Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands

Subject: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 10:24 AM

On Richard Thompson's Rumour & Sigh album, at the end of "Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands" it morphs into a Scottish dance tune - does anyone know what it's called?

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 10:45 AM

put up a clip of the tune , we might be able to tell you ,but do not assume that everyone listens to Richard Thompson, snd knows automatically what you are talking about

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: G-Force
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 10:54 AM

There's two. The first is 'Bluebell Polka', don't know the second.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 10:55 AM

here's one clip, Sandman.

It goes into one part of the Bluebell Polka and then some jig I can't place.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 10:55 AM

Cross posted there, G-Force...

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 11:12 AM

Thank you Sandman, it's the tune from 3:50 I'm after.

It was played by a session band on BBC Radio Scotland "Take the Floor", which I record every week from the webstream.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: GUEST,Roger
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 11:42 AM

It sounds like some variant of The Masons Apron.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Vic Smith
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 12:11 PM

Click here to hear it

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 01:11 PM

jesus, what a mess merging the bluebell polka with some jig makes it difficult. a variant of the masons apron, how about a variant of a cacophony. could it be father o flynn at his crucifixion

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 01:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vea01KbQ-_k
is this it? father o flynn crucified at the top of the cork road

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 01:50 PM

It sounds like The Ship in Full Sail.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 02:16 PM

It does slightly, but I'm wondering if it's one of John Kirkpatrick's tunes?

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 02:47 PM

i think it is The Ship in Full Sail.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 04:26 PM

Many thanks

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Johnny J
Date: 31 Oct 21 - 07:25 PM

I think it is a version of "Pet of the Pipers"

https://thesession.org/tunes/5132

Actually, none of the ones listed there are identical to the setting I play either but I'm pretty sure it's the same tune as that on the track.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 01 Nov 21 - 08:18 AM

It is Pet of the Pipers, very similar to the version in Allan's Irish Fiddler.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 02:56 AM

Definitely Pet of the Pipers - see BBC Radio Scotland "Take the Floor" session 27 March 2021.

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 03:03 AM

TITLE: The Happy Meeting
a) Greenholm
b) The Cobbler
c) Pet of The Pipers
d) Over The Hills
ARTIST: Craig McCallum Scottish Dance Band
BBC Take The Floor Recording

No longer available on the iplayer of course, but it's on my hard drive!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 06:37 AM

Pet of the Pipers with very irritating twiddly bits. Having first heard this tune played by JK in Morris On style - that's the way to go for me!!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 11:16 AM

The Richard Thompson Band performed "Jimmy Shands" in it's entirety at the London Palladium on 03/11/91, with DM on thunderous drumms!!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 11:28 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FH7Kj_V6-c

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Nov 21 - 01:25 PM

On bowed psaltery !!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 03:46 AM

IMO not enough emphasis on ist and fourth beats, too even for jig playing, but i suppose an improvement on the original mix which was cacophonic to start with

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 04:14 AM

The Bowed Psaltery, is an instrument with limitations, ,it is very difficult to play legato, this is overcome partially by the sympathetic ringing of strings, it has the opposite problems of the hammered dulcimer which is difficult to play staccato and requires damping to stop the continuous ringing of strings

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 04:44 PM

"The Richard Thompson Band performed "Jimmy Shands" in it's entirety at the London Palladium on 03/11/91, with DM on thunderous drums" - 30 years ago today !!!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 04:54 PM

Here's the RT Band 30 years ago tonight!!

Subject: RE: Don't Sit on my Jimmy Shands
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Feb 23 - 04:47 PM

Joe - combine