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BS: BNP: What would you do?

GUEST,Daily Mail reader 29 May 09 - 12:57 PM
Fred McCormick 29 May 09 - 02:17 PM
Rifleman (inactive) 29 May 09 - 03:09 PM
Backwoodsman 29 May 09 - 03:58 PM
Riginslinger 29 May 09 - 04:21 PM
Rifleman (inactive) 29 May 09 - 04:24 PM
Ebbie 29 May 09 - 04:28 PM
SPB-Cooperator 29 May 09 - 04:43 PM
Riginslinger 29 May 09 - 05:02 PM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 29 May 09 - 05:44 PM
Gervase 29 May 09 - 06:23 PM
Peace 29 May 09 - 06:34 PM
GUEST,lox 29 May 09 - 06:40 PM
GUEST,tuborg 29 May 09 - 07:54 PM
jeddy 29 May 09 - 08:30 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 29 May 09 - 08:38 PM
Riginslinger 29 May 09 - 09:18 PM
GUEST,ifor 30 May 09 - 02:43 AM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 04:37 AM
Gervase 30 May 09 - 04:58 AM
Gervase 30 May 09 - 05:03 AM
TheSnail 30 May 09 - 05:42 AM
jeddy 30 May 09 - 06:26 AM
Fred McCormick 30 May 09 - 06:39 AM
GUEST,Jane Sharon Carpenter 30 May 09 - 06:41 AM
GUEST,Jon 30 May 09 - 06:53 AM
Fred McCormick 30 May 09 - 07:04 AM
Emma B 30 May 09 - 07:05 AM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 07:06 AM
GUEST,Jon 30 May 09 - 07:14 AM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 09:05 AM
Gervase 30 May 09 - 09:12 AM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 09:15 AM
SPB-Cooperator 30 May 09 - 10:03 AM
Lox 30 May 09 - 10:06 AM
SPB-Cooperator 30 May 09 - 10:30 AM
Gervase 30 May 09 - 10:47 AM
Rifleman (inactive) 30 May 09 - 11:07 AM
goatfell 30 May 09 - 11:07 AM
Emma B 30 May 09 - 11:09 AM
Rifleman (inactive) 30 May 09 - 11:24 AM
Lox 30 May 09 - 12:29 PM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 12:55 PM
meself 30 May 09 - 12:58 PM
Riginslinger 30 May 09 - 01:01 PM
SPB-Cooperator 30 May 09 - 01:04 PM
Emma B 30 May 09 - 01:05 PM
GUEST,Daily Mail reader 30 May 09 - 01:09 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 29 May 09 - 12:57 PM

I repeat, allow everyone the freedom to vote for the party of their choice.

I find it fascinating how the other parties are nicking bits of BNP policy, making out as if they're doing something original, and then attacking the only party who had the guts to talk about issues long before they ever did?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 29 May 09 - 02:17 PM

"I repeat, allow everyone the freedom to vote for the party of their choice."

I totally agree. Given the system of proportional representation in the EU parliament, the only way to stop this miniscule bunch of fruitcakes and hate merchants is by large numbers of people turning out and voting for whichever party they prefer; whether that preference be Labour, Tory, Lib-Dem, Green, No2EU Yes to Democracy or whatever.

USE YOUR VOTE ON JUNE 4TH. DON'T LET THE BNP IN THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 29 May 09 - 03:09 PM

"The British National Party would probably make it into a parliament elected by proportional representation, too. It would shine a torch into the dirty little corner where the BNP defecate on our democracy, and that would be much more powerful than duffing them up in the street — which I'm also in favour of."

- Billy Bragg


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 May 09 - 03:58 PM

"Clearly they are unable to defeat anyone in a democratic debate"

Well, DMR, no one will get the chance to defeat you, because you daren't even join any sort of debate here.

