BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 05:41 PM

A little less toadying my arse. If there's any toadying going on around here it's coming from you pretending that you're getting me onside and weaseling up accordingly (as I haven't a bloody clue what side you're s'posed to be on, that would be rather difficult). You are very amusing but you're still a twat. Yeah, stick a veneer of funny all over a twat, but it's still a twat. Am I scoring?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 06:21 PM

dave gnome- come up short here! stringsinger started this thread.
I doubt that he appreciates being called a christian fundamentalist.
I don't mind it though. simply means I believe the bible - perhaps the only one here who does. but I am not forcing anyone to convert, nor would if I could. repentance and faith has to be voluntary and sincere to be genuine. but I care enough to give expression to my faith, even if rejected.

i'm sure you do know the difference ,stu ,but evolutionists continue to offer examples of natural selection as though it were evidence for particles to people evolution. and as you know natural selection has not been shown to increase the information required for that.

yes shimrod, I have a faith position, but based on what we know, that nothing comes into existence except from already existent life.
I posit God who is spiritual life and created by his word without recourse to already existing material.
not something you have seemingly any intention of entertaining.
I respect your right to carry on believing that all came from nothing via no one.
I don't think it should be imposed on our kids though , as if it were established fact.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 07:06 PM

stringsinger started this thread

Wrong again Pete me old fruit. I have no idea whatsoever why Shitflinger started this one as there was already a perfectly valid one here started by Matelot Jaques. This is just a continuation.

As to what you believe in, fine by me. But when someone starts saying that atheists are as militant as you fundamentalists then it is up to us to correct the misconception. Carry on believing in the bible and I will carry believing in Doctor Who, Fairies at the bottom of the garden and everything that Conc tells us. OK?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 07:09 PM

Oh, and cut the crap about imposing stuff on kids. We have had at least 2000 years of that from your lot along with brutal punishments for those who disagree. All anyone on here has ever proposed is that we give kids the tools to make up their own minds.

D.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 08:05 PM

evolutionists continue to offer examples of natural selection as though it were evidence for particles to people evolution. and as you know natural selection has not been shown to increase the information required for that.

Absolute balderdash, and yet another example of you having a pitch at something you've tried and failed with before but think we might have forgotten about. Well we haven't. In the context of evolution you have shown that you have simply no idea what "information" is, yet you prattle proudly on as if you do. Dishonest, disreputable, a disgrace to your faith and downright vacuous.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket living the dream
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 01:22 AM

Ok. We don't need to move on from pete proclaiming his faith as it is self evident. We do however need to note why it is relevant to this thread.

He is falling into the trap of feeling his faith itself is being questioned whereas in the spirit of this particular thread it is when faith extends its influence outside of church or temple and tries to find a place to fit in reality. That's what is being questioned.

Oh dear.

The idea that God did it may have been a comfortable way of filling in the gaps when just about everybody was hard wired into a faith but society has moved on. Society has evolved, and rather rapidly in the last 50 years in this country. Same in The USA really but reactionary forces are more vocal and prevalent. In Dumbfuckistan they will host a book burning. Here they write odd letters to The Times.

The message is the same. Identify lack of faith. Call it atheism. Make it the bogey man.

So we end up with threads asking if the bogey man is militant. We get a thread pointing out the persecution people identified as one particular cult receive and we get concerted effort to shout down anyone who sees through the fog.

Mind you. Not blaming pete for that last bit. He is the only committed Christian to speak on this thread and whilst he is on a hiding to nothing and berates the march of discovery with simplistic ignorance (which is rather annoying) at least he tries to make a case for what faith ultimately means.

I reckon faith means putting an imposed set of ideas above your own reasoning. The aim being not allowing your own reasoning to get a look in. Then you will have found the face of God.



I am enjoying writing bollocks masquerading as high brow shit masquerading as bollocks. A vicar friend told me yesterday that they were trained to write sermons aimed at Sun readers not Guardian ones.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 03:09 AM

I reckon faith means....

As if any thinking person gives a shit what you reckon on that subject!
You have demonstrated your bigoted ignorance over and over.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 03:35 AM

"I posit God who is spiritual life and created by his word without recourse to already existing material."


