-acting regime in the US. Then again, there is Netanyahu.
Is a twisted psychological retribution at play?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 08:04 AM

The abused becoming abusers themselves is a well-recognised phenomenon.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 08:49 AM

Thank you, Trump Supreme Court, for ethical impunity, government fatality impunity, financial impunity, spiritual impunity, anti-Constitutional impunity, and psychopathic megalomaniac impunity.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 11:13 AM

Have I mentioned that in 1986 President Ronald Reagan, who preceded Trump as the conservative cynosure, proclaimed amnesty for all undocumented migrants of good moral character who had resided in the U.S. for five years without being charged with any offense?

I've yet to hear anybody bring this up on TV. Why not?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 01:58 PM

Stand by for blasting ---

[...]
As the driver of a narrative, Trump intuitively grasps that, to compel attentrion and compliance, a political story must have two core features. First, it must achieve emotional resonance, grip its audience and keep social media ablaze with updates.
[...]
Trump thrives on plot beats, pace, twists, suspense, drama, action, jump scares, cliff-hangers. [...] These dissonances --- these abrupt shofts in focus and tone --- are not an error. They are the whole point.

For the second core feature of a 21st-century political story is its relentlessness.
[...]
Though this deranged notion [to expand the USA's land mass by swallowing Greenland] threatens the entire NATO edifice [...] it is not a conflict with Europe that Trump seeks. I don't think that prospect alarms or seriously crosses his mind. What he is really after is the establishment of a war mentality at home.

This is where spectacle and power converge. In a chilling interview with CNN's Jake Tapper last Monday, Stephen Miller, Trump's increasingly influencial chief of staff, was quite brazen about the administration's view that might and right are inseperable.
[...]
       -- Matthew D'Ancona, "A dark age of spectacle and power",
            The New World, issue 467, Jan 15th 2026, pp 14--15

This is only a taster; I can't do full justice to the original, which is around forty column-inches (one-and-a-quarter pages) in length. (It may or may not now be available for reading in full on TNW's website.) It mentions that the Oik *wants* riots at home, but not why. He's already cried "havoc" and let loose the orcs of ICE, but to cement him in place forever, he needs an insurrection, or something which passes for one to F*x News's satisfaction.

But these pesky citizens will insist on videoing real and contradictory evidence. How long before a camera is reclassified as a firearm?

PS: The Mouth of Sauron, in her press conference just concluded, alleged that there's now been two fingers bitten off by protesters. No pictures, let alone hands, were produced as evidence.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 02:18 PM

My mistake: the article doesn't mention the immediate goal, but it does conclude with the long game (emphasis in original):

[...]

This is Trump's own finaql command: that you believe his story, though it is obviously false. [...]

Like Winston, the world now lies on a bedframe and Trump, like O'Brien, has his hand on the dial, insisting that "2+2=5". It is not enough to honour him. We must really assent to his madness.

Winston tells O'Brien that "the spirit of Man" will defeat him. Will it?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 04:22 PM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bondi-minnesota-voter-rolls-welfare-data-walz-immigration-shootings/

WHY is Pamela Jo Bondi demanding voter data on every Minnesotan as well as welfare rolls and food programs before ICE agents are ordered to leave??
Detailed video of execution.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 06:53 PM

Often, people accidentally tell half the story.
Ronald Reagan increased border enforcement, created the first private immigration detention centers, and implemented specific, smaller-scale enforcement actions like the 1982 "Project Jobs" which detained 5,400 people. Simultaneously, he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which granted amnesty and legal status to nearly 3 million undocumented immigrants.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jan 26 - 09:49 PM

Tonight Rachel Maddow is discussing the crumbling of support for these ICE and Homeland Security officials (including the top - Noem) within the White House. This doesn't mean that Trump or Miller are changing their minds about their policies, but it means they realize they are in a lot of trouble and will cut their losses by tossing out a few administrators.

Things to consider in regard to all of these protests: in the US citizens and residents of all races are stepping up, but the Anglo population feels safest about going out because they are White. They are defending their friends and neighbors who are immigrants or naturalized or who are undocumented. Clearly that sense of privilege and safety has been shattered with the execution of Good and Pretti. They mean well, but until the whole white population is equally outraged when brown and black immigrants and citizens are harmed (and there have been many more hurt and killed) with each case becoming a huge headline, we're not there yet. Episodes come to the top - the ICE folks using a five-year-old as bait to get his father to come out of the house, the various early deportations that ignored judges saying "not so fast." Supporters of African American murder victim Brianna Taylor are incensed when EuroAmericans chant "Say Her Name" for Renee Nicole Good, feeling that it has been appropriated and not enough attention is paid to minority victims of this bad behavior (and past offenses by police in general). There is a lot of work to do. Right now, it would be best if all of the groups can work together, instead of arguing amongst themselves. (Trump and his ilk use the tool of dividing us so we bicker amongst ourselves, weakening our strength to get rid of them.)