A typical cowardly Nazi - just like your hero Hitler, all gob and no fuckin' balls.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 May 09 - 04:21 PM

In view of the reality that the most major threat to the survival of the planet is runaway human migration, maybe the BNP is just what the world needs.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 29 May 09 - 04:24 PM

me thinks this Riginslinger is a pot stirrer...feeling a wee bit nervous are you Riginslinger...we're everywhere.we're everywhere...*LOL*


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 May 09 - 04:28 PM

"In view of the reality that the most major threat to the survival of the planet is runaway human migration, maybe the BNP is just what the world needs." Rig

Rig, surely you mean 'population', not 'migration'?   Even if you were able to keep all immigration out of the US and other developed countries, that would not cure the planet's ills.

I simply fail to see why a human being born in one part of the world has less right to survive than a human being born in another part.

By the way, I think your remark is deplorable.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 29 May 09 - 04:43 PM

I repeat,

Let people make their own reasoned choices when they vote, fully aware of the kind of 'people' they would be voting for if they vote BNP. I woundn't waste my breath trying to convonce the skinheads and racist thugs who support BNP to vote otherwise.

However, those with a modicum of intellegence I am doing everything in my power, along with all the other good people in this thread to make sure the truth of what BNP are about, not on the basis of their propaganda but o the basis of what they do and say when they think they are not under scrutiny and where they emerged from.

And by the way, don't even talk about facism until you learn what it wa s like for ordinary people to live under facist dictators like Franco, Pinochet, Salozar.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 May 09 - 05:02 PM

"Rig, surely you mean 'population', not 'migration'? ...your remark is deplorable"

               Yes, in reality I do mean population growth is the larger problem. But places on the planet where population growth has been largely contained are being overrun by people from places where population growth has not been addressed in any manner.
                For the most part, it seems to me, this is a result of some unforgiving religion, but the result is the same.   The only immediate solution I can see is to make those folks stay home and deal with the problem. Once they bring things under control, normal migration could begin again.
                Further, it seems to me, you have to make a deplorable statement from time to time to get other people's attention.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 29 May 09 - 05:44 PM

The one thing we all have in common is we believe in the democratic process. I feel I have put my case across fairly and not called anyone names, or used swear words or posted lies.


Some just simply would not accept they lost the debate, their series of cut and paste articles against the BNP simply didn't hold water. You may note I did not respond to the barrage of easily-disproved lies against the British National Party. This is something which is almost unparalleled in any political debate ever held here.

The stories and lies some posted became too fantastic for any sane person to believe, the attempt to influence people with a barrage of lies is of concern to anyone who holds the democratic process dear such as I.

I don't attack your political views, a few of you launched a co-ordinated smear campaign against the BNP in an attempt to undermine the growing public support for this party.

As I am a reasonable person, I will not say anything nasty against any of you, even those who masquerade as voters in the coming elections.

Good night and the Best of British to you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 29 May 09 - 06:23 PM

the barrage of easily-disproved lies
Well, DMR, disprove them, then.
Come on, or are you completely lacking in moral fibre?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 29 May 09 - 06:34 PM

"Best of British"

That would be my Grampy and he would never have voted for the BNP or any party like it. FYI and just to put that remark in perspective.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 29 May 09 - 06:40 PM

"I have put my case across fairly"

What case?


Would you mind telling us where we can find this case?



Or perhaps cut and paste it?



There is no evidence of any pro BNP case on this thead.



Just a slightly weird repetetive BNP zombie breathing heavily down the phone.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,tuborg
Date: 29 May 09 - 07:54 PM

One country that did recover well from the last great depression was Germany as a matter of fact, actual economic fact, they fared better then any other country as the history books show.
Unlike Obama and Brown they used their own resources to rebuild the economy, thus recirculating the monies injected into said economy.
the US UK model for recession beating has the obvious flaws that it will suck in more imported goods, fuel another house price bubble and be bled dry by another surge in oil prices.
Many economists fear this as there is no more borrowing to be had after the current round. We would be left with the only option of pawning our own remaining natural resources.
China on the other hand has steadily been buying bonds and other countries national resources and will be well placed to emerge as the new world power.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 29 May 09 - 08:30 PM

question. why do we import and export so much of our resources?

would it be that bad if we kept local food for local people? i'm not saying that we stop importing stuff just cut down abit surely there is a better way!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 29 May 09 - 08:38 PM

""Anyone would think the little Goebbels wannabe had something to hide.""

Yep!......He has.

