BS: Conservative Leadership Contest

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Jos
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 04:59 AM

All I hear, at least on BBC radio, from Javid is complaints that he was not invited to the Trump banquet.

If I was organising a banquet for someone and knew that that person and one of the possible guests had been exchanging insults in public - guess who wouldn't be invited.

But perhaps Javid is annoyed because he was denied the chance of boycotting the event.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 04:58 AM

Just a reminder of BoJo's views on people becoming PM without being elected

Boris Johnson blasted leaders becoming PM without election


I hope he meant it when he said he was asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 03:29 AM

I can't see that Javid's dreadful decision to strip Shamima Begum of her citizenship is exactly going to help him to win "Asian votes," Dick.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 03:10 AM

What's that Skipy? Corbyn has fallen down a well?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 01:56 AM

Skippy for PM!

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 01:55 AM

Not really sure what you expect The Daily Mail to say - Corbyn is a super guy - its not going to happen, is it?

Anyway, what's it got to do with tory party leadership?

The Mail would support a kangaroo as PM, if it were tory.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Jun 19 - 12:44 AM

the dark horse is Javid, just the person they might want to win asian votesand strike free trad deals with the middle east, not as accident prone as boris and a nasty bit of work imo

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 10:45 PM

Last time Parliament was prorogued in this kind of manoeuvre was back in Charles I's time. And that didn't end too well, for the country or for Charles...

Can't be done without the Queen's consent, and that would put her right in the middle of a political firefight. It would set off a process that would very probably ultimately mean the end of the monarchy - as it did last time. I reckon she'd insist it couldn't be done without the agreement of the Privy Council and probably the Speakers of both the Commons and Lords.

Rory Stewart is by a long long way the best candidate to be Prime Minister, which is why he hasn't a hope of winning.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 05:05 PM

Perhaps when you guys stop bickering you may return to the subject matter of the thread.

The latest "whisper" is that his "rivals" are discussing an alliance to ensure his defeat in the leadership contest.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 04:28 PM

“...Simply to stir up trouble...”

Thus spake the biggest trouble-maker on the forum - the real one the Mods should be dealing with. Everyone knows you by your constant bad behaviour on the forum, you’re fooling no-one, the only person you are fooling by your protestations of innocence is yourself.

Thou dost protest too loud, methinks.

And what have ‘the former muskets’ got to do with anything?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 04:27 PM

Tories in disarray

Oh look. Corbyn the terrorist

Brexit is a shambles

Oh look. Corbyn the antisemite.

Social care is going down the pan

Oh look. Corbyn the security threat

For heaven's sake. How long do the right wing press and their rabid readers think this can go on?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 04:17 PM

And Steve, you’re doing it again! He’s not satisfied with trying to provoke Jim into a row on a 13 year-old zombie-thread about MacColl (and succeeding) - for gawd’s sake don’t fall for his school-playground games here too.
I can only assume from the timing that the post is aimed at me.

You are making totally unfounded allegations without any scrap of proof.

Why on earth would I post as a guest, I have no need to hide my identity? Unlike the former muskets.
Why are you dragging your false assumptions from one thread simply to stir up trouble on another?

Can the moderators please deal with this.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 03:07 PM

”Your lot let their imaginations run away with them
when it comes to falsely accusing and demonising lefty politicians...”

Of course they do pfr - it’s all they’ve got.

And Steve, you’re doing it again! He’s not satisfied with trying to provoke Jim into a row on a 13 year-old zombie-thread about MacColl (and succeeding) - for gawd’s sake don’t fall for his school-playground games here too.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 02:41 PM

"By a white supremacist, a person just one step away from Staines and Farage, and no steps away from "Tommy Robinson." Heroes to some around here."

You are either betraying your own gross ignorance or abject stupidity by making such a deeply offensive remark. Care to clarify which?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 02:25 PM

By a white supremacist, a person just one step away from Staines and Farage, and no steps away from "Tommy Robinson." Heroes to some around here.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 02:10 PM

Your lot let their imaginations run away with them
when it comes to falsely accusing and demonising lefty politicians...

