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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Fred (Beetle) Bailey
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 09:39 PM

Am I the only Mudcatter with a copy of "Count Palmiro Vicarion's Book of Bawdy Ballads"? It was printed in France (of course) in 1961 by The Olympia Press, 8 rue de Nesle, Paris 6 and smuggled into the bible-thumpers belt in the bottom of my brothers seabag after a North African (I think) tour of duty. (Can anyone imagine a more seminal gift for a barely adolescent guitar-banger?) The binding failed long ago and I may have lost a few pages but there's 65 listed in the table of contents -- only a few with a sparse melody score.

The Count's frontspiece:
"To those who have written, are writing, and who will write them, together with those who have the sensibility and courage to publish them, this collection is fondly dedicated. And may they drop dead who secretly read and publically burn them -- or else begin their real education."

It's an amazing collection of scatalogical and sexual humor that stands head and shoulders (so to speak) above the respected journeyman works of Mr. Silverman and Brand and others mentioned above.

Anyone know where I can get a fresh copy?

Failing that, I'll trade lyrics of any of the 65 for any others that I don't have -- or any such deal -- let's keep this Folk Heritage alive!

fred@fredbaileymusic.com


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: LadyJean
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 09:33 PM

When singing "Maids When You're Young", it's nice if you can pick out a man in the audience, who's a good sport, and sing to him. Then, at the end when you sing about the handsome young man, find some sweet old grandpa, and sing the last chorus to him. Well, maybe nice isn't the word.

My sweet old mother used to sing the following:

My girl's from Holyoke, she doesn't drink or smoke
She knows a dirty joke, and I do too.
And in my future life, she's going to be my wife,
How in the heck did I find that out? She told me so.

My girl's from Vassar, none can surpass her,
She is the stroke on the Varsity team.
and in my etc.

My girl's from Wheaton, she can't be beaten.
She's great out on a date, she takes her liquor straight.

My girl's from Smith she talks like thith
She taught me to kith. I love her tho.

Mom spent two years at Wheaton. She did indeed like her bourbon straight.

I think there are verses for other colleges. But I don't know them.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Joe_F
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 07:13 PM

Balls to Mr Banglestein, Banglestein, Banglestein.
Balls to Mr Banglestein, dirty old man.
For he keeps us waiting
While he's masturbating,
So balls to Mr Banglestein, dirty old man.

To the tune of "Ach, du lieber Augustin". This is a song in the "Why Are We Waiting?" tradition, sung by a group who have assembled but cannot proceed until the person named shows up.

At St Andrews University (Scotland) in 1959, it also formed part of the elaborate chorus (partly sung, partly shouted) of a version of "There Was a Monk of Great Renown".


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Subject: RE: Lyr bawdy ballads
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 07:48 PM

Searching for the lyrics for the following bawdy ballads:-
Balls To Mister Banglestein
What Shall We Do With A Drunken Sailor ( parody )
The Orgy At Billy Miller's Ranch

Trying to locate the above - to learn. Can anyone help. Thank you


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:49 PM

I took the lyrics straight off the CD "Streetwalkers' Blues" on the Jass label.

It's just whorehouse fair. Some prostitutes sang and performed to entice men. I'm sure versions go back to god knows when.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:13 PM

Lyr. Add: SHAVE 'EM DRY
Lyrics previously posted by AR282 in thread 44626, 24 Feb 02.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:09 PM

A book that has some rather out-of-the-way things in it, as well as many of the old standards, is _The Dirty Song Book_ by Jerry Silverman (Stein and Day, 1982).

Oscar Brand collected the songs in his LP series _Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads_ in a book of the same name (Dorchester Press, 1960). Inevitably in view of the date, they are somewhat bowdlerized, but it should not be hard to guess, e.g., what belongs in place of "hips" in "No hips at all".

