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BS: BNP: What would you do?

GUEST,Ellie 23 May 09 - 02:07 PM
jeddy 23 May 09 - 02:14 PM
SPB-Cooperator 23 May 09 - 02:23 PM
SPB-Cooperator 23 May 09 - 02:30 PM
Richard Bridge 23 May 09 - 03:00 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Ellie
Date: 23 May 09 - 02:07 PM

Oh you poor soul! The Bloated Broadcasting Company ! Is that the best you can do ? I think the whole world and their dogs now know all about them ! I suggest you read up on your history, that is if you know any. I think that you are probably a child of the lib/lab/con who wasn't taught history but have been brain washed with Marxism. Never mind it's not too late. You could always do an Open University degree and catch up !


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 23 May 09 - 02:14 PM

ellie to whom are you talking to?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 02:23 PM

You will go some way to beginning to look respectable when.

(1) You voluntary send a dossier to the Crown Prosecution Service of all illegal activities (including incitement and conspiracy) by your members not just publically, but also in private meetings

(2) You voluntary appear as witness for the prosecution for all the above.

(3) The BNP denounces combat 18 and all BNP members who have had any contact with them.

(4) That you openly admit the details of all BNP canditdates with criminal convictions related to incitement and violence in your election material.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 02:30 PM

oh and Ellie - members of the folk world - i.e. those of us not hiding behind anonymity probably each have more interest and knowledge of history in their little fingers than the whole of the BNP.

A large part of folk song reflects the social history - and folk song played a major part in the civil rights movement.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 May 09 - 03:00 PM

Err- fascinating. The EU is Marxist? For heaven's sake try really hard to read a little bit of elementary EU law. The EU started life as the Common Market - with free movement of workers, goods, services and capital.   That's what it was for: the benefit of the marketplace. The underlying concept of the EU is capitalist.

And if I have to pick a broadcasting company that is the least biassed and most balanced in the world - I'll pick the BBC. I have some idea what I'm talking about, having been an entertainment and media lawyer for over 30 years. The BBC of course was the main source of truth to those occupied by the third Reich: maybe that's why you don't like it.

If the BBC is telling lies about you, why not sue it? Before you shoot your mouth off, I know the answer. Honestly I do. One of my fields of expertise is libel advice. Now speculate how I might know.

And before you tell me I know jack about inner cities, I teach some of the time near the Elephant and Castle, and am frequently the only white person on the street or in the bus on the way home. The oafs I see making trouble are more often than not white, rather than black. Over 90% of my students there are not WASP.

Beowulf, this is not the mischief making of Ratatosk the messenger.



Anonymous Guest with capital letters - you need to consider the roots of all the economic evils you cite. It was not Marxism. It was capitalism. But please, astound us with your ability and learing and explain how you are going to create an economy for the good of the people. If you have any ideas, the world is waiting right now for a way to cure the economic mess - and the last recession was cured by what the USA then thought of as socialist construction programmes (and the Germans have condemned as simple Keyesianism). But consider, the only two programmes showing any sign of working so far are the UK under Gordon Brown (at last showing SOME socialist principles in some places) and the USA - under what too many Americans call Barak Obama's socialism.

Also explain how you are going to create a National Health Service without black doctors and nurses, a nationalised rail service without the thousands of West Indians who came here when the UK was desperate for their labour, a functioning economic environment when many facilities depend on immigrant workers. Where will you buy a tin of Tennants and 10 cheap cigarettes after 9 pm when there are no Asian run corner shops? Have you been to a Post Office lately? Who served you? You cannot expect all these contributors to the wellbeing of the country to stay and work here without a level laying field and an equal opportunity of success.

What are you going to do about farming? The fields are still here (apart from the ones covered in new houses). Who lives in the houses? You do. Who buys cheap imported food? You do. Who works in the fields for the food we do grow here? I somehow don't believe that's you. Everyone picking the crops near my home appears Eastern European.

