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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Dickey Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:29 AM Barry: My wife has been a teacher all her life. The only complaint she has about the current state of affairs is that the school system has difficulty keeping up with the no child left behind program. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:43 AM The only reason the USA has issues with poverty is because they continue to eat too much fast food !! Cut back on the fast food, and everything else will take care of itself. It's so obvious, am I the only one who get's it ?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Janie Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:40 PM Dianavan: I agree with your "The key to success is internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams." statement. If that is the key then it is a lack of internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams that is the cause of poverty. Janie says it is a lack of resources and Bobert says it is Boss Hogg and ricjh folks whith their "stanglehold". If any of you do not agree with my interpretation of the message Bobert and Janie are sending to the poor, Let me know what their true message is. My remarks which follow are not addressed to Dickey. They are addressed to the rest of you. This is the game that Dickey plays. Dickey pretends that Bobert and I, and many others who are participating in this thread, are talking to the poor on this thread instead of to him. Dianavan has made a number of posts to this thread that articulately provide context for her recent statement. Dickey has willfully taken that statement out of context. Barry has beautifully and compellingly illustrated from his own hard experience that there is an interplay between the internal development and maintenance of hopes and dreams within the individual, and the social context in which the individual is imbedded. Dickey has ignored that. Dickey is not ignorant. Dickey is not deaf. Dickey is not blind. Dickey is not stupid. Dickey is stonewalling. I didn't start from that assumption, but a preponderence of the evidence supports that conclusion. There is no 'getting to yes' with the likes of Dickey. Dickey represents that part of the established power structure that KNOWS it is on top and will consciously, willfully, and with all deliberation do everything and anything it must to try to hang onto that power. Wordsmith, you're damn straight it's a minefield. It is the mindfield laid out to protect the wall. Janie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:50 PM I wholeheartedly agree with Dickey. I have read many of the posts on this thread and find many to be quite con-descending, to say the least. Especially those by Janie, and to a lesser degree, Barry Finn. To quote Janie... ' Barry has beautifully and compellingly illustrated from his own hard experience that there is an interplay between the internal development and maintenance of hopes and dreams within the individual, and the social context in which the individual is imbedded. Dickey has ignored that.' What exactly does THAT mean ??? I think Barry has over-simplified the issues relating to the obvious problems that exist in a 'multi-contextual' and diverse society. Dickey seems to be one of the few who totally understands the issues, and accepts the facts presented to him without trying to make excuses and twist said facts to suit his own arguements ! Bravo, Dickey. Boo to Janie and Barry!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Peace Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:53 PM Bullshit, AWG. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:09 PM Really, IS it?? :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: GUEST,meself Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:12 PM Well, you certainly belong in the same section of the bleachers as Dickey - where the spectators cheer one side and boo the other, and throw lots of garbage. If only it were a simple little game we were talking about ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:21 PM Sorry if it appears that way, GUEST,meself. Sounds like you are throwing garbage to me, Im just saying that Dickey has a grip on the issues, and accepts them, without the 'holier than thou' attitude. Actually, I find that refreshing. P.S. The comment about people eating too much fast food being the cause of poverty was un-called- for on my part, and only made to 'lighten the mood'. It was getting pretty serious, but I shouldn't have said that. I don't think (obviously) that is the cause of poverty in the USA, it's the cause of the obesity problem, which seems to be reaching epidemic-like proportions. Bye for now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Ebbie Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:56 PM "...made to 'lighten the mood'. It was getting pretty serious..." awg Heaven forfend that poverty should be treated as a serious subject. AWG, if you cannot tell the difference between rhetoric and hands-on experience, it might behoove you not to take sides. Only makes you look ignorant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Janie Date: 07 Apr 07 - 02:50 PM AWG, when you have 35 years experience that has encompassed every aspect of social work including direct practice with individuals and families, policy analysis, and academic research, or when you go get yourself born into a ghetto and live there for the first 15 years of your life, you come on back and tell Barry and I that we are not only condenscending but do not have any grasp of the issues. Janie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: GUEST,meself Date: 07 Apr 07 - 03:14 PM This is all I plan to say on this particular subject - but in amongst Dickey's numberless and copious cut-and-pastes he has raised a valid issue or two - but mainly what he has done is try to goad and score points off Bobert. He puts words in other people's mouths, then argues against those words, ignores half of what the others actually say because it doesn't fit his preconceptions