I dare say both these are out of print, but copies must still be floating around.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:02 PM

Lucille Bogan ("Bessie Jackson") recorded the song in 1935, but it first came out 40 years later in "Copulatin' Blues," Stash Records ST-101. Pianist Walter Roland.
The lyrics are given in Randolph and Legman, "Roll You in My Arms," 1992, Univ. Arkansas Press, No. 149, pp. 463-464. Texts also in Paul Oliver, Screening the Blues, 1968, p. 231, and elsewhere. Oliver calls it a 'stomp-down roller,' from a Bogan line in the 'keg woman' version. Oliver lists two 1935 pressings by Lucille Bogan, Perfect 0332 (All You Keg Women) and CBS (M) 63288, unissued test pressing.

Fragments that have been collected go back to the 1890s-early 1900s, according to Randolph-Legman.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SHAVE 'EM DRY (from Lucille Bogan)
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 04:58 PM

I posted the following lyrics last year on my own thread about bawdy songs. It's from a 1935 recording by Lucille Bogan. As far as I am concerned nothing beats it. Enjoy.

SHAVE 'EM DRY

I got nipples on my titties
Big as the end o' my thumb
I got somethin between my legs'll
Make a dead man come

Oh, daddy, baby, won't you shave 'em dry?
I want you to grind me, baby, grind me til I cry

Well, I fucked all night
And all night before, baby
And I feel just like I want to fuck some more

Oh, great god, daddy, dry me, shave me dry
And when you hear me holler, baby,
I want you to shave 'em dry

I got nipples on my titties
Big as the end o' my thumb
Daddy, you say that's the kinda woman you want
And you can make 'em come

Oh, daddy, shave me dry
And I'll give you somethin baby
Swear it'll make you cry

I'm gonna turn back my mattress
And let you oil my springs
I want you to grind me, daddy
Til the bells do ring

Oh, daddy, I want you to shave 'em dry
Oh, great god, daddy, you can shave 'em, baby,
Won't you try?

Now fuckin was the thing that will take me to heaven
I'll be fuckin in the studio til the clock strikes eleven

Oh, daddy, daddy, shave 'em dry
I'll fuck you, baby, honey, I'll make you cry

Now your nut hangs down like a damn bell clapper
And your dick stands up like a steeple
Your goddamn asshole stands open like a church door
And the crabs walks in like people

(Uncontrollable laughter)
Woo! Baby, won't you shave 'em dry?

A big sow gets fat from eatin corn
And a pig gets fat from suckin
You see this whore fat like I am
Great god, I got fat from fuckin

Woo, shave 'em dry!

My back is made of whale bone
And my cock is made of brass
And my fuckin is made for workin me two dollars
Baby go around and kiss my ass

Woo, daddy, shave 'em dry!


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 12:22 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: wildlone
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 05:24 PM

ere is a link to llewtrah's site click if you dare!!!
dave


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: fat B****rd
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 02:59 PM

Would anybody have the lyrics to "Shave 'em Dry" ? Now from what little I recall that is Baaaaaaaaaaawdee !! Thank you from the fB


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 02:54 PM

"The Erotic Muse" by Ed Cray was Oak Publications, not Dover. Published in the late '60s. The revised and muchly expanded second edition from The University of Illinois Press was published in 1992.

I don't know if Ewan MacColl's multi-LP (early '60s, I think) edition of Robert Burns' Merry Muses of Caledonia is available. There is a CD by Davy Steele, Robin Laing et al of the Merry Muses with some good material but some strange tunes on it (especially the tune for "Nine Inch will Please a Lady" -- haven't a clue where they got it). Jean Redpath did include Burns' bawdy stuff on her multi-volume set.

Look up Frankie Armstrong's recordings, too. She's my source for "Nine Times a Night" and "Too Much of a Good Thing" among others.

"The Bird in the Bush" with Anne Briggs, Lou Killen, Bert Lloyd, Frankie Armstrong & Norman Kennedy is available on CD, but I don't think Arthur Argo's "A Wee Thread o' Blue" is.

Then there's www.armadillo.net/llewtrah/songbook.html -- Llewtrah's bawdy songbook. She's a collector of rugby songs as well as other bawdry.

