BS: Conservative Leadership Contest

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 07:27 AM

I quite liked that one though, BWM. The majority need not be heeded bollocks are spoken. I wonder what else it can be applied to? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 07:24 AM

You first...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 07:22 AM

Not when talking bollocks. Time the kiddies grew up.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:57 AM

Google search results

"Cock a snoot" = About 3,930 results (0.41 seconds)

"Cock a snook" = About 674,000 results (0.41 seconds)

Isn't it someone on here that says that the majority should be heeded?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 05:53 AM

http://www.sherv.net/cock.snoot-emoticon-2869.html

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 05:14 AM

Funny how every source listed on Google has it as cock a snook apart from the idiots free dictionary. Mind you that one also spells idiots as idioms...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 04:35 AM

Yet another fine example of remainiacs attacking the messenger because the argument cannot be refuted.
Good to see the Question time audience have a good laugh when a former Labour Advisor said they had more positions on Brexit than the Kama Sutra (I guess she must have read my contribution to Guido some weeks back)
I would have thought there would be some comment on how resoundingly unpopular Corbyn is,
or the cavalier approach Labour takes to allegations of anti semitism.
or the lack of a coherant brexit policy.

One cannot even be sure if they support brexit or remain.

What sort of opposition party is that?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 04:33 AM

Yaa-a-a-awn...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 04:14 AM

To attempt to be a pedant one needs to learn how to use a dictionary and study the etymology of words and expressions.viz.

Snoot - Idioms by The Free Dictionary
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/snoot

cock a snoot. To regard someone or something with disrespect.

In a written sense the snoot is cocked by using language that is too subtle for the pretensious literati to understand leaving the boor in confusion and those in the know to smile quietly to themselves knowing that something unpleasant has been identified and neutralised. Again this must be done in the presence of the pretentious or there is no point in being subtle.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:48 PM

Note: "cock" may be code for "coke"...

Though it could be taken literally...

..and some tories would definitely snort coke off a cock - but that's Eton education for you...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:45 PM

Tories would snort a cock...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:31 PM

Cocks a snoot?

FFS, it’s ‘cocks a snook! I knew Nigs won’t want to nitpick his crony, so I thought I’d help him out.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:11 PM

While some among us still have a fixation on Bennie from crossroads,
here is a ben page from ipsosmori
Ben Page, Ipsos MORIVerified account
@benatipsosmori

Chief Exec at Ipsos MORI, Visiting Professor at Kings College London https://www.ipsos-mori.com . Trustee at @centreforlondon and @Ageing_Better
London, England
Here's the worst rating for every Leader of the Opposition since 1978 - new record broken this week.
Corbyn in JUne2019 had a net satisfaction rating of -58%, exceeding Foot in 1982 on -56%
This bit of news runs in tandem with Over 60 Labour MPs and 30 peers including deputy leader Tom Watson have issued a statement calling for Jeremy Corbyn to remove the whip from Chris Williamson “immediately”. Despite a highly irregular Labour NEC panel overturning his suspension as a member of the Labour Party, it is still up to Corbyn whether he retains the Labour whip in Parliament.
Seeing as the EHCR is undertaking a formal investigation into antisemitism allegations within the Labour party the irregular reinstatement of Mr Williamson rather cocks a snoot at the investigation and makes it appear an irrelevance.
This is hardly the behaviour expected of Her Majesties loyal Opposition party.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:38 PM

Is like asking someone if they want typhoid or cholera.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 01:56 PM

I had to keep telling the mrs..

"yes.. but remember.. rory is still a tory..."...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: peteglasgow
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 01:50 PM

i wouldn't. one of the most maddening aspects of all this nonsense is that a decades-old squabble between tory eejits has developed to involve all of us who want nothing to do with their squalid, little-englander bigotry. i found myself wanting rory stewart to do well- and he's a tory ffs!

we don't have to choose between them, they are all evil.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 08:15 AM

I've just thought of something that BoJo the clown is good at. He is probably the only person in the country who can make people want to vote for Hunt...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:51 AM

Only if you take the Labour darkside and act like Bennies.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:47 AM

It's a bit sad that a topic as serious as who will lead the UK into disaster takes the wrong turn at the Crossroads...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: peteglasgow
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 07:04 PM

that's so unfair....though miss diane may have been at risk

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:59 PM

Yeah,.. that Benny looked like he might have hidden a few women's bodies in hedgerows...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:56 PM

Jack the Ripper...not really.