What are you going to do about building? THe builder about to start work on my house is Hungarian. Why? Because he came consistently well recommended, without a single report of the ripoffs from ENglish builders (the ones who made Esther Rantzen rich). Have you watched the TV programmes about workmen from hell? Who are they (mostly)?

Who were the banks and bankers who were fooled out of their money (our money)? Why, mostly English and Scottish companies, run by the English and Scottish, and regulated by the English and Scottish. How are you going to do that differently?

Who dismantled exchange control, so that foreign speculators could bankrupt our banks? Why, the only Englishwoman you admire, Margaret Thatcher. The same person who laid waste to our industries and the jobs of our workers for doctrinaire capitalist reasons.

Education: come on, what are you going to do? Remember I have recently been teaching in two universities, one where hardly any of my students are white, and one where almost all are. I also not long ago taught in a college of further education (I hope you know the difference) - and the managers who reneged on my entry deal were white and the idle and talkative students who made teaching there unsatisfying were the white ones.

Law and Order: You do remember the corruption of the old Sweeney don't you? Who ran it? White men like you. Name our most famous criminal gangs? The Krays and the Richardson Family. White men like you. I have a friend who until recently rented his used car lot from Charlie Richardson. Don't tell me I don't know.

I suppose you still believe that Mussolini made the Italian trains run on time.

Sometimes I despair about evolution, I really do.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 03:17 PM

oh, and ellie....

I suppose you would like to go back the the imperialistic "good old days" of the British Empire, where our economy thrived on the back of exploiting as much of the rest of the world we could get away with.

Stripping other countries of its wealth and resources, and exploiting their workers in the process.

oh, and Ellie as you are so interested in history, find out how many of the Indian army died in the 2nd world war defending the freedoms that you now enjoy and then tell me that you are not proud to have Indian people living here ... and Nepalese.

And while you at it. think about how we should be proud to live in a country where asylum seekers often give up everything in their own country, often including family members where they know they can be safe from persecution.

and when you start going on about how good living was 50 years ago, then as a history expert tell me how many working class people left school at 14 years old, tell me whether the infant mortality rate from childhood diseases has gone up or down.

Do you have your own colour tv, automatic washing machine, dare I say a car, a hifi, a computer? Has the standard of living really deteriorated that much over 50 years?

Your the historian... go on tell me.......

How many wars have there been between EU member states since the Treaty of Rome? Do you even know what the Treaty of Rome is?

Do you want to go back to the good old days when people with disabilities and learning disabilities and mental health problems were largely institutionalised?

We have a long way to go, a hell of a long way before we finally get to a fair, equitable, and socially just society, but step by step we are getting there, governments make wrong decisions on the way, and have different outlooks on the best way to get their (the traditional labour view of planned interventions against the traditional conservative view of laissez faire.

But... popularist finger wagging is no evidence of the BNPs ability or even willingness to act in the interest of ALL British people, irrespective of race and ethnic origin.

You refer to history, there is no evidence from the history of BNP and its spin-offs that it is not a neo-nazi collective of racist bigots, no matter how much you rant.

Anyway, I have a life to live, and I've wasted enough of my bank holiday weekend on you lot already.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 23 May 09 - 03:22 PM

From: jeddy - PM
Date: 23 May 09 - 12:29 PM

o thought this was suppossed to be a discussion not an all out war.oh shit, i am not equipped properly. as for your' jack russels they wouldn't get too far against steel toe caps!

Now THIS is a threat, and the true colours of the BNP shining through.
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Mind you, the left can be equally as bad as the right, with the old propaganda.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 23 May 09 - 03:56 PM

to rifleman,
god you know how to make me laugh!!!!

if you had been reading this tread then you would know that i HATE the bnp,however it really does make me question your' ability to argue with reason when you resort to threats from your' dogs.