The fact that his single brain cell can't handle questions AND answers.

And the three days a week when it's at the BNP laundry being washed, it can't handle either.

The pity of it is, NOTHING seems to stop the gob from producing inane drivel.

He,s truly entitled to FREE speech, as what he says has zero value.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 May 09 - 09:18 PM

Maybe zero value, but it has a growing appeal to larger numbers of people because nobody will do anything about runaway population growth and migration.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,ifor
Date: 30 May 09 - 02:43 AM

The BNP is a vile bunch of racists,thugs and fascists.
It has only ever had two leaders.
Its founding leader was John Tyndall an open nazi who liked to parader around in full nazi uniform.He can be seen on "google images" in his nazi regalia under a portrait of his hero Adolph Hitler and in front of a huge swastika.He had six serious criminal convictions for violence and race hate crimes.
His successor, Nick Griffin, is an ex public schoolboy who has been involved in far right and racist politics for decades. He was a member of the thuggish National Front and has a 1998 conviction again for a race hate crime.He is a denier of the murder of 6 million in the war which he called the "holohoax".
But the BNP is stuffed with violent criminals at all levels...from the convicted bomb maker and violent thug Tony Lecomber [a senior aide to Griffin ] to the Swansea BNP member Robert McGlynn who was convicted three years ago of shouting racist obscenities and giving the Hitler salute to a passerby.
The BNP is the party of Law n order?I don't think so!
ifor


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 04:37 AM

Why so much anger,is it because we enter the last week of polling ?
We had a debate and some of you did not seem to accept defeat. The debate was pretty feisty,attacking the only party that has the best intentions of the British people at heart. In my opinion, the clear winner of the debate was the BNP. I feel my case was solid and strong on domestic issues.

One or two of you depended on supporters in the crowd, that says it all. There were a few times though, when you allowed your anger to get out of control. I think I understood your message,but the messenger needs to find a better delivery. Ranting never helps in a debate, I know there are those who praised the restraint shown by me. I think members will note the very subtle moments when I was able to take a certain member down a notch or two.


But believe me when I say, the British people won this debate, not just me.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 30 May 09 - 04:58 AM

Whoa! And once again the pocket propagandist neatly sidesteps the questions put.
Even if DMR was promoting the Women's Institute, I think anyone would be entitled to be miffed if s/he so wilfully refused to answer questions.
So, come on DMR, prove to use that these accusations of racism, violence and criminality are 'lies'.
A fiver says you can't.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 30 May 09 - 05:03 AM

And, having just re-read your latest post DMR, I really think you need to seek some sort of help.
One rarely encounters something so delusional outside a psychiatric ward or a Berlin bunker.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: TheSnail
Date: 30 May 09 - 05:42 AM

BNP Exposed - The Secret Agent (BBC) Part 1


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 30 May 09 - 06:26 AM

now there is a very brave man, i hope he didn't get any comeback for this. so how can you argue with that dmr? the words of your'leader himself. are you going to try to justify it or are you well aware that you cannot? please please please give some response and not just spout your' usual, sidestepping crap


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 30 May 09 - 06:39 AM

"BNP Exposed - The Secret Agent (BBC) Part 1"

Marvellous ennit. You've got one member of the BNP - a leading member as it happens, who also claims to be a biologist - arguing that black people are intellectually inferior and unpossessed of the moral dignity which characterises the advanced white races. And you've got another member who goes round shoving shit through people's letterboxes.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Jane Sharon Carpenter
Date: 30 May 09 - 06:41 AM

I don't think you can be a very good friend if you get rid of friends or chose friends on the basis of their political views.
You have obviously been far too sucked in by all the media hype about the BNP. These days they are just another mainstream political party not that far off what the Conservatives were like a few decades back.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 30 May 09 - 06:53 AM

DMR, can you explain Nick Griffin addressing American nationalists including a former KKK leader and saying this?

“There's a difference between selling out your ideas and selling your ideas and the British National Party isn't about selling out its ideas (which are your ideas too) but we are determined now to sell. What that means basically, to use the saleable words. As I say, “freedom, security, identity, democracy”. Nobody can criticise them. Nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.

