BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 05:52 PM

stu - looking up "autapomorthy " , it seems to me that assigning something which has a feature that is unique makes it difficult to place in an exact clade. would the platypus be an example of this?.
[I imagine that had it become extinct, it might be heralded as transitional!]
I am having difficulty understanding what your point is. whilst I appreciate organisms may be grouped together due to variation by natural selection, there is little ,if any evidence that any grouping beyond those limits is legitimate , since your common descent is equally, if not better explained by a common design .
when I say information, I am referring to the code of dna "letters" that continually "write" the same "blueprint". there is no evidence being offered that anything beyond that is being copied that could lead to macro evolution.

I am curious as to whether you think anything is better than something else. for example , the "simplest" single cell ,though having some complexity is much lower than the higher taxa.
do you see humanity as not having more value than lower forms, or do you see a line of demarcation somewhere- mammals perhaps?.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:08 PM

However, it does not mean that he is higher than anyone else..but in point of fact he is still speaking as much shite as the rest of you..frauds, cake eating centrists, patronising gobshites to a man/woman man!!

Yeah, twat-face, but my frickin' joke was funnier than your frickin' insipid apology for a joke so stick that up yer fragrantly unwashed chocolate-smeared squishy girlie tushy botty (phwoarr!) with a whole box of condom-covered crayons, or, even better, a baker's dozen of king-size frickin' pritt-sticks still with their sharp lids on, an' then see if you can still shit 'ard!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:14 PM

stu - looking up "autapomorthy " , it seems to me that assigning something which has a feature that is unique makes it difficult to place in an exact clade. would the platypus be an example of this?.
[I imagine that had it become extinct, it might be heralded as transitional!]
I am having difficulty understanding what your point is. whilst I appreciate organisms may be grouped together due to variation by natural selection, there is little ,if any evidence that any grouping beyond those limits is legitimate , since your common descent is equally, if not better explained by a common design .
when I say information, I am referring to the code of dna "letters" that continually "write" the same "blueprint". there is no evidence being offered that anything beyond that is being copied that could lead to macro evolution.

I am curious as to whether you think anything is better than something else. for example , the "simplest" single cell ,though having some complexity is much lower than the higher taxa.
do you see humanity as not having more value than lower forms, or do you see a line of demarcation somewhere- mammals perhaps?.

No, really, I'm curious: were you pissed out of your head or on drugs when you typed this utter bollocks?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: TheSnail
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 08:03 PM

Sizes of Various Genomes

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 02:53 AM

Leave us genomes out of it.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 10:47 AM

"it seems to me that assigning something which has a feature that is unique makes it difficult to place in an exact clade"

Pete, you haven't got to grips with this at all. If you really want to disprove a theory, then you need to understand it first. Seriously.


"I am curious as to whether you think anything is better than something else. for example , the "simplest" single cell ,though having some complexity is much lower than the higher taxa.
do you see humanity as not having more value than lower forms, or do you see a line of demarcation somewhere- mammals perhaps?."

Better in what way? Define better.

If, however you mean 'superior' then I believe all living beings are equal in the sense we are part of the complex and wonderful web of life on this planet. No one organism is truly superior as every living thing is a single stage in a long and complex process, a living snapshot of evolution as it is now.

As I've mentioned before, the idea in Genesis that says man has dominion over all living things is a message of pure evil, elevating humankind above the rest of nature and giving a certain type of person licence to abuse and exploit the other living beings and the environment they live in under some sort of twisted moral authority. Of course, godless people do the same but at least they might admit their motivation and uncaring and inconsiderate attitude.


"when I say information, I am referring to the code of dna "letters" that continually "write" the same "blueprint""

But they don't you see. That's the point.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 10:54 AM

Stu... Good luck. You realise he is taking the piss? He makes the co messiahs and associated gnome look amateurs. We aren't in his league.

If I can pick you up on the point about man's dominion in Genesis being evil. Yes.

However, Sheffield Wednesday does have dominion over all other football teams. Natural selection and all that.

If Sheffield United were playing in my garden I'd close the curtains.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as the troll concer
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 12:18 PM

Tut, Tut shaw..told you before opprobrious epithets only show you up as the prat you really are.

