Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:49 AM My Sombrero Tune: Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye
My sister Belinda, she pissed out the winda,
Aye, aye, aye, aye, me and my soggy sombrero,
My sister Margarita, she come all excreta,
Aye, aye, aye, aye, me and my shitty sombrero,
My girlfriend Maria, she's got gonorrhea,
Aye, aye, aye, aye, me and my blobby dickero,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 22 Oct 01 - 12:01 AM As long as John Peel is near by,in this thread, here is another to that marvelous tune. A very similar version is listed in the DT as The Finest Fucking Family however, this one is different enough to be unto its own.
My Sister Lily Tune: Do You Ken John Peel
Oh, my little sister Lily is a whore in Picadilly,
ALT:
There's a man deep in a dungeon, with his hand upon his truncheon,
There's a little green urinal, to the north of Waterloo,
Have you met my Uncle Hector, he's a cock and ball inspector,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 21 Oct 01 - 11:54 PM Personally, I like the version in the DT much better; but here is another rendering.
Gay Caballero Tune: ???
I am a gay young caballero,
I met a gay young señorita,
I went to a wise surgeano,
And now I'm a sad Cabellero,
At night as I lie on my pillow,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 20 Oct 01 - 07:09 AM Some additional verses to the original classic found here within the DT.
Cats on the Rooftops Tune: Do Ye Ken John Peel
CHORUS:
The Australian lady who, when she wants to find a mate.
The labors of the poofter find but little favor here.
The dainty little skylark sings a very pretty song,
The lady by the seaside was feeling very blue,
The poor old rhinoceros, so it appears,
The poor old desert camel has no water for a week,
Little Mary Johnson will be seventeen next July,
When you wake up in the morning with a devil of a stand,
When you wake up in the morning with a surge of sexual joy,
The Regimental Sergeant Major leads a miserable life,
The ape is small and rather slow,
The flea disports among the trees,
The elephant's prick is big and round,
The orangutan is a colorful sight,
The oyster is a paragon of purity,
The wild boar in the mud all day,
Now a funny old fish is the old sperm whale,
Now I met a girl and she was a rear,
A thousand verses all in rhyme,
The owls in the trees and cats on the tiles,
Poor old Mr. Bengelstein, whose morals we doubt,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 10:13 AM Perfect for the UcLa programers on your rugby team
King of the Nerds Tune: King of the Road
Theorems to prove or not,
I work hard on my code at nights,
I know every engineer on every mainframe,
You know I watch Star Treck, TNG,
Ah, but cheap beer and take-out foods,
And I'm King of the Nerds.
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 10:11 AM b>Keyhole Song Tune: ???
The party ended early,
She sat down by the fireside,
If only she would take it off,
Oh the keyhole, keyhole, keyhole,
With soft and trembling fingers,
Oh the keyhole, keyhole, keyhole,
That night I slept in rapture,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 06:01 AM Poor Lil (Version 2) Tune: Same meter as Eskimo Nell
She was the best our camp produced
'Twas a standing bet around our town,
But down from the north came Yukon Pete,
We all knew Lil had met her fate
When all the boys could get a seat
She tried the twist and the double bunt
At last poor Lil just had to stop,
The sod was ripped for miles around
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 06:00 AM Poor Lil (Version 1) Tune: ???
Her name was Lil and she was a beauty,
She was young and she was fair,
Day be day her form grew thinner,
Now clothes may make a gal go far
She went to the house physician
She took to treatments in the sun,
For you must know her clientel-le
As Lillian lay in her dishonor,
This is the story of Lillian,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:59 AM Poor Little Angeline Tune: ???
She was sweet sixteen and the village queen,
At the village fair, the Squire was there,
Now the village Squire had a low desire,
As she lifted her skirt to avoid the dirt,
So he raised his hat and said, "Miss, your cat,
Now the filthy old turd should have got the bird,
They had not gone far when he stopped his car,
When he'd oiled her well, he took her to a dell,
With a cry of "Rape," he raised his cape,
Now the story is told of a blacksmith bold,
But sad to say, that very same day
Now the window of his cell overlooked the dell,
Now he got such a start that he let out a fart,
When he got the spot and saw what was what,
"Oh blacksmith true, I love you, I do.
Not it won't take long to finish this song,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:58 AM A fun playful one, I like it better than Cy,yi,yi,Yi's lymerics, by the third week everyone begins to have verses.
