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GUEST,Steve Latimer 16 Mar 03 - 06:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 06:32 AM

Stilly River Sage,

Sinead tore up a picture of the Pope on live television while making a comment to the effect of him being the real enemy or something. I think it was a week or two later that she was booed off the stage at the Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert. I don't think her carreer has been the same since.

This will take a lot of the wind out of the sails of the Chicks, I think Rick's idea of buying her out and replacing her is something that the record company is probably discussing at length right now.

I guess my take is that I don't go to concerts to hear about the political views of the performers whether I agree with them or not. If I want politics I'll watch CNN, not go to a concert.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 08:06 AM

I don't think GW can be acting in the interests of the global community. Especially not since a large chunk of said community either doesn't feel threatened by Saddam, doesn't care who's in power there and doesn't feel killing a whole bunch of folks is a really good way to get one guy and his regime, who will be hiding someplace very safe while the destruction occurs, out of power. Even the Iraqis who may support efforts to remove him from power will be anti-American if we bomb the crap out of them. The ones who live through it, anyway.

I don't think Natalie Maines was wrong to state her point of view. Everybody has a right to express their opinion - EVEN entertainers. I think she might have said it better, and I think she might have focused on the war and not Bush. He's got his plan on how to solve the 'problem', but there's a whole bunch of people that support him, and they're ALL responsible.

If you believe the polls, and I'm afraid I don't trust the way statistics might be being manipulated, there's a lot of people advocating war. There's a lot of people who, in my opinion, just don't really care. That's what I'm embarrassed about. They sit back and say "Heck, he's the president. He must know what he's doing. I'm a GOOD American, so if he says war, then I want war too." They forget the president exists to speak for the American people and not the other way around. It may be the only reason why they want war is that it's just too darned complicated to think about critically. The silent majority is back, folks, and they're BAD!

In any case, I think Maines just forgot how much attention is focused on entertainers, and put her foot in her mouth. NOT that she doesn't believe it or shouldn't have expressed her beliefs, but because she said it badly. It's happened before and will happen again, and hopefully, people will look at more than just one off-the-cuff remark when making their judgements about someone.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 09:35 AM

Wow, Sinead and her tearing up the Pope's picture. I'd forgotten about that Steve. Similar in some ways but mostly quite different. First ya don't fuck with the BIG religions! Her point (certainly valid) was about the Pope's silence on many womens' issues (other than supporting conservative values)......well....that's "Feminist", she's Irish Catholic, and maybe she was gutsy, but (like Natalie) she might have made her point better by (say) sending a message to the United Nations or something. The fact that she cried at the booing, certainly indicated to me that she did NOT expect that kind of reaction! Heck, wasn't Kristofferson the only one who PUBLICLY supported her?

Natalie's comment was enthusiasticly received by the audience....but where's the surprise in that? No matter which side of the "Iraq War" question you're on, you can't deny that many millions of people have been out on the pavement.....agreeing with her a hundred percent. I really DO wish she'd simply expressed her opinion about the war, rather than taking a shot at Dubya. You can be more effective when you ain't rude.....although I know how tempting it must have been.

Can't wait to see what happens at the Oscars.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chics and their Media Whore/s
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 10:53 AM

Arne, I don't think you play or sing squat! I suspect you are on some payroll-which one?-, and worried about the bottom line, as well as being a certain kind of person who will say or do almost anything for more green stuff, hence your presence here, did the 'Manager' send you, are you the dude with the Limo?

This thread is not about G W Bush, it is about a big mouthed babe who dragged an entire state into her foreign public arena privilidged US citizen entertainer put down of G W, it is about the fact that lots of people in Texas not only disaggree with her, but take the opposite view, it is about Texas ain't cowardly, it is about hushing some little spoilt brat who is putting Allied lives in danger by her drunk drugged MISINFORMED outburst, finaly it is about a measured and appropriate response - not the sort that Saddam and Co would be dealing out=a firing squad= though at first that did occur to me- in short Mr Arne moneygrabber it is about knowing the difference between fact and fantasy.

