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Subject: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 06 May 05 - 08:58 PM Well, well, well.... Ain't this somethin'?.... After giving Anthem Health Insurance Company close to $60,000 over the last ten years, after the P-Vine seeing her doctor about possibly IBS (Irritable Bowl Symdrome) or something else, Anthem has cancelled out policy... I wish I'd just taken that $60,000 and put it into medical savings account now 'caude over that same ten year period we might have gotten $5000 ro $6000 back in perscription drugs and a few office visits and tests.... No matter, they are some $55,000 to the good and me and my wife are 45,000.001 and 45,000,002 respectively... Welcome to George Bush's America where everything is about that 1% of the greedy rich folks who own everything and want to own more... Anyone out there know where a couple self employed folks can get health insurance that ain't gonna screw over us again??? Thouroughly pissed off tonight... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Peace Date: 06 May 05 - 08:59 PM Sorry, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: annamill Date: 06 May 05 - 09:03 PM Oh that is just horrible! There is nothing you can do? There has to be something illegal about that Bobert!! Hell! I'd be pissed off too! Damn! Love, Annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: artbrooks Date: 06 May 05 - 09:19 PM Shit! Anthem is the Blue Cross carrier, aren't they? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 06 May 05 - 09:23 PM Yeah, they say we can appeal.... ahhhhh, to them!!!!??????...... Like askin' a bully to stop beatin' on ya'....... \ No, this is not illegal... Health insursance companies can canceel you if they sniff that they might have to pay out claims... Looks like the P-Vine's situation with her innards set off a red light and now we are cancelled because, how dare her, she got sick... Lie I said, welcome to George Bush's Amerika... I am lividly piseed off tonight... Now since we have been cancelled I don't think anyone will pick us up and if so won't cover anything having to do with the P-Vine's condition meaning that, after, 40 years by playin' by the rules and paying into Boss Hog's Health insurance comapnaies, we are screwed... Like I said, it's perfectly legal and now we are gonna get a unhealthy dose of what some of the Bushite's 'tound this joint regfer to "personal responsibility" which means that should something be seriously wrong with my wife, we'll most likely loose a life time's worth of work and playing by the rules, so that the Martin Gibsons can pump out their chest and talk about "personal resonsibility"... Yeah, hope they get big ol' jollies out of it... Screw Bush's Amerika... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Donuel Date: 06 May 05 - 09:51 PM Health Insurance is now only for the healthy. If you are not healthy you could often be canceled. The appeals process is winable for the unrelenting stout of heart and the litigiously savvy. Most people just roll over after the customary initial cancelation. This increases their profit margin. If they can keep up an appeals process until the person dies the profit margin is vastly increased. My wife is an expert in the area of federal research of health insurance companies. PM me and I will have her respond. Sorry it happened to you but there is one good thing...at least this thread is devoid of Martin Gibson and friends with their disgusting rhetoric of brown juice anal intercourse and such. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=80944&messages=11 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 06 May 05 - 10:09 PM Yeah, Donuel, an appeal is definately in the works.... We've allready asked fir the paperwork that will be required... Problem is that you don't appeal to a sepearte agency but to the the friggin' folkls who say they domn't want to carry yer risk any more??? Like what's that all about.... I'll PM you as we get futher into this for yer wife's ideas on how to beat the crooks.... ahhhhh, which they are... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Ebbie Date: 06 May 05 - 10:23 PM It may be legal but it's not ethical. Why and how did we come to sign on to that kind of obscenity? Yeh, I know it happens- but IT SHOULD NOT BE LEGAL. In addition to Medicare I had a secondary insurance policy. At a certain point I had an annual checkup done and some medical tests followed by minor surgery. When it all shook out, Medicare paid for about 80% of the cost (standard) and I discovered that the supplemental insurance had contributed $8.00 (EIGHT DOLLARS) as its share while denying $858 it was requested to pay. I was paying $86.00 per month for three years for that $8.00. Needless to say, I no longer carry that policy. Bobert, if you appeal, what is the probable outcome? Keep in mind that the two offices (policy and outcome)- are not the same people. It makes me so angry- you want us to inundate the company with mail? Is there something we can do? