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Subject: So here I am then From: Iarf Date: 12 Nov 00 - 07:46 PM I have just joined this list. It really is magnanimous of me I realise. So what happens on this list. Just a lot sycophants talking about what they would like to do but can't......and what is this Manchester Gathering that keeps cropping up. (Manchester real world not Manchester USA) Is it worth the time and efforts of a real performer turning up? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Amergin Date: 12 Nov 00 - 07:52 PM Oh look, everyone, Michael Jackson decided to join us.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MK Date: 12 Nov 00 - 08:12 PM When you die in your own arms, I'll be glad to send a wreath. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: paddymac Date: 12 Nov 00 - 08:14 PM Maybe we're dealing with a prankster here. It's not salty enough to be 'Spaw (unless he's in one of his occasional nice-guy moods), and it's not Conrad 'cause it's not "klannish" enough, and it's not sweet enough to be Praise. Doesn't really sound like gargoyle either. It's probably not Michael, unless he's finished buying up all the copyrights in the music world has has nothing else to do. Maybe Sherlock Holmes coulld help us figure this one out. First clue: self-proclaimed jingoistic star who likes to show his/her ass. Ring a bell with anybody? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 00 - 08:46 PM Oh, I don't know.........this person is probably right.........they really are probably way to talented to hang out with the likes of us..........You want we should leave............or will you? Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Banjer Date: 12 Nov 00 - 08:53 PM Well the first clue I see is that he is evidently from the other side of the pond. Thank goodness for that, We have enough pompous asses without claiming another one. He does use British spelling on some of the words. (another point in our favor) If he WAS a real performer it seems he would know about the Manchester Gathering. Nah, just another snotball trying to impress those that can't be impressed by mediocraty or bad manners. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Nov 00 - 10:26 PM Well, I'd have to say I'm surprised that the poster who began this rather inane thread is willing to surrender his "bollox" to complete strangers on such a slender pretext. This assuming that we would want them, which I don't think we do... As for "sycophants talking about what they would like to do but can't"...ha! ha! I laugh with utter disdain. I can play and write a folksong better than you can any day of the week, you pretentious pissant, famous or not. Just watch me.
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Nov 00 - 10:29 PM Oh, BTW, that was a joke, I hope ya understand...just matching the spirit of the original post, you see. I mean, if he can say "bollox" then why can't I say "pissant"? A joke like... :-D okay? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Troll Date: 12 Nov 00 - 10:40 PM I presume from the general tone of the original posting that this person thinks rather well of him/herself and desires that we should also. It's been a slow day. I'll consider it. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Nov 00 - 10:48 PM Yeah. I even considered buying one of his records once...then I went for a bike ride instead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jon Freeman Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:05 PM Famous Bollox, nobody seems to have addressed your question yet. You are clearly too good for us and it would not be worth your while turning up in Manchester unless you are prepared to lower yourself by mixing with decent friendly people. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:07 PM I think we're over-reacting here folks. We have some fine and top quality performers already here at Mudact and I would like to have many more. We seem to have acquired another here on this thread and I want to welcome him/her to the 'Cat personally, and I am anxious to hear more about what they have to teach us in terms of performance and of course the world of folk. So let me apologize for my compatriots here and offer you these words of welcome: Fuck off you piece of shit rat bastard and take your friggin' worthless ass to some other site that might enjoy a fuckin' shit-eating cocksucker like yourself. If for any reason you think your pissant worthless, siteating, self needs to stay here, then I suggest you have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:09 PM shiteating......although siteating probably works too since this asshole would probably eat the crotch out of leper's underwear. Spaw(:<)) |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Matt_R Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:12 PM O my God it's Liam! |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: WyoWoman Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:52 PM Catspaw, I do so appreciate the restraint you showed our would-be friend ... ww |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 12 Nov 00 - 11:56 PM WW. Spaw is just getting softer every day, ain't he? