BS: KISS keep it simple

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 03:11 PM

Absolute rubbish, as ever.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 03:11 PM

We are quibbling about distances as small as a cm.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 02:45 PM

You have repeated what I have said except you can not admit the free floating stage.

If you did a search they go so far as to say the vesicle free floats in the abdominal cavity.

The electric current comment however is part of the similarity of a larger universe thought.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 01:51 PM

"Where do the gooseberry bushes come into all this?"

Thats where the Storks nest !!

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 01:28 PM

Where do the gooseberry bushes come into all this?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 10:11 AM

There is no "free-floating." The fimbriae, finger-like processes at the ovary end of the fallopian tube, sweep over the ovary as the follicle breaks open and set up a current that directs the oocyte into the fallopian tube. Then peristaltic activity of the smooth muscle in the wall of the tube moves the oocyte in the direction of the uterus. This takes several days and fertilisation, if it happens, takes place in the fallopian tube. The wall of the tube does contain cilia but they perform a secondary role only in moving the egg and have been shown to be non-essential.

There's nothing like checking your facts before posting. Have I said that before, I ask myself?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 09:41 AM

What I am getting at is the virtual poetic similarity of our beginnings to the grand structures of the universe itself.
One need not call it pan psychism but there is more than meets the materialistic eye.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 08:32 AM

Once fertilized, the egg becomes impervious to all sperm. The late coming sperm set up that spinning motion.

Once captured by the fallopian structure the free-floating stage of the follicle is over.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 03:37 AM

Then it isn't "free floating," is it?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 05:44 PM

Once again 'I' post right after 5 AM many mornings.
I'm not good with names Stephano.

A fertilized ovum travels in the fallopian tube it spins like a spiral galaxy while propelled by special cilia.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 09:52 AM

And in the interests of accuracy, a concept alien to you, my first name is Stephen, as I've pointed out several times before. Get my name wrong again and I'll call you Donuel Duck for ever more. That would be quite appropriate in any case, you quackpot.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 09:49 AM

Just think before you post. I don't post at 5 am either. Depending on where you are, we are at least five hours ahead of you, you clown.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 09:27 AM

Our journey through space begins when our egg is inside a follicle-like spaceship and is released from the ovary to 'free float' to the fallopian tube which is not directly connected to the ovary.
The fallopian tube does get chemical signals to go closer to the ovary but there is that free-floating mysterious journey before the fallopian journey and fertlization begins. Perhaps there is that gap so sperm can not reach immature eggs at the ovary.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 06:47 AM

I would rather learn more new things about Beethoven from Steven but he is obsessed instead with trolling me. Wierd.

Subject: RE: BS: Steve is in love
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 06:36 AM

Left a good job back in the eighties
Workin' for myself every night and day
And I never lost one minute of sleepin'
I was worryin' 'bout the way that things might've been
Big wheels keep on turnin'
Ooh, your keyboard keep on burnin'
And you're trollin' (trollin'), trollin', yeah (trollin')
trollin' on the puter (trollin' on your puter)
Cleaned a lot of plates in Memphis
And I pumped a lot of 'tane up in New York State
But I never saw the good side of the city
Until I hitched a ride on the mental health bus
You know the wheels keep on turnin'
Proud people keep on burnin'
And he's trollin' (trollin'), trollin', yeah (trollin')
Trollin' on the puter (trollin' on the puter)
Say he's trollin' (trollin'), all the way from UK.
Trollin' on his puter (trollin' on his puter)

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 06:22 AM

Its probably just avoiding the sun for decades so I look 55 but feel 72. I have never had very much melanin.
I do not post at 5 AM most days to deliberately bring Mudcat into disrepute as claimed. It seems Steve posts about me more than any possible subject.!? However, it might be nferaious of me to give him smoothing to tlak about.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 09:29 PM

I think you could be quite an old man.

From what I can work out, Donuel seems to be around a year younger than me so - not old. Not old at all!