"I respect your right to carry on believing that all came from nothing via no one."

If you take away the pious bullshit ("spiritual life", "his word") then, surely, to any rational observer, the second statement is marginally more credible than the first (?) And, again, it's not a question of BELIEF it's a question of EVIDENCE. There is no evidence for God but there is evidence for a 'Big Bang' (whatever that was).

There is also evidence, from the fossil record, that, in the past, some living organisms became extinct and new ones emerged. The best model, so far, to explain such events is the theory of evolution.

There are missing pieces in both the cosmological and evolutionary 'jigsaws' - but that's science for you! For the forseeable future, scientists will work diligently to fill in the gaps - but the one thing that I am confident about is that there always will be gaps.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 05:29 AM

Ah.. My troll follows me onto most threads these days. Except the music ones for now, thank Clapton.

I'm a bigot.

No thinking person gives a shit what I reckon on his pet subject.

The latter puts me in company with everyone else, the former is what zealots and bigoted members of looney fringe organisations shout when they are caught with their trousers down.

I repeat. pete is the only real Christian who posts on these threads. He is the only one who sees no weasel worded difference between belief and believing. The only one who doesn't pick and choose what is convenient to believe and throw in the face of others. Smug self satisfied sanctimonious hypocrisy is not part of his creed.

Still reckon he is deluded mind.... I also reckon his posts insult the intelligence of others.

Keith A of Hertford however demonstrates why the co Messiahs and associated gnome exist in the first place.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: TheSnail
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 06:17 AM


There is also evidence, from the fossil record, that, in the past, some living organisms became extinct and new ones emerged. The best model, so far, to explain such events is the theory of evolution.

Your first sentence seems to be talking about evolution but the secomd says "the theory of evolution". Could you clarify please?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 07:43 AM

"i'm sure you do know the difference ,stu ,but evolutionists continue to offer examples of natural selection as though it were evidence for particles to people evolution. and as you know natural selection has not been shown to increase the information required for that."

Why do you think different organisms have genomes of different lengths? Ask yourself how this might occur. Alleles are being exchanged, and genetic information is being accrued during this process. In fact, the length of the genome appears to be largely irrelevant when it comes to the complexity of the organism.

Your designer ain't purging his caches.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as concerened
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 07:45 AM

Steady on shaw!!!! calling a superior officer a twat constitutes gross misconduct.

No toadying intended; I just made a dreadful mistake (unlike me)..I fecked up!! I trusted you..wont happen again.

No score I am afraid..stick lipstick on a pig and he is still a pig may have done it,

However, it must come a as a great disappointment to you, but as well from being a phony..you aint very funny.

Well you know what happens to unfunny phony's..yes!!!.. that's right!!Back to the thumb up bum game with added crayons.

Now just in case you have forgot the rules, follow these instructions and take three times a day:

1. take box of crayons
2. start placing them very carefully up your bum
3. now carefully insert thumb up bum.
4. start dribbling out of the corner of your mouth
5. repeat after me "I am a judgmental, patronising, woosy, ginger cake inhabitant,centrist phony"

Now doesn't that feel better, fraud?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 07:49 AM

Extinction is not part of evolution.
It is a failure to evolve.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket loves ginger nuts
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:13 AM

Hey lover! I'm having problems coming to terms with ginger cake inhabitant. It seems like something I once aspired to be, (Carol Decker singing China in your hands always did it for me...)

Now... This is odd. Someone has genuinely left a pack of crayons on my desk for me. Buggered if I know who or why. It wasn't there when I wandered off to the canteen for my mid morning brew but was there when I got back.

Can you confirm whether I have to join in the bum filling game or whether on account of us being lovers, I don't have to? Only with the door shut, I have method and opportunity, just need motive really.

And not wishing to let ignorance from others contaminate our high brow thread....

Entropy tells us the arrow of time is consistent with the second law of thermodynamics. Hence for local entropy to give us an evolved position, with the decrease in entropy this causes, the balance has to be struck by an increase in environmental entropy, which can through cause and effect be met by extinction. Examples making use of the food chain to describe events show this to be the case in many instances.

In that sense, extinction is a key tenet of evolution.