Benny from Crossroads maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 04:16 PM

It's late, dark, dank smog, and feeble gaslight..

can anyone else imagine Boris as Jack the Ripper or Jekyll and Mr Hyde...???

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 04:15 PM

Santaish or no, I agree with Jeremy Corbyn's criticisms of capitalism and championing of renationalisation BUT not his support, as with many on the Left, for economic/CAPITALIST immigration; and, for what it is worth, I have thought this way for many years now - "On the 2001 Election"

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 03:38 PM

.. or get sold to white slavers and secretly transported to the far distant mysterious orient...??

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 03:32 PM

Back in the olden days boris is so fond of,
didn't difficult women who might prove an embarrassment to a gentleman's social standing,
get locked up in remote asylums...???

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 03:22 PM

In pieces under the floorboards? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: peteglasgow
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 02:57 PM

obviously, bj has always been a dodgy character but the last few days have been totally bizarre. really, is he well? and where is his partner?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 01:22 PM

Mass hysteria.. tories are seeing demons everywhere...

This is the 21st century, medical science has advanced since the middle ages..
It is safer now to seek treatment for your cronic fears that other people are devils...


..Though, it's not unproven Corbyn might actually be Santa...???

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 01:12 PM

Ed Sheeran knows how a capo works on a guitar... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 11:54 AM

Nick Ferrari even asked him if it was Ed Sheeran... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: peteglasgow
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 11:44 AM

it seems odd and worrying to me that BJ's partner has not been seen or heard of at all since friday night. i'm sure hers would be the more interesting, more truthful, story. surely, if all is well then they should be seen out and about and have a brief, jokey exchange with some journalists. the odd picture is clearly a fake - is it even BJ? looks like a pub beer garden at the back of a closed down pub.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 11:12 AM

Yes, it's a given boris is an unreliable dishonest tosser with low integrity,
but could hunt actually turn out to be the worst option as PM...???

Is hunt a relatively ok bloke for a tory,
or a proper mean spirited ruthless uncaring bastard...???

Such questions about his character seem to have got lost
in our gratuitious though justifiable enjoyment at taking the piss out of mop-top muppet..

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 09:56 AM

Absolutely right Steve, its last year or earlier. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the year before when he was still nominally with Marina. Possibly its a photo he was offered at the time, and bought it out to stop it getting into the public domain.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 09:48 AM

So *that* photo. God, I'm enjoying this. The Mail sez it was taken on Sunday and it was in the rag on Monday. Well whaddya know. Nick Ferrari in the LBC interview earlier today pointed out that Boris's hair couldn't have been like that on Sunday (he's been relatively tidy lately) and that the photo was weeks old. Maybe six weeks. Well I think it's even older than that. A few weeks ago, say in mid- to late May, the grasses round their picnic table would have been nothing like as rank as they are in that photo, and there's not a scrap of blossom in the hedges around. I reckon that's a late summer pic from last year. Boris utterly refused to confirm when the photo was taken, who by, and how it got into the papers so quickly, but, in spite of his claim that he doesn't want his "loved ones" in the public eye he clearly wasn't at all bothered He had no reason on earth to not answer those questions. He was very shifty about his hair too. We are about to see one of the most dishonest and disreputable people in our politics taking the top job, aren't we? And oh yes, we knew that already!

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 09:41 AM

Labour's main task after getting back in to power would be to rejoin the EU, and do it properly this time. Schengen, the Euro, the lot, though its a bit late to join the Euro as the buy in rate will be much worse than if we had joined at the start.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Raggytash
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 08:43 AM

"who smuggles in contraband and accepts bribes for turning a blind eye to escape attempts...???"

Hmmm ................ whom might be the corrupt one!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 08:43 AM

Following that hopefully Labour can return to power and start to rebuild the crippled economy, NHS, trust etc etc.