Perhaps one day. Once by being rather more subtle, we have got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media. Then perhaps one day, the British people might change their mind and say “Yes, every last one must go”.

Perhaps they will one day. But if you hold that out as your sole aim to start with, your going to get absolutely nowhere,. So instead of talking about “racial purity, we talk about identity”.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 30 May 09 - 07:04 AM

What was that George Orwell said about Newspeak?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 30 May 09 - 07:05 AM

No doubt this is the same Jane sharon Carpenter who also writes on Facebook sites opposed to the racism of the BNP on the topic Christians against the BNP such bon mots as

'Yes, I have heard the story of the good samaritan. He helped one foreigner - not millions of them.'

and
'It preserves our Christian heritage. They can preserve their muslim heritage in their own country, It will also protect us from events such as 7/7.'

on the topic Christians against the BNP

when you understand the basic tenets of Christianity Jane come back and lecture us about friendship


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 07:06 AM

Sadly I see one or two of you are away on one again ! There is a general fear that the truth being told by the BNP will destroy years of indoctrination by New Labour. I listened to a speech by Nick last year with my grandchildren.It was one of the proudest moments for me and showed the kids just what Nick and the other chaps have done for this country.

Cameron is a Blair McBroon clone, plain and simple. They are formula politicians moulded to whatever shape the NWO deems fit for their purpose. Watching these marionettes posturing at PM's questions when they both share the same common goals is one of the most pathetic sights on TV, even their insults are half hearted.

Please keep to the point.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 30 May 09 - 07:14 AM

I am. Can you explain those comments?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 09:05 AM

I already did Jon.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 30 May 09 - 09:12 AM

Could you answer the questions then, DMR?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 09:15 AM

Gervase, I have several times.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 May 09 - 10:03 AM

Simple quesrion.

Is a party whose leader or convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred wothy of support?

Just answer yes or no


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 30 May 09 - 10:06 AM

DMR,

Could you show us where you:

1, answered the questions put to you by Peace

2, answered the questtions put by Don

3, answered the questions put by Jon

4, answered the questions put by me.

5, won the argument


You could either provide links to the posts in question or you could cut and paste from them.

Alternatively you could simply quote them and provide the thread name and the date and time of the posts so we could go and find them ourselves.


Secondly, could you provide links to your sources so I can see where you get your information.


We would love to be able to listen to your arguments with a truly open mind and to learn how and wheere we have gone wrong.

However, this is not possible without the necessary evidence upon which you base your view.


The problem is, that as long as your opponents are providing evidence and you aren't it makes it look like they know what they are talking about and it makes it look like you're just making up a lot of fiction.


I trust that you will be able to provide us with these links so that we can move forward with the discussion.

By the way, so that you are able to really put up a successful fight, I would suggest that you use the BNP website as little as possible, since noone is going to accept that as an independant source.

Good Luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 May 09 - 10:30 AM

2nd Question easy one.

If you put rat poison pellets in an all-bran box are they
(A) All bran cereal
(B) Rat poison pellets

Just answer A or B


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 30 May 09 - 10:47 AM

OK - 14 simple questions. You can use both sides of the paper. If you can provide a convincing answer to any of them I'll be surprised.

1: Disprove the 'lies' stated in this thread about the BNP. Maybe the trickiest one, so you might like to skip this and go on to...
2: Explain Nick Griffin's comments to the KKK meeting.
3: Do you endorse physical and verbal attacks on black and asian people?
4: Do you think that someone convicted of incitement to racial hatred is a fit person to lead a political party?
5: Did the Holocaust happen?
6: Do you agree with these statements from the BNP message board; Somebody should start major-league deporting them before some vigilante groups, somewhere, start major-league killing them in the streets...And, if I see one being honour-killed, somewhere, I'll develop deafness, blindness and complete social unawareness - it's amazing how suddenly we can be afflicted with such things, given how stressful modern life can be!? Are they acceptable?
7: Do you deny that one of the BNP's policies is to 're-patriate immigrants' (particularly non-whites) back to their country of origin?
8: What is your evidence for unprovoked violence against the BNP?
9: Is the BNP facing an inquiry into its funding after Nick Griffin paid a £5,000 political donation into his personal bank account without declaring it?
10: Was John Tyndall, the BNP's founder, a Nazi? Are the photographs of him, in a Nazi uniform with a swastika flag, genuine?
11: Why is the BNP aligned with hate groups throughout the world?
12: How many generations should one have to go back to prove 'pure British' stock?
13: Did two senior BNP activists try to smuggle under-age schoolgirls into the party's conference hotel, only to have the poor girls run screaming from their rooms?
14: Do you agree that 12 out of the BNP's 20 elected councillors have appalling records for criminality, non-attendance, dishonesty and incompetence (see here ).


