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Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?

GUEST,Curious Guest 14 Jul 13 - 06:17 PM
Leadfingers 14 Jul 13 - 07:02 PM
GUEST,spongebrother 14 Jul 13 - 07:44 PM
Phil Cooper 15 Jul 13 - 01:16 AM
bubblyrat 15 Jul 13 - 05:16 AM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Jul 13 - 07:26 AM
GUEST,Tumesmith 15 Jul 13 - 11:16 AM
Vic Smith 15 Jul 13 - 12:21 PM
GUEST,Curious Guest 16 Jul 13 - 12:07 PM
Vic Smith 16 Jul 13 - 12:34 PM
alex s 16 Jul 13 - 01:41 PM
Phil Cooper 16 Jul 13 - 02:04 PM
GUEST,Curious Guest 16 Jul 13 - 03:24 PM
Seamus Kennedy 17 Jul 13 - 02:19 AM
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Subject: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,Curious Guest
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 06:17 PM

My stepson is married to a Thai lady and whilst they were with us today she played a Thai traditional song which had an identical tune?

Chicken and egg or what?


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 07:02 PM

I hope you get a better response to your question than I got when I asked a similar Chicken and Egg question about the melody of WC Handy's
Careless Love and the tune used commonly for the Trad song Bunch of Thyme .


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,spongebrother
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 07:44 PM

This link gives the credits from the LP

It is credited to Swarbrick and Thompson


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 01:16 AM

Richard Thompson wrote the words and Dave Swarbrick did the tune.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 05:16 AM

I believe that Richard Thompson wrote it when only 17 years old , or so Anne ("Anna") Marcordes ( German fiddler , singer , and CD reviewer) told me .


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 07:26 AM

A tune is a small group of notes which someone has decided they liked. Inevitably more or less the same group of notes occurs to different people in different times and places, completely ndependently.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,Tumesmith
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 11:16 AM

Can we get a link to that Thai tune?
Or, at least, a song title!


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Vic Smith
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 12:21 PM

I interviewed Dave Swarbrick on a radio programme and he said that RT wrote the words to Crazy Man Michael and set them to a traditional tune. Swarb told him that this was a cop out and RT said, "OK, clever clogs, you make up a tune for it!" So he did.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,Curious Guest
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 12:07 PM

I'm working on getting a link.

Meanwhile - Vic - what was the traditional tune RT had in mind?

Incidentally our thoughts were that Swarbrick could have picked up the tune on one of his visits to Oz.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Vic Smith
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 12:34 PM

Meanwhile - Vic - what was the traditional tune RT had in mind?
I'm afraid that did not come up in the interview
Incidentally our thoughts were that Swarbrick could have picked up the tune on one of his visits to Oz.
CMM appeared in Leige & Leif in 1969 and was not brand new then.... when did Swarb first go to Australia? Not in the 1960s, I would have thought.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: alex s
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 01:41 PM

Maybe someone took a Fairport cd to Thailand....and the Thais liked the tune


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 02:04 PM

I believe the tune Richard Thompson thought of using was Bonnie House of Airlie (not sure of the spelling).


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,Curious Guest
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 03:24 PM

I'm starting to think that the Thai tune may well not be all it claims to be!

Still - it raised a few interesting points and conjectures.

Sometimes it's good to mudflap.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 02:19 AM

Years ago, a group of friends invited me and a Chinese lady who was visiting the U.S. to a dinner party.
After dining, the host wanted to have a little musical interlude, so we broke out the guitars and began to play and sing.
I did a few Irish songs, and the host sang some American folk songs.
We asked the Chinese lady whose English was rudimentary if she'd favor us with a Chinese song.
We were very surprised when the melody of her song was the same as the "Lowlands of Holland".
So, did English sailors bring the melody back from China, or did the Chinese get it from the singing of English sailors?


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: cooperman
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 03:47 AM

Would that be the Rowrands of Horrand?


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 03:58 AM

Oh good, an unfunny racist joke. That's nice...


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: cooperman
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 07:09 AM

I apologise for that. Getting back to the subject, I have always loved this song. RT and DS at their best - what amazing talents.


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Subject: RE: Who wrote the tune to Crazy Man Michael?
From: GUEST,Curious Guest
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 12:13 PM

Quite a number of my Dublin friends talk about tursday the tird.

Hope I'm not being racist!


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