NO CHANCE!!


Not wanting to be left out as Theresa May succeeded in hobbling the UK economy yesterday with a trillion pound hit without MPs even voting on it, John McDonnell doubled down with an even more aggressive green assault on business last night. McDonnell told an incredulous City audience last night about his plans for legislation to de-list any company from the London Stock Exchange that failed to meet his environmental criteria. It’s hard to overstate just how insane this plan is…

One City financier branded it “financial totalitarianism” and said it would be a “catastrophe” for Britain’s economy if it was ever carried out. May’s desperate attempt to carve out some sort of meagre legacy for herself has started a bidding war with Labour over who can inflict more damage on the economy in the name of the “environment” which Corbyn and McDonnell are only too happy to go along with.

Mad as hatters!

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 08:33 AM

The only immediate concern is will we be worse off under boris or hunt...

If this was a WW2 prisoner of war camp,
which one them would be the ruthless cruel SS Kommandant,
and which one the softer hearted corporal guarding the huts
who smuggles in contraband and accepts bribes for turning a blind eye to escape attempts...???

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Raggytash
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 07:02 AM

I'm not sure I want Labour to win the next General Election if we have left the EU by then.

In the next few years the country will get to hell in that handcart. I would like the Conservatives to be in power throughout that period and the blame will, rightly, be apportioned to them.

Following that hopefully Labour can return to power and start to rebuild the crippled economy, NHS, trust etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:55 AM

Sigh... I doubt if we'd even notice much difference if Labour ever get back in..

..except it wouldn't get as much worse for us as anticipated under a continued tory government...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:38 AM

I think you need to be realistic.... weare talking about leadership of the tory party. They never were going to choose someone most of us would approve of to be leader.

You may not like the fact that millions of people vote for the buggers - but that's the way it is.

I doubt we'll notice the difference whichever one of these guys they choose.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:30 AM

On the presumption most care home owners are tories,
what checks are in place on their control of all resident's postal votes...???

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 06:27 AM

Which party would have the higher percentage of voters with dementia,
who are so confused they could not be relied on to put their cross in the right box at elections...???

This factor may have even more ramifications by the time of the next general election...

It all adds to the unpredicatability of election results...

I'll definitely get my mum a postal vote if [fingers crossed] she's still around...

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Raggytash
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 05:59 AM

Hmm ..........

According to the Democratic Audit UK report conservative members have less influence on policy than other political party.

http://www.democraticaudit.com/2013/10/02/the-influence-of-party-members-on-policy-varies-across-the-major-parties/

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 05:57 AM

You may remember I posted several months ago that I was seriously considering joining so I could influence the vote. But when I did the research and found I would be limited to a choice of two, neither of whom I suspected I would think suitable, I decided against.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 05:53 AM

I believe you need membership to be held for a period before having voting rights.
Three months, according to This page, so too late now to join for the current vote. But possibly in time to affect future elections, and who is selected locally.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Iains
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 05:37 AM

If you do not like it you could always join the conservative party. But I believe you need membership to be held for a period before having voting rights.

What does your party rely on to make decisions, Unite and Unison?
The national policy forum only has 204 members. How representative is that?

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 04:43 AM

Tory membership: 70% are men, 97% white, 60% southern, 86% higher social classes, average age 57, a high proportion no longer in work. Six out of 10 want the death penalty back.

That's who's choosing the prime minister who is supposed to take us through a process that will ruin the country. Ruin it except for most of them.

Subject: RE: BS: Conservative LeadershipContest
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 04:23 AM

We'll just forget Brexit - we can't get it through parliament. so thats the end of it.

Well think what would you do if confronted with a dilemma?

I and most people would look to the consequences of doing nothing and what unknowns were going to floor us if we "do".

And in the context of Brexshit doing nothing would cost us what it costs us now, any change will cost in ways we haven't winkled out yet.

The PM hopefuls just want the job, the solutions to the mess will be tried and changed on the hoof. And that hoof will kick us, not the well heeled (sic) who want the job. And at least one of the remaining (ha) candidates has a history of being a turncoat!