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 30 May 09 - 11:07 AM

"   Yes, in reality I do mean population growth is the larger problem. But places on the planet where population growth has been largely contained are being overrun by people from places where population growth has not been addressed in any manner.
                For the most part, it seems to me, this is a result of some unforgiving religion, but the result is the same.   The only immediate solution I can see is to make those folks stay home and deal with the problem. Once they bring things under control, normal migration could begin again.
                Further, it seems to me, you have to make a deplorable statement from time to time to get other people's attention."

Babblespeak in all its glory, wuth just the right amout of ignorance = BNP


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: goatfell
Date: 30 May 09 - 11:07 AM

purple, green, red, orange these colours are all non-white, this is what I mean by PC they can't be honest and say that person is black or brown or white, I don't care, but I do when you mention non-white, pink with yellow pokeadots, that's non white.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 30 May 09 - 11:09 AM

In an attempt to emulate groups such as the French National Front, with which the BNP has close links, Griffin has devoted himself to making the BNP electable by publicly toning down the BNP's hardline Nazism.

This moderation is only skin deep.

Replying to criticism from other parts of the far right, Griffin has told a private meeting of American nazis and racists that while the BNP needed to change to get elected, his core beliefs - that of the superiority of the white race - remained his driving force.

In a recording that was broadcast on a BNP blog late on Tuesday night, and was later placed on the party's website, Mr Griffin said:

""As you know, we don't break the law. We never have, we never will .... Don't mind breaking the odd race law, or being accused of it, you know"

Mr Griffin was convicted in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred

Racism cuts both ways
A 12-page glossy pamphlet launched in October 2008 is being distributed as part of a campaign to purport to prove the existence of a "silent epidemic of racist targeting of indigenous Britons".

It is full of racist venom directed especially at Muslims, whom it accuses of being "sickos", "paedophiles" and teaming up "to lure girls - often as young as twelve or thirteen - into a nightmare world of sexual abuse, rape, beatings, drug addiction and prostitution".

"Welcome to Oldham, the front line of the race war," a BNP officer told a party rally a few weeks before rioting broke out in Oldham, Burnley and Bradford in summer 2001.
After the riots the cover of BNP's magazine Identity sported a map of Britain with flames indicating towns where BNP-instigated race riots had already taken place and those where the BNP was still working on it, asking the question 'Is this going to be a long hot summer?'


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 30 May 09 - 11:24 AM

actually there isn't any such thing as a white person, you're all somewhat pinkish....me? I have a darkish brown complexion, being that I am native North American (or an Indian as some folks like to call us*LOL*)

Oh and one small thing, goatfell, if colour doesn't matter to you, why did you, why do you bring the subject up in the first place?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 30 May 09 - 12:29 PM

Rifleman,

Understanding cuts both ways.

There are numerous legacies of racism in the modern age.

One of them is that innocent white folk feel, as a result of their good nature, a sense of responsibility for the misdeeds of not so innocent white people.

Of those innocent whites, there are those who find this an unacceptable burden.

This is justifiable.

Why indeed should a non racist person have to put up with the paranoia caused by racism.

It isn't fair.

I know that you are referring to earlier comments shared between you and Goatfell on the subject of his distaste for feeling like he has to step on eggshells when he hasn't done anything wrong.

What Goatfell doesn't get is that it isn't the PC crowd who made Race an issue. It was the Racists.

So it isn't fair that non-white people should fear a political organization that targets non-whites.

It isn't fair that a person who falls into that category should be asked to explain exactly how - the simple fact that they do is reason enough to protest such an outrageous policy.