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 02:13 AM I am honored to have been considered but the sweetness level is not the reason it isn't me. Ask my friends, I can be just as much of an a**hole as anyone else!! No, it's that of course I would spell it BOLLOCKS. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: CarolC Date: 13 Nov 00 - 03:07 AM Well, at least s/he used a BS prefix before the thread title. (Pretty impressive for a first time poster. Must have done a lot of studying up on the Mudcat before posting.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 03:56 AM About time we had a decent bit of flaming! Cheers catspaw49. (Is that like a 69 that doesn't quite make the grade BTW????) I don't reckon it is a British poster. Anyone can use the correct spelling of words. I agree that it takes a Brit to be so pompous (only because we are better than the rest of the world you understand) but we would never be so obvious. I reckon it is far more likely to be someone from the colonies who would like to be a true Brit but doesn't quite make the grade...;-) Cheerie pip D the G |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 04:42 AM Oh - and the spelling of Bollox looks like a computing thing and everyone knows that the Americans lead the field in all things cyber... |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Gervase Date: 13 Nov 00 - 05:20 AM 'Spaw, you silver-tongued, smooth talking lounge-lizard - you could charm the pants off anyone with honeyed phrases like that. Should you get fed up with making dulcimers, I'm sure a career beckons in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office! |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Lena Date: 13 Nov 00 - 05:28 AM Little Hawk!!!Such a long time since I last read of you!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: GUEST,Greyeyes (at work) Date: 13 Nov 00 - 07:46 AM I'd just like to say that it definitely isn't me, whoever it is. I'd also like to refute the above suggestion that Catspaw could charm the pants off anyone. My pants are absolutely Spaw-proof. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Troll Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:07 AM Mine too. Karen, on the other hand...*BG* troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: GUEST,I am really famous and bollox to you lot Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:10 AM 23 by 1300 (GMT). Not bad but I expected better. Some of the postings were quite interesting but no real napalm.The grammar (in the main) was adequate and spelling reasonable , but content (particularly the expletives)lacking in focus and clarity.I do hope the performers amongst you are better in your chosen disciplines than you are at flaming. I did however enjoy Catspaw49. His /Her natural sense of vitriol is a gift not to be wasted lightly. See you (or some of you) in Manchester. I will be wearing a flack jacket with matching chobham armour and playing a Bhodran. (I know you all love Bhodran players who join in with you 9/8 slip jig time during ballads). |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Allan C. Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:27 AM I have searched the place from stem to stern but have yet to locate the red velvet carpet. It is my fervent hope and fondest desire that if I were to play "Irish Rover" on my copy-cat version of a Kay guitar, you might deem it appropriate to accompany me on your Bhodran. (I presume it must be gold plated or something. The run-of-the-mill bhodrans I have seen so far are not allowed to be capitalized.) BTW, don't be too very impressed by the 23 postings. We get that many on threads which say no more than "I am looking for a song". |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:32 AM Allan C, I thought you would be the last person to comment on how many postings a thread title may attract, or perhaps you are proud of "Killing the Thread" after all - 440 at last count, I think!!!! ;-) Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Allan C. Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:39 AM Who knows, Jon? Maybe I will be the last. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jeri Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:47 AM Maybe one day, some knowledgable soul in the UK will explain the concept of "piss-taking" to us (mostly) clueless Americans. Until then, you play a bodhran and you're famous?! HAHAHAHAHA! |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:47 AM Tish, poo and shame also Alan C! There you go, trying to correct someones English and then spelling capitalised with a 'z'. I'm surprised you did not go the whole hog and use Kay Kopy Kat guitar... I reckon Bhodran should be spelt with a capital anyway. It is named after the famous Irish saint of rhythm, St Bhod, of whom legend has it; "The musicians were ill pleased with the cacophany caused. Faced with the threat of having his skin taken from him, Bhod ran away.....:-) I like the idea of a gold plated Bhodran BTW - Played with a velvet ribbon. Cheers D the G |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:56 AM Whooops! Just saw another thread and must apologise to Alan C - Sorry Alan and many happy returns. You can be forgiven anything on your birthday. After all it could be a celebratory slurp or two talking, or the toll of another year befuddling the brain cells.