Or PM me and call me and I'll sing stuff to you.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Nerd
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 02:40 PM

When Kenny Goldstein died, he was working on a book about bawdy ballads with Edith Fowke. She also died before it could be finished, but I think it is out now. It was to be entitled Bawdy Ballads and Dirty Ditties from Ontario and Newfoundland, and was coming out from Wilfrid Laurier University Press. I haven't actually seen a copy, but when I last to spoke to Kenny's widow all was on target for a September 2001 release date. It should have a lot of great material from field recordings made by Kenny and Edith in long careers as collectors; it might take some work to get them into "wench" period though....


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 02:16 PM

Am currently listening to Utah Phillips' "Loafer's Glory" (rebroadcast) on KGNU - http://www.kgnu.org/kgnulive.ram

He mentions a bit of collecting by "the wonderful Chicago folksinger, Art Thiem." And is now playing the bit Art taped from an olf hobo, Paul Durst. He's travelled with Joe Hill & lots of stuff. Plus Durst singing intercut with Cisco & others on the same songs. Great!


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOR SALE (Clarence Williams)
From: Tinker
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:47 PM

AggieBeth, if you want to get "modern" here's a sample from Street Walkin' Blues:25 Plaintive Paeans to the World's Oldest Profession,1924-1956, from Jass Records. It's alot of fun, but I would avoid State Street Blues if your ever up Boston way near any of the Lady Bankers...

FOR SALE

Hard times they tell me made a monkey eat hot pepper
Let me tell you what they've done to a red hot stepper
Hannah Johnson was a lucky farmerette til this depression
Now she's lost most everything she had in her possession

She didn't miss the cow, she didn't miss the chickens
But when she had to sell her Jack Ass then she raised the dickens
She didn't mind the loss of pigs, nor horses nor hay
The thing that hurt her most was to hear the neighbors say

Oh, Hannah Johnson's big Jack Ass is ~~on the block for sale.
The way she worked that Jack Ass It must be tough as a whale
Every man in the county could ride it bare back And honey so wide you were safe on her jack

For long distance riding her jack ass never tired
She worked for nothing, just the same as when hired.
Hannah Johnson's Big Jack Ass is on the Block for Sale
Hannah Johnson's Big Jack Ass is on the Block for Sale

The way she worked that poor ol' ass, It must be tough as a whale

When mounting be gentle You'll never have trouble
She worked alright single, but wouldn't tow double
If you owned her and the neighbors should pass
You could cover her head~ they'd recognize that ass

Hannah Johnson's big Jack Ass is on the Block for Sale
I'm talkin' about~ That mule was on the block for sale.

Tinker


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: MMario
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 08:37 AM

!!! you never told me! NOW, I HAVE to GET down to your place PRONTO!


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 02:51 AM

I have a whole songbook here somewhere. Hafta look.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 02:44 AM

Aggiebethie -

PM me if interested in the old Oscar Brand recording. I've got it and it's yours if you want.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: SeanM
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 01:30 PM

I've been bonked on the head by a lurking friend for forgetting a song above...

Maids When You're Young

M


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: paddymac
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 09:35 AM

Thanks for the tip, Abby. I'll track it down.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Katcina
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 09:32 AM

AggieBethie You are a fine singer of 'Bawdy' songs. You make my evening everytime you come in and give us a few. I only wish there were more singers with the fortitude to sing the open, honest, and fun type of songs that you do. Thank you for all that you add to the mucis world girl!


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Grab
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 07:24 AM

Don't get married girls

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Amergin
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 11:47 PM

That's right, Aggie, brag about your love affair with a moose....


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: AggieBethie
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 10:08 PM

Thank you so much to everyone! I'm on my way to learning more wonderful songs. Gig'em.

I've got one word for you--- MOOSE

:-)


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 02:42 PM

AggieBethie, I presume your screen name means you're in Texas. I hope for your sake you aren't a blonde. Since Texans tell Aggie jokes instead of Polack jokes or blonde jokes, if you were you'd be in as bad shape as a couple of guys I know who are lawyers that play banjo....