(Rutherford claimed that science is physics and sundry stamp collecting. Bringing evolutionary biology down to the level of physics often brings clarity....) sorry, I don't have the figures for specific Christian entropy.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:22 AM

Entropy tells us the arrow of time is consistent with the second law of thermodynamics. Hence for local entropy to give us an evolved position, with the decrease in entropy this causes, the balance has to be struck by an increase in environmental entropy, which can through cause and effect be met by extinction. Examples making use of the food chain to describe events show this to be the case in many instances.
In that sense, extinction is a key tenet of evolution.


No.
Species become extinct when they fail to adapt to their environment.
Extinction is a dead end.
Extinct species cease to evolve.

"Examples making use of the food chain to describe events show this to be the case in many instances."
Perhaps you could share some relevant examples with us?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as concerened
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:55 AM

Fear not musket sweety..you are the last to be involved in the bum filling game xxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:56 AM

Be afraid. Be very afraid...
http://www.timesunion.com/news/us/article/Atheist-mega-churches-take-root-across-US-world-4972634.php

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 09:10 AM

Fear not musket sweety..you are the last to be involved in the bum filling game xxxxxxxxxxx

Ha, knew it! You're definitely a woman then... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 09:12 AM

"There is also evidence, from the fossil record, that, in the past, some living organisms became extinct and new ones emerged. The best model, so far, to explain such events is the theory of evolution."

Your first sentence seems to be talking about evolution but the secomd says "the theory of evolution". Could you clarify please?

Don't fall for this, Shim. There's no correct answer. He'll stalk you for ever more, I assure you!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket on a roll
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:04 AM

Oh yes! Mind you, being the last to be in the bum filling game isn't the same as not being in it at all...

The crayons? Turns out they are for me, but should have been marker pens for a presentation I am giving this afternoon as the electronic whiteboard is sulking as usual. (Turns out it was donated by the IT company making them, but they do well out of us mending the *%#+€!! thing.) so the upshot is, nothing is going to get shot up me.

Co messiah S's advice to Shimrod is something I am heeding regarding Keith A of Hertford. Although his ignorance does raise an interesting factor in the evolution debate per se. Evolution of a given species versus evolution of all organic life forms. My entropy point works for the fact that evolution of one can depend on the extinction of another and vice versa, making them entwined in destiny as it were, whereas some of the "God did it" crowd confuse evolution with transmogrification, which in entropy terms is always one way.

Just a thought. I don't like using big words normally and I am so out of date on such subjects I question some of the detail myself, but no matter. At least one shallow twat always looking to make me look an idiot. (Two if you include our resident queer basher.)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:08 AM

I really am not trying to make you look an idiot.
It just happens.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:25 AM

Snail, if you believe that I have been guilty of terminological inexactitude, please feel free to enlighten me.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as concerened
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:55 AM

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! did you work that all by your little self shaw..or did you ring the fraud wizzjet for some assistance?

Read me post again stooooooooooooopid, and never jump to conclusions..sweetpants musket didn't

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,musket with pan handle
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 12:47 PM

Bless you sweetikins. X

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 12:50 PM

"Extinction is not part of evolution. It is a failure to evolve."

Extinction plays a huge role in evolution. All species become extinct at some point allowing speciation to occur. Major extinction events such as the Cretaceous-Palaeogene event means a burst in speciation and allows entire new ecosystems to evolve, in this case the demise of non-avian dinosaurs that led to a rapid increase in mammal diversity and disparity, some evolving into giant forms.

Labelling extinction a failure is repeating an old trope we were all taught at school, but is the wrong way to think about extinction. Extinction is an inability to adapt and as an evironment changes, species become extinct. Look at the mass extinction we're causing on the planet now as we alter the environment organisms live in too quickly or simply slaughtering them en-masse; these species are not failing, we are.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket with bad news
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 02:29 PM

We've been blown...

Stringsinger has lost confidence in our ability to deal with religious nonsense and started a new thread.

Bugger.

I was just about to see if my new girlfriend would let me get past first base too. I got some free aftershave with a coat I bought the other week, popped home via the cemetery to get her some flowers, brought my annual bath forward.......