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Allan C. Date: 13 Nov 00 - 09:24 AM Thanks for the good wishes, Dave. Ya know, out here in the sticks of West Virginia, we are forced to spell things with an indigenous accent. If I were across the wide, wide waters, I would, of course, have spelled it with an "s". With or without a slurp, I fully admit to being constantly befuddled. Allan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: KingBrilliant Date: 13 Nov 00 - 09:37 AM If you're so bleeding famous then how come we don't know who you are? On the other hand, I know who I am - so I reckon I'm more famous then. Can't go to Manchester though - sob. Kris |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 09:40 AM I've forgotten who I am so I dunno if I am famous or not. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: kendall Date: 13 Nov 00 - 09:51 AM Dont sugar coat it spaw. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: nutty Date: 13 Nov 00 - 11:03 AM I suspect that this gentleman ( I'm sure it's a man ) may be rather smaller than his ego. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Nov 00 - 11:14 AM Oh, I'd say the dude has a lot of small things about him........Probably does has one nut the size of a pea, but the other is real tiny..........Not to mention a pecker about the size of a half-eaten cocktail wienie. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Max Date: 13 Nov 00 - 12:02 PM Without commenting on any real content or behavior in this thread, I would just like to take the opportunity to remind everyone that behind these words lie real people. We may get a lot of folks new to our community here that are expatriates of older, less civil, more common bulletin board systems out there on the net. Perhaps taking such a aggressive attitude when introducing oneself is merely a defensive strategy. Kind of like your first day at a new prison… gonna be a thug or a little bitch? So to you, "I am really famous and bollox to you lot", this is a different kind of forum. Many of us actually know each other in the real world, and many others will soon meet. This place is real, and we try to respect each other because we never know when we may need a place to stay, or a snog, or a prayer, or people to show up at our gig… We are more than just words on these pages. And to my fellow Mudcatters, these refugees come to the Mudcat scared and confused that the Mudcat is like other forums. We need to consider a strategy for putting out their flame while welcoming and educating them with an assumption, a leap of faith if you will, that they have something to offer. IARFABTYL is not the first to enter with this attitude and I am sure he will not be the last. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 12:05 PM I am LOL at the idea that someone would inflict upon himself the typing of such a LONG name, and not just join to make the posting easier! Long way to go to get a small laff! These posts also do not rise to the level set by our dear friend and Mudcat member Davecoje. I think his works should be studied and, if possible, emulated. "Sir, I know Davecoje, and you are no Davecoje!" I think Catspaw posted it himself just so he could flame his own ass, having run low on Vegemite. With Karen out of the house, he must have started talking to himself, and being sleep deprived, accidentally gave rise to a new character. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: annamill Date: 13 Nov 00 - 12:05 PM I love you Max! Annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 12:47 PM LOL!!!!!!! Annamill for Queen!!!! LOL!!! Max!!! hahahhh!!!! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: nutty Date: 13 Nov 00 - 12:49 PM Max and Praise - after posting I also got to thinking about the reasons behind the thread and am very sad that ' I am really famous ' seems to have missed the main point of Mudcat. Quite apart from the song site and forum , there is the opportunity to be part of a global family which unlike your own family you can choose to join. No one who has read the forum can fail to realise the genuine nature of the care , kindness and support shown to others. I would love to meet some of the people I have spoken to, although this is unlikely, as I have yet to meet anyone who has not made me feel welcome .I would say to ' I'm really famous ' stop hiding - come and join us it's a great place to be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Kim C Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:02 PM I'm an internationally known independent recording artist myself. So there. :P (okay, one person in Ireland has a copy of my tape. But that counts!