Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: PHJim Date: 31 Jul 11 - 11:55 PM Mike Cross's song about The Scotsman |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joe_F Date: 31 Jul 11 - 08:55 PM I do not know how much the situation may have improved, but in the milieu of my youth (U.S., middle class, 1950s) it would have been unreasonable to expect such songs. Women's self-esteem was expected, far more than men's, to depend on their being young. It would have been in dreadful taste to make fun of their aging, as one could of men's. Even to mention it was a faux pas. (One time, about 1957, I was given the task of writing a note to a lady to accompany a gift to her from a group of students, and I made the mistake of calling her "an old friend". I was ordered, with violently raised eyebrows, to get rid of that word.) Middle-aged women were expected to lie about their age as much as they could get away with, and it was ungallant, even for reference books, to contradict them. The emotional burden placed on women by that vile convention is well described in Stan Rogers's wonderful song "Lies", wherein, at length, love contrives to overcome it. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joybell Date: 31 Jul 11 - 08:08 PM That's a really interesting thought, Genie. I can't think of any either. Got me thinking though about my own relationship to some songs. When I first sang songs like, "Maids when you're Young..." I was 20 years old. Now I'm giving the advice from a far-off 66. It's the same for "Come all ye Fair and Tender Ladies." and lots more. Actually struck me about 10 years ago in the middle of "Old Maid in the Garret". I came to "...now I'm forty-five and I've never had an offer" I thought -- Wasn't I 25, and 45 seemed far away, just the other day? Lucky I have my True-love with me still. Sorry -- I'm wandering. I'll think about your idea and see if any song comes to mind. Cheers, Grandma |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Genie Date: 27 Jul 11 - 10:56 PM It seems there are lots of "bawdy" songs for women to sing, and many (if not most) audiences can enjoy hearing them. But one type of song that doesn't seem to work as comedy nearly as well when sung by a woman, as when sung by a man, is the sort like "I Don't Look Good Naked Anymore" or "I Wish They'd Do It Now." Maybe I'm wrong - and I hope I am - but it doesn't seem like the 'joke' in songs like this works well for women singers. Can anyone think of a song like this, basically lamenting the loss of youth and vigor and beauty or the lack of "getting any," that is done by women and gets the same kind of positive reaction as the male counterpoints do? |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joybell Date: 27 Jul 11 - 08:39 PM Ma Rainey's "My Man's a Deep-sea Diver" is a good one. Also I don't think anybody's mentioned "The Blacksmith" yet. With a jingle-bang-jingle. My all-time favourite. Cheers, Joy who's known for running song-circles called "Naughty Songs for Nice ladies". |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joe_F Date: 27 Jul 11 - 06:01 PM Bilby: That's a blues, and it goes way back. I have an LP that reproduces a recording from 1936. That, and mention of Bessie Smith, recall the fact that the dirty-blues tradition, tho mainly a male province, includes a fair number of songs from the point of view of, and sung by, women. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Bilby Date: 27 Jul 11 - 05:36 PM Nell Carter used to sing a song ostensibly about a used furniture store: " If I can't sell, I'm gonna sit down on it. I ain't about to give it away!" |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: VirginiaTam Date: 15 Jun 11 - 04:09 PM Shave 'Em Dry Four Whores of Baltimore Not the Way to Get Laid Leslie Fish Sleeping Scotsman Nine Times a Night |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Diva Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:31 PM Anything from the Merry Muses....Burn's collection of Bawdy songs....Nine Inch will please a lady, Wha'll Mow me noo, Ode to Spring......theres plenty there to choose from. |
Subject: ADD:You Were Only Fucking, While I Was Making Love From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 11 - 04:32 AM Oh, WTF, I should be doing the Vacation Bible School stuff, but why not?..... YOU WERE ONLY FUCKING, WHILE I WAS MAKING LOVE (Debby McClatchy) You called me sugar plum that night, down by the railroad track, You ran your fingers through my hair, and up and down my back; You called me sweets, you called me dear, you called me turtle dove; But you were only fucking, while I was making love. [terrific violin solo break, then mandolin] I did not know you loved me so, we only just had met; But when you held me in your arms, it seemed an even bet. I was not sure, but even so, I let you put it in; But while I was making love, you were only fucking. [inspiring piano solo, and then maybe a muted trumpet] Oh, now you've gone away for good and left me all alone; Except for little Lula Belle and her twin brother Jones; Have fun along the road of life, 'cause Jesus up above Knows that you were only fucking, while I was making love. Knows that you were only fucking, while I was making love. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:55 AM Joe, I'm surprised it hasn't been posted here. If you can type it up from the Bawdy Ladies Book and post it here in this thread, that would be very nice. I don't have time to type it up now because I'm helping the electrician rewire our house (and I'm working on stuff for Vacation Bible School), so I'm hoping you can do it. The songwriter was Debby McClatchy, my neighbor and longtime kitchen boss. Debby's Website lists the song as "You Were Only F-bleep-g, While I Was Making Love." I've sometimes heard her express regret for having written and recorded that song, although she still sings it sometimes. Lots of people like the song, but some people won't buy the album and some radio stations won't play the album because of "that song." In the picture on the album cover, Debby looks very young, sweet and innocent...and very pretty. Who woulda thunk somebody like that would have recorded THAT song? Guest, I'm sure Debby won't mind if I send you an MP3. Just send me an e-mail if you want it. Debby asked me to do the tech work for her on a "greatest hits" album. I can guarantee that Debby will ensure that "You Were Only Fucking" will NOT be on the album, even though it truly is one of her most popular songs. I'd like her to put her three Robert W. Service songs on the album, but she thinks their popularity is limited and that such long songs don't work on a "greatest hits" album. I think she's right, but they're MY favorites (Sam McGee, Dan McGrew, and Blasphemous Bill). -Joe- joe@mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joe_F Date: 14 Jun 11 - 08:04 PM Guest: I can type it out from the Bawdy Ladies Book, or copy that tape for you, as you prefer. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST Date: 14 Jun 11 - 04:33 PM you were only fucking while i was making love , looking for lyriks |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 21 Apr 11 - 09:59 PM Well I am a seventeen year-old girl and one of my favourite bawdy songs is "My Donkey Wants Water" or "Hold Him Joe". But the OP might not consider it because it is not, strictly, a "women's song". |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: CraigS Date: 29 Jul 03 - 06:34 PM The Bonnie Black Hare deserves a mention - as does the Kippers' "Cricket" song. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Bold Reynard Date: 29 Jul 03 - 03:27 PM Robert Burns' "Nine Inch Will Please a Lady" is in the DT. Jean Redpath sings a fine version on one of her Burns CDs. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: rich-joy Date: 29 Jul 03 - 08:20 AM I was going to mention the LP entitled "The Bird in the Bush" (A.L.Lloyd + Frankie Armstrong + Anne Briggs :Topic, 1966) and Ewan MacColl & Peggy Seeger's two LPs, "The Amorous Muse" and "The Wanton Muse" (Argo,1968). Though this is probably a bit Thread Drifty, coz they're more "traditional erotic" rather than "bawdy". Good but! Cheers! R-J |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: fogie Date: 29 Jul 03 - 04:18 AM There's a funny song called The randy old parson - I havent looked in DT its about a parson who makes advances to a farmers daughter, who entices him up to her room saying her parents are away, then, when he's in the altogether she screams out "father com quick here is a burglar come for to murder us all" Father appears with a shotgun and parson dissappears out of the window sans clothes, they then rifle his pockets and find gold, and he has to go back naked to his nagging old wife who evermore made him wish he was dead! |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:58 PM "I'm Selling My Porkchops and Giving The Gravy Away" by Memphis Minnie, I think. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Dave Bryant Date: 28 Jul 03 - 05:44 AM What about Ron Shuttleworth's wonderful parody of "Jim the Carter Lad", "Joan the Leather Queen." And I think that "We never mention Aunt Clara" probably counts as well. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 28 Jul 03 - 03:09 AM John Anderson reminded of an older thread Love Songs for Married Folks with some bawdy songs, indeed. Wilfried |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,celtaddict at work Date: 27 Jul 03 - 04:15 PM Does anyone have a contact for Ceilidh's Muse? I have run across references to their work before, and heard a wonderful song by them on a festival compilation tape from Houston, which gave no information whatsoever. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Puffenkinty Date: 27 Jul 03 - 01:49 PM Thanks to everyone who printed lyrics to "Twiddly Ay." I loaned my Thirty-nine Fingers cd (where I first heard it)to someone and haven't gotten it back so I couldn't remember all the words. For the person who inquired: Thirty-nine Fingers is a group that plays primarily in Virginia, especially the Richmond area. The name of the cd with "Twiddly Ay" is "Hands Down." The group is called Thirty-nine Fingers because one of their members had an unfortunate encounter with a circular saw.... Their lead vocalist is Kelly Kennedy who also has a solo album called "Springfield Mountain." |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: sharyn Date: 27 Jul 03 - 11:58 AM "Game of Cards" is quite nice. And Alison McMorland's version of "Cuckoo's Nest" is cute, with an experienced woman leading on a naive man: I met him in the morning, I took him there at night: He'd never been that way before, I had to keep him right. He never would have found it, he never would have guessed If I hadna shown him where to find the cuckoo's nest etc. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Celtaddict Date: 27 Jul 03 - 09:00 AM Thanks, Rita, for her correct name. Has she a recording? |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Ferrara Date: 27 Jul 03 - 08:26 AM Nope. Didn't work quite right. I guess I'm not on Mudcat often enough these days to understand all the improvements Max has made.... |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Ferrara Date: 27 Jul 03 - 08:25 AM I'm really happy to have the lyrics for Twiddley-Aye. Janie sings it sometimes at the Royal Mile Shanty Sing in Wheaton, MD. Here it is with the verses formatted a bit (I hope): TWIDDLY-AYE (Jainie McNeely, as recorded by Ceilidh's Muse) When the ships all get to sailing and the men are often gone, What about the women who are up and left alone? Do you think they sit and twiddle thumbs until the men come home? There are other things to twiddle when a girl's left on her own. Chorus: And it's twiddly-aye-dee-aye-dee-aye, twiddly-ate-dee-ay, Often times a man can leave you broken with dismay, Twiddly-aye-dee-aye-dee-aye, twiddly-ate-dee-ay, There's other things to twiddle when your man has gone away. Sweet miss Nancy Johnson was as fair as any maid, Her true love went a-voyaging, a sailor-man by trade, "Keep the fires burning, love," those were the words he spoke, So she found herself another man to keep the fires stoked. (Chorus) I remember Nelly, she was young and she was gay, She won the heart of Captain Dann until he went away, He left her high and dry with but a kiss upon the chin, But as his ship was sailing out, another ship sailed in. (Chorus) Lucy Duncan's man came home and knocked upon her door, She was as glad to see him as she'd ever been before, He left her lying on the bed but Lucy didn't care, For the fellow in the closet, too, could use a little air. (Chorus) Now, you hear a lot of stories 'bout the sailor and his sport, About how every lad has got a girl in every port, Well, if you'll add up two and two, you'll figure out right quick, It's just because a girl has got a lad on every ship. (Chorus) |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Joe_F Date: 26 Jul 03 - 06:47 PM There was (and perhaps still is -- Google has nothing for it in the past few years) a group called the Bawdy Ladies (Anne Goodwin, Anabel Graetz, Linda Lombardi) who in 1986 put out a tape, on the Wild Rose label, called _The Bawdy Ladies' Book_. I have also heard them perform several times (once again, not recently) in the Boston area. They sing with zest and do not mince words. The tape contains: Three Drunken Maidens Christmas Goose Johnny Be Fair Eppie Morrie Sorry the Day Wife's Lament Home Dearie Home Malurous Qu'o Uno Femmo Maids When You're Young Nine Times a Night Isabel and the English National Monuments I Lay with an Old Man Foolish, Incredibly Foolish You Were Only Fucking While I Was Making Love Kitchen Man Man in the Moon [= Roll Your Leg Over, female version] |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Ely Date: 26 Jul 03 - 06:26 PM Damn, that didn't work out like I wanted. Sorry. Well, the verses are four lines each . . .
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Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Ely Date: 26 Jul 03 - 06:25 PM TWIDDLY-AYE (Jainie McNeely, as recorded by Ceilidh's Muse) When the ships all get to sailing and the men are often gone, What about the women who are up and left alone? Do you think they sit and twiddle thumbs until the men come home? There are other things to twiddle when a girl's left on her own. Chorus: And it's twiddly-aye-dee-aye-dee-aye, twiddly-ate-dee-ay, Often times a man can leave you broken with dismay, Twiddly-aye-dee-aye-dee-aye, twiddly-ate-dee-ay, There's other things to twiddle when your man has gone away. Sweet miss Nancy Johnson was as fair as any maid, Her true love went a-voyaging, a sailor-man by trade, "Keep the fires burning, love," those were the words he spoke, So she found herself another man to keep the fires stoked. I remember Nelly, she was young and she was gay, She won the heart of Captain Dann until he went away, He left her high and dry with but a kiss upon the chin, But as his ship was sailing out, another ship sailed in. Lucy Duncan's man came home and knocked upon her door, She was as glad to see him as she'd ever been before, He left her lying on the bed but Lucy didn't care, For the fellow in the closet, too, could use a little air. Now, you hear a lot of stories 'bout the sailor and his sport, About how every lad has got a girl in every port, Well, if you'll add up two and two, you'll figure out right quick, It's just because a girl has got a lad on every ship. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: AggieD Date: 26 Jul 03 - 03:05 PM I rather like 'The Light Dragoon', which is sung by Mike Waterson/Eliza Carthy, & is full of double-entendre's. Eliza's version is slightly different to the one in the DT. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,celtaddict at work Date: 26 Jul 03 - 11:46 AM Puffenkinty, that song is by Janie Maneely (sp?) who called it "Twiddles" and the lyrics are in a thread mentioned a few posts above, 0.7742, if you want the whole thing. Not yet in the DT but seems likely to get there; it is mentioned on a number of threads. I have heard it but have not seen it recorded. Do you have information about the recording? Is Thirty-Nine Fingers a group? A label? A title of a compilation CD? Or the songwriter's own album? |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Sooz Date: 26 Jul 03 - 11:36 AM The song about the devil and the widow is called the Widows Promise and is by Mick Ryan. Always goes down well. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Puffenkinty Date: 26 Jul 03 - 10:22 AM There's a great song called "Twiddly Ay". It's about the things sailors' women do when their men are off to sea. It's on a Thirty-Nine Fingers cd. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Ar Date: 26 Jul 03 - 09:58 AM |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: nutty Date: 26 Jul 03 - 06:59 AM How about ...THE FURZE FIELD Its in the DT |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 26 Jul 03 - 03:54 AM Gleaned from the Rugby Thread