And it looks like the thread is about to ge

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 03:09 PM

"Look at the mass extinction we're causing on the planet now as we alter the environment organisms live in too quickly or simply slaughtering them en-masse; these species are not failing, we are."

Sad thing is, we'll never know what comes after us - and we'll never know whether it will fool itself into believing in a God!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,The artist formally known as concerened
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 06:31 PM

Its dead easy sweetcheeks..leave us go and hijack the other site..come on playnates last one in is bum inhabitant ginger woosy..lolx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 07:38 PM

The thing about evolution is that it just happens. That's a great truth. "Just" is very important there: no-one runs it, guides it, oversees it, directs it or invents it, and it has no goals of its own. Evolution is a completely natural process that will take place as long as three conditions obtain: that life exists, that heritable material can miscopy, and that the environment is subject to change. Extinctions happen for many reasons but they do not drive evolution. An extinction, in one sense, is a dead end, but, who knows, the ancestor of the extinct being may still be there. So might the ancestor of the ancestor, come to think of it. If some brave soul has ever put a numerical limit on the number of species that can exist at any given time, well I haven't seen it.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Nobody in Particular
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:04 PM

Shshshhhh, don't tell anyone, they'll think your an oxymoron!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 02:18 AM

Extinction is indeed a dead end. DNA does seem to have the ability to tell a historical story though. I find it fascinating that from a biology aspect the link between evolution and extinction goes little further than both being tenets of survival of the fittest, whereas from a pure physics aspect, they are linked through entropy.

Interesting sideline discussion and worthy of more debate than the shallow "I say they are different" amateur philosophy cadet contribution further up the screen. Although to be fair, the contribution was just to try to make me look a prat rather than know what he was talking about.






Hi lover!   The definition of ginger bum cake inhabitant is beginning to become clear. Just off out to buy some velvet ankle straps and a bottle of plonk.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 03:03 AM

It is not all about you Musket.
It was Shimrod who raised the issue of extinction and evolution.
I responded to him, and you responded to me.
I really do not try to make you look a pratt.
The blame lies nearer to home.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 04:19 AM

"survival of the fittest"

Think of it more as 'survival of the best adapted' rather than 'fittest'.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: TheSnail
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 05:30 AM

Steve Shaw
The thing about evolution is that it just happens. That's a great truth.

Well, you can't argue with that.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 05:44 AM

Fair point Stu. Although fit for purpose works too.






You know, the more Musket lets soppy turn the cheek Ian out, the less reasons to do so.Keith really doesn't invite decent open honest debate. I am so glad I address his tedious logic chopping under Musket rather than the inclusive listening Ian. Musket doesn't mind reminding him what a twat he is.

But for what it is, Ian reckons he's a twat too.   You cannot even begin to debate with him.   At least with pete you know what to expect but Keith can be reasonable if he chooses. His dogma driving his views though. ......   I thought Jim Carroll would argue for the hell of it but he isn't in the same league. ......

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 06:13 AM

Extinction and "survival of the fittest" (the latter a gloss put on Darwin's notions that he didn't coin himself and was reluctant to embrace) have nothing to do with each other. Species become extinct; natural selection does not "weed out poorly-adapted species" but leads to differential survival of heritable traits within species.This confusion, intentional or otherwise, is in danger of bringing superb science into disrepute, a process deliberately embarked on by idiots such as pete and his dishonest ilk and unfortunately promoted by third-rate "popular science" writing.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally the troll called conceren
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 06:36 AM

Hey Shaw..can I ask one sensible question.....Don't you ever get fed up with quoting all that semi digested crap?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 06:44 AM

I'm a biologist, sugar tits, and I look stuff up carefully before I spout. Which is more than can be said about some of the offerings here on evolution, etc. Now if you care to apprise me of the bits that you find semi-digested, I'll respond accordingly. Otherwise, stick to what you're good at, which is being bloody amusing but innocent of any real content. My next prediction is that you'll soon be in bed with a snail. In which case it don't matter what gender you are because a snail is both so you'll be able to take your pick of what you get up to between the sheets. Sniffily yours.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 07:34 AM

"Species become extinct; natural selection does not "weed out poorly-adapted species" but leads to differential survival of heritable traits within species."