You do get it wrong don't you? your insipid cake eating apology joke equates equally between your tiny apology for a mind and your tinier apology for a dick..I can see by your pornographic post that you fantasise about me..dream on baby.I am promised to another

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 02:25 PM

"I am curious as to whether you think anything is better than something else. for example , the "simplest" single cell ,though having some complexity is much lower than the higher taxa.
do you see humanity as not having more value than lower forms, ..."

Well, pete, it's worth bearing in mind a quote from the great American scholar and anthropologist, Jared Diamond i.e.:

"Elimination of lots of lousy little species regularly causes big harmful consequences for humans, just as does randomly knocking out many of the lousy little rivets holding together an airplane."

You see, nothing is superior to anything else and everything is interdependent. That doesn't stop 'god-fearing' 'superior' human beings from trashing the world around them and endlessly knocking out thousands of "lousy little rivets". One day soon the airplane is going to come crashing down and there will be no one left to fear God!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 03:35 PM

I am promised to another

2 degrees. Maybe.

Vice Admiral of the Tanzanian Navy. You never know.

But, c'mon, Conc. You really are stretching our imaginations inferring that there is someone else as daft as you.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as the troll concer
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 04:23 PM

Well gnomet, call me daft if you will but let me put it this way;

1.You have identified me as a troll
2. I have identified me as a troll
3. The accepted way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.
4. It would be really daft to carry on banter/trade insults with a troll.
5. You and the nomark, centrist, ginger cake inhabitant, pseudo academics relentlessly keep on the banter/trading insults with me, an identified self admitted troll.

I don't think I need to infer there is someone who is dafter than me? Do you ?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 05:53 PM

The biter bit! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 05:57 PM

All well and good, Conc, but you fall at the first hurdle.

I don't believe you are a Troll. That would require a modicum of intelligence.

Ake. Glad you are associating with your own sort.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll formally known as the troll concer
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 04:41 AM

Gnomet you are a thick clod.......but I cant believe even you are that thick...just admit defeat and get back to shoving the clinker covered crayons up the round brown, with the rest of the judgemental thickos?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll not really a troll?
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 07:12 AM

..and leave ake outa this.. he is perfectly capable of making himself look a prick without your assistance thank you weary much

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 08:20 AM

However, Sheffield Wednesday does have dominion over all other football teams. Natural selection and all that.

I always understood that the Sheff Wed team was a prime example of desperate selection.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket the repeater
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 08:44 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll not really a troll?
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 07:12 AM

..and leave ake outa this.. he is perfectly capable of making himself look a prick without your assistance thank you weary much




No comment. Just repeating it in case anyone missed it earlier.



Hi lover! How's it going sweetikins? X

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 01:19 PM

If he really made himself look a prick he might have to have himself compulsorily inspected.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket gettin.. can't be arsed
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 01:50 PM

I used to inspect in a healthcare way of doing things. I shan't be lining up to volunteer to stigmatise him.

After all, like the people he demonises, he has the freedom in our country of not being touched by anybody in a healthcare way without his consent.

Anyway. Must dash. Promised to do a spot at a charity concert down the road in Hatfield tonight. Scrub that Roy Harper song I normally sing. .... (Tom Tiddlers Ground.)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 03:35 PM

"....message of pure evil.." stu?
and on what basis do you ascertain and pronounce something as evil?
...on your own subjective morality, I presume.
and to shimrod too, charging that the genesis dominion mandate is a license for selfishness, carelessness and destruction. adam was put into the garden to tend it,- which I suppose makes him some kind of conservationist! there are a number of other texts which teach care of animals and even trees.
that of course wont fit with your preconceived ideas of biblical teaching.
what you do seem to understand, is that if you grant the greater and more distinct properties of humanity, it might lead to implications of his being made in Gods image.
that will never do, will it?.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Nov 13 - 08:49 PM

"Pure evil" applies to any message, propagated to the bigger world, that preaches certainty about mythology. I can't think of anything more nastily dishonest than that. A message that preaches that the world would be a better place were this ideology to prevail. That there is just one true faith, the one that is propagated by one book, the Bible, that enjoys no foundation whatsoever in evidence. That all hard-working science counts for nothing in the light of a superior being who can't be explained and who almost certainly does not exist. Pete, you yourself adhere to all these things, and every point I've covered is an example of pure evil. Why? Because they are deliberately intended to steer people towards one particular, discredited creed and away from truth. That is pure evil. You yourself are either pure evil (if you believe this stuff and desire to propagate it) or you're a fool who's been hoodwinked. I've decided which you are. So over to you.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 03:29 AM

" ... charging that the genesis dominion mandate is a license for selfishness, carelessness and destruction. adam was put into the garden to tend it,- which I suppose makes him some kind of conservationist!"