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Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Celtaddict Date: 25 Jul 03 - 11:57 PM DaisyA: 'The Widow and the Devil' aka 'The Widow's Promise' was written by Mick Ryan, who is still going strong. It sounds much older, the mark of an excellent traditional-style songwriter. Mollificent: My dad had a 78rpm (remember those?) with the memorable line, "The Admiral's daughter is waiting by the water; she wants to ride his dinghy." Related to the song you quote? Besides the fantastic Bessie Smith and Ma Rainey, there was a woman called Rusty Somebody who had a 40s LP called "Knockers Up." There is also a great song by Janie Meneely the gist of which is that if a sailor has a girl in every port, it is because she has a guy on every ship. Do the math. It is on thread 0.7742 but I have not mastered the blicky for threads. I know that birthday is long past but this topic needs more! |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 02 May 01 - 11:47 AM Mr. Red, there was no volume of any the 4 editions of 'Pills' issued in 1715. |
Subject: Lyr Add: MY HANDY MAN AIN'T HANDY NO MORE From: MMario Date: 02 May 01 - 09:09 AM the companion piece:
MY HANDY MAN AIN'T HANDY NO MORE |
Subject: Lyr Add: MY HANDY MAN^^ From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 May 01 - 08:13 PM MY HANDY MAN (Andy Razaf) Whoever said a good man is hard to find, Positively, absolutely, sure was blind. I found the best man that ever was, Here's just some of the things he does: He shakes my ashes, greases my griddle, Churns my butter, strokes my fiddle. My man is such a handy man! He threads my needle, creams my wheat, Heats my heater, chops my meat. My man is such a handy man! Don't care if you believe or not, He sure is good to have around. Why, when my furnace gets too hot, He's right there to turn my damper down! For everything he's got a scheme. You ought to see his new starter that he uses on my machine. My man is such a handy man! He flaps my flapjacks, cleans off the table, He feeds the horses in my stable. My man is such a handy man! Sometimes he's up long before dawn, Busy trimming the rough edges off my lawn. Ooh, you can't get away from it! He's such a handy man! Never has a single thing to say, While he's working hard. I wish that you could see the way He handles my front yard! My ice don't get a chance to melt away, He sees that I get that old fresh piece every day. Lord, that man sure is such a handy man! [Recorded by Ethel Waters in 1928. A sequel to this song, "My Handy Man Ain't Handy No More," words by Andy Razaf, music by Eubie Blake, was composed for the show "Blackbirds of 1930." JTD] |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Lisa Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:41 PM Well, 'Maids when you're young' may not be all that bawdy but it certainly causes a stir, especially when sung to the older gentleman! |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,NancAurelia Date: 23 Apr 01 - 01:29 PM How about "The Lusty Young Smith" and "Roll Your Leg Over" both on the DT? |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: GUEST,Rex at work Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:40 AM One not mentioned so far is "The Crafty Maid's Policy" otherwise known as "Horse Thief". A catchy tune and a clever story that starts out seeming to be bawdy. Rex |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: MMario Date: 21 Apr 01 - 11:36 AM that entire site, as far as I can tell- is a collection of cd's that has been lifted almost directly from the DT. Most of the listings are word for word the entries in the DT - and if the DT has no tune, the site has not tune. |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Mr Red Date: 21 Apr 01 - 06:25 AM I found this looking for ear bags http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/bawdy-songs/idxv14as.htm now anyone know where Earbags UK hang out. (don't tell me right here please). |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Snuffy Date: 20 Apr 01 - 09:17 AM Night Wing - try Hurrah me Yella Girls Doodle Let Me Go |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: Bert Date: 20 Apr 01 - 01:38 AM MMario me ol' china, downright crude works for me every time;-) |
Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: RWilhelm Date: 20 Apr 01 - 01:20 AM My wife sings "Follow the Band" (in the database)
My husband's a mason, a mason, a mason etc.
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Subject: RE: Bawdy songs for women to sing From: NightWing Date: 19 Apr 01 - 10:47 PM lady penelope, To what tune do you sing Toyboys? I have a couple of friends who would LOVE to learn this one.
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