of them or the issue under discussion. Unfortunately, people have been taking him more seriously than they should and have been trying to reason with him - eventually they get frustrated and say something intemperate, which he then jumps on it triumphantly. Like a bratty kid trying to get the better of the teacher. Look at the number of times he's talked about how we're all trying to give the message to the poor that someone else is to blame for their poverty - when no one has indicated anything at all about giving any kind of message to the poor about blaming anybody. What we have talked about is working with the poor and trying to help them onto their feet and out of poverty, and, yes, there has been considerable complaint about lack of funds for social welfare programs. I suppose Dickey thinks the poor are all avidly reading this thread and getting dagerous messages about who's to blame ... There has also been a lot of talk about self-defeating attitudes that are part of the cycle of poverty - then Dickey comes in and says in effect none of us want to admit that the poor have self-defeating attitudes. Then he lists a whack of statistics, and if someone responds to them, the next thing he does is claim that no one has responded to his statistics, or asks a question, and if someone answers it, he is soon declaring that no one has answered his question. It is apparent he has no interest in discussion, no interest in trying to reach any deeper understanding - which is why I gave up trying to respond to his posts way, way, way up the thread. Okay - I've wasted enough time ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: dianavan Date: 07 Apr 07 - 05:15 PM Dickey - What you fail to understand (or refuse to understand) is that it is the availability of resources and the access to education that provides the hopes and dreams. Hopes and dreams do motivate but basic needs must be met first. This is a great thread. I haven't read the article. "Can Poor People Be Taught to Save?" quite yet but I will. The title is enough to make me wretch. How can you save when you don't have enough for basic necessities? Thanks to Janie, Bobert, Barry and everyone who has thoughtfully contributed to this thread. Its been a good read. btw AWG - Before contributing, its a good idea to read the entire thread. You'll get a better idea about those who are sincere and those who have no insight or compassion. If you think Dickie is where its at, its no wonder you're concerned about fat. He's enough to make anyone bulimic or anorexic. Fast food is a problem but its not what is causing poverty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Bobert Date: 07 Apr 07 - 08:15 PM GUEST, meself, Yeah, you hit it purdy much on the head but not to worry... Dickey is serving a valuable purpose here... He represents the ruling class and without him we wouldn't have their ignorant "let them eat cake" attitudes... He serves a purpose... He doesn't frustrate me at all... All I gotta do is come here for 20 minutes a day, get caught up on the posts I haven't read and fire stuff off that comes from my 20 some years working in human services... Plus, I keep up with what's going down.... But Dickey is kinda outtta his league here and has to work very hard googlin' 'n scrathing his rightwing Boss Hog financed blogs and/or cherry picking thru lots of rather boring charts 'n graphs from various gov.coms... This, for him, is almost a full time job... Meanwhile, I have a rwal life... A real job... Real interests and hobbies... Plus, a regular perfroming scheduale so, hey, he doesn't frustrate me... I just call him on his games and move on but... I honestly am grateful to have him here 'cause if we didn't have him, we'd have to invent him... It really doesn't matter that he has bag of tricks... We've all seen them all... He doesn't have anything left in his trick bag that we haven't seen... It's now just Dickey being Dickey... Hey, there is no hiding that he is a shill for Boss Hog... He put up some fight when I first brought that up but with Dickey, if he doesn't see that one trick is working he moves on to the next and it' s been awile since he put up any fight on the charghe that I made that he is a "shill"... So, not to worry... He doesn't "goad" me... I "goad" him... I am comfortable with what I know because I've lived it... He hasn't so he has to google 'n scratch and work hard at this... I don't... I could debate him (without notes) in a public forum on this topic and tear him up 100 times out of a 100... No brag, just fact, 'cause he is a stats guy and I'm an experience guy... That what seperates us... Janie could put a good whup on him, too... She'd prolly take him 102 times outtta a 100... Now back to the discussion... Bobert p.s. Please don't leave, Dickey... We need you... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 08:26 PM Okay, its time to get serious for a change. Poverty IS an issue, not doubt about it. Can poor people be taught to save?? Some maybe, but most...of course not. Theyr'e too busy whining about being poor, while making excuse after excuse not to get a job. How can you teach someone to save when they dont even want to work ?? Self defeating attitudes ? Nice sound bite, but it equates to 'I feel sorry for myself, so Ill convince myself Im screwed for life, therefore maybe everyone else will feel sorry for me and give me handouts'. The answer to poverty is simple. Get a damn job !!!! You may think Im harsh or whatever, but the reality is most poor people are quite capable of working, so why don't they ? Is it easier to blame everyone else for your problems ? Is it easier to feel sorry for yourself ? You want to talk statistics ? How about 'the gap between rich and poor is growing, rich get richer, poor get poorer.' (dont have exact numbers, but you get the idea), why is this ? The answer is simple... Most rich people are highly motivated, most poor people are not. Thanks for listening (Im sure Ive done nothing more than anger people, at least those who refuse to accept the way it is). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: GUEST,meself Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:07 PM Well - you've sure told us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:11 PM Oh, and Peace. I noticed in your thread-opening post that you think Canada caused the poverty in the USA. Hmmmmm...how was that, how did we somehow convince a country 10 times our size (self-professed super power of the world, no less) that they should be lazy, and that it would be much more in their best interests to stay home with their hand out, rather than maybe, say, get a job. Please enlighten me... P.S. This forum must be mostly non-Canadians, as nobody has set you straight yet. (I repeat...YET) (dum dum) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Bobert Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:11 PM Save exaxctly what, AWG... Gross pay = $8.15 an hour Rent = $475 a month, plus electricity 3 kids, with dad off makin' more of them somewhere else and payin' $Zero$ into the equation... Working single mom with bus fare, child care, food... Nevermind entertainment 'casue their ain't no $$$ for that... You do the math, Einstein... Yeah, all it takes is a simple calculator... Show me the "save" in this very real scenerio... This is the real world we are dealing with here... Not Boss Hog's qworld but the real world... I'll offer you the same offer I made to yer comrade, Dickey... Get on an airplane to Washington, D.C. and I'll see to it that you meet the mother I just described... And guess what... There are millions of mothers just like her... Yeah, show me your math... No disrespect intended but you. like Dickey, are not living in the ***real*** (yeah, as in rality) world... Bobert p.s. Let me know when your flight arrives... I 'll pick you up for your persoanl tour of the D.C. that they don't show on the TV... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: dianavan Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:12 PM Oh no..... Not another spoiled brat who has never experienced poverty; who thinks people are poor because they're lazy! Ugh! I'm sure your folks made sure you were well fed and had a roof over your head. I'm also sure that you had access to education. Too bad you didn't learn to think critically. Maybe the reason you have no compassion for others is that you had everything given to you when you were a kid. Thats O.K. - live your life. Just don't judge those who were less fortunate than yourself, to be lower than you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:30 PM Note... Gross pay of $8.15 per hour constitutes poverty ?? I doubt it, but hey, if that's it, then lobby to have the minimum wage raised, (or work 2 jobs, my father did when I was a child). Just more excuses. And why is the lowest common denominator always a single mom ?????? 3 kids with a deadbeat dad ? Yeah, real winner. I have compassion for the children of these lazy adults. And Im sure if my parents were lazy, I would have been poorer in childhood, but they weren't. Now, I work and support myself. P.S. Everyone in my country has access to education, I thought you said you live in the US ?? Everything handed to me ????? Ive worked since I was 11 years old, paper routes, restaurants, etc. Nice try though. P.S. This thread is about poverty, how can you come up with a cause without judging someone ?? Lazy, Lazy, Lazy................ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:37 PM Looks like we got a new know it all troll on the block. A few days here & he's nearly worked himself up to 80 posts. Go get 'em kid. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Peace Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:38 PM Yes. Pull themselves up by their own boot straps, 'cept they got no boots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:50 PM Im sorry guys, Im still a fuming about Peace's comment about Canada causing the poverty in the US. *** AWG tries to cool down *** Why not tell me the reasons for poverty then, Dianavan and Bobert. Is it because the parents aren't working hard enough ?? Oh, they are working hard you say ?? Oh, but you say there are no jobs (I thought the 'mighty' USA had a 4.6% unemployment rate historically one of the lowest ever) The economy is slow, you say ? Check the statistics, positive growth rate , low inflation, low unemployment, just check your stock markets lately, lots of wealth being created. Unfortunately, its only by the few. Why ? Because they WANT it. Lazy adults = poor adults = poor children, and the cycle continues. Unless people stop the cycle, and I hate to break it to you, but the government couldn't give a rats behind about the poor, except at election time. People have to get off their asses and help themselves!! NOW who's living in reality ?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:03 PM Well then Barry, sorry, I didn't realize it was frowned upon to refrain from following the herd, you know, having my own opinion. Next time, Ill just agree with everyone. That way, these threads will remain safe, happy, and ....BORING. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:03 PM Thanks, that was so enlightening. Read the thread through before spouting off, Johnny come Lately! Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Dickey Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:20 PM To all: When someone speaks about poor people, children, old people, any group that has ears. They get a message from what is said. I asked what message was being sent. All I heard was more blaming So I stated what I interpreted the message from all that blame game to be. For instance if you say kids are not able to learn to read until they are 5 years old you are limiting them. When you tell poor prople they can't succeed because of this and that, you are not only limiting them but telling them it is futile to try to get out of poverty. Welfare is best for them. I say give them hope and encouragement. Have faith in them and they will do better. Keep showing the way to self improvement and success. Treat them like they are helpless without welfare and they will always be helpless and need welfare. I think it is condescending and insulting to poor