Yes, it does appear to be a licence for all of those things, doesn't it, pete? You may recall that when western Christians - and their priests - went to other parts of the world they not only enslaved and oppressed the people they found there but also trashed their environments. And this trashing is still going on and is accelerating. These days the religious elements have largely been lost but I reckon that, if you dug down, you'd find the toxic concept of "dominion" to be at the root of this catastrophic destruction.

" ... there are a number of other texts which teach care of animals and even trees."

What do you mean by AND EVEN TREES, pete? In your world, are trees 'lower' than animals?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 04:31 AM

Weren't sycamore created in his image or something like that?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 05:54 AM

I see my sweet baby muskett is right on board with the programme as usual.

This truly great man has more sense in his little pinky that the rest of you cake eating, ginger inhabited bozos put together!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 07:19 AM

Nothing makes me sycamore than ginger cake.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 10:28 AM

Ha Ha tee Hee!!! pass me my girdle me sides are splitting..how long did it take to work that piece of pathetic verbiage, shaw you prancing poser.?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 02:47 PM

Come off of it, tit. There's coffee splattered all over your keyboard and you know it!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 03:10 PM

Ok. Never one to run from a contrived pun. .

Sorry Messiah S. Conc is obviously a perceptive young lady, as she rightly sees me as a bit of alright. .

Hi sweetikins! You never did tell me your favourite colour? {Giggle}

By the way lover, I know of a washing powder that can get baby oil out of stockings xxx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 06:39 PM

I like to see trees ,shimrod, and I know they are ecologically important.
but if a tree needs to come down I don't worry if I do it in the most humane way possible. I do care if animal life is mistreated or there is needless careless suffering inflicted.
as to your other comments-
a/you attack the bible by the [alleged] practises of Christians.
b/you concede yourself that there is no or little religious element currently in the "catastrophic destruction"
c/if you want to cite the faults of the religious ,past or present, I can surely cite the evil of evolution believers, if you wanna go down that path again.
so ,I think your argument flawed, but at least there was one, unlike steve who sounds like the needles stuck...evolution true ,darwin elegant, creationists evil...ad nauseum.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Nov 13 - 06:56 PM

if you want to cite the faults of the religious ,past or present, I can surely cite the evil of evolution believers, if you wanna go down that path again.
so ,I think your argument flawed, but at least there was one, unlike steve who sounds like the needles stuck...evolution true ,darwin elegant, creationists evil...ad nauseum.

It's "ad nauseam" you ignorant git. Additionally, there are no "evolution believers". I mean, how many bloody times do we have to tell you this? Are you completely bloody stupid or what? You do not "believe" in a tenet of science. You weigh up the EVIDENCE (did you manage to read that word or shall we give you a few dictionary references for it?) and you come to a conclusion based on that EVIDENCE. You do not "have faith" or "believe in it". Only twats such as yourself apply such low-bar qualifications to the stuff you're force-fed with. We scientific types are sceptical by default. Tell us to "believe" stuff and we tell you to sod off (so sod off). We accept nothing without EVIDENCE and the EVIDENCE bar is set very high (you wouldn't understand, of course, because nothing you believe in can be corroborated by EVIDENCE). Also, do apprise us of evil done by advocates of evolution. Real evolution, not the nonsense your silly websites tell you about social "Darwinism" or Hitler (who, had he been alive today, would have been one hundred percent on your side. As yanks say, go bloody figure).

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 04:08 AM

"I like to see trees ,shimrod, and I know they are ecologically important.
but if a tree needs to come down I don't worry if I do it in the most humane way possible."

How do you chop a tree down 'humanely', pete?

And I agree with Steve, your stubborn refusal to acknowledge the difference between blind 'belief' and understanding based on evidence is getting very tiresome!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 04:27 AM

My actual task for this sunny Sunday morning. ..

Two wild cherry trees that weren't part of the landscape design when it was carried out a few years ago have now become so large they bugger the symmetry of the garden.