DC

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 07:24 PM

You are only a frantic trans-Atlantic semantic pedantic
who spent too much time in a child's mindset.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 06:08 PM

Your nature is half-arsed, half-truth (or less), uninformed utter bullshit. I've told you before. Check your facts before you post. It's what the rest of us do and it's what you never do, and by so not doing you bring the forum into disrepute. I think you could be quite an old man. But that's no bloody excuse.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 05:53 PM

Your 2-dimensional pedantic Reality is not mine.
I will not abandon my euphemisms or allegories be they broad brush or not. True communication does not require being cruel. My nature is kind for the most part.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 05:06 PM

You don't live in the real world, pal.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 02:34 PM

I admit I do not live the lifestyle of an 18th-century Native American.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 12:14 PM

"I am as materialistic as many of you so I am part of the problem, but I can be enlightened at the same time and speak idealistically"

Translation: Do as I say but not as I do.

Sounds like the very definition of hypocrisy.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 11:30 AM

I am as materialistic as many of you so I am part of the problem, but I can be enlightened at the same time and speak idealistically.
In America, the media crown jewels of materialism are game shows like Lets Make a Deal and The Price is Right. People display how crazy they are for stuff, Yes materialism is fun but at the cost of getting ZONKED.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 11:14 AM

Materialist technocrats and AI advocates believe that we can master Nature. Domed cities etc.
Your fever idea is not an isolated thought although global warming is self-induced THIS TIME.
I think nature will have the last word because it can use time in such a way that we and our sentience can not. A do-over mass extinction is not unheard of.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 10:50 AM

Jeeze that is a profound question finally.

It is not just the tree that is sentient but the ecosystem. For example, the roots of the tree symbiotically communicate via fungal mycelium underground and air-born chemicals with other trees and insects.

Joe and I agree on less than Steve and me BUT we do share an agreement on features of Gaia. Gaia is a simple form of pan-psychism.

The sentience of living systems is by far greater than inanimate matter but it too may have very basic 'urges' we can not know.

On a personal level I understand some of the vocalizations of cats, crows and many other animals but sound is only one part of the spectrum of communication.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stanron
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 09:28 AM

Sentience is a funny thing. We assess sentience through communication. If we can't have or observe communication we assume no sentience. Could this be wrong?

A tree with a lifespan of hundreds of years might communicate at a far different rate and in a far different manner than us. A tree might be sentient and we are just too dumb to notice.

And if a tree could be sentient, what about the planet? What about the universe. If the planet is an aware being, are we like fleas or lice on us? Or perhaps more like bacteria or a virus. Maybe the planet is heating up like us having a fever to rid of an irritant.

Just a different take on global warming.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 05:56 AM

Since 1980 half of the Arctic ice has melted. The deep blue exposed sea captures heat melting more ice faster. Satellite measurements underestimated ice thickness.
The jet stream now brings a winter polar vortex south bringing extremes to us year-round.

These are examples of what happens when we go beyond a tipping point.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Sep 23 - 04:38 AM

Methane is a terrible greenhouse gas when leaked into the atmosphere but when it is burnt it is much cleaner that many other fuels. Maybe we should be looking at capturing and using the Arctic reserves?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 23 - 03:34 PM

Our computer models often have incomplete information.
Its bad news for global warming and methane. Methane is thirty times more dynamic than carbon dioxide when it comes to climate change.
We make half the methane release and the rest is from thawing permafrost. The thawing is rapidly increasing.

There is one point 3 trillion tons of methane trapped beneath the Arctic. It is less trapped every day. Some of the melting is irreversible.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Sep 23 - 08:00 AM

Several years ago I saw an unbelievable video of something I never expected to see. A pickup truck was being chased down a road by a band of tall trees going 30 mph. It was video of a California mudslide.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Sep 23 - 07:56 AM

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 06:26 PM

https://rochestermusic.org/inductees/class-of-2017/uncle-roger-mccall/

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 06:21 PM

Amos admired links most but my personal experiences while true may be outside the possibility of most people. What has been my normal reality would seem impossible to others.
My friend Roger McCall one evening was seated next to his future wife Debbie and I was across from them both, Suddenly he was struck with a look of abject terror and shock. He was beyond speech and despite pleadings from Debbie "What's wrong??" Roger's mouth was gaping wider than I have ever seen while he stared at his own solar plexus as his hands spasmodically grasped air. The entire episode lasted nearly a minute and caused a full panic among us all. I can never forget the agonizing shape of his face and mouth I had never seen in anyone before.
When he recovered from this strange seizure he could not answer what had just happened. Ten years later I learned that he had been shot and killed from a close-range shotgun blast to his solar plexus while collecting rents.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 03:38 PM

Donuel's latest (of many) unattributed copy and paste is from futurism.com. Just in case you'd suddenly thought that he'd turned literate. Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 12:39 PM

Just heard (on More Or Less, on Radio 4): The Grauniad lived down to its reputation the other day, du grosse. In an article about the Sun, they said it consists of about 1057 atoms; the number should have been 10⁵⁷, which is 54 orders of magnitude larger. Moral: Make things (in this case, formatting) as simple as possible, *but no simpler*.

