BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 16 - 03:50 AM

By the way
"some think he made "racist" remarks 14 years ago and apologised for them 10 years ago"
If he apologised for them 10 years ago he must have said them 14 years (sic) ago so there's no "some people think" about anything - he said what he said making him what he is.
You really are inarticulate in your desperation to appease racism, aren't you?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 16 - 02:44 AM

"Are you being deliberately obtuse Shaw, or are you just incapable of comprehension?"
No need to ask whether you are being your arrogant fascist self!
What have you been told about speaking down to people from your hole in the ground
Johnson is a serial racist - his racist attack on Obama happened in 2009 -, not 14 years ago- maths seems to be another of your mental black holes.
Yes - it is obvious why Johnson was appointed to the post - to clear the way for Theresa May's election as PM.
Why else would a knuckles-along-the-ground racist, sexist, semi-articulate moron be appointed to such a position?   
It's fascinating to watch a couple of Empire Loyalist flag waggers running around like a couple of blue-arsed cockroaches, on the one had desperately defending the appointment of a racist foreign secretary while, at the same time still claiming institution racism in the Labour Party long after the rest of the world have walked away from it - even The Jewish Chronicle.
Still silent on the Tories total failure to carry out an investigation into Islamophobia!!!!
Back to the kitchen, Kitchener.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Aug 16 - 02:44 AM

Steve Shaw - 04 Aug 16 - 04:46 PM

"I don't, but we do know a few names of those Labour people guilty of antisemitic outbursts."

No-one has named names

Roughly 50 Labour Party members were suspended, we do not know the names of all of them but we know the following 10%:

Naz Shah
Shah Hussain
Salim Mullah
Ilyas Aziz
Ken Livingston

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Aug 16 - 02:24 AM

Greg F. - 04 Aug 16 - 06:02 PM

Certainly not Greg F. - but your responses have perfectly proved what I have always known about you, and those like you on this forum - you are all bloody good kids when it comes to dishing it out, but you squeal like stuck pigs the instant that you feel you are on the receiving end.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Aug 16 - 02:13 AM

Steve Shaw - 04 Aug 16 - 04:13 PM

"Come off it. You are saying quite clearly that Labour's woes are worse because they are current and that Boris's woes are less important because they were a while ago. What a completely ludicrous argument, even for you."

Are you being deliberately obtuse Shaw, or are you just incapable of comprehension?

What I am have been demonstrating is that as far as some are concerned for a Labour MP who has in the past, by her own admission, made racist remarks a simple apology is enough to wipe the slate clean and allows her to resume her career in politics with her reputation unblemished. Different thing entirely for those same people on this forum however if the politician happens to be from the Conservative Party he must be barred from holding any Office because some think he made "racist" remarks 14 years ago and apologised for them 10 years ago. If you cannot see the difference in the treatment being handed out in those two cases Shaw then you are beyond all hope.

Back on the subject of the thread, there was a very good reason why Theresa May appointed Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary and it has obviously escaped the notice of the likes of you, Raggy and Jom. Boris Johnson led the Brexit "Leave" campaign in the UK - As the UK's Foreign Secretary, after the UK's Prime Minister, he, Boris Johnson will be the UK's main representative in the EU Council of Ministers until the time we come to actually leave.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 08:43 PM

Yes, his recent rather respectable links haven't exactly helped Keith, have they? Fancy coming over to the dark side, bobad? We're all fluffy bunnies, you know! 😈🐇🐇🐇

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 08:32 PM

Laugh's on you, Bubo.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 06:38 PM

Heh, heh!

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 06:02 PM

I know Greg F. but don't worry you'll get used to it

So, T-Bird, you're ADMITTING that you're a lying piece of dirt?

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 04:46 PM

"I don't, but we do know a few names of those Labour people guilty of antisemitic outbursts."