To sell more CDs she blabbed and she stabbed Texas in the BACK now she got caught and has to be gagged. Her bleatings about how sorry she is, ain't gonna help her at all, this is War. Not only will Joepublic not buy her shit, I am willing to bet some enlisted babe will take a poke at her. So B4 this is ova, Earl's fate may be one she prays for.

My response is 'hey Chics remember Earl, yeah that one?, the cops have reopened the case, and you are No 1 suspects'


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:00 AM

The truth is that she will never be forgiven. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:06 AM

"Putting allied lives in danger" - uh...ok. Your heated opinion up there probably blew away a few mice in Oregon. There may be a good number of enlisted folks (probably not in the Marines) who don't agree that war is a good idea, but the military do NOT normally encourage them to speak about it and the major news networks seem more concerned with human interest stories.

You want to take a more realistic look at who's potentially putting allied lives in danger?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:20 AM

I am not going to argue with you Jeri! Every word we say on here, on a stage etc, can and is used by people who believe we 'the Infidel' must be anhilated. Think of it this way, Hitler was a clumsy clown compared with these people; look at the arms they have and are preparing to use, VX Gas, Smallpox, and the rest.

Re services cowards -Folks who signed up for the services KNEW what they were doing when the took the oath. Thats all- You signed on the line and got the MONEY so now you have to fight, or be shot in the head by a crazy Mulla.

Mice in Oregon!!!, gee Jeri put that fiddle into drive and quit sqeakin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:33 AM

And who gave them the bioweapons? And who supported them when they gassed the Kurds? They became sophisticated on your dime (that's one dime American). yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:45 AM

"it is about hushing some little spoilt brat who is putting Allied lives in danger by HIS drunk drugged MISINFORMED outburst..."

This is one of the better succinct characterizations of George W. Bush andhis agenda that I've seen in quite a while. Nice job.

PS: best dial down the paranoid hysteria a notch ot two- yer gonna hurt yerself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: fox4zero
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 12:21 PM

Arne, I'm with you 100%

WHAT ON EARTH IS THE RELATIONSHIP OF THIS WAR WITH 9-11?


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 12:36 PM

sorefingers, so glad you aren't going to argue. I agree folks who signed with the military either need to do as told or face the consequences. But they MUST question the rightness of their actions - at least according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. People are individually responsible for what they do.

If your definition of coward is someone who speaks their mind despite the possibility of being shouted at and called names by someone espousing the views of Authority, then thanks for the compliment! Those 'cowards' are in pretty good company! Seems to me the US became the US because of cowards, slavery was ended by cowards, human rights have been recognised because of cowards, and wrongs are generally exposed by cowards. It's your 'brave' folks who get us into trouble.

Not that I'm arguing with you...


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 12:39 PM

Hmmmmmm is Natalie about to become this "situation's" 'Hanoi Jane'?

I doubt it's gonna be Barbra Streisand cuz too many people have hated her for so long, there's no novelty in it.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Tweed
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 12:39 PM

Hmmmmmm.....Beatles more popular than Jesus......them guys hung in there after their firestorm, mebbe the Chicks have a good chance too. They got big balls to say what they think and that's fairly uncommon these days.

Yerz,
Tweed


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 12:54 PM

No, they are doomed. You want cute blond women saying nice things about our boys, as they play "down home" music, smelling of magnolia and beer spilt in the back of the pickup; not some bad mouthing bitch dissing our great leader in his hour of greatest peril, and to foreigners eating French food. Sell your Dixie Chick stock. Natalie is toast.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:00 PM

and to foreigners eating French food

Peter T. Get with the program. We don't say the Fr*nch word any more. Now you have to say "freedom food".


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:12 PM

AND......Peter....that's FREEDOM TOAST if you don't mind.

So...a question. Does anyone actually know if this calling everything that was formally named "French", freedom, is being taken seriously by more than a handful? I mean, it hasn't swept the country has it?