Humanely as I possibly can, I will saw the base with a chainsaw, rough up the stump of the trunk and pour in stump poison which over the winter will kill the roots and shrink the whole thing making it easier to dig out in the spring.

The trees will be stripped of their smaller branches (eventually to be shredded) and the trunk sawn into small logs to be dried out for my wood burning stoves.

As I said. As humanely as I can. I will keep the chainsaw behind my back till the last possible moment.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 06:23 AM

Well, been away for a couple of days and thought I would check back to see what was going on. Sigh. Same old, same old. Poor ol' Conc. Only has the line about crayons and stole that off me. Like I said, not an original thought in his/her/it's head. Still, 3/10 for persistence though in the hope it will eventually be funny again.

I would give up is I were you Messiah M. Still, I suppose whatever gender it is you could get a blow job. But I reckon that could be quite dangerous. Especially if it gets it wrong or if ake is about...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket blowing off
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 06:44 AM

Where there's life there's hope eh?

The only blow job today sadly is on the path leading from the orchard, got one of the those blowers to keep slippery leaves off the path. It was a pressie from my brother and today will be the first chance I get to play with it.

Humanely of course.

After murdering the trees.

And washing the car.

And enquiring of the health of my sweetikins xxxxxx

(Here, have you noticed how we never see conc and Jerk the Sea Cadet posting on the same day? Oh dear.... No.. Conc says nice things about me. Jerk would throw the PC out of the window first.)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 06:48 AM

When I worked for Radcliffe Parks Dept. in 1969, one day the parks superintendent showed up with two young cherry trees, took us into the churchyard of the parish church and showed us where he wanted 'em planted. We duly removed two neat circles of turf, dug the holes out, loosened the subsoil, enriched the soil, planted and staked the trees and backfilled carefully. Lovely job done. That afternoon the super came round again, stood back looking at our handiwork, stroking his chin and frowning, and said "They're not quite right. Just dig them up and plant them again eighteen inches to the left, would you."

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stu
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 07:54 AM

"what you do seem to understand, is that if you grant the greater and more distinct properties of humanity, it might lead to implications of his being made in Gods image."

I certainly don't think that at all, and I don't recognise the "greater and more distinct properties of humanity" as being exclusive to humans; it's a conceit borne of arrogance and misunderstanding. As for being made in god's image, it can never happen as there is no god, nor evidence for one, and as for Adam being a conservationist, I'll leave the theological claptrap to you Pete, it really has zero relevance as once more, it is a fairytale.


"and on what basis do you ascertain and pronounce something as evil?
...on your own subjective morality, I presume."

All our moralities are subjective, it's how we arrive at them and practice them that is the issue. In my case, my morality is built on a profound respect for all life, because we are made of star stuff and we are the universe made conscious. All life is interconnected, all life is precious and we are part of something far bigger than ourselves, a fact which expresses itself as religion in some cases, albeit with a load of todge about walking on water and fish butties thrown in by desert storytellers. My morality is based on solid science, and I don't subscribe to dogma or superstition.

The idea man has dominion over the natural world has led us to the appalling state of affairs we are in now. Two thousand years of seepage from the Abrahamic religions into the collective cultural consciousness has given this nasty and profoundly ignorant meme huge weight, with the consequence we are trashing the planet at a greater rate with each passing year. From anthropogenic climate change to the last, gasping, bloody breath of the now poached-to-extinction Western Black Rhino and fuck knows how many atrocities on a daily basis, the idea that the natural world is our to exploit whatever the cost is one of the most backward, hateful and evil concepts ever. End of.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 10:07 AM

Was your last post supposed to mean something shaw..planting trees in the wrong place?..its hardly earth shattering news is it?and if you don't mind me saying, a tad of thread creep wouldn't you say, phony?


just a small question, when you was putting the circles of turf back did he keep shouting "green side up!!!"..

I am surprised that you have had a job as highly skilled as digging holes and filling them in again.. a bit of a move up from stacking shelves aint it?.. or was it lamppost counting..oh sorry about that..it would have meant you learning to count..

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket getting frisky
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 10:47 AM

Guess what! I have been pm'd and told that on 7 October, conc AND Jerk the Sea Cadet posted on this thread.

Hope for me yet eh?

Ye of little faith, my fellow associated gnome.....