Poetry Song Tune: Chorus from "The Little Brown Jug"
Chorus:
Verses:
Little Miss Muffet,
Little Miss Muffet,
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Old mother Hubbard
There once was an old lady
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe
Little Boy Blew,
Old mother Hubbard went to the cupboard,
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill
Jack and Jill
Jack and Jill
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill went up the hill,
Jack and Jill
Jack and Jill
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Jack and Jill
Jack be nimble,
Jack was nimble
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little sheep,
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little watch,
Mary had a little lamb;
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb,
Mary had a little lamb
Little Willie, full of glee,
Little Willie with a thirst for gore
Little Willie,
The birds may kiss the bees goodbye,
Oh give me a home, where the buffalo roam,
A man's occupation
Roses are violet
Roses are red
Roses are red
Roses are red
Roses are red
Roses are red
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:56 AM Pioneers Tune: Son of a Gambolier
The pioneers have hairy ears,
When cunt is rare they fuck a bear,
They take their ass upon the grass
Without remorse they fuck a horse
To make a mule stand for the tool
Great joy they reap from bugg'ring sheep,
When booze is rare, they do not care,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:34 PM Did You Ever See Tune: ???
Oh, I got an Aunty Sissy,
CHORUS:
I've got a cousin Daniel,
Oh, I've got a cousin Rupert,
Oh, I've got a cousin Anna,
Oh, I've got a brother Mike,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:32 PM Davy Cockhead Tune: Davy Crockett
Down in the valley where the black grass grows,
CHORUS:
Three months past and all was well,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:29 PM Posted into the Britania thread, is a great song for audience participation, simple enough that the most drunken of footballers can sing it.
Rule Britannia Tune: Rule Britannia
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam,
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG!
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam, BANG, BANG, BANG!
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam, BANG, BANG!
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam, BANG!
Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the seas,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:25 PM How this one has escaped the DT, for this long, is beyond me.
Rub-A-Dee-Dub Tune: The Scotsman
Now the baker's boy to the mart he went,
Now the baker's boy was cunning and wise,
Now the butcher's wife was much alarmed,
Now the baker's boy was filled with joy,
Now in the 'morn when he awoke,
Now the baker's boy to the doctor went,
Now listen to the baker's boy,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 10:18 AM Dead Whore Tune: My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean
II passed a dead whore on the roadside
Chorus:
I first met my dead whore at Mitch's
Chorus...
My dead whore looked into a gas tank
While nibbling my dead whore's festered nipples
Chorus...
My dead whore's vagina was swelling
Chorus...
Chorus...
I French-kissed my dead whore named Merly
Chorus...
Once upon thinking it over Chorus...
But before I could extract that jism
Chorus...
Goes at the end of Dead Whore or may be done as a song by itself. Born Dead Tune = Born Free
Born dead, your baby was born dead
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 09:50 AM Did You Ever Wonder?
Tune=?
Have you ever wondered if your Mom gave Dad a blow job
Did you ever wonder if anybody ever hears you,
Do you ever wonder if the Tin Man wanted Dorothy
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 09:47 AM More verses to this WWII classic already found in the DT.
Roll Your Leg Over Tune: Oh, Sally, My Dear
If all the young girls were like fish in the ocean,
CHORUS: Oh, roll your leg over,
If all the young girls were like fish in a pool,
If all the young girls were like fish in the brookie,
If all the young girls were like winds on the sea,
If all the young girls were like cows in the pasture,
If all the young girls were like mares in the stable,
If all the young girls were like bells in a tower,
If all the young girls were like bats in a steeple,
If all the young girls were like little red foxes,
If all the young girls were like little white rabbits,
If all the young girls were like trees in the forest,
If all the young girls were like telephone poles,
If all the young girls were like diamonds and rubies,
If all the young girls were like coals in the stoker,
I wish all the girls were like statues of Venus,
I wish all young ladies were singing this song,
If all the young ladies were far better skiers,
I wish all the girls were like Aspen Ski Tow,
If all the young girls were like winds on the sea,
I wish all little girls were like pieces of pie,
I wish all little girls were like small desert cactus,
We sing long, we sing loud, we sing all about it,
I wish all the girls were like holes in the road,
I wish all the girls would douche with Lavoris,
I wish all the men were like pipes in the yard,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:37 AM Roedean School Tune: We Shall Not Be Moved
We are from Roedean, good girls are we,
CHORUS:
Our school porter, he is a fool,
When we go out to the Vicar's for tea,
When we go down to the beach for a swim,
Our head perfect, her name is Jane,
Our house mistress, she can't be beat,
Our sports mistress, she is the best,
Each week at Roedean we have a dance,
Our head gardener, he makes us drool,
We have a new girl, her name is Flo,
We are from Roedean, lesbos are we,
Our school doctor, she is a beaut,
We go to Roedean, don't we have fun,
Those girls from Cheltenham, they are just sissies,
We go to Roedean, we can be had,
In our winter we wear our J.D.'s, Long combinations well below our knees, It's all right for dragging,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 12:29 AM Rip My Knickers Away Tune: ????