Rick (off to get some Freedom's Mustard)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:15 PM

Agree with Peter T. Every thing we do or say is watched by the bad people who exterimated Kurdish civilians with nerve gas. If you think these folks are fuzzy friends, you are nutz.

To those who say that because the west sold them the technology we are to blame, I say ,they bought the stuff and then used it, and it would not matter where they got it - they would still have used it. Ask youself this 'who looked for nerve gas and why?'.

You can no more blame the US for what happened than you can Ford Motor
Company for the wreck on a highway. Its not who made the stuff that decides the issue but who used it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:21 PM

If your highly unstable Ford SUV flipped while changing lanes or your friggin' Pinto blew up then I think Ford might have had something to do with it............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: DougR
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:31 PM

"Who is putting allied lives in danger," Jeri? How about Saddam?

I wasn't aware people bought or didn't buy CDs on the basis of their political beliefs. Neither did I know friends did not join in a recording session for the same reason. I'm learning a lot on this thread.

No one has argued that she did not have to right to say what she thinks. Surely she measured the effect of what fall-out might occur as a result of her saying it. Based on the quote supplied above, she evidently is having some second thoughts regarding the wisdom of sharing her thoughts with her audience. She knew she was in an environment that would applaud anything negative she said about President Bush, what she might not have considered was that she was going to have to face the folks back home. According to latest polls (apologies to Bobert)the majority of the American people favor our going into Iraq and displacing Saddam. She would have had to take into account that the majority of American citizens would not be sympathetic to her POV.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,dixie ducks
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:34 PM

just in time


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:35 PM

Yes Rick. It's being taken seriously by a lot of people. Funny think is, that one could seriously backfire. If they keep pairing the word "freedom" with "French", after a while the two will become synonymous. A fitting irony, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 01:37 PM

*funny thing* (sheesh)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 02:06 PM

OK Peter. They're toast...history, kicking bucket, say goodnight Gracie, circling the drain and imminently non-existant. People will buy millions of their CDs just so they can run over them with their Chevy pick-ups.

Rick, I never heard the Freedom/French thing until you used it, and I didn't know what the hell you were talking about!


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 02:15 PM

What are they proposing to call French kissing? yours, Peter T. (That the French haven't sued over the use of "French dressing" suggests that they have a great deal of diplomatic patience)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 02:19 PM

Everything that used to be "French" is now "freedom". They sell "freedom fries" here in Georgia now. They come with a tiny US flag stuck in them.

I feel really bad for people like French Stewart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 02:23 PM

So Rick and PT.....Is there still the joint in Toronto called "Hello Toast?" I always thought it was great that someone took Fran Liebowicz's line and actually used it!!

Sorry....that really has nothing much to do with the French bashing thing......But if you can bash an entire country, why not Bush?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 02:32 PM

Is there any truth to the rumour that they are going to imprison G.W. on the Azores before sending him to Elba or St. Helena? yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 03:06 PM

I have respect for the Office of President of the United States. But—considering the fact that the man who now holds that office

has trashed the American economy, squandered a hard-won surplus and managed to plunge this country into a national debt which has never before been equaled, while increasing the unemployment rate to near-Depression levels;

at the same time, he is tearing up the social safety net;

repeatedly tries to placate the public by announcing the launching of good-sounding health and education programs, and then refuses to back them up with the necessary funding;

is giving our national forests and other natural resources to corporations for economic exploitation;

blatantly disregards the rest of the world's concerns over the state of the environment;

enjoins states and cities to be major participants in securing the nation against terrorists, then provides no funding by which to do this; and then erodes local governments and emergency services of their ability to conduct even their normal functions by activating National Guard units, taking away the personnel of police and fire departments and airport and seaport security guards and screeners;

and most of all, is positioning himself and his cohorts to stifle any opposition to his policies by repealing large sections of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the name of "national security" (the cry of all tyrants throughout history);

pontificating about long-standing and high-minded American ideals and worthy goals as if he were reading T-shirts and bumper-stickers, while trampling on those ideals and goals by his actions;