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:13 PM Truthfully Max, I haven't seen anyone else enter with that attitude. More are as Praise said of Dave, and those types are still around and kickin' and, like Dave, valued members and posters. You oughta' know we don't greet everyone like this. And in a lot of cases on this thread, there was an element of mainly fun involved because I don't think anyone took it seriously. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that our new "member" is an old member with a different e-mail. I'm sure this will be denied, but its likely. Go back and check the past 50 or 100 ne members and you'll find that this group and many on this thread have been very welcoming and helpful. And with the exception of my buddy Conrad, I am happy that anyone and everyone are here. We know there are some refugees from some nasty places, but preemptive strikes aren't generally their style. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: mousethief Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:18 PM Now that we've milked this for just about all it's worth, I think we should turn this into another limerick thread, since you can never have enough of those, whereas pointless threads by obnoxious flamers are a dime a dozen, and that's not even on sale. Here goes:
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: annamill Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:42 PM Praise, I was trying to be sincere! I think Max's attitude a commendable one. I wasn't ridiculing our boy. I was sending what I felt was an empathetic message of love for what seemed to be a true attempt at understanding Bullox. (No anger, I'm not being mean nor is this post meant to flame in anyway) Love, annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:44 PM Hey famous, welcome to The Mudcat Cafe--a magazine dedicated to politics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:49 PM Good idea, Alex.
Ye wanderers, welcome to 'Cat. (Max and I had cross-posted and so I thought Annamill was joking that it was Max!!) Look, I have to call them as I see them. I've worked hard to help get thorny newcomers incorporated when they are just being themselves. But sometimes the best I can come up with is to take people at face value. I don't go post-detecting, either, like a lot of members do, to try to figure out who the heck someone actually "is." I just call 'em as I see 'em. But if I've been off, I'm sorry. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Clifton53 Date: 13 Nov 00 - 01:51 PM A guest with a mighty blow torch, Was lookin' for 'catters to scorch, 'Til he messed with the man With gas in his can, And he got himself blown off the porch! Clifton |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Iarf Date: 13 Nov 00 - 02:21 PM I just hate it when people become so reasonable and it is worse when a high degree of perspicuity is demonstrated. It ruins the cyber life of small minded people like myself. Could you not just try and be a little less understanding and perhaps a mote more unforgiving. On a different topic (just praying that I am not committing any infringement of protocol by switching topics midstream , I would hate to do that) could someone send me the words to Londons Ordinary , it really is such a bore copying them off a CD and the Bodleian only have manuscript images which can't be printed (effectively , even by myself). I wish to do the definitive version of this intricate little ditty. In Anticipation.....IARF....... |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 02:26 PM Sugar Dog arf, too. Really, IARF, if you want that kind of repartee, Davecoje is your man. Send him a PM, and I'm sure you'll be pleased at what develops! Know any good limericks? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 00 - 02:28 PM Is it Mikey in starry L.A.? Or some bounder back in the U.K.? Whoe'er it may be He's out of his tree And he's choked on his own foot of clay Lena - Hi there! I've been all over on Mudcat lately, so I guess we just weren't on the same threads. Nice to hear from you. Spaw - I like your sensitivity and good taste, as always. Well done. Ha! Ha! I love it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jeri Date: 13 Nov 00 - 02:53 PM Dear Mr Famous, you can switch topics mid-stream if you'd like, but both peasants and famous persons such as yourself who aren't reading this thread may miss the question. It would be a better idea to start a new thread with something like "Lyr Req: Londons Ordinary" in the title. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Nov 00 - 03:03 PM Like I said to you Max............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MMario Date: 13 Nov 00 - 03:47 PM IARFABTYL - can't figure out how to do it, eh?