And it isn't fair that Innocent white folk like Goatfell feel they have to be paranoid about what they say.

The truth is Goatfell that every Black, Brown and Yellow friend I have actually shares your view, and I know from a million positive experiences that you can distinguish between fred and John by saying "john is black but fred is white" its no big deal and sensible.

The thing that black/white/asian people all don't like (and that includes me goatfell and rifleman) is when someone discriminates on the basis of our colour and not on the basis of our character, personality, qualifications, personal history, sense of humour, talent, commitment etc.

I discriminatee on the grounds of character integrity etc, which is why I find the BNP so utterly repellant.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 12:55 PM

Every time I submit a detailed response to your questions, someone deletes it ! So direct your questions to them, not me.

I listened to a very moving interview on the radio this afternoon. Yet another World War II veteran, 82-year-old Joe Randall, has come out to bat for the British National Party in the wake of the childish anti-BNP smears launched by the Tory leader and the media in recent days. He spoke with such love for our country and respect for the party.

Mr Randall, who is now playing an active part in campaigning for the BNP in the South West, always wears his campaign medals, won while serving in the paratroops during the war, passers-by to see.

Mr Randall joins numerous other World War II veterans who have come out in support of the BNP over the past few weeks. So far the party has at least three Royal Air Force WWII veterans, including at least one Spitfire Battle of Britain pilot, several Royal Navy veterans (including some who took part in the Dunkirk, Tirpitz and Atlantic Convoy campaigns) and a good sprinkling of D-Day veterans.

These heroes put their lives on the line to fight for Britain all those years ago, and it takes a special kind of person to come out and fight for Britain once again.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: meself
Date: 30 May 09 - 12:58 PM

However: every time Rifleman has mentioned that he is "non-white", Goatfell has reacted with indignation, and insisted for some reason that Rifleman be more specific. Finally, Rifleman has (good-naturedly) given in and allowed that he is darkish brown. I thought that would put an end to the matter, but ...

Lox, maybe I need to spend more time on it - but for the first time, one of your posts makes no sense to me. Just don't know what the heck you're trying to say. Probably doesn't matter, though; if I did know, I'd probably be in agreement ...


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:01 PM

"Babblespeak in all its glory, wuth (sic) just the right amout of ignorance = BNP"


                      I would agree, ignorance is the problem!


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:04 PM

Answer the questions....


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:05 PM

A Holocaust survivor and Second World War veteran last night begged Britain: "Don't give power to the Nazis."

Gisela Feldman, 84, and Ken Reilly, 83, joined the Daily Mirror Hope Not Hate bus in Manchester to ask people to vote against the BNP in next week's European elections.

Gisela was 15 when she fled Germany in 1938 as the Nazis killed her father.

She said: "We cannot allow the fascist BNP into our politics no matter what they promise. "I lived through the Nazi regime and remember the Brown Shirts marching through Berlin.

We didn't know of the hatred flourishing beneath."

Ken fought in the Royal Armoured Corps during D-Day and the Battle of Arnhem.

He said: "We must look through the BNP's false brandishments. Hatred is an abomination and we must vote for hope not hate."

Comic Eddie Izzard, who joined us at the Imperial War Museum North, said: "Meeting Gisela and Ken reminds us of the sacrifices their generation made so we can live in a hate-free society. But now, 60 years on, we've got the BNP dragging us back in time.

"Voting against the BNP is to vote for hope against hate."


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:09 PM

May I suggest we close this thread. Some of you created a major thread drift. The poster asked a question and I replied to it. As for me, the debate is over, so please accept defeat and move on.


Best of British to you all.

Enjoy your weekend.


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:13 PM

Joe - DMR claims you are deleting his/her postings. Is he/she lying?


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Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 30 May 09 - 01:41 PM

May I suggest we close this thread
Oh dear - not only does this pusillanimous little twerp refuse to answer some straight questions but now he cuts and runs.
As I said, lack of moral fibre. It's exactly what you'd expect from the BNP.
Before you do run away with your grubby tail between your legs, DMR, how about an answer to at least one of those questions I posted?
C'mon - just one answer shouldn't tax you too much...


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