Anyway, if you want a source for bawdy cowboy songs (probably out of place at a RennFaire), check out The Whorehouse Bells Were Ringing, and Other Songs Cowboys Sing by Guy Logsdon (Univ. of Illinois Press, 1989). It's actually a fairly respectable scholarly work, but has good songs.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 02:20 PM

paddymac: You don't want that book, anyway. You want the greatly enhanced, indexed & many songs & tunes added second edition, 1992. It's by Ed Cray (same as the original), the current reigning Authority on bawdy English-language (esp American, though) song & ballad. It's easily available from the publisher, University of Illinois Press. I paid about $34 list but you should be able to improve on that online. It's an excellent book, the Bible of the genre and, believe it or not, one of a total of only three existing scholarly books on bawdy song. In days when you can access truly filthy material in comic book stores & movies, I think it shocking that scholarly treatment of humerous song was non-existant and even banned until this book came out.

chanteyranger: You may have said this but the Lanchester CD is available as a cheapo from Legacy-International for $5 or $6. (But, as always, try Camsco first.) It's a cute record & probably worth buying but very misleading to be called 'bawdy.' Well, one or two songs are mildly suggestive.

AggieBethie: I think the best part of your singing is the obvious humor you see in the songs and clearly pass this on. That is, after all, the essence of bawdy song. They're always funny.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 01:47 PM

Amazon's site has a CD called "Elsa Lanchester Sings Bawdy Cockney Songs." Also, in their auction section, is Oscar Brand's LP of bawdy sea songs. The current bid is $20, and the auction ends in three days. (the Lanchester CD is in print and available from their regular sales section).

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 12:52 PM

AggieBeth - don't forget that Wenches are also perfectly fine with singing songs telling how absoulutly worthless men are; or songs bewailing how faithless her love is. Though of course the bawdy ones ARE more fun. Do you know "Cat's on the rooftops?" or "Virtue"? we'll have to do a "bawdy night" in paltalk sometime...

Sean - are you able to do Paltalk? I'd love to hear some of the california songs -- haven't made it out there yet.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: artbrooks
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 09:59 AM

Actually, this is jenn, art's wife. Personally I like the bawdy songs that aren't shockingly outrageous--the ones where people do a double take, you know? There was a group in the Northwest long ago--Howling Gael. If you can find any of their tapes, listen to "The Three Drunken Maidens", "The Creech in the Creel", and the one about the guy who meets the girl on the road and they play cards. That Ewan McColl record afore mentioned was called "Bothy Ballads", I think. (OK, Art just went and looked, yup, it's Bothy Ballads, and it's got a lot of good ones!) Look for it and others at the library, and the library also probably has that antiquated electronic equipment you need to listen to records! The singer Derek Somerville (I think) did a tape with a couple of terrific ones--about a drunken husband whose wife sews him up in a sheet and beats him into good behavior (my personal favorite), one about a very libidinous rooster, and one about Sister Josephine about a nun who was not what he seemed--Hope you can find that one. I'd better quit, I appear to be doing the Mom thing. Anyway, have a wonderful time, you are certainly heading the right direction.


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Subject: ADD: Black Leather Band
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:29 PM

Here's "Black Leather Band", posted on another thread by MMario.

(Parody)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Black Leather Band
From: MMario
Date: 21-Sep-00 - 01:13 PM

BLACK LEATHER BAND

In a neat little town called Gomorrah,
In a case of distress I was found;
And many's the hour of happiness
I spent there while I was tied down.

CHORUS: Oh, the moonlight gleamed off her handcuffs,
As she gave me the back of her hand;
And the whip cracked down as I lay there,
Tied up with her black leather band.

I tried my best for to please her,
As I fed her grapes and I fanned;
For only the wealthiest slaves get the pleasure
Of wearing her black leather band. CHORUS

She liked to go strolling down Broadway.
On a short leash I couldn't go far,
Reined in by that frolicsome damsel
With a tattoo and a dagger-shaped scar. CHORUS

I woke one day from my lust for her
And the laces I took from me hand.
When she came, I put her in position,
Tied up with her own leather band. CHORUS

So come all you randy young fellows.
When a woman takes advantage of ye,
Enjoy it as long as you like, me lads,
Then turn her right over your knee. CHORUS


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:15 PM

Mario can tell you all about my history with wenches!


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:12 PM

(That should have said "copyrighted"... I think.)


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:09 PM

This is the website for my sister's group. They tweak existing songs to make them bawdy, so some of their material is probably copywrited, but you may be able to sing some of it anyway. They do maritime songs.