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Mickey191 Date: 13 Nov 00 - 07:32 PM While I don't like to argue, once in my life I hope I'll be mad enough at someone to say,"You would probably eat the crotch out of a leper's underwear." What a line! I'm indebted to you Catspaw. Slainte |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Nov 00 - 07:50 PM Yeh!!! The lepers crotch bit is up there with "May the hole in your arse heal up" and "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits". I love a good insult or curse. My best (Being a subtle and sensitive soul) is "FUCK OFF YOU STUPID GOBSHITE" Not that I would use that here of course....:-) D the G |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Iarf Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:19 PM I am indebted to you MMario , please accept my thanks. Five verses I didn't have.They don't scan too well but with my abilities a simple rewrite will have them perfect.It appears that I was right after all. This Mudcat thing , if used correctly , really works! Thanks to all the contributors to this thread , some of whom were mildly amusing and others most insultingly forthright and indeed probably no more than I "apparently" deserved. But why oh why the bad language? it was largely gratuitous and may have caused offence to the more gentle spirits who read it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Ebbie Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:21 PM IARF is funny but not grammatically correct. IISF comes closer. Eb |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: paddymac Date: 13 Nov 00 - 10:51 PM a most humble effort:
A poster from over the ocean
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Naemanson Date: 13 Nov 00 - 10:57 PM Lurking and laughing. I think this guy is just yanking chains. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Troll Date: 13 Nov 00 - 11:50 PM No doubt he was merely testing our mettle. troll...who suffers from mettle fatigue |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: John P Date: 14 Nov 00 - 12:29 AM A new poster came on with a fling - His own praises he wanted to sing. But the louder the brag, The shorter the shag, But not quite as short as his thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Nov 00 - 12:58 AM Please forgive my fellow Mudcatters for any disrespect they may have shown you,Mr Renbourne,and especially for the "leper's crotch" bit.If I send you my copy of Basket of Light could you get Mr Jansch to sign it for me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:13 AM You're on a real roll lately Leej...LMAO!!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Bugsy Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:20 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:31 AM DAMN!!! Bugsy, you just keep cranking those out don't you? Beautfully done and who could possibly disagree? I am envious of your silver-tongued ways! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Mickey191 Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:53 AM Is there a mudcat dictionary where I can look up some of the abbreviations used so often in the forum. Currently wondering what LMAO_ARF_IISF_LOL mean. Any help? Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Bugsy Date: 14 Nov 00 - 02:18 AM 'Spaw, it's my way of saying "I can't be bothered to comment." Cheers
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Ebbie Date: 14 Nov 00 - 03:05 AM Mickey191, I'll clear up my nonsensical bit. Notice that IARF is the acronym for the latest and most famous -if we can believe it- Mudcat member: I Am Really Famous, etc. I just did a little wordplay on "I ar f". Anyone can see that's not grammatical since I is singular and can't be used in a plural verb phrase. Therefore since 'is' is singular, surely "I is f" is more grammatical. Now, aren't you sorry you asked... Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Nov 00 - 05:40 AM Don't understand the wordplay, Ebbie. Sureley IarF is the first initials of I Am Realy Famous and now becomes larf (laugh). I know I may be really stoopid but how does IisF fit in??? Anyway - the lyric request -
the drunks at ??? to the man in the moon the (?) will dine at the Lyon Surely, with the Manchester, UK, gathering going on it must be the Mudcatters dine at the (White) Lion...:-) Cheers D the G |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Naemanson Date: 14 Nov 00 - 08:19 AM But Dave, you aren't taking into account the OTHER Mudcat Manchester gathering which has been described as "the largest Mudcat gathering to date" by some of our esteemed brothers and sisters. Yes, you too can partake in the first ever Manchester to Manchester TransAtlantic Mudcat Music Party! |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: John P Date: 14 Nov 00 - 09:16 AM OK, let's try my limerick again, with line breaks this time.
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MMario Date: 14 Nov 00 - 09:30 AM IARF - can't help the scansion, that's what was written...