"i'm not properly equipped for war"


was supposed to be a dig at the present government, for our brave soldiers. which you would have seen if you would get your' head out of your' arse and read things properly.


as for the threat i was making, if any of your' ankle biters tried to have my feet then i would doubt that they could get through steel toe caps and yes i would kick them. do you honestly think anyone would just stand there and let them?




still chuckling.....you should be a comedian!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 03:57 PM

Doers anyone notice that the British Nazi Party people have no names?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:07 PM

Why is the British Nazi Party aligned with hate groups around the world? KKK, Aryan Nations, Canadian Heritage Party? I've no doubt they have--in fact I KNOW they have--Stormfront members.

Would one of you British Nazi Party guests--hell, you're all guests because you do NOT have the courage of your convictions--not when you'd have to stand alone, anyway. There's a word for that: gutless. But, that's to be expected of people who fashion themselves after people like Hitler, Eichmann, et.al.

What's your timeline for the death camps? Any idea?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:22 PM

I understand the meaning of Nazism, Jack.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:24 PM

So, back to the topic. Why does the BNP align itself with so many hate groups?

Would the friendless SoN answer that?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:26 PM

the only two names of "guests I've mentioned are

GUEST,Scopes and Burning Bridges

"o thought this was suppossed to be a discussion not an all out war.oh shit, i am not equipped properly. as for your' jack russel(l)s they wouldn't get too far against steel toe caps!

No mention of "our brave soldiers" here

AND I,ve had a look at your postings on other threads, your mind changes with every single post you make. You really don't have a clue, do you sunshine?
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"The British National Party would probably make it into a parliament elected by proportional representation, too. It would shine a torch into the dirty little corner where the BNP defecate on our democracy, and that would be much more powerful than duffing them up in the street — which I'm also in favour of."

- Billy Bragg in an interview with The Guardian, 2004


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:26 PM

Dear Nottingham.

Think back to what the Sheriff of Nottingham represented. Then think again if that is who you want to be. I am aware of the argument that John Lackland was a gifted administrator but he was a despot and oppressor too - and in the end defeated.

It seems to me that you have no understanding of the difference between right and wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:27 PM

My last two posts were in response to a British Nazi Party guy. It was deleted by a clone.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:32 PM

"Why is the British Nazi Party aligned with hate groups around the world? KKK, Aryan Nations, Canadian Heritage Party? I've no doubt they have--in fact I KNOW they have--Stormfront members.

Would one of you British Nazi Party guests--hell, you're all guests because you do NOT have the courage of your convictions--not when you'd have to stand alone, anyway. There's a word for that: gutless. But, that's to be expected of people who fashion themselves after people like Hitler, Eichmann, et.al.

What's your timeline for the death camps? Any idea?"




I was kinda hoping a BNP person would answer this.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 04:42 PM

There are situations that test friendships, and there are those that stretch them beyond breaking point, and if in a friendship that point is passed then they individual has to weigh up the loss of a friend against loss of personal principles. The breaking point varies from friendship to friendship and relationship to relationship (historical example the English and American civil wars where it was know for brother to fight brother). That point could be something as trivial as supporting the wrong football team.

At the other extreme would you expect any friends that Ian Huntly once had to stand by them? Many people find the BNP and what it stands for so odious, that it is the action of standing for the BNP that breaks the friendship. If one person breaks off a relationship because the other had an affair, it is the affair that breaks the relationship.

With regards to gumption, who had more, the victims and survivors of Nazi persecution or the SS/Gestapo.?

Anyway I was going to leave this thread to other folkies at least for tonight.....