Pyrates Royale

Carol


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 09:56 PM

You might want to check out Dover Publications. They published a thing called "The Erotic Muse" 40 or so years ago. I've never been able to put my hands on it, but have seen some references to it. One Dover book I do have is "Barroom Ballads" by Frank Shay & John Held, Jr., first Published in 1961 as a re-publication of two works fro the late 1920's. ISBN 0-486-20946-6, Then there's "Bawdy British Folk Songs" by Tony McCarthy, 1972, Wolfe Publishing Ltd., London. ISBN 7234-0492-5. It's a start, anyway.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: SeanM
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 06:07 PM

Just to be complete, I'm also refreshing this thread about bawdy songs. Though at times, I think that's most of what we talk about musically. Or is it that we talk about music and are just bawdy in doing it? Damn it all, just blame the silliness on 'spaw. Seems to be the trend lately.

M


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 05:45 PM

glad to see a newish wench getting into the spirit! *grin*....met one once who, at 17, put several of us old codgers to shame at a late night sing!...welcome to the party!


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: SeanM
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 05:09 PM

Hi!

Here are a few classic Bawdy tunes we sing out on the renfaire scene in California: Cuckoo's Nest
A-Rovin' (Maid of Amsterdam)
Character of a Mistress
Jolly Tinker
Nine Times a Night
And finally, one that was actually banned from the Southern California event I worked at...
You're a Liar
Note that these are just a few of what are out there... Aside from the hundreds of @bawdy listings on the 'cat, there are THOUSANDS of bawdy songs, a lot of which are either close enough to "period appropriate" for a faire, or which can be made so with minimal changes.

Hope this helps,

M


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Troll
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 04:12 PM

Ed McCurdy's "Dalliance" series can often be found for sale on eBay as can the other recordings. Dunno 'bout the books tho.
"Roll Me Over" is a very good start.

troll


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Diva
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 03:24 PM

I'm rather fond of bawdy songs myself and Aggie aquitted herself with great aplomb. Wenches of the world unite Diva


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Nynia
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 03:20 PM

Aggie you are welcome to be a quiet by-stander in the Paltalk room anytime. If at any point you don't want to sing just say so and listen in. However, we'd far rather have you singing anyday. As Abby just said you've got a great voice and you are going to be a terrific performer (you're already good). Thanks for singing last night, hope to hear you again soon.


Nynia


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: AggieBethie
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 03:04 PM

Wow. Ya'll are so wonderful. Well, I've done a search on @bawdy, @seduction, and @sex(just for fun of course) and found more songs than I can go through in one sitting. BTW, can I tell you how much I love blue clicky things! I am so happy many of the songs have .wav files with them... that's definately what I need. As for the Arizona Faire, if anyone from Texas is going then I'd love to hop a ride with them, otherwise probably not(even though I do LOVE skipping classes :-) Be singing ya! (ok, bad, i know)


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 02:44 PM

Aggie, you have an excellent voice for these things and I think you'd perform well, too. There are a huge number of books & many of them with tunes. I agree, though that this is a last resort and often fails to give the subtilties or even meaning of the song.

I'm sure you know, or you wouldn't have asked that bawdy song is extremely rare on record. What there is is very hard to find. I think the great bulk of recorded bawdy sources are from the blues area, though.

My own treasure is MacColl singing a good bunch from Burns' 'Merry Muses of Caledonia.' Often you are going to make a choice of how bawdy to sing of several versions - all the way from "parlor version" up to "keep the smelling salts handy" version. I've had some success in listening to Medium versions on record (eg Brand from his 'Bawdy Songs & Backroom Ballads' series or McCurdy from 'When Dalliance Was in Flower' series and then substituting in the set of words I want. Many known trad bawdy songs simply have never been recorded - Haywire Mac McClintock flat refused to record his, etc.