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: KingBrilliant Date: 14 Nov 00 - 09:52 AM Well Mr Bollox - I probably must be a gentle soul. All the swearing and spitefulness is getting on my nerves. This may be a very funny bit of p-taking, but where genital-size has to come into it escapes me somewhat. Being rude just for the sake of it is pretty juvenile, and generally betokens a lack of anything worthwhile to say. Kris |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jeri Date: 14 Nov 00 - 10:07 AM Kris, I think you're agreeing with Mr Bollox. I still think he came here looking for a friendly bit of flaming to break the ice and some people didn't see it - or missed the intended smile and wink. Some did, but have a different way of going about playing. Of course, if it's Catspaw you're talking about, "different" is an understatement. *smile/wink* |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MMario Date: 14 Nov 00 - 10:28 AM I find it both amusing and a little sick that someone who would come into a forum with a self-introduction such as IARF... and then complain about "bad language" and extend worry about "gentle readers". This is obviously just *my* opinion. And while I didn't mind transcribing Londons Ordinary to the best of my ability...I would also point out that implying that the time of the members of this forum is less valuable then IARF's time really isn't a very political way of asking for help. Then there is the claim that the words of the original broadside don't scan well enough... IARF is functioning as one of the more obvious types of web "trolls"; whether by intent, natural incination or for some unknown reason. My reaction is "play with fire, expect to get burned" - and also that if you spray fuel on a lit flame, don't blame the fire if bystanders get hurt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 14 Nov 00 - 10:55 AM I _DO_ have to say that I detect a not-inconsiderable lump of tongue in IARF's cheek. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 14 Nov 00 - 10:57 AM Kris--my words exactly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: KingBrilliant Date: 14 Nov 00 - 10:58 AM I doubt whether Mr Bollox was sincere in his worries about bad language & gentle readers. Nevertheless there is bad language & there are gentle readers (ish). However its the idle, nothing better to do, nastiness by default that just gets really wearing. Its like, here we go again... It's irksome. I'm irked. Perhaps I've misplaced my sense of humour though - or just tired of the joke. kris (aka wet blanket) |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jeri Date: 14 Nov 00 - 11:20 AM OK, I'm feeling a bit better now. This isn't quality, but at least I'm doing my best to welcome Mr Bollox "I have just joined this list. It really is magnanimous of me I realise." Well, we all appreciate your little gesture, I'm sure. You probably just barely found the time to join between May Day gigs. It probably took you several months just to find the "on" button on your computer, and the bells probably kept getting tangled in all those electrical wires. "So what happens on this list. Just a lot sycophants talking about what they would like to do but can't......" So far, there has been no one that has met our rigid requirements for sycophancy. We have a checklist. It should be in the FAQ. If you play bodhran in public, you're automatically disqualified. Also if you mis-spell it. We can't really find it in our hearts to suck up to someone who moves "h"s around on a whim. "and what is this Manchester Gathering that keeps cropping up. (Manchester real world not Manchester USA) Is it worth the time and efforts of a real performer turning up?" Have your agent get in touch. I'm sure someone will call. (By the way, you (UK) may have the most famous Manchester, but we've (US) got more of them. Nyah, nyah.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: mousethief Date: 14 Nov 00 - 11:30 AM America's not in the real world? Oh hell. Here we've had virtual reality for over 200 years and nobody thought to patent it.