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Sorcha Date: 06 May 05 - 10:27 PM It's not just health insurance. It's all insurance. Cars, houses, property, everything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 06 May 05 - 10:33 PM Bobert, believe me, I understand. I have numerous horror stories myself. Off the top of my head, three thoughts: 1. Your legislators are on your side. Make a contact, and see what's available. Each state is different. Here, we've gone through numerous programs, all well intended, but often poorly managed. 2. Many drug companies and various advocacy groups have programs to help. The Berlex company paid for my Betaseron for a year when I couldn't get any insurance company to take me. The MS society has lots of info and people to help me. There is an organization for nearly any disease. If you can't find one, there is the orphan disease group. These folks know the ropes. 3. Talk to the auxiliary people in your doctor's office. They will tell you things (sometimes whispered off the record) that your doctor cannot talk about. Follow up on Donuel's info. Then also consider a lawyer or the "Action Reporter." Make noise - and good luck. I promise it will come out OK, eventually, but it sure is hell going through the process. And special hugs to the P-Vine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Once Famous Date: 06 May 05 - 10:45 PM Well, I thought I heard someone whining my name. It's bobert, the big risk whining tonight and blaming his usual nemisis George Bush for everything as usual. Face it bobert, you need to go to a nice communist country because America just isn't for you. Bad risks drive everyone's rates up, pal. Hey, I heard Home Depot gives one a pretty decent insurance plan. How about going tomorrow and filling out an application and doing a full honest week's work? BTW, just got a statement from my HMO that they picked up the whole $3000 emergency room visit except the $75 deductable for my step-son's visit last January when he fainted. You called me out bobert, and here I am for you and your stooge Donuel. Yeah, sure do love my career working for corporate America for the last 20 years. Glad I got a fine education and they value me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 06 May 05 - 11:23 PM Fu*k you, Martin... I worked harder this week than you have ever worked in yer in any week in your life... And this is a typical week in my life... Like I said, screw you... Go drop a couple of a canned goods in the po-folk collection box to make you feel all warm and fuzzy... You ain't gotta a clue what it feels like to play by the rules, stick some $60,000 into a system and be cancelled because they get wind that someone, my wife in this case, may actaully be sick... Fu*k you, you insensitive moron... Go give Bush a big ol 'hummer... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: jacqui.c Date: 06 May 05 - 11:30 PM Bobert - sorry to hear that P-vine has health problems. You're right - this stinks. I agree with Ebbie, it is unethical and immoral for a health provider to behave in this way. I hope that you can persuade them to reverse their decision. Good thoughts coming to you both. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Peace Date: 06 May 05 - 11:34 PM Bobert, Get in touch with Donuel. He's a good man, and when he says his wife is up on this stuff, believe him. You need some help, buddy. Donuel's missus will get you going in the right direction. What happened to you and your missus is bullshit. The bastards do that lots. BUT, they can be made to reverse the decision. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bev and Jerry Date: 07 May 05 - 01:46 AM Bobert: Sorry (but not surprised) that you got screwed. We once got Blue Shield to reverse their decision not to accept a claim (different from cancellation) by sending them a letter which stated all the facts in detail and clearly demonstrated how dumb they had been. It ended by asking them whether they wanted to honor the claim or have us send the letter to the state insurance commissioner. They paid the claim. You might try that technique. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 May 05 - 04:32 AM I'm sorry for your plight, truly. It is always worth appealing, if you don't ask you don't get. It's things like this that make us Brits appreciate our National Health service - it may be slow, dirty and inefficient, but it means that everyone gets treated without having to decide whether they can afford it or not. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 07 May 05 - 07:36 AM We will certainly appeal this decision... Meanwhile, anyone know of any other decent insurers we can talk with??? And ya', Donuel, if we run into any problems during the appeals we'll be in touch, and thanks.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST Date: 07 May 05 - 10:44 AM Bobert, don't know about your state, but our state (MN) has an assigned risk pool for people who are in your boat. Of course, that's gonna likely go down the toilet too, what with the ascendancy and preponderance of selfish, greedy voters like Martin Gibson, who don't believe we should have government, much less government regulation because they are too fucking cheap to pay for the government services they don't use. Don't like paying for government services? Keep voting Republican folks... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: DougR Date: 07 May 05 - 11:04 AM It would appear to me that contacting Donuel's wife, who has offered to help, might be the first thing to do before you file the appeal. She might be able to advise you in this area too. But then what do I know? I voted for your nemesis, the guy responsible for all of the ills of the world, including cancellation of your policy evidently. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST Date: 07 May 05 - 11:14 AM Message to MG Maybe your 20 yr career working for coporate America will come to an end soon when it is outsourced to communist China. Then MG you'll lose all your current medicare. Then you might understand and appreciate Bobert's desperate situation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: harpgirl Date: 07 May 05 - 04:04 PM Bobert, buy another insurance policy. Aren't you incorporated? You can buy a group policy, thanks to Clinton, if you are a small business. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST Date: 07 May 05 - 05:49 PM Bobert: Check this out. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Alaska Mike Date: 09 May 05 - 09:48 AM A survey was done after the 2004 election of people that voted for George W. Bush. They were asked what are the three most important issues to you personally which you would like to see improved in this country. Number 1 was better and cheaper healthcare for ALL citizens. Number two was decent jobs for Americans. And number 3 was better care of the environment. When told that GWB was opposed to universal health care, had gotten legislation passed which gutted the environmental laws, and had lost over 3 million jobs in his first 4 years, most of these ignoramuses said they voted for him because he was a "good man". I'm still not sure what he's good for. Sometimes I wish he'd tie bells on his clothes, douse himself with pepper spray and take a long walk in grizzly country. Best wishes Bobert, I hope this works out for you. Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 09 May 05 - 10:17 AM Guest, our state also tried the high risk pool. At first the state paid our premiums. I was one of the initial 50 to get the insurance. Later, the company administrating the claims realized that it couldn't make ends meet, so left the state, after sabatoging all the records. We had no insurance for two months, and didn't even know it until my daughter went in for a tonsilectomy, and the doctor informed her she wasn't covered. Next, the state tried subsidizing Anthem to take high risk people. Harpgirl, Hubby was self-employed at the time, so Anthem was happy to offer us insurance. (the agent even bragged about her salary...that's when I had to leave the room) After a year they raised my premium to $1000 per month and Hubby's to $500 per month. Then Hubby took a job with the state government three years ago. That meant they HAD to take me. One month after he signed on, Anthem announced they would no longer serve my county for state employees. So another insurance company picked us up. Then 18 months ago they dropped us. I think I've had at least 8 companies in the last 10 years! Kentucky had ~18 companies serving the commonwealth 15 years ago. Then when the law said they HAD to take everyone, all but two left the state. This is not a Bush problem...or a Clinton one. Until more young people realize the problem (need insurance) we will never get help. Most people don't even understand COBRA (continuing benefits when you lose your job). It only lasts for 18 months. They were counting the days until they could get rid of me. I had to send claims to some office in Texas, and they didn't even know how to process them. Potability is good, but high premiums are used to get rid of people. I don't know the answer, it is extremely complex. I would hate to see the end of our lifesaving technology and drug advancements. However, I think we spend too much on end-of-life care. (My family knows to let me go.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Once Famous Date: 09 May 05 - 12:33 PM Guest, I doubt it. Just got another great review and raise. gee, bobert. You ought to do something about all of that anger you have. You like to blame Bush or even me for all of the problems you have. Why don't you consider taking responsibility for your own problems. Like about your decision making in your life. As for you working hard, keep making those puka shell bracelets, or consider getting a real job where you can get some decent benefits. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: frogprince Date: 09 May 05 - 01:07 PM Martin Gibson doesn't exist; but, somewhere out there, one of the lowest belly crawling excuses for a human being on the face of the earth does exist, and he/she/it is sick enough to enjoy treating other people in this way. Words like mercy and compassion run through the scriptures of the Jewish people line after line, page after page, but none of that has reached this allegedly Jewish person at all. Now, "Martin", tell me that that is an anti semetic attack, or tell me something colorful about my mother. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: SINSULL Date: 09 May 05 - 01:14 PM bobert - that sucks! Fight it as best you can. Sorry Mary afterthought - MG is a "persona" who may or may not exist, may or may not have a job which allows him to spend most of his day posting on the internet, may or may not have gotten a raise. Who cares? This thread is about bobert's problem...M. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: frogprince Date: 09 May 05 - 01:24 PM Point well taken, Mary; Bobert, sure sorry you guys got this dumped on you, and hope you're able to find a way to wade out of it in decent shape. Dean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: PoppaGator Date: 09 May 05 - 02:09 PM What a freakin' bummer! Good luck, Bobert, with that appeal ~ but cynic that I am, I ain't holding my breath for you. (Sorry!) The self-employed, and the employees and owner/operators of small businesses, are simply screwed when it comes to health coverage in the US. Employees of the largest corporations, on the other hand, enjoy top-notch coverage at little or no expense. Why? Because "hospitalization" (as it used to be called) was once-upon-a-time a luxury, back when most working folks could easily afford most of the medical care that was available and that they needed. Medical insurance was a luxury that employers offered as a "fringe" benefit along with just a few elite positions. The definition of one's co-workers as one's "group" for health-insurance purposes no longer serves any meaningful purpose, and certainly does not serve justice. Arguing that the current system is absurd, unjust, and in need of a complete overhaul is not equivalent to a call for Stalinist statism, nor indeed for carbon-copying any other nation's current solution to this problem. America is still the world's most "advanced" society, for good and for ill, hanging out further into the future than anyone else, and must take responsibility for devising a way for citizens to enjoy access to basic health care and for medical professionals to get paid. Of course, any meaningful refrom would also undoubtedly eliminate some medical-paperwork jobs, but that will be the cost of progress ~ God knows plenty of jobs are always disappearing due to technological progress and other reasons, and constant creation of new jobs is just another part of what modern society needs to do. Any big-business employee who actually believes he or she deserves health coverage vastly superior to that available to most other working Americans certainly suffers from head-up-the-ass syndrome. (Didn't someone recently coin a word for this condition?) A bit of self-congratulation for putting oneself into such an advantageous position is understandable and not really out of line, but you have to be crazy to believe that the pencil-pushing and wheel-spinning one performs as a cog in the military-industrial machine is in any sense more worthwhile than the truly productive and job-creating efforts that take place in the small-business/entrepreneurial sector. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Once Famous Date: 09 May 05 - 03:30 PM bobert brought it on himself. What you are ignoring is that bobert blames George Bush and he blames me. Neither one had anything to do with his losing his insurance. Typically, he is the type who points the blame everywhere but himself. Not handling his life properly might had something to do with it. And why should I have any compassion at all for an obsessed person who does nothing but ridicule many people himself? He sure dropped that phony folksy dialect pretty quick when his real self came out, didn't he? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: mg Date: 09 May 05 - 03:34 PM Bad news. I hope we come up with a solution for universal care. Anyway, if either of you wanted to take some classes, check out the nearest community college and check out their insurance. Probably easier to keep taking a class or two and get the insurance than to pay for the insurance. About the irritable bowel, many people have gotten relief from eating 2 coconut macaroons (Archway brand is often mentioned) per day. Coconut is a miracle worker for some ailments. Check it out on the web. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Ebbie Date: 09 May 05 - 03:39 PM Good heavens, Mary G. Why would one eat a macaroon if the miracle ingredient is coconut? Reminds me of a fad diet I once saw. Quite stringent rules but every fourth day or something you could eat a hot dog! Why would I waste my meat/fat allowance on a hot dog? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Once Famous Date: 09 May 05 - 03:47 PM Goes to show ya, that you can't get a decent hot dog where you live. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: mg Date: 09 May 05 - 03:55 PM I guess macaroons differ in different places. Here they generally are made out of coconut. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: PoppaGator Date: 09 May 05 - 05:32 PM Now, now, Martin, you smug fat-cat S.O.B.!!! A property-owning construction superintendant can hardly be accused of "not handling his life properly." Large numbers of highly productive American workers lack adequate health coverage, including not only the self-employed but also smaller employers who have created plenty of jobs and high-level employees of small businesses who are fairly well-compensated in terms of salary if not benefits,. GWB is of course not solely and personally to blame for the current health-care fiasco, which has been developing willy-nilly over time since before any of us were born. However, the wing-nut fringe of the Republican party ~ that is to say, the currently ascendant theocratic neoconservative idealogues who adopted Georgie boy as their puppet, paid the way for his nomination, and pulled strings to assure his election(s) ~ THEY'RE very much to blame, for their desperate campaign of lies and innuendo against the Clinton administration's early efforts to start exploring ways to reform health care. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: jpk Date: 09 May 05 - 05:56 PM to frogprince.martin gibson does exist, he justs puts an extra letter in middle,it is really MARTIN GIBON. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST,?? Date: 09 May 05 - 06:47 PM I've never been to a gar bar. They serve fish there? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST,?? Date: 09 May 05 - 06:49 PM But gar don't walk, they swim. MG doesn't know much about anything, does he? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: harpgirl Date: 09 May 05 - 06:59 PM Mary, that is a scarey and upsetting story. I wrote out a check for 808.95 today to reinstate my son on my insurance since they drop him every semester and demand that I sign a notarized form testifying to the fact that I support him. In a few months I won't be able to keep him on my insurance and we will have to do something else. But there might be some local HMO's that Bobert could buy into besides Anthem. There just isn't any good health insurance programs at this point. I'm sure our little psychopath Lepus Rex, oh I mean Marvin Gibbon doesn't have any insurance where he works as a teacher's aid. But he thinks he knows what corporate america is doing for insurance and he is just plain wrong. Corporations are cancelling insurance coverage all the time and no one pays less than 200 a month for family coverage. Most pay much more. We desperately need an approach like Canada's. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: IvanB Date: 09 May 05 - 07:17 PM Bobert, you may want to think about filing a complaint with your state's insurance commission (or whatever they might call the agency that regulates insurers in your state). These folks control whether an insurance company is allowed to do business in a given state and, believe me, I know that, in Michigan at least, this sort of action on the part of insurers is something they want to hear about. If the company's business in the state is lucrative enough they certainly won't want the commission looking too closely at them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 09 May 05 - 08:36 PM Hey, like I said, we're gonna file the appeal... But really, it is a shanme that this country has this one issue so totally screwed up in raltion to every other developed nation in the world... I'm thinkin that if I can't find any decent health insurance that I'll just take that $800 plus and put it into a savings account and just hope that I don't have a biggie somewhere down the road.... I mean, looking back the last ten years, the health insurance industry has gotten me for about $60,000 over what I got back... But ya' hate going that way 'cause if the biggie comes along, you loose everything... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Once Famous Date: 09 May 05 - 08:57 PM Gay bar. Harpgirl, Lepus Rex and I are not the same. In fact, him and I have gotten into it together on this forum at one time or another. I would also ask that Joe Offer put his two cents worth in to that effect or possibly Brucie. [bleep - for antisocial behavior] So harpgirl, though I have considered the fact that you and dianavan are the same, I don't think that you are as much of a flaming dick-hating feminist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: harpgirl Date: 09 May 05 - 09:43 PM Nope, le pus I just despise you....Go ahead and take him on now, Marvin. I wanta see it again.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 10 May 05 - 01:31 PM Bobert, Sorry to hear about you losing your coverage. That really sucks. Susu and I have the same insurance carrier and are not happy at all with their dealings up to date. If you find another carrier at a decent cost, consider it a blessing that you aren't with Anthem anymore. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: GUEST,perplexed Date: 10 May 05 - 02:27 PM Well, Let's look at it this way. If the unemployment number are going down and uninsured numbers are going up then it seems to me by the process of LOGICAL thinking that either taxes are too high for the individual or employers can't offer benefits like once before because the corporate taxes are too high. That offers another question....why is it that you guys believe that healthcare is a RIGHT? I'll admit that it would be nice if everybody had it but at the expense of everybody else? That is unacceptable. Even the socialistic idea of universal healthcare sounds good on the surface but look at Canada....I read a story a few weeks back about people having to stand in long lines and waiting weeks and weeks to see a doctor and to have tests done. (I will look for the story and link to it if I can) That too, is unacceptable. The last time that I read the Bill of Rights, I didn't see where it was written that anybody should have the right of government healthcare or any healthcare for that matter. So those that do have it should be grateful and those that don't should strive to get it. "Of course, the current labyrinth of private insurers, each with its own system of codes and categories, etc. has created a huge number of good white-collar jobs that would disappear if and when the process gets streamlined and all that private-sector paperwork gets eliminated." The above quote was from PoppaGator's post earlier. Your idea of socialized medicine would do nothing but reverse the direction that the country is headed it as far as job creation and growth. What you are supporting is an idea that would do nothing but depress an economy that has seen significant growth in the last four years. The numbers quoted above puts us at about 14% of the US population that's currently without some type of healthcare. That is a shame. But to tell the other 86% that do have it that some of them may lose their jobs and current coverage in order for the other 14% to have it is taking a huge leap backwards. Think, people, Think. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bobert Date: 10 May 05 - 04:38 PM Some real fuzzy math there, hubby... Additionally, do you believe that a health insurance company has the right to drop you if you get sick? And as fir thinkin', yeah, I think me and the P-Vine are gettin' screwed... Anthem is $60,000 to the good with us as it stands and I the fact that they can just drop us ought to be criminal.... But it isn't... It's a civil matter and guess what? Well, I'll tell ya what. I don't know if you know much about civil law but a vastly disporportunate cases are won by the richer party who can spend more on lawyers... Bobert v. Anthem? Ha... Like I got no chance at all in any civil court in the land... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 10 May 05 - 04:42 PM and your point is? Just because I believe it is not a "right" to have health insurance doesn't mean that I don't feel bad whenever somebody loses their current coverage due to that person filing a claim. Bobert has worked and paid to have this coverage and it is very unfortunate that now he and his wife has lost it not due to anything that they have personally done. Anthem BC/BS has a history of doing dealings like this and might very well need to be investigated by the insurance commission. If my company offered another carrier instead of Anthem then I would be extremely happy. They don't have to offer ANY type of coverage at all for the employees. That's why they call them "BENEFITS". "Perplexed" is the perfect name for you. It must describe how you live your life. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: jpk Date: 10 May 05 - 07:10 PM yes mr gibon i am light on my feet,with a mean right and a better left.i hope yours is all paid up,before you need it again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: Bev and Jerry Date: 10 May 05 - 07:12 PM "If the unemployment number are going down and uninsured numbers are going up then it seems to me by the process of LOGICAL thinking that either taxes are too high for the individual or employers can't offer benefits like once before because the corporate taxes are too high." Guest, perplexed: Your LOGICAL thinking leaves out a lot of other possibilities. Like taxes are low enough but the cost of health care is so high that neither individuals or employer's can afford it. And, yes, let's look at Canada. While you are reporting anecdotal evidence, the facts are that Canada spends about half as much per capita on health care as the U.S. does and they have a higher life expectancy and a much lower infant mortality rate. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Now 45,000,002 Uninsured.... From: CarolC Date: 10 May 05 - 07:21 PM So why are the insurance carriers taking people's money if they are not willing to provide the service for which they are taking the money? Isn't that stealing? Isn't stealing illegal? And what is the point of having insurance companies (and paying them money) if they aren't going to take care of people when they get sick? Isn't that the entire reason for their existance? Think, Hubby, think. |