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 23 May 09 - 05:05 PM

to rifleman my mind does NOT change with every posting, i stand by every single one of them! i threw in the comment of the army becuase ins't what we are talking about( the bnp and bully boys)isn't that what are armed services supposed to be fighting, people who hate the freedom of speech? yeah i know we wre lied to and the reason they gave for going in doesn't stand up, but if it weren't for a minority there would have been peace in iraq years ago.


as for agreeing that our country is in a mess, if you think it isn't then you must live somewhere totally different to me. i was only agreeing with the statements NOT the way to fix it, that i admit idon't have a clue as to the way forward on a national scale is obvious on other threads.
i do want my vote to count and don't want to end up regreting who i put my trust and faith in. is that so bad?   if others thought about where their vote is going so much then NO-ONE would vote bnp would they?

so maybe you should look at your' own reasons for posting on this thread.


even if my mind wasn't totally made up that's the whole piont of us discussing something not just to say i belive this and i know that i'm right.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 05:06 PM

There's a programme of Channel 4 right now called Hitler: The Rise of Evil


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 23 May 09 - 05:14 PM

just recording it now, thanks


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 May 09 - 05:38 PM

Is it just me or has http://www.bnp.org.uk/ (BNP homepage) moved, been taken down, something?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 May 09 - 06:05 PM

I get this when I try:

"Timeout on server
Connection was to www.bnp.org.uk at port 80"

Probably a server down.

BTW, this British supporting party appears to me to be using American hosting services.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 May 09 - 06:40 PM

I'll admit to a mistake above. I'd missed it was .org.uk, not .org.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 May 09 - 07:16 PM

I got that too, Jon, and I also got a 404, can't be found


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 May 09 - 07:38 PM

Outlining his party's anti-immigration stance, Mr Griffin said: "Not all immigrants are terrorists but all terrorists are immigrants or their immediate descendants."

err.... Where did David Copeland immigrate from?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 23 May 09 - 07:48 PM

Or Guy Fawkes ...


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 23 May 09 - 07:55 PM

I welcome more posts from BNP members.

Why?

Because as I read back through this thread again, it is increasingly obvious how poorly informed they are and how weak their arguments are.

By contributing to this thread and attempting to pit their wits against the mudcat regulars they are merely drawing attention to their inadequacies.

And the more deeply held their conviction that that is not so, the more foolish they look.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 23 May 09 - 09:27 PM

to rifleman I APOLOGIZE the way i read your' post earlier sounded like you were for the bnp. i am the one who hasn't read things the way they were meant. my only defence is that this thread gets me really REALLY MAD!! and in my haste to defend peoples rights for free speech i read into your' post a threat that wasn't actually there.

i think i have done enough groveling now and still think that the bnp SUCK.


getting back to the point, trying everything you can to stop people making what you think is a great mistake is the sign of true friendship

when and if they decide it is not for them and they HAVE made a mistake it might be too late for the friendship to get back to where it was.
i hope in this case that will not happen
sorry again for my presumptions and not reading properly.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: artbrooks
Date: 24 May 09 - 12:38 AM

LOX, you are assuming, I think in error, that more than one BNP person is posting. It would be interesting, as I said a while ago, if one of the mods would see if all of these posts come from the same person...but wouldn't that violate the "one GUEST, one name" rule?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 24 May 09 - 12:43 AM

Two anyway, Art.

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"Why is the British Nazi Party aligned with hate groups around the world? KKK, Aryan Nations, Canadian Heritage Party? I've no doubt they have--in fact I KNOW they have--Stormfront members.

Would one of you British Nazi Party guests--hell, you're all guests because you do NOT have the courage of your convictions--not when you'd have to stand alone, anyway. There's a word for that: gutless. But, that's to be expected of people who fashion themselves after people like Hitler, Eichmann, et.al.

What's your timeline for the death camps? Any idea?"




I was kinda hoping a BNP person would answer this. '


I'm still hoping. However, I guess the little BNP darlings are abed now--or out beating up immigrant people. Likely old ladies and old men.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: The Barden of England
Date: 24 May 09 - 03:26 AM

Back to the point at hand Cllr. I'm with you all the way. Hopefully, being a friend, you have told her your views and that you feel you can no longer carry on with the friendship. That may help more than you know. It's such a hard thing to face though, and a very tough call so I'll just wish you the best of luck.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 24 May 09 - 10:40 AM

Oklahoma, USA - were McVeigh and Nichols immigrants?
Any more lies you want to tell Griffin?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Rory
Date: 24 May 09 - 04:31 PM

at the end of the day, Britain consits of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales primarily so why is it that these countries are filled with foreigners? what right do they have to be here? do you see us the british immigrating to their country? NO!

i say vote BNP and lets have the lot out they shouldn't be here so why are they?