people. And I don't need a guided tour of my home town. Am I supposed to leave town and take an airplane trip back? From a Blog: TKCal If you were truly an enlightened person as you claim to be, you would take the time to notice everyone's input in the breakdown of African American relationships. Take the time to examine the persona of women. Our parents in the past, taught the daughters not to give up sex to a man with no wedding and no foundations layed for himself and tried to teach the sons to stand up straight in spite of the obstacles. Why is it that the males have a harder time getting around those obsticles. If a person can't make it in this world it is their fault and noone else's. Women are not responsible for men's choices and vice versa. When you grow up and leave your mother, quit trying to find another one. Stand on your own two feet and learn to surmount the obsticles. It's not anyone's responsibility to do it for you. We don't take the time to tell our kids that the obsticles are layed out to everyone in the attempt to keep a wide gap between the rich and the poor and has very little to do with race. We take that issue upon ouselves and the "powers that be" are laughing because we are running ourselves into the ground with our own self hatred so much that it clouds our thoughts and makes it hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Let's start teaching our kids(especially our sons) not to get so hung up on the system and help them to learn to plow right through it with a thick skin and not get the mind-set to look for someone else to carry them through life." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:40 PM Great point Dickey !! I'll give them some encouragement. Get a job or starve. How's that?? Hey Barry, Dickey could debate circles around you, by the looks of it !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:47 PM "When you tell poor prople they can't succeed because of this and that, you are not only limiting them but telling them it is futile to try to get out of poverty." Dickey can you please site this quote? Where has anyone told poor people they can not succeed. That may be your interpretation but that's, again, not what's been said. Where has anyone said they were helpless or that welfare is best for them? Whew, I give up Dickey, you're on the right track with hope & encourgement & that's has been stated here already but it goes much further than just that but I guess you haven't been following what's been said. Good bye Dickey. Barry Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Peace Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:55 PM "Get a job or starve." I hope you realize what you just said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 10:59 PM You know, I've been following this thread and have noticed a rather disturbing trend. The subject is 'Poverty in the USA'. Fine, but when someone (like poor Dickey, or myself) tries to give their opinion, everyone jumps down their throat (Barry, for instance). Just because you don't like an opinion, you must respect it, right? But you know what, I see a lot of 'I used to work here or there, and have observed this or that, etc etc, but never any opinions from anyone else as to possible solutions or reasons for the poverty in the USA. It seems people just want to tap-dance around the issue, give their resume, or whatever, but when the finger pointing starts, its never at the people responsible, just at other forum members who have an opinion some people don't like (God forbid you should call poor people 'lazy'). Not much of a discussion. Dickey, keep your chin up !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:02 PM Hey Peace, just being facecious. It was more directed at those un-willing to work, not the unfortunate casualties of said 'non-workers' (is that a word ?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: dianavan Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:07 PM AWG says, "Why not tell me the reasons for poverty then, Dianavan and Bobert." Its pretty obvious, AWG, that you have not read our comments on this thread. Before you jump in, it's considered good manners to know what is being said. I certainly do not need a lecture on learned helplessness. What you fail to understand is that it is children who learn this and they learn it because it is all around them. The cycle will not be broken unless meaningful programs are put in place to give them hope and encouragement. btw - I'm from Canada and you cannot tell me that post-secondary education is free to everyone. Some people have parents who pay and others rack up huge student loan debts. I'm glad I was not one of the people who welcomed you. I despise ignorance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:22 PM Hello, Dianavan, how are you ? Please allow me to make a few points if I may...1) You said alot but never gave any valid reasons for poverty in the USAj, 2) Why not show some manners to me and give me a quick briefing then, or I guess I could read 500 posts, before jumping down my throat for having an opinion, 3) To quote you, 'What you fail to understand is that it is children who learn this and they learn it because it is all around them. The cycle will not be broken unless meaningful programs are put in place to give them hope and encouragement.' How about a program to get their parents a job?, that's a start, and it won't burden the already over-taxed American people. Nothing gives a child more hope and encouragement than parents who WORK. 4) Who said post-secondary education was free, not I, I said everyone has access to education (you indicated they didn't). And if their parents pay, they aren't poor, are they? 6) You didn't welcome me ?!?!? That hurts.:( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Dickey Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:25 PM This is more of a blame game rather than a debate about the causes. One person says "Like I said, it ain't rocket science..." Another says "The internal and external determinants that govern the visibility of options, the reality of options and the nature of options is so complex that somebody could, and probably has, written a number of books about them." Will the real expert stand up? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: pdq Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:31 PM Is it too late for me to welcome you, AWG? We need a few more original thinkers here at Mudcat and you seem to be a breath of fresh air. Welcome. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Peace Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:32 PM I prefer the short-winded guy because they both said the same thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: GUEST,meself Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:33 PM Much as it pains me to say it - Dickey has made a funny ... ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:11 AM Dickie's my hero !! Go Dickey !!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: dianavan Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:32 AM AWG - I'm not going to repeat myself. Read what I have already said and you will have your answers. If you don't understand it, read what Barry or Bobert or Janie have said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:37 AM Can't nobody here stop you. According to the commercials, can't nobody stop the coppertop bunny, either. but who cares. It's just a robot. Actually, Janie, its a rabbit, the 'energizer', not 'coppertop' rabbit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Janie Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:43 AM That's real important, AWG. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:51 AM Let me start with a quote form Peace....'Tryin' to explain poverty to some people is like tryin' to explain quantum physics to a dog. After a while it is just plain irritating!' Ive actually had some time to catch up on some prior posts on this thread. You know, Ive seen a lot of 'Dickie bashing', for no apparent reason, Janie has issues, serious issues (plus a thing for Barry, apparently), and Bobert talks a lot, but says little (if you know what I mean), no disrespect intended to anyone. However, I saw very little in the way of substance (not including Dickie), and a lot of 'finger-pointing'. Bottom line is, if something isn't done soon, this problem is going to be a BIG problem, so stop the finger pointing and let's hear some ANSWERS (please). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 02:55 AM Oh, by the way, nice cop-out Dianavan. 'look back and you shall have ye answers', cute. Way to not take a stand. Typical. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: dianavan Date: 08 Apr 07 - 03:24 AM AWG - From my first post on this thread: "To stop the cycle of poverty, we must also insure that childcare is available and that minimum wage is increased. We can certainly do better. The only thing stopping us is greed." ...and ignorance! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:56 AM Very nice Dianavan, spend some more of the taxpayer's money. That sort of thinking is why the USA is where it is today, and why they are well on their way to fiscal ruin !! I agree about the greed comment, though. But that just goes back to my original point. Most poor people feel they need a handout, why is that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Bobert Date: 08 Apr 07 - 10:18 AM Seems as if some folks like to jump into discussions who have no earthly clue about the what is being talked about... Why should I, Barry, Janie or anyone else who has made an investment of time and sharing here have to reteach "Bonehead Causes of Poverty 001, (non-credit, remedial" to folks who are too lazy or too arrogant to actually have to read this entire thread before jumping in with blind and ***ignorant*** accusations... Like d said, that's is rude... Not to mention borish... At least Dickey has been involved since the beginning and has demonstarted that he knows what has been said here in this thread... The ***new shills*** are clueless and haven't made much of an attempt to hide it... Well, yeah, they have as much right to participate as anyone else but if they had any idea of just what fools they have shown themselves to be by demonstarting they haven't done their homework here and not done the ***suggested reading, i.e. this thread", they would be some ashammed they'd have to sit at their computers with bags over their heads... So my suggestion for the Dickey ***cheerleaders*** is, ahhhh, read the danged thread... Or not... Make fools of yerselves... It's a free world here in Mudville... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 10:51 AM Nice rant, feel better now ?? As far as Im concerned, this thread contains a lot of babbling, but not much in the way of solutions. Mostly bashing other forum members (sound familiar, Bobert). The only fools are those who try to squash another's views, and offer non of their own ! But hey, like you said, it's a free world. Babble away !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Barry Finn Date: 08 Apr 07 - 11:00 AM Beware the new pest! Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 11:03 AM Nice comment on poverty, Barry. Way to stick to the subject. I see you are bored this morning and looking to 'stir the pot' a bit, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: Bobert Date: 08 Apr 07 - 11:05 AM How would you know what this thread contains, my friend... You admitted on another thread that you hadn't read this thread before jumping in... The "babbler" to anyone who has been in this thread since the beginning ain't me, pal, it's you... Now back to the discussion because until you have demonstrated that you are up to speed I will treat you just like any of the other trolls her in the Catbox and ignore your ignorance... No rant, just fact... Boberte |
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Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA From: AWG Date: 08 Apr 07 - 11:17 AM Bobert, I said I haven't read the ENTIRE thread, boy you don't listen well. By the way, back to what discussion ?? Nobody has been discussing anything about poverty since I offered my opinion yesterday. Just a fact. |
