Subject: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Sep 11 - 09:57 AM There are lots of programs on television and radio, lots of articles and books coming out examining the path traveled since the attacks of Sept 11, 2001. NPR Morning Edition reported today that StoryCorps has collected a lot of stories of survivors, remembrances of their loved ones--and the recent outpourings became an event in themselves. The article I've linked to has several of the stories linked at the bottom, they have a 51-minute special "We Remember" (this link opens a player window and starts the program), and there are links to outside sites and museums. Each year, the oral history project StoryCorps has marked the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks with the voices of those directly affected by the events: wives and husbands, grandparents and friends of those who died that day. Read the rest of the story and find the links to participants on the web page linked above. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Sep 11 - 10:01 AM And for a musical component here, when I heard about the memorials being arranged after Sept. 11, 2001, I knew that the piece that would fit this somber time so acutely was Samuel Barber's Adagio For Strings, op. 11. That indeed was the case. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Sep 11 - 10:05 AM Lots of memorials with music. One more. Search results. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Sep 11 - 11:27 PM There is so much special programming going on now - surely someone will have something they want to share one of these days. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: BusyBee Paul Date: 09 Sep 11 - 12:36 AM I flew from the UK last Sunday to my sister's place in Utah. Tomorrow we fly to New York to join The Really Big Chorus, taking part in an In Memorium concert on 9/11, Sunday afternoon, at the Avery Fisher Hall, Lincoln Center. We'll be singing 2 pieces by Karl Jenkins - The Armed Man and the American premiere of For The Fallen. i think it will be a very emotional weekend. Deirdre |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Janie Date: 09 Sep 11 - 12:41 AM Maggie - thank you. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Janie Date: 09 Sep 11 - 12:49 AM For those few of us in the eastern half of North Carolina, Sunday, 9/11/2011 at 4:00, Duke Chapel. Free to the Public. Rodney Wynkoop will conduct the Duke Chapel Choir, the Duke Chorale, the Choral Society of Durham, and the Orchestra Pro Cantores in a performance of Mozart's Requiem. Hundreds of Mozart Requiem performances were given nationwide in the aftermath of 9/11, and this music has become symbolic of mourning and consolation. More here. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Sep 11 - 03:10 AM Australian eyewitness shares story & photos On September 11, 2001, Sydney woman Penny saw American Airlines Flight 11 hit the north tower of the World Trade Centre from her hotel window across the road. She shares her story and photos for the first time. (read on) see the 2nd photo - Penny says: "There is a dead man about the middle of (this shot of the courtyard below my hotel). He's wearing a pink shirt and white pants. I've often wondered if I could somehow track down his family, who would likely know what their husband/father was wearing and whether it would give them any comfort to know exactly what happened to him and that he didn't die alone because I watched and prayed and cried as he died." |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Sep 11 - 09:56 AM There have been radio stories on NPR. Two in particular caught my attention: Memories of Sept. 11's First Recorded Casualty Endure (Father Mychal Judge) and Slain Priest: 'Bury His Heart, But Not His Love' (again, Mychal Judge) Here is an excerpt from the first article:
italics mine. If you weren't crying yet in this story, that part tipped the scales. The photo they discuss. There are musical remembrances of Mychal Judge in these stories. Another article segment: Judge was also a celibate gay man in the priesthood, a fact he revealed only to a select few. Brendan Fay, a gay activist who co-produced The Saint of 9/11, a documentary about Mychal Judge, says the chaplain's struggles drew people to him. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Sep 11 - 10:02 AM Thank you for that link, Sandra. What a story, and her photos tell so much. The field full of ambulances, for example. When this happened they set aside space at Ellis Island and other sites, thinking they'd have to excavate the wounded across water to there as well as other places, but the wounded just didn't appear as they they thought. So many died, and so many were never recovered. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Amergin Date: 09 Sep 11 - 01:04 PM Saint of 9/11 is an awesome documentary about Mychal Judge.... |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: katlaughing Date: 09 Sep 11 - 01:48 PM I heard on NPR this morning that most schools are not teaching about this tragedy because it is considered too controversial. Thanks for all of the links. I shall never forget being here, on Mudcat, when it was happening, those of us at home, able to watch it live on tv, relaying to those at work what we were seeing. It was a long, heart-rending, incredible day. The first thread started at 9:06AM Sept. 11, 2001. Links to all of the others follow. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: katlaughing Date: 09 Sep 11 - 02:11 PM Did find the following article about a school which is using a new approach to teach about it: CLICK HERE. More about what schools are doing to teach about it to children who weren't even alive then and/or don't know much about it at all: Clickety. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Bettynh Date: 09 Sep 11 - 03:35 PM I would hope that kids all get to watch this . Linda Ellerbee is a master of her craft. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Sep 11 - 05:48 PM PBS has played several excellent programs about aspects of the world trade center, about people's feelings of faith at the time and after, about how the buildings were constructed, and the one that I thought was most fascinating (it was new to me, I'd seen some of the others before) is one about the memorial site and all of the things going on there. I haven't been following the construction of the new building at 1 World Trade, so catching up on that was also interesting. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: katlaughing Date: 09 Sep 11 - 05:59 PM Bettynh, thanks for the link. Yes, Ellerbee is excellent. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: saulgoldie Date: 10 Sep 11 - 10:09 AM Is anyone doing anything special, gathering, singing songs, whatever? There is a big Unity Walk in DC. Anyone? http://911unitywalk.org/walk-experience/2011-program/ Saul |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: GUEST,999 Date: 10 Sep 11 - 12:11 PM I often spend that day (I will this year) contemplating and wondering about the value of what this world has become. I have thoughts for the office workers, visitors, first responders (fire, police, ambulance) and the many who died. Ranks up there close to Remembrance Day on November 11. At least it has for me the past 10 years. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Mrrzy Date: 10 Sep 11 - 12:46 PM Thank you for this thread, there is another one below the line refreshed from earlier retrospectives of 9.11. I am repeating my post on that thread here: Just remember, 9/11 was not the beginning! -Nov 4, 1979 - takeover of teheran embassy - first salvo in this third world war that has been being waged between the forces of fundamentalism (originally fundamentalist islam but the Xtian fundies are in too, now, thanks to Oslo) and the rest of civilization. And the bombing by Hezbollah in April, 1983 that killed my father. And all those planes blown out of the skies. And all those embassies attacked, not just ours. And all those hostages taken and individuals assassinated. And the earlier bombing of the World Trade Center... ...and I would really like this list to not get longer. Before 9/11, I spent Dad's birthday remembering how great he was and the anniversary of his death remembering how awful it is that he's still dead. On the actual 9/11 we all kind of fell apart, I didn't realize we had PTSD but I could not do any work - how could I write marketing letters when THIS had happened? Now I still do the death-day and birth-day rememberances for Dad, but I also spend 9/11 mourning all the dead from all the terrorist attacks. But more than that, I spend it mourning the fact that the US government still hasn't learned anything about how to get people to stop wanting to kill us all. My family had really hoped that, as horrible terrible no good and very bad 9-11 had been, at least now the US would finally *get* it. That they haven't, I think, may be sadder than all those deaths, dismemberments, and cripplings. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:00 PM Everyone is producing and playing nonstop-9/11 stuff now, so pace yourselves. I'm working in the yard with no radio out there, and the one in the house is set on the classical station. Stick your toe into all of the powerful memories and analysis as your nervous system allows. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Mrrzy Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:06 PM Um, quietly, I don't agree. It was a big fat hairy deal, and if going back into it makes you uncomfortable, well, I think that's a good thing. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:27 PM Mrrzy, there are people get way too wound up, who get depressed, who have problems with over-dose on media. Just because it is there doesn't mean it is good for everyone to consume it as it is dished out. You must remember that along with the programs comes advertising, and some of the material out there is frankly going to be overpowering to attract more eyes, and is quite possibly needlessly shocking. We're not talking "uncomfortable," we're talking clinical problems. And that isn't a good thing. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: SINSULL Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:33 PM I looked over the threads from Sept 11. Two things stick out for me: first, my nephew has never been able to speak about all he saw that morning. Bits and pieces but some things have to remain untouched. Second, the memory that the hospitals never filled with injured and were so packed with blood donors that they had to turn them away. Compared to the losses suffered by so many others in so many different places in wars and disasters, the losses at the towers and the Pentagon were insignificant. But as Americans we lost our innocent sense of safety.The threats we hear about supposedly planned for tomorrow are unpleasantly real. I remember back in the 80s when the brother of an Iranian friend told me (with more than a little superiority) that Americans were fools who didn't recognize that terrorists were plotting to attack them on their own soil. I remember looking at him as if he had three heads and saying "It will never happen here." He was right, at least about the terrorist plots. I still don't accept that we are fools. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Greg F. Date: 10 Sep 11 - 06:11 PM You must remember that along with the programs comes advertising.... You BET there's advertising! Plenty good money to be made off this tragedy! Ya think that might be why the air waves are awash with this stuff? Bruce has the right of it: "I have thoughts for the office workers, visitors, first responders (fire, police, ambulance) and the many who died. Ranks up there close to Remembrance Day on November 11." A day for quiet contemplation & rememberance, not wallowing in a media circus. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Mrrzy Date: 10 Sep 11 - 07:45 PM Some of us as Americans lost that sense of safety back on Nov 2, 1979, when the first of our embassies was stormed. I still find it amazing that all through the 80's and 90's *any* Stateside Americans kept that inno-sense. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: RoyH (Burl) Date: 11 Sep 11 - 06:38 AM Loving thoughts to all our American friends on this dreadful anniversary. Roy & Elaine Harris. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 11 Sep 11 - 07:24 AM On 9/11, a song which speaks of the terrible damage religion and power can do, when in the hands of those who seek to replace love with hate, support with destruction, trust with fear and inclusion with exclusion. A decade on I feel we have still not reversed the damage of 9/11, nor heard one correct answer about what really happened. However, today is a day of Remembrance for all those who died on that achingly sad day. 'Dragonfly' by Reg Meuross 'Dragonfly' by Reg Meuross "Silver wings from the blue Crash and burn cut in two Free to fly foreign shores Free to die for your cause ... Born in grief, raised in chains Blind belief, fear no pain Learn to fight, learn to hate Life is war, death is great The world is your enemy God is your king And if it's His Will You'll destroy everything You show no mercy for innocents Pity nor shame Sting dragon, sting Dragonfly, Dragonfly Is your faith so correct It requires no respect For the good and the pure And the wrongs they endure Those who live and let live Knowing life is to give They've a right to belong Ride the bus, sing their song Crash into satelites Blood on your wings You're jealous of sunlight And other of God's things The sun shines for everyone Peace is a blessing you earn Burn dragon, burn Dragonfly, Dragonfly Dragonfly Dragonfly Dragonfly Dragonfly....." |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 11 Sep 11 - 07:27 AM Each 9/11 should be A Day of Taking Stock Around The World, where the whole of Humanity gathers together in every town and city in every country, to remember the pain hatred and greed cause, to re-take and re-new The Vows of The Human Species which should be to care for Mother Earth, to care for Every Other Species and Each Other. No War. No Division. No Hatred. Everything Shared Willingingly Amongst One People, for that would bring Great Good to The Planet and to the Spirits of those who died. Turn it into something incredibly positive, with power to heal not only the families of those concerned, but the whole planet... It's not rocket science...but do those 'in charge' REALLY want such a thing to happen? Do they really WANT Peace to reign around The Planet? 9/11? A Day to Become Our OWN Leaders! |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 11 Sep 11 - 08:56 AM Apologies, I just need to correct a line from Reg Meuross's 'Dragonfly', above, which I put down wrongly: "..Crash into satelites Blood on your wings You're jealous of sunlight And other God's things The sun shines for everyone Peace is a blessing you earn Burn dragon, burn...." |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: open mike Date: 11 Sep 11 - 08:57 AM I recall that on that fateful day i was one of the many who were fighting a forest fire that had consumed tens of thousands of acres. We had a fire line 8 bull dozer blades wide and we were holding the fire from crossing into an area with limited access. We were getting help from the air with water and retardant drops as well as rescue helicopters providing medical evacuation for injured fire fighters. All the air support were forced to land when all planes in the country were grounded and we needed special permission to re-activate all the essential air support. This compromised our efforts on the POE fire. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Sep 11 - 09:20 AM I was preparing to take a trip a few days later but the flight and trip were cancelled. My ex was in a group that had travelled to Arkansas to teach a one-day training and was supposed to fly back to Fort Worth on Tuesday. They wisely kept the rental car when they realized what was happening and drove back to Texas. Mary, I remember about the temporary hospital setup - Ellis Island was one of the places established as a evacuation site to get injured away from the site across the water, but it was not needed, in the end it was a huge death count, the injured the originally anticipated didn't appear. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Mrrzy Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:17 PM From one of our own Catters: As I walked over London Bridge I heard Cassandra cry She saw the towers falling down, spill people from the sky And all of us saw what she saw, the buildings torn apart Saw the world turned upside down, a knife blade in the heart. As I walked out through London Town I heard Achilles weep He'd had a vision in the night which woke him from his sleep A different kind of slaughter in a different kind of war A thunderbolt from an open sky he'd never seen before. The snakes around Medusa's head spread confusion and deceit Her smile turns people's hearts to stone, success into defeat We think we can control our lives, we think we make the rules We look upon Medusa's face and then we know we're fools. As I walked through the Isle of Dogs Odysseus caught my arm He'd witnessed many battles but he'd never seen such harm How do you fight with shadows, how do you catch thin air How can you deal with evil when it drifts through everywhere? As I sat down on Hampstead Heath I called Athena's name But she was with the other gods, all playing stupid games Our leaders are their playthings and our future is their prize And every death in war is triumph through Medusa's eyes ….. The snakes around Medusa's head spread confusion and deceit Her smile turns people's hearts to stone, success into defeat We think we can control our lives, we think we make the rules We look upon Medusa's face and then we know we're fools. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:59 PM There's a live concert from the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Temple of Dendur playing right now. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Sep 11 - 04:20 PM Here's a memorial song from Paul Kaplan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU2uyABtmbE. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Sep 11 - 11:24 PM The New York Philharmonic played Mahler's "Resurrection" symphony in commemoration - I need to check that out. I love Mahler's works. I didn't watch anything tonight, but PBS is good about repeats or having things available online. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Songwronger Date: 11 Sep 11 - 11:55 PM 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory A 5-minute video that sums things up. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Janie Date: 11 Sep 11 - 11:57 PM The simplicity of the Memorial program at the WTC, including the music, was lovely and devastating. I was not able to watch all of it. I saw James Taylor, Paul Simon and Yoyo Ma and don't know if there were others. These were not performances. They were expressions from the heart, and expressed the hearts of many in the universal language of music. |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Sep 11 - 09:22 AM I didn't get past the reading of the names; a friend I meet for dog walking every morning morning today said the same thing happened to her - and we both ended up leaving the televisions and radios off the rest of the day. Nor did we follow it on the Internet. I think there will be some distilled portions of these memorials and concerts that will become available and I'll look for the performers Janie mentioned, but revisiting the entire thing is too difficult. A friend who lives at 14th and Seventh Ave in NYC was emotionally impacted like all New Yorkers (in some fashion - there is no claiming all experienced the same thing) and financially he was devastated by the event, as his work revolved around tourist tours around the harbor. Yesterday was a point in time where he looked back and could see how difficult it had been to get the services to keep him in his apartment and food on the table, all the while following the grim progress and watching to see if friends or acquaintances turned up on the dead or missing lists. And of the work it took to get to a point where he has some employment. He is still not back to where he was, but is at least doing it on his own. He told me about how that look back was good for him, but he declined to attend the tearful and wrenching ceremonies. This is just three of us - but I wonder how many actually watched everything that was offered yesterday? The parts I did hear were lovely - I tuned in online and listened to that early evening concert at the Met Museum for a while. That was beautiful, somber music, it didn't have the overlay of human voices or photos telling the ten-year-old events of the story. SRS |
Subject: RE: Sept 11, 2001 - 10 yr anniversary thread From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 12 Sep 11 - 10:09 AM 'Songwronger' - I'm right with you, with that video.. |
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