BNP! BNP! BNP!


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 24 May 09 - 05:10 PM

Hmm, true colours showing there.
Nick Griffin has been filmed at a meeting with the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke explaining how he would seek to woo the public by using warm words - freedom, security, identity, democracy.
"Perhaps one day, once by being rather more subtle we've got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, the British people might change their mind and say, 'Yes, every last one must go.' But if you offer that as your sole aim to start with, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere. So, instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity."
Looks like you've jumped the gun Rory.
Still, the likelihood is, as a BNP supporter, that you're either a fraudster, a sexual deviant, a drug pusher or a thug, and certainly of limited intelligence, we we can't expect you to heed your master's call.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 24 May 09 - 05:23 PM

do you see us the british immigrating to their country? NO!
There are around 700,000 British expats living in Spain, and most of those can't even be arsed to learn the language. I say round them up and put zem in de camps!


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 24 May 09 - 05:34 PM

On the grounds of what we did at the time of the British Empire - forcing ourselves on other countries, stealing large tracts of land exploiting their workforces, and getting rich at ether countries expense.

By the fact that we needed a workforce to carry out work which we were not prepared to dirty our hands to do.

thats just for starters


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 May 09 - 05:47 PM

""Outlining his party's anti-immigration stance, Mr Griffin said: "Not all immigrants are terrorists but all terrorists are immigrants or their immediate descendants."

err.... Where did David Copeland immigrate from?""


Or NICK GRIFFIN, who fits the definition of a terrorist as well as almost any other.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 24 May 09 - 06:13 PM

Thank you rory.

Your comments have served yet again to illustrate to any outsider reading this thread that the BNP are mindless thugs.

Indeed, well done to everyone on this thread for making this fact abundantly clear.

Tell me - what kind of safeguards would the BNP put in place to prevent further collapse in the sub-prime market?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Hawker
Date: 24 May 09 - 07:19 PM

What would I do? Hmmmmm
Well, first off Mike, I wouldn't ask a bunch of folkies on a forum such as this as it would only start a fight and a lot of mudslinging :0)
But I sympathise with your predicament, and understand your reasons. I send you my love and friendship for your honesty and feel your sadness at having to make this decision. I dont know what I would do, probably not the same as you, but then I am not you and that does make a difference too.
I survived 2 days at Chippenham without being targeted by any BNP member. I was handed a UKIP leaflet and thanked them and handed it back saying that I didnt live there and that therefore there was no point in trying to win my vote. They thanked me and I moved on.
Politics will always raise temperatures.
My political views are my own, and I have no desire to force them on anybody else. Mike, If you feel that was the right decision for you, then go with it, and good luck!
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 May 09 - 07:19 PM

"...all terrorists are immigrants or their immediate descendants" - but by that definition of GUEST Rory "Britain consits of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales", every bombing carried out over the years by the IRA was carried out by native-born Britishers.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 25 May 09 - 09:58 AM

Here's a conundrum which has puzzled me ever since I ran up against the National Front's repatriation policy 30 odd years ago. Forgetting the logistics, the collapse of the NHS, the deletrious effects on the economy etc., it would not be too difficult for a constitutionally elected far right government to frame a piece of legislation stopping all immigration - at any rate, immigration by all the ethnic groups which the far right objects to.

Equally, the repatriation of all immigrants would not be too difficult to engineer. There would of course be massive demonstrations and protests, but these could easily be put down by a few tanks and troops with tear gas, baton rounds etc. Equally, there would be massive protests from abroad, and Britain would be reduced to the status of a pariah (pirranah?) nation. But that would hardly bother the BNP. They would be quite happy in their whiter than white isolation, with only their fellow European fascists and the Ku Klux Klan, and the white South African millionaires they've been courting lately for company.