Back when Wilson was PM the story was that Tories were planning a coup.
NYT "There is clear evidence that, with varying degrees of seriousness, there were at least two plots against the Labour Party leader Harold Wilson during his two terms as prime minister (from 1964 to 1970, and from 1974 to 1976). In 1968, the press baron Cecil King proposed a coup to replace Wilson’s elected government with a regime headed by Lord Mountbatten, a war hero and second cousin to the queen.

There is a lunatic fringe in any society and probably exist in all political parties. That is why allowing Jo Brand speaking on Radio 4 about hurling acid at politicians without any censure is totally wrong.
It is also wrong that the police have taken no action. Some have short memories.
On 16 June 2016, Jo Cox, the British Labour Party Member of Parliament for Batley and Spen, died after being shot and stabbed multiple times in Birstall, West Yorkshire.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:52 PM

Yeah - Stewart looks like an interesting and sincere bloke...
A man with genuine substance perhaps..???

Unlike that clump of arse fluff Boris...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:45 PM

I meant Rory Stewart.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:44 PM

He comes the closest I've seen for a long time to being that phenomenon that's as rare as rocking horse shit, a decent Tory.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:38 PM

Iains - Corbyn may not have a spotless political back history,
but somehow I can't quite see him storming a conservative social club Bridge evening
with an AK-47 and a bomb belt...???

Your lot let their imaginations run away with them
when it comes to falsely accusing and demonising lefty politicians...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:28 PM

RS - he looks a bit the middle one of the BeeGees.

Its a bit like, who's got the ugliest dog competition.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:12 PM

I spoke to a couple of Tory members today. One liked Boris because he had the charisma and face recognition to beat Farage and Corbyn. The other didn't like that Rory Stewart 'looked too odd to be a leader.'

Neither mentioned whether they thought they would be any good at running the country.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 01:05 PM

but amongst them are people who should definitely be on a security services watch list...

Like Corbyn then!
"UNSAFE LEADER? Ex-MI6 boss thinks Jeremy Corbyn could be a security risk as PM due to past ‘terrorist ties’

The Labour leader has associations with militant Islamist groups Hezbollah and Hamas and took part in Irish Republican events while IRA terrorists were active"

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 12:54 PM

Iains - where...???

Internet social media, where I spend too much time 'having a laugh' with the looniest brexiteers..
Some dangerouly unhinged, many with military training, ex coppers, etc...

Obviously a lot of it is fantasy banter,
but amongst them are people who should definitely be on a security services watch list...

We've already had one feminist labour MP assassinated... just saying...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 12:40 PM

Where on earth do you get that bizarre idea from? A majority democratic vote decided to leave the EU. Certain members of Parliament have decided to frustrate that process, exemplified most recently by 10 tory mps defying the whip and voting with the opposition. We made a decision to leave the EU not to sign up to Brino or a revocation of article 50. If proroguing Parliament is required to frustrate the partisan speaker, certain labour MPs and quisling tories then so be it.
Her Majesties government is the legal entity to rule, not an upstart rabble.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 12:17 PM

Iains - you'd probably also accept a coup d'etat to get yer own way...???

A lot of rabid brexiteers are quite keen on an armed revolution - fact...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 12:00 PM

Early days yet,but I do admire Boris and his threat to prorogue Parliament.
With an impartial speaker such an extreme step would probably    not arise. No deal has to be kept as a bargaining position otherwise we might as well roll over and accept vassalage. Career politicians have no business sense.

Subject: BS: Conservative Leadership Contest
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 10:34 AM

Well three of the ten candidates have been eliminated and Johnson has a resounding lead at the first ballot.

I cannot help but be cynical and suggest that as the Tory leader to take us out of the EU, he and he alone, will be held responsible when all the **** hits the fan in future years.

In other words he is dispensable to the Tory party, a sacrificial lamb.

The rest of them will claim they had nothing to do with any of it.