No-one has named names, no-one has declared that any individual is antisemitic and you allege big cover-ups (do you actually know what "cover-up" means, Keith? It means that you don't know the facts because THEY HAVE BEEN HIDDEN FROM YOU), yet Keith The Superior Being, Keith the Judge, Jury and Executioner, knows things that no-one else knows! Let's face it, you alleged Christian. You are in breach of the Word of the Lord. Judge not, lest YOU be judged. Not only that, you are judging according to arbitrary criteria drawn up by you and your fellow travellers on the far right and from the ranks of the apologists for the Israeli regime. You know damn well that, in their heart of hearts, not ONE of the people in Labour who you brand as antisemitic "hates Jews because they are Jews." You have a very dishonest political agenda, which is to blacken the Labour Party, which you hate, at all costs. This is your thread and all that is contained in the thread title and in your opening post. You are the most dishonest person I've ever come across, and that's a tough call considering who your pathetic allies are in this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 04:13 PM

Come off it. You are saying quite clearly that Labour's woes are worse because they are current and that Boris's woes are less important because they were a while ago. What a completely ludicrous argument, even for you.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 04:01 PM

Steve Shaw - 04 Aug 16 - 03:54 PM

"Current?" What has that got to do with it?

Everything and you would know that had you read the recommendations put forward by Shami Chakrabarti.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:56 PM

Greg F. - 04 Aug 16 - 03:01 PM

"So Bubo & T-Bird: - stll no facts or substantion, just lying accusations, insults and bullshit."

I know Greg F. but don't worry you'll get used to it - myself, bobad, akenaton and Keith A have been having to put up with it for years now.... 😂😂😂

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:54 PM

"Current?" What has that got to do with it? If "current" trumps "historic," we'd still be watching Jim'll Fix It repeats on children's telly! 😂😂😂 As for Tory cover-ups, well watch this bloody space!

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:22 PM

"Did he Jom?"
Yes he did Adolph
None of your ramblings show otherwise - especially as onec againn, you didn't link anything.
Back to your looking after the General
"No-one ever claimed that."
You claimed a serious problem then you went on to claiming a cover up
Sounds pretty "institution" to me if the institution is "covering it up"
It now transpiring that they were "covering up" the fact that there was no major problem and what little was discovered was not worth a mention in the Jewish Chronicle artificial - now why do yuo think they "covered that up"?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:01 PM

From: bobad - PM
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:32 PM
You beat me to it.

From: Teribus - PM
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:23 PM
No Greg F. miniature mind.

So Bubo & T-Bird: - stll no facts or substantion, just lying accusations, insults and bullshit.

As always, no surprises there!

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 02:48 PM

"He described Obama's supposed dislike of Britain as being because his father was from Kenya"

Did he Jom?

Here is the BBC's take on it:

"A Churchill bust lent to President George Bush by Tony Blair was removed from the Oval Office along with other art lent to the Bush presidency after Mr Obama's 2009 inauguration "as is common practice at the end of every presidency", the White House said at the time.

A separate bust of Britain's wartime leader, that has been in the White House since the early 1960s, remains on display.

Mr Johnson said in his article: "No-one was sure whether the president had himself been involved in the decision", adding: "Some said it was a snub to Britain. Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan president's ancestral dislike of the British Empire - of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender."

"SOME SAID" - Boris Johnson is merely reported possible reasons GIVEN BY OTHERS to explain the removal of the bust from the Oval Office. At no time at all did Boris Johnson say that HE THOUGH OR BELIEVED that.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 02:42 PM

Keep digging professor Racist.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 02:06 PM

"Rubbish. London has a staunchly Labour"
Over the last fifteen years the percentage turnout in the General election had been 60 to seventy percent - no indication of the racist views of the people who vote.
Boris Johnson can't be a racist because he was elected as Mayor - what another incredibly stupid argument
So was Ken Livingstone.
As I said London is the most racist city I have ever lived in
Johnson is a racist
He described Obama's supposed dislike of Britain as being because his father was from Kenya - racist racial stereotyping, as editor, he accepted an article claiming black people have lower I.Qs, racist appeasement, and he referred to Piccaninnys with watermelon smiles - use of an accepted racist term percieved as such since as far as the 1960 in Britain.
The crass argument that this is only by Americans is a stupid one by our resident Walter Mitty as Johnson chose American imagery to make his racist insult - WATERMELON SMILE - is a deliberate racist stereotype.
"Great news - The report that Labour tried to suppress has been revealed!"
Great news - it doesn't reveal any serious Antisemitism either in examples nor in numbers.
So seroious did the Jewish Chronicle consider it that they didn';t bother to publish any incidents - serious or otherwise and they referred to only "some" - not tens hundreds, thousands... just some, which has been the point peole have been making.
The bit Keith left out was Royall's comment:
"The report that Labour tried to suppress has been revealed!"
Wonder why?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:46 PM

in the case of Boris Johnson 14 years in order to make their case.