and is further alienating former friends and allies, and the vast majority of the peoples of the world by arrogantly leading the United States into an ill-disguised campaign of colonial conquest, economic if possible, military if necessary, of the rest of the world, beginning by launching a war in the Middle East which any student of history and geopolitics knows will lead the United States and any other country with the bad judgment to collaborate with it, into a decades-long morass that will make Vietnam look like a toddler's birthday party, will further decimate the American economy by adding the burden of a long and expensive war, will lead to the wanton slaughter of military personnel and innocent civilians alike—and will further create fear and hatred for the United States with the inevitable result, not of quelling terrorism, but creating new generations of terrorists.

George W. Bush, his cohorts, and his policies constitute a disaster of global proportions.

I have respect for the Office of President. But for the man who currently holds that office, I have only fear and disgust.

For God's sake, get that man out of there in 2004. If it's not too late by then. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: The Pooka
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 04:09 PM

Joe Offer - Aww! Ya caved! Put it back in Music!! // NONONO jes' kiddin' Mr Joe. {Wuttsa mattah fuh yoo; yer not Pleasin' all o' da Peoples all o' da Time, here. Hop to it wouldyez :}

Now, Larry. (Sorry timelag) - "...as to Sadam invading Kwait... I don't know about you, but I am not a Kawaite, in fact, if I was and you were, as not a member of the ruling elete there, we'd likely be slaves." Well, "slaves" is a bit hyperbolic; but Yeah, & I'm no fan of His Heinie the Emir, believe me. However: one need not be a Kuwaiti to acknowledge that when Saddam attacked, seeking to annex, that sovereign (albeit monarchical) nation, a then-unanimous UN Security Council legally authorized coalition forces, led by us, to repel the invaders under international law. And, that the conclusion of those hostilities entailed Hussein's binding commitment to meet certain conditions, which he has not done, in 12 long years. (The problem now -- and it IS a big one in my view because I do believe in internationalism -- is that the Nations are no longer United.)

"Fact is, the new American concevatives are not concervatives at all, but reactionaries who are playing fast and easy with the elimental rights that define us as a people." I completely agree, which is why I oppose the excesses of Ashcroft & Co. Understand, I am not a new American conservative (neoCon). Hell, I'm not even an OLD American conservative (paleoCon), though admittedly I USED to be one, long ago, circa Goldwater. (I didn't say I'm not Old; just not Conservative.:) But, even we liberals can oppose murderous fascistic tyrants who at the moment happen to be brutalizing countries other than our own. In fact, ESPECIALLY we liberals should oppose them. (See Elie Wiesel's recent statement re Iraq.)

"You claim that these are new times." Yeah, sadly, I do; & I think I'll stand by that particular claim. Hard to refute.

"...If American rights could survive the war against hitler, I expect they can servive any struggle against sadam husain..." Again I agree, with both the expectation & the implicit moral equivalence. (Incidentally, *Hitler* didn't directly attack the U.S. either. Hirohito did. Oh sure, Germany declared War on us after we did against their ally Japan following Pearl Harbor; but still, did we *really* Give Peace A Chance with ol' Adolf? Exhaust all the diplomatic avenues? Y'know, like France did?? / Hm, yeah, I think so too.) But as to American rights surviving, we must be vigilant against Ashcroft's extreme domestic agenda, as well as against Saddam's & (distinctly) Osama's transnational ones. For, ultimately, the same reason: preservation of liberty.

"...I am reminded of American concervatives telling me love it or leave it,..." I would never tell you, or anyone, that. And, neither would a *true* conservative. (Granted, an endangered species these days.)(Hi, Doug R. Howareya?:)

- TransIdeological Pooka


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 04:45 PM

What's worse is that those childish f##king Republican geniuses in the U.S. House of Representatives stole the public's time to ACTUALLY PASS RESOLUTIONS TO CHANGE THE NAMES OFFICIALLY to "Freedom Fries" and "Freedom Toast"- being, as usual, too f##king dimwitted to realize that the Fries were named an American by the NAME of French, and that the Toast is of Belgian origin.