I have a feeling that you are more (or at least equally) interested on what you might call risque or suggestive types rather than all-out x-rated. These would likely go over better in public, anyway. (No dis, though. Did you want the words to "Charlotte the Harlot?") Look to the English records. As suggested, a DT search on @bawdy will yield many titles and many mainstream singers will do one or two on a typical record. Carthy, eg, sings "German Musicianer" & Bellamy sings "Yarmouth Town" (sort of same as Carthy's "Domeama") Cliff Haslem (& in a version, Elsa Lancaster) sings "The Old German Clockwinder." These are all fairly widely sung excellent songs.

There are quite a few excellent songs of this type. But, I think, they are not much recorded as specifically bawdry - more likely as just some typical material in a general folk selection. That's my own preference, BTW, neither exclusive nor excluded - just the normally proportional part of the known body of material. But I agree that a "wench" must sing bawdy (and other love) songs.

One book you might make an effort to get: The Wanton Seed. Also Marrow Bones from E.F.D.S. and if you want the extreme, then Silverman's The Dirty Song Book.

Sing ye well.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: artbrooks
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 02:35 PM

Look for a copy of a songbook called "Roll Me Over". This should take care of getting you kicked out of any number of Ren Faires. Will you be at Arizona Faire?

(if this shows up twice-I'm new at it)


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: nutty
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 02:10 PM

My personal favourite is The Hedgehog Song it's very rude but very funny


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 01:30 PM

Then there's one of the raunchiest sea songs ever - "The Good Ship Venus." If you want to PM me I'll give you some info on it.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Midchuck
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 01:13 PM

I just made up that line. But she did point out that they'd omitted some lines from whatever song it was.

P.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 12:54 PM

What is the one about the parson and the goat?


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Naemanson
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 12:12 PM

Two of my favorites are "An ancient and old Irish Condom" and "When Alabama's Crew Got Laid" but neither fit the time frame you have as a wench, Aggie. Both came from the DT.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: StillyRiverSage (inactive)
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 12:02 PM

Ah, yes, the liberal education one receives when one's parent is a singer of bawdy songs. And if you grew up with it, then inappropriate lines are bound to pop unbidden into your head in the most unfortunate social situations. AggieBethie, if you start learning some of these songs, you must also learn to bite your tongue on occasion.
I'm following this thread with interest--I know a lot of those kinds of songs, but I have allowed my techno skills to collect dust (I'm a writer--there isn't much new to report in the last few years regarding MS Word and FrontPage) and am interested in more information about some of these programs and web sites where songs can be downloaded. I seem to be positioning myself to start recording or storing some family music, so need to come up to speed.

--md


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: Midchuck
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 11:41 AM

I think if you're in college, the way to collect such songs is to hang out with Rugby players.

When my daughter was a college freshman, she got invited to a rugby dinner, but was warned that some of the songs they sang were pretty raw. Well, after they had sung one of the rawer ones, everyone sort of looked at her to see if she would blush, or faint, or whatever. She said: "but you left out the verse about the parson and the goat!..." or something to that effect. When they asked how she new the song, she said "from my father, or maybe my mother...not sure..."

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 11:17 AM

do a DT search "@BAWDY" (minus the quote marks). That will take you to 240 or so lyrics, many to well-known melodies.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy music :-)
From: kendall
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 11:02 AM

welcome to the real world.. my icq number is 101206272


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Subject: Bawdy music :-)
From: AggieBethie
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:55 AM

Howdy! Well, after singing in the PalTalk room, I'm told I can't be a quiet bystandard anymore. So... I need to learn a few more songs. I am in a college town that plays nothing but country so it's hard to find new music. When I go to renaissance festivals I dress as a wench and wenches can only sing bawdy songs ;-) plus they are more fun. Okay, my request is for bawdy music or something good for a college girl to sing BUT I need to be able to hear it! (I recently became involved with folk music and haven't heard that many songs--even the ones that everybody knows) If you have any songs and know where to find them on a .midi, .wav, .mp3, or and other .crap, then please send it on or post an http address so I can go find it. (I've been to Cantaria and have learned most of the songs there that have music, but that's the only site I've found) Okay, now to go through all the old threads and kill more time... I love being a college student! :-) See you in PalTalk

P.S. If any of you have ICQ, AOLim, or MSNmessenger... my ICQ # is 48647788 and my IM and MSN screen name is AggieBethie


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