And then fail to make it!

Neither report claims institutional antisemitism,

No-one ever claimed that.

neither report claims concerted or deliberate antisemitism

Yes they do.

and neither report NAMES NAMES.

You approve of that?
I don't, but we do know a few names of those Labour people guilty of antisemitic outbursts.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:33 PM

Steve Shaw - 04 Aug 16 - 12:00 PM

"Which is precisely what has happened apropos of "antisemitism" in the Labour Party"

Apart from the fact that Labour's anti-Semitism row is current and involves a deliberate "cover-up" on the part of the NEC. While to show that the Conservative Party is just as bad if not worse the usual suspects here and those in the Labour Party have to go back in one case 31 years and in the case of Boris Johnson 14 years in order to make their case.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:32 PM

You beat me to it.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:23 PM

Greg F. - 04 Aug 16 - 12:54 PM

No Greg F. miniature mind.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:11 PM

Oops, my 12.09 post was aimed at the wrong person. Apologies for that. Clearly I was referring to Teribus's overt allegiances.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 01:06 PM

Well, Keith, so what's new? 😂 She said:

... it was "not clear" if incidents were deliberately anti-Semitic, and there was "no value in pursuing disciplinary cases" against students who could simply benefit from training.

However, she warned: "There should be no doubt that any more complaints may lead to further disciplinary action."

I'd say a well-deserved slap on the wrist, wouldn't you, Keith? Neither report claims institutional antisemitism, neither report claims concerted or deliberate antisemitism and neither report NAMES NAMES. Bit of tabloid non-news sensationalism bigged up by the Jewish Chronicle, eh, Keith? Well who'd have thought it! 😂

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:54 PM

Make that "time" and "hone". miniature keyboard.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:53 PM

Greg, are you saying that you do not support or defend Hamas?

No, professor, I'm saying that T-bird's lying claim that I "support Hamas" is complete bullshit. Timwe to home your English language comprehension skills.

Now, as for the rest of your drivel, as I've said before, I'm not going to play your childish games.

Time for your nap.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:48 PM

"WE" are waiting Greg F. ?? That the "royal" we?

No, T-Bird, that's a first-person, plural personal pronoun (nominative case).

RE-read 03 Aug 16 - 08:49 AM this time for comprehansion.

So you have nothing to substantiate your original,lying, bullshit claim. No surprise there.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:37 PM

"There is too often a real, sometimes perceived, culture of intolerance where Jews are concerned and there are clear incidents of antisemitism"
http://www.savelabourparty.com/labour-probe-finds-anti-semitism-at-oxford-university-left-jewish-members-intimidated/

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:20 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/report-labour-tried-keep-secret-8551170

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:14 PM

Great News.
The report that Labour tried to suppress has been revealed!

Daily Mirror,
"In the full 13-page report, leaked to the Jewish Chronicle, she wrote: "It is clear to me from the weight of witnessed allegations received that there have been some incidents of antisemitic behaviour and that it is appropriate for the disciplinary procedures of our party to be invoked."

"Her introduction, also not released, added: "I was dismayed and ashamed that the ancient virus of anti-Semitism had infected our party." "

"Baroness Royall's report expressed "regret" that incidents were not reported at the time because of a "lack of an effective complaints procedure".

And it said: "Some Jewish members do not feel comfortable attending the meetings, let alone participating." "

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:09 PM

Go on Greg, tell 'im. After all, he throws his toys out the pram every time someone attacks his beloved Maggie, and we now know that he's Augusto's numero uno fan! Don't you just love a man who's so open!

Of course, we could just tell him that we support and defend the ordinary people of both Palestine and Israel, wishing them peace, security and prosperity, and lament the fact that they've both got stinking rotten regimes... I'm reminded of all those inane interviewers in the 1980s who used to bray at Gerry Adams to get him to "condemn the IRA." The world is so black and white, isn't it, Teribus? 😂

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 12:00 PM

...it would appear that the remarks were only "racist" and "offensive" to those who sought to gain political capital by portraying them as being "racist" and "offensive".