Jesus Wept.

Stand Tall, America!


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: DougR
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:13 PM

Hi Pooka, I'm just fine thank you! Especially so since TTR memoralized me in poetry on one of the threads (forget which one). Being famous will be difficult to adjust to because I'm such a modest person, but I'll try to adjust.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:23 PM

Do you mean to say, DougR, that all this time you've been holding fast to your position (whatever it is), we could have bought you with a song? Sheesh, if we'd only known this a bit earlier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: X
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:43 PM

When the dust clears away there will be an A-bomb in one of Sadam's bunkers and the instructions on how to use it will be in French.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:48 PM

Well< I'm ashamed to say that though I had heard of the Dixie Chicks I had never actually heard anything by them until a couple of weeks ago when I was surfing on the TV and there they were playing a wonderfully arranged and rendered song entitled "Soldiers Marching". I was spellbound by their talent a delivery and just had to wait until itwas over to find out who they were.

Well, that doesn't have anything to do with the thread but, hey, I'm proud that one of those ladies had the courage to express herself. Yeah, given their NASCAR, Budweiser and Bubba audience, I think its great. This audience, unfortunately are mostly the Epsilons of society and have been dumbed down sufficient for their roles. Yeah, I'm sure someone is gonna think I'm being aroogant here and maybe I am, but it's true. I've known a bunch of these folks in my day and live in an area that has more than it's share. I love to see someone step out from winning a NASCAR race and say something. I'm sure there are folks on the circuit who have anit-war opinions but in these days, the 1st Ammendment ain't doing too well.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: The Pooka
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 05:49 PM

DougR, LOL!! Congratulations! Aaah you'll adjust to fame just fine. All you conservatives are innately humble. You inherit your self-effacing dispositions from the Godfather: Bill Buckley. :) hee hee hee - The Mother of All Modesty, by Allah...NYC Mayoral candidates' debate, 1965 - moderator, concluding the program: "Mr. Buckley, would you like to make any further remarks?" WFB Jr.: "No, I think I'll just contemplate the great eloquence of my previous remarks."

& Greg F, hawhaw!! Oui, d'accord. But the House Repubs are upholding a venerable tradition of silliness. Since I'm bumbling down Memory Lane here anyway: there was once an occasion when House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford of Michigan, in a big speech on the floor, announced his caucus's new program formally entitled Constructive Republican Alternative Proposals. / Evidently Gerry hadn't thought about the acronym. The Dems did, though...real quick... / I say (though reluctantly), throw Saddam out with his filthy Ba'athwater, since all the alternatives are now even worse; and (not reluctantly) quit projecting our frustration & anger onto people like The Dixie Chicks (for God's sake!) and Jacques Chirac. Like we can pursue our national interests as we see them, but he can't pursue his. C'mon. (But if we *must* Francebash, then at least let's get les produits correcte.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 06:12 PM

Ah Pooka, my hat is in deed off to you and I see we agree on a number of things, so, niether of us in a pigion holed thinker. I am glad you see the danger to basic rights these times have brought about, I just wish you saw the war in the same light, but well, that is what makes horse races eh?
As to this being moved to the BS threads... Joe no offence, but it shows the sorry state of American free thought. This is very much a music thread... as a working New York folk musician who just had a gig canciled a few hours after I was booked, because of fear of my advocacy for Lynne Stewart... the statements of folk musicians in the new McCarthy age IS not abstract political talk, it is about our music industry... Joe, think about moving this back where it belongs. But, of course, it is your call.
Cheers
Larry


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 07:16 PM

Well Jeri, you is right and I is wrang! Yup the code you speak of is the boss here, but that does not mean I ain't madder than a fox in a bread basket, fact is I asked could get a few shots at em meself, but they said A too old and B too darned mad.

Oh well, let that chic eat it for a week then we may think about forgiving her!