Of course, there might be economic chaos, as Britain suddenly finds its workforce depleted, and the rest of the world imposes sanctions to stop us trading abroad. Still, there's always those tanks and tear gas canisters and baton rounds to quell the starving populace. And if rubber bullets didn't work, I couldn't imagine the Nick Griffins of this world shedding too many tears over using real ones.

The nub of the problem from the BNP's point of view is that a very large proportion of the "immigrant" population was born here and has the same rights of nativity and nationhood as the rest of us. In other words no British government of any stripe or persuasion would be able to deport these people, and no foreign government has any obligation, legal or moral, to find homes for them.

In other words,whatever the BNP might say about "constitutionally" returning Britain to a totally white society, it cannot be made to happpen. Too many of the people they plan to throw out cannot leave because they've got no other country to go to.

Now, either the BNP realises this, or they're an even bigger bunch of fruitcakes than I take them for.

How then do they plan to deal with the native born "immigrant" population? Either I've missed something or the only solution which would be open to them would be to adopt the one chosen by their mentor; the little Austrian corporal.

That's right, the BNP cannot achieve its stated goal of a 99% Aryan British population without planting huge numbers of people in concentration camps. Well, let's face it, they're going to need them for all the people who will rise up in objection to the hounding of innocent citizens. For that matter, they'll need them for all the trade unionists, left wingers, liberals, gays, gypsies, travellers, and anyone else who dares to foul the air of their Aryan paradise.

A constitutionally elected fascist far right goverment is an impossibilty, and the BNP knows it. Their facade of constitutional respectability is just that, a facade, and it's creaking pretty badly as things stand. If the next few years brings the sort of circumstances which allows them to grow into a major political force, you will see the BNP shed that facade and reveal themselves as the totalitarian thugs and barbarians we already know them for, just as a surely as a snake sloughs its skin.

Don't let it happen. Kill the snake off now.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 25 May 09 - 11:44 AM

Moderates who protested against a previous, Muslim led, anti- war demonstration in Luton, Bedfordshire, back in March- by attacking an Asian man and wrecking an Asian owned shop. The true face of British racism, that our "ex Labour" friends like to keep hidden from the voting public.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 25 May 09 - 12:23 PM

I repeat, allow people to make up their own minds. The ballot box will do the talking in a few weeks time.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 25 May 09 - 12:45 PM

No one has told anybody who to vote for except for anonymous guests. All the rest of us are doing is providing background information that we think non racists should consider before they cast their vote. the fact that the Nazi won in July 1932 did not make them any less evil and insidious.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:05 PM

I agree with Daily Mail Reader.

We should allow people to make up their own minds.

Ands we should allow people to discuss the issue on this thread.

And we should allow People to read this thread and decide wwhich argument is more compelling if they so choose.


That is what you mean isn't it DMR?

You aren't suggesting we should put and end to the thread in case it makes people vote against you are you?

No of course not - because we should allow people to make up their own minds.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:07 PM

"There would of course be massive demonstrations and protests, but these could easily be put down by a few tanks and troops with tear gas, baton rounds etc"

Assuming the army or police agree to serve a government that would act in this way towards its own people.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:09 PM

And if you haven't twigged yet, on the basis of postings to this thread there members of this forum are unanimous in their decision of who they are NOT going to vote for. Can you guess which one? I'll give you a clue.... its initials are BNP. Maybe you can conjure more support from skinheads and paedophiles. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find out where they hang out.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:16 PM

And if you want to know more about 'folk' people... find out what Woody Guthrie had written on his guitar....


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:16 PM

Logged in now. (those posts "From: GUEST,lox - PM
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:05 PM" and "From: GUEST,lox - PM
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:07 PM" were indeed me)


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 25 May 09 - 01:39 PM

Thanks for that. Now would one of you please answer the question I put to you earlier, Do you think the BNP will gain or lose seats next month. Simple enough question.

Best of British to you all.


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