Which is precisely what has happened apropos of "antisemitism" in the Labour Party, in that case the whole thing blown out of proportion by right-wing and pro-Israel factions both inside and outside the Labour Party in order to gain political capital.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 11:47 AM

The remarks would have been racist and offensive if someone had thought so when they first appeared in print, They didn't though did they? The remarks were dragged up as part of Ken Livingston's attempt to smear Boris Johnson in the election to the position of Mayor of London years later so it would appear that the remarks were only "racist" and "offensive" to those who sought to gain political capital by portraying them as being "racist" and "offensive".

Funny isn't it that the person who complained out Boris being "racist" and "offensive" proved to be not beyond being racist and offensive himself to the extent that by being so he was suspended from the Labour Party as he had brought that political party into disrepute.

By the way who is in denial about what? The plain truth is that Labour's NEC ordered an inquiry into anti-Semitism and found the resulting report too embarrassing to allow its contents to be made public - so they buried it.

It would appear that for you and your pals it is perfectly OK for someone in the Labour Party, who is a self-confessed racist, to get off the hook by making an apology - but a Conservative who made remarks in 2002 that were belatedly deemed by some to be "racist" and "offensive" and for which that person apologised for any offence caused about ten years ago now should not be eligible for any post in Government, That Raggy, is what I call bare-faced hypocrisy.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 11:44 AM

Greg, are you saying that you do not support or defend Hamas?
Will you say that now?

Why have you never once criticised Hamas?
You criticise Israel all the time.
Why do you treat them so differently?

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 11:41 AM

Rag,
Johnson apologised for using the term, why would he do that if it wasn't racist and offensive.

He only apologised for any offence, as politicians always do.

He acknowledge the word was racist

He did not! You are making shit up Rag.
He denied any racism.

Keep digging.

No need.
You have been buried.
You have produced nothing to show that the P word is racist outside USA, because you can't.

Now, will you explain your own apparent antisemitism Rag.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 10:32 AM

Why do you type "racist" and "offensive" instead of racist and offensive.

Someone else in denial perhaps.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 10:19 AM

"And he apologised for that and for any offence caused. Now while it appears to be enough for Labour MPs to escape censure for causing offence and making "racist" remarks by apologising - that is not acceptable if you happen to be a Conservative ("One sauce for the Goose another for the Gander" - So much for "equality eh Raggy)"

Tell your mate who is in denial over this.

PS It's not "racist" it's racist.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 10:10 AM

Raggytash - 04 Aug 16 - 09:32 AM

As I said earlier Teri, as Editor Johnson was ultimately responsible for articles printed in the Spectator.

He allowed a racist and offensive article to be printed so he must carry the can.

And he apologised for that and for any offence caused. Now while it appears to be enough for Labour MPs to escape censure for causing offence and making "racist" remarks by apologising - that is not acceptable if you happen to be a Conservative ("One sauce for the Goose another for the Gander" - So much for "equality eh Raggy).

"As to the other article it matter not one jot that it was about the Queen or the Commonwealth. Johnson used a word that was racist and offensive.

He issued an apology for the use of the word. FULL STOP. No if's, no but's, no maybe's. He acknowledge the word was racist and offensive."

Well that is not really true is it Raggy:

1: Written in 2002 nobody objected to the article at the time - that would come years later.

2: He did apologise for any offence caused but in making that apology he did state that what had been written had been taken out of context and that in content and in context what he had written was neither "racist" or "offensive".

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:58 AM

Well, Keith-the-prosecutor-judge-and-jury-man who stated that Naz Shah was antisemitic, would you kindly note that even Haaretz only refers to "accusations of antisemitism" and "reported antisemitism" and does not pin the badge on anyone, as you have unjustifiably done (I also note with amusement that MPs are now "lawmakers" according to Haaretz, twice, but we'll let that pass). Anyway, cheers to bobad for producing material that should help Keith to moderate his tone, not for the first time either! 😂

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:35 AM

"WE" are waiting Greg F. ??

That the "royal" we?

What is it that you are waiting for? Answers to specific questions? Substantiation of something said?