(:


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Troll
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:09 PM

Greg, if you knew all that and knew that the House was doing that resolution bit, why didn't you call up and clue them in? You could have kept them from making a laughingstock of themselves/
Or is that why you didn't warn them.

troll

ps. I assume that the facts you quoted are common knowledge among the populance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Kim C
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:19 AM

Arne, I can't speak for Mark Twain; but personally, I believe that the freedom of speech carries with it the responsibility of knowing when it's time to keep yer yap shut.

While Twain was a master at pulling people's legs, I don't believe he did it 100% of the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Beccy
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 05:56 PM

Perhaps someone more enlightened than I could explain how in the world a singer voicing a political opinion from the comfort of a foreign country instead of from a stage in their own country qualifies her as "heroic"??? I'd be more impressed if she made her pronouncement from an arena in Houston. In the meantime, I think Natalie Maines was a serious wuss and I'm irritated enough to put off purchasing a copy of "Home".


Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: wilco
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 06:41 PM

Three music stores here in Southeast Tennessee trashed their CDs. These were mom&pop operations. One of thes stores had a bunch of Ricky Scaggs CDs, Big Mon, which had a cut by the Dixie Chicks on them. They got canned too. Local radio stations pulled them from their play lists. My daughter trashed hers too.

Pretty soon, they will be opening for Peter, Paul, and Mary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,joe
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:42 PM

they're still more popular than jesus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:49 PM

Wilco48... Well it is nice to see CD trashing, the modern equivelant of book burning is alive and well in America. The whole idea of a Kristalnacht to go along with the part 2 "Patriot Act" shows that this legislation is in deed what America wants. Well, lets take stock, internment without charge or trial, removal of citizenship, torture, deportation... and destroying one's work in public... what year is it... 1936?
Cheers'
Larry


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:50 PM

PS It is nice to see that the wee man in the White House has no territorial claims in Iraq... does he paint landscapes as well?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 09:10 PM

Danged, Larry! Why didn't ya' tell mem that the knicklehead was gonna be on? I just had my tele-poli-graph calibrated and wanted to give it a good test. Oh well...

So, ahhh, did you keep a score card?

I have a formula that works purdy good fir Bush. I figure 1 *minor* lie per minute and 1 *major* lie every 7 minutes, depending on wind speeed, of course.

Now, if ya give 5 points to the major lies and 1 oint to the minors, after a while you can get some kind of bio-rythmic thing going.

So, how'd Bush do tonight? His average 2.3 lpm's (lies per minute).

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: YOR
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 12:50 PM

Great post Bobert. GW is burning on a solid 40 watts.

Anywho, I tried to post this yesterday but things got hung up.

Ain't free speakin great!

This national trend of disagreeing with the big G or the Prez makes you un-american has gone much much to far.

The Dixie Chicks just made a quick comment intended to get reaction from the audience.

Many years ago Don Henley while touring with The Eagles made this big speech in the middle of the show about saving Walden pond, clean water and save the trees. The audience boo'ed him and he replied that they didn't care. That's it Don, insult your audience, way to go. They cared! They cared that they spent $75 a seat to hear music, not a political rally.

Enjoy, Roy


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 01:01 PM

Jed Marum may just be the most eloquent person on this forum. And for Bobert - yep - no one that follows NASCAR has a dentist, made it through grade school, or does anything without checking with Bill France.

Fuck the chicks and fuck you - arrogant POS hippy wannabe from Virginia - Virginia? Say isn't that where all of NASCAR folks went to school?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Kim C
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 01:10 PM

Hey, wait a minute now. I like NASCAR. My brother likes NASCAR. We both have Bachelor's Degrees - mine from Belmont College in Nashville, TN (now Belmont University), and his from the University of Kentucky. We both have dazzling smiles with real teeth. I actually go to the dentist twice a year to keep mine. He probably does too but I never asked him.

Who's Bill France?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:15 PM

Bill France started NASCAR - :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: JohnnyBeezer
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:15 PM

Ok, Let's saddle up and get back in the war!!
Johnny N


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