PS: If this is deemed to be better suited for the Jokes thread, please move it.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 05:47 AM

> Is this thread about science or politics?

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 05:28 AM

In China, a formalized social credit score can determine whether you're allowed to take out loans or even use public transit. The system is often held up as a particularly dystopian application of big data analytics — and now it seems as though a similar thing is happening in the U.S. and U.K.

It turns out that a number of companies are aggregating mind-boggling piles of financial records, internet activity, and other personal data, The New York Times reports — and using it to determine petty metrics like how long companies will make people wait on hold or whether we're allowed to make returns at a store.

Behind The Curtain
Some of these companies give people the opportunity to take a look at whatever records they have on them, like Sift, which had accumulated over 400 pages of notes on the NYT's Kashmir Hill, ranging from Airbnb reviews to delivery orders.

Technically anyone can request their records by emailing [e-mail] then filling out a form online. But the NYT noted that some companies, like consumer-tracking database Kustomer, refused to share data while repeatedly saying it would soon.

Secret Scores
These little-known companies aren't new, but they're only just getting attention for their unsettling data projects, which can have a major behind-the-scenes impact on people's lives. Law enforcement's use of data is secret and may determine a threat score that exposes innocent people to search and far more dangerous intrusions.

Even now, companies like Sift might share the piles of records they've accumulated on you — but won't tell you how other companies are using it.

READ MORE:

More on social credit: Report: America Has a Social Credit System Much Like China’s

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 05:25 AM

Is this thread about science or politics?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 06:18 PM

So what's with the trend of posting the same post to more than one thread?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 06:15 PM

It was painful to watch the mental decline of John McCain and now Mitch McConnel and Diane Feinstein. Biden only has remnants of his lifelong battle with stuttering. Early signs of constantly repeating one point can progress to a total freezing of interaction or a confusing cry for help. Abusive ramblings often follow. The victim may not recognize their own failings.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 07:36 AM

I believe in a democratization of knowledge and free thought.
There are those who attack culture, books, and thought.
It's happened before. Previous attempts
We should talk about, hope about and bring about freedom even if it is between 2 or 3 people.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 05:44 AM

Authoritarian wars in the USA think closing school libraries is the answer to what they call Wokeism. Libraries in Houston are now detention punishment centers.

An authoritarian takeover is an incremental process. People can judge for themselves who the enemy is.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 01:21 PM

Yes it matters. You constantly make assertions that need fact-checks first that you haven't carried out. This is not lying but it's exceptionally careless and untrustworthy behaviour. As for evil, deluded would be a better descriptor. The upshot is, for example, that while I haven't a clue as to how much DNA we share with cats or how many vertebrae they've got, you are the very last person I'd trust to give me the facts about it, or about anything else come to think of it.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 12:24 PM

What does "I don't reply to 1955 anymore" mean?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 12:02 PM

It doesn't matter. In your mind, I am always wrong, evil, or lying.
It also doesn't matter because I don't reply to 1955 anymore.

We have a segment of cat DNA in our genome that is hard to explain how it got there. However you may have thought that dogs would be a little closer to humans on the evolutionary scale, but it turns out that cats actually have 90.2% of the DNA in common with us!
Compared to us cats also have one more vertebra.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 10:33 AM

So, after a moment's thought, you realised that you were wrong about cats. Could I suggest that from now on you have a moment's thought BEFORE you post?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 10:13 AM

Dionne only played an alien in Men in Black
but Presidents have had sightings as well as these old guys

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 09:44 AM

Okay, so Kurt Russel (sic) saw it but I'm waiting until Dionne Warwick weighs in.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 09:12 AM

The Governor saw it, many thousands of people saw it, hell even Kurt Russel saw it. What made this sighting odd was that this UFO was in excess of a mile across. It slowly and silently moved over the entire State.

Media and Governmental denialism quickly came into play. It now reminds me of the Trump denialism and big lie fanaticism.