If so Greg F. I would like to remind you and your pals that you have got quite a back-log of your own to clear first - I'll wait for that to be done first.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:32 AM

As I said earlier Teri, as Editor Johnson was ultimately responsible for articles printed in the Spectator.

He allowed a racist and offensive article to be printed so he must carry the can.

As to the other article it matter not one jot that it was about the Queen or the Commonwealth. Johnson used a word that was racist and offensive.

He issued an apology for the use of the word. FULL STOP. No if's, no but's, no maybe's. He acknowledge the word was racist and offensive.

It would seem there are two people who do not recognise this truth.

However I am enjoying watching the professor dig a deeper and deeper hole.

Carry on professor !! Keep digging !!

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:22 AM

From Haaretz today:

REUTERS - The number of anti-Semitic incidents in Britain rose by 11 percent in the first six months of the year reflecting a worrying trend of intolerance across the country, a Jewish advisory body said on Thursday.

The Community Security Trust, which advises Britain's estimated 260,000 Jews on security matters, recorded 557 incidents from January until June, the second highest number for the first period of a year since it started collecting figures in 1984.

The year-on-year rise comes at a time when politicians and police have warned about growing levels of hate crimes since Britons voted to leave the European Union on June 23, with Muslims and Eastern Europeans particularly targeted, although the CST said it had not seen a spike after the referendum.

It also follows accusations of anti-Semitism against figures in the opposition Labour Party.

"This rise in reported anti-Semitism comes at a time when division, intolerance and prejudice appear to be deepening within our society," said CST Chief Executive David Delew.

"Reversing this worrying trend requires real leadership from all political parties, and for the social media companies to take their share of the responsibility."

In its report, the CST said the average monthly number of hate incidents directed at the Jewish community was now almost double that recorded in 2011-13.

Social media was the medium for almost a quarter of all incidents and had become an "essential tool" for campaigns of anti-Semitic harassment aimed at Jewish public figures and politicians.

One Labour Jewish lawmaker, Luciana Berger, reported in April she had received thousands of online abusive messages including threats to rape her.

The CST said most of the occurrences took place in April, May and June when anti-Semitism was in the news with Berger's disclosure and Labour launching an inquiry into whether the party had a problem in its ranks ranging from a former London Mayor to Oxford University students.

"The message should go out to everyone that we will not stand for anti-Semitism. Perpetrators of hate crimes against Jews will be caught and prosecuted and the bystanders must be educated," said lawmaker John Mann, chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group Against Antisemitism.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:22 AM

Raggytash - 04 Aug 16 - 04:51 AM

You are drawing attention to two completely different things.

The IQ thing was something that someone else wrote that appeared in the Spectator while Boris Johnson was it's Editor.

The other instance which when put in context referred to the Queen, the Commonwealth and children waving flags was written by Boris Johnson and he penned that in 2002. As Keith A states no-one objected to it at that time, and it was only dragged to smear Johnson in the London Mayoral election by Ken Livingston - where the electorate of London were so incensed by Johnsons "racist" remarks that they elected him not once but twice.

There is a thread above the line about a Ewan MacColl cartoon that has appeared in Private Eye - There is a link to it showing the cartoon. Those who are minded enough to, could quite easily claim the cartoon to be "racist" and offensive pandering as it appears to, to racial stereotypes. Certainly more "racist" than anything Boris Johnson has said.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:14 AM

Yet more denial professor.

Johnson apologised for using the term, why would he do that if it wasn't racist and offensive.

However keep digging, each time you express your support for the use of the word it merely shouts out I AM A RACIST !

As I say please keep digging, it's very amusing.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:10 AM

Rag,
Keep digging.

No need.
You have been buried.
You have produced nothing to show that the P word is racist outside USA, because you can't.

Now, will you explain your own apparent antisemitism Rag.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 08:34 AM

RE: 03 Aug 16 - 08:49 AM

We're still waiting, T-Bird.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 07:13 AM

1. Denial again.

2. The Editor of a publication is ultimately responsible for the content.

However

Keep digging.

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 07:06 AM

So what?
Ihe first link had already been discussed and does not establish any racism at all, so what is your point?
The second link was about something else altogether that Johnson did not even write!

Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 06:47 AM

Have you forgotten already, you really are confused.

"Your link 1 does not have that headline and is not about the P word"

Keep digging