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Nov 00 - 11:36 AM I can easily cope with the 'more important than you' attitude. I have to everyday on the roads. Someone (usualy driving a BMW or Merc) decides that whatever they are doing is more important than me. They cut in front at queues; expect to be let back in when they purposely join the wrong lane to gain time; behave in a generaly boorish or inconsiderate manner and cheese a lot of people off. (Rant off) I feel sorry for them. If life/work/home life is that hectic they are going to die of a heart attack soon anyway. Let them be I say - you could be saving a life. I don't think Iarf is in this category though. You would never get a BMW driver with the sense of humour to say "I will be the one in the flack jacket...". They are just far to important to realise they have caused offence! As to bad language. Guilty as charged. I had forgotten that this is a public place. I wouldn't dream of using the language I used earlier in, say, the library or on a bus, so why should I do it here??? I stop forthwith and if I lapse I request that someone come and give me a clip round the ear'ole. Dave the repentant Gnome |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Nov 00 - 12:13 PM King Brilliant - you said "Being rude just for the sake of it is pretty juvenile, and generally betokens a lack of anything worthwhile to say." Yes, generally in life I would agree with that. I am very seldom heard to swear gratuitously. I usually have to have a pretty compelling reason to do so. However, those of us who DO have any number of worthwhile things to say, and do so frequently...well, we just HAVE to temper it occasionally with an outburst of juvenile rudeness on Mudcat. You see, in this way we are enabled to avoid the inevitable accusations of exhibiting ivory-tower pretentiousness and a holier-than-thou attitude which would no doubt come our way without these period lapses in good taste. Bollox did us all a favour by providing us with a golden opportunity to do so, and probably deserves at least a small measure of gratitude for so doing... :-) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: GUEST,I am really famous and bollox to you lot Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:02 PM My thanks once again to MMario. Where are you finding them?. The missing words are "till taken and TRIED up holbourn they RIDE". But another three (new to me)verses you have kindly provided. The song is becoming unmanageable by it's very size (something , apparently , I have a problem with) and I must beg your leave to edit some verses out to enable a masterful performance. May I also assure KingBrilliant that I was indeed sincere about bad language. Apart from my single use of the word bollox I am innocent of using bad language in any of my postings. I am possibly guilty as charged on all the other counts of arrogance , pomposity , mizpelling bowran , bad grammar etc. etc. Yes I expected flames and healthy vitriol but why cloud it with unpleasant language?. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MMario Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:25 PM IARF - I just read them off the Bodlian site. took less then a couple minutes each time. The quality of reproduction there really isn't the best, though, is it? I suspect some of the difficulty with the scansion may lie in changes in pronunciation; and may even lie with the idiosyncratic (is that a word?) pronunciation of the original author. I know there have been verses which I could not recite or sing in a set rhythm, which other people by very minor changes in pronunciation could. Do you have a tune for this? Can you post and or transmit it in some way? also your other verses? Would you be willing to? I'd like to get it done up in "proper" format and submit to the DT, if there are no objections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Naemanson Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:49 PM Jeri, [hbodran] am [bhodran] I [bohdran] disqualified [bodrhan] if [bodrahn] I [bodranh] WANT [hhhhran] to [bodhhhh] play [bohhhan] the bodhran? |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: mousethief Date: 14 Nov 00 - 01:53 PM Is it just me or does "iarf" sound like the noise one makes while voiding one's stomach? Or not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: MMario Date: 14 Nov 00 - 02:24 PM MT - it either does, or doesn't, depending. It also sounds like Popeye in a good mood. Sorta. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Jeri Date: 14 Nov 00 - 03:24 PM Naemanson, are you disqualified from being sucked up to? Yes. I think the only person we suck up to around here is Max, but we complain to him too. I've seen people being extraordinarily nice to Joe Offer, but only when they wanted a typo fixed. MMario, I don't know the tune to the song, but I have no problem getting it to fit a set rhythm. (Same, basically, as a limerick.) Of course I may be doing something weird and not realizing it when I read the words. It IS one heck of a long song, though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Nov 00 - 04:03 PM Once I get my turntable mended I may be able to record the track of a vinyl album I have by Jolly Jack - If I can get the turntable output into the input of my sound card that is. I will give it a try anyway. If anyone else does it first PM me to let me know. Cheers D the G |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Mrs.Duck Date: 15 Nov 00 - 12:40 PM Do we think Mr. Bollox (is that as in gateaux?) will be playing his bohdran or wearing it in Manchester?Spaw I just love your approach to making a guy feel welcome!!!!!!Of course you're probably the most (in)famous person here so I guess that's your privilege.xxxxxxxx |
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Subject: RE: BS: So here I am then From: Noreen Date: 17 Nov 00 - 08:27 AM Good line, Mrs. Duck! LOL! ...a gold-plated bodhran round his neck... or he may be a most civil and genteel character in real life... we shall see, perhaps? Noreen |