This.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 02:30 PM

".....genetic information is being accrued.." stu.
perhaps you might give a few indisputable examples out of the evolutionary research demonstrating this claim.
dawkins didn't do too well answering this sort of question.
maybe you can help him out!

I confess that I did not understand too well the rest of your reply.
what has the length [is that=volume of information?] to do with it.
surely we would expect higher organisms to have longer or larger genomic volume.
and are not alelles alternative info, eg long/short hair.
ie selection from pre-existing info, not a resource for new information?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 03:01 PM

".....genetic information is being accrued.." stu.
perhaps you might give a few indisputable examples out of the evolutionary research demonstrating this claim.
dawkins didn't do too well answering this sort of question.
maybe you can help him out!

Lemme help you out, pete. You have a head with hair and organs displaying bilateral symmetry (the fact that it contains nothing in your case is beside the point). The earliest life (in which you do not believe, but hey ho) had no head, no hair, no organs, etc. Those structures have got there by dint of genetic material (not "information") being copied, miscopied and selected for in billions of tiny transactions over billions of years. One day you'll stop waffling on about "information". Trying to abstractify that which is not abstract is a well-known ploy indulged in by people who try to delude other people. In your case, though, it's more a thoroughly deluded person indulging in pigshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 04:15 AM

I reckon that this thread is not evolving and is in danger of extinction.

I suppose that not giving a name to our true religion means that nobody can set up a reformed non name true religion, but that's about it.

I suggest we blow the proceeds of the collection boxes on a huge box of crayons, organise a night at the local Gala bingo, and on the way home knock on the vicarage front door and run off laughing.

Snag is, we'd need another thread to shout at Christians, logic choppers and trolls. AND I doubt my charm, elegance and willy will attract a fan the second time around.

Mind you, I live in hope.   (Being a Derbyshire lad, we tend to say I'd rather live in Hope than die in Clay Cross....)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:14 AM

Can we have condoms to put on our thumbs as well, please?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket examining machine in gents
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:21 AM

Chocolate, raspberry or banana flavour?

The banana ones only seem to come in rIbbed design. The chocolate ones seem big enough for my thumb but the others are a wee bit tight.

Decisions, decisions, decisions.....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as the troll concer
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:42 AM

talking of condoms: a guy walked into a bar in Aberdeen, he says to his mate " Hey Jimmy, I have just been in the cludgy and they have a condom machine that sells whiskey flavored condoms!!"

His mate says.."malt or blended?"

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:51 AM

"surely we would expect higher organisms to have longer or larger genomic volume."

You might, mightn't you? And in some cases they do, but often they don't and I'm not an expert in this area but Steve might be able to explain why is, or where research int his area is up to.

Your term "higher organisms" indicates an outdated and outmoded way of thinking. When taxonomists talk of "higher taxa" they are not talking about the complexity of the genome or the superiority of the organism but it's derived status and therefore it's assignment to a clade based on it's autapomorphies. It does not mean they are somehow 'better' than anything else (apologies if this is what you meant).

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 07:48 AM

Guy walks into a baker's shop in Glasgow, points to a confection in the window and asks "Is that a cake or a meringue?"

Assistant replies "No, you're right. It's a cake."

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 07:52 AM

I'm not sure what "larger or longer genomic volume" actually means, but I suspect I have more of an inkling than pete. For example, do you suppose it means "more genes"?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as the troll concer
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 03:05 PM

Surely we would expect longer or larger genomic value ginger bum inhabitant woosy cake eaters to understand the taxonomists view of the higher taxa and the higher gnomet view of his complex superia.organism.

But again, does this not indicate a assignment to a glade based automorphism, or its crap based patronising views of frauds such as wizzjet and shaw,

However, it does not mean that he is higher than anyone else..but in point of fact he is still speaking as much shite as the rest of you..frauds, cake eating centrists, patronising gobshites to a man/woman man!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 03:37 PM

Here. .. This man /woman stuff. ... You wouldn't perchance be of the persuasion that would have Akenaton hating me even more?

When I felt a lump
Me heart went thump...


You never did tell me your favourite colour lover?