Cooee!!   xxx

Mind you, not tonight. The old sciatica playing up after an afternoon in the garden. Still.. Better than the mass funeral yesterday.

(Lost all my tropical fish... A chemical reaction that can take off if you have too many snails, and the assassin snails weren't doing their job. A bit cut up about it to be honest. Over two dozen fish. Had to bleach the tank and filter apparatus, rinse thoroughly and dry it all... I have packed it all away for a few years now. Since April I no longer work from home so not spending all day with them in the study. The corner where the tank and stand were now has a couple of guitars on stands .)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 11:44 AM

Ye of little faith, my fellow associated gnome.....


Eeeeeh, Messiah M, glad you noticed. Little..., Gnome..., - Just pointing it out for your girlfriend woi I guess would not have understood otherwise.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 12:21 PM

just a small question, when you was putting the circles of turf back did he keep shouting "green side up!!!"..

Green side up my arse, twatess. Do you honestly think we put the turf back right up to the trees? City girl, I take it?

However, let me enlarge (as the vicar said to the duchess). To me, as well as to the late, great John Seymour, turf is manure. These days I would break up the turf and incorporate it into the mix that goes into the planting hole, ensuring that the grass is sufficiently buried to prevent regrowth. And, if Eric Robson's listening, no I'm not free to join the panel as I go to both Mass and Benediction on Sundays before rushing home to catch Songs Of Praise.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 05:07 PM

shaw you really are a stupid twat!! You have really legged your stupid self up with your own cleverness, knobead "we duly removed two neat circles of turf"? No good trying to justify your pseudo agricultural skills with saying "these days I would have done Blah Blah rotten blah" you fraud.Your crassness is here in black and white for all to see!!

Listen you self righteous prig, it has always been the accepted way of putting things back in the ground, either re- planting, digging ash pits,graves,relaying lawns, cricket pitches, latrines when camping or any way of disturbing TURF is to put it back without any sign of intrusion..that is why we have tools such as TURF cutters? as I have said before you are well under qualified for digging holes and filling them back in again.

What next? YES here we go again, clinker choked crayons lined up for the rusty sheriffs badge/tattered rosette/fresh bullet wound/Japanese flag..take deep breath and here we go..it will only hurt for a little while!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 05:27 PM

Oh.....I forgot to add..brace yourself!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 05:32 PM

......again..

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 06:47 PM

Pseudo-agricultural my arse! The matter I was referring to was, as 100% of the world's population except you realise, purely hortifriggincultural. I've planted many a tree, my fiend, and not one has succumbed to any issue relating to my technique. Au contraire, mon tosseress: the world is awash with my plantings. Why, ten years ago I raised and sold over 300 palms from seed and they now adorn Bude to the exclusion of almost everything else taller than six feet. If only you could eat the bastards.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 07:02 PM

And by the way, sugartitties, I don't know how many friggin' trees you've ever planted (if any, they're definitely all dead, that's for sure), but you do not replace turf with no sign of disturbance around the base of a newly-planted tree unless you wish it to die (maybe you've only ever planted Leylandii, you antisocial bleeder). If I were you I should stick to what you're good at, which is probably very little unless it's ramming bundled ginger-flavoured crayons up whatever unwashed, chocolate-smothered, fish-scented orifices according to your gender you happen to possess (bumholes excluded, as we all have those - two in your case I should think, though I doubt you could distinguish them from the holes in your Polos).

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 04:10 AM

This conversation has become rather unedifying - you "bum inhabiting ginger cakes" you!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket mourning
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 04:27 AM

Aye, and nobody gives a flying about my tropical fish....

Bye Fred, Albert, Isembard, Ethel, Spunky, Flo, Dangerous Don, twinkly, Ugly catfish, the other slightly less ugly plecostomus, Brian the snail (x a few friggin' million....) Dora, Pinky, Perky, hotlips,   And all the ones I never got around to naming, especially the tetras. Nobody cares about tetras.

Fluval Edge fish tank (the large size) for sale, c/w lots of accessories.   

Sniff.....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 04:32 AM

They have gone to a better place. Unless you are a Christian in which case they don't let animals in heaven.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 07:03 AM

Lot of anger in your posts there shaw me little manneen..Are you sure you weren'tGrowin bullied at school?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 07:14 AM

1000!