Be I 'ampshire, be I buggery,
CHORUS: Rip my knickers away,
Rip my knickers away, away,
Walkin' by the field one day
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 12:25 AM We have two very fine versions of this classic Austrailian in the DT. Here is bawdy parody.
Road to Gundagai Tune: Road to Gundagai
There's a crack winding back,
There's a yank there beside her,
With a frenchie on his big prick,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Oct 01 - 12:20 AM Dinah Tune: ???
CHORUS:
I wish I were the diamond ring,
The rich girl rides a limousine,
The rich girl uses a sanitary towel,
The rich girl wears a ring of gold,
The rich girl wears a brassiere,
The rich girl uses Vaseline,
The rich girls work in factories,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 09:38 AM Don't Cry Lady Tune: ??? (Good Night Ladies?)
Chorus:
Hooray, hooray, my father's gonna get shot.
Hooray, hooray, my uncle's gonna get hung.
Hooray, hooray, my brother's gonna get hurt.
Hooray, hooray, my cousin's gonna get destroyed.
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM Another version of this is in the DT under Ringdang
Ringadangdoo Tune: My Ding-a-ling
CHORUS:
I once knew a girl, her name was Jean,
So she took him to her father's house,
The very next day her father said,
So she went to town and became a whore,
There came to that town a son of a bitch
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 04:09 AM A song of Max's east-coast cruisen the "Big A??????"
Don't That Bastard Get any Bigger? Tune: Put Another Log On the Fire
Don't that bastard get any bigger?
Don't that paycheck get any fatter?
Don't let that heart rate go any faster,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 04:07 AM Now here can be heard a song for the herd, most appropriate for a Wicked Wyoming Wican if it don't make you more sicken.
It is similar to Carolina in the DT, but carries some distinctly different lyrics.
Down in Wyoming
Twas down in Wyoming,
She's randy, she's dandy
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 03:59 AM Nope Harpy, working double/triple time at the moment, sort of a wild, waltzing 6/8 tempo, a crazed tranatella worthy of Dmitri Dabalevsky. No rest for the wicked.
Drink
Drink,
Drink,
Burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, etc... |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Oct 01 - 03:48 AM Can't help but sing this song, and not recall that wonderful wedding scene from the original movie, The Godfather
Rajah of Aatrakhan Tune: When Johnnie Comes Marching Home
There was a Rajah of Astrakhan,
One day when he had a hell of a stand,
The warrior fetched the concubine,
The Rajah's cries were loud and long,
They hit the floor with a hell of a grunt,
There is a moral to this tale,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: harpgirl Date: 16 Oct 01 - 11:29 AM ...garg...you aren't sleeping much....have you gotten laid off? I hope not! |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Oct 01 - 09:44 AM Peri Periwinkle Tune: Ach, Du Lieber, Augustin
Noo a lassie was roamin' by the banks of Loch Lomand,
CHORUS:
Singin' Peri Periwinkle, I see your wee wrinkle,
Noo he fed her and cled her and into bed led her,
Noo all the little angels are sent, are sent up
Which end up? Ass end up.
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Oct 01 - 05:20 AM Giving equal time to the women here is: S&M Girl Tune: Candy Man
Who takes jumper cables,
CHORUS: Oh, the S&M girl,
Who can jump a flagpole,
Who can take a buzz saw,
Who sleeps on barbed wire,
Who can shave her body,
Who rubs down with honey,
Who ties down her sweetie,
Who can take some shackles
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Oct 01 - 05:13 AM Salome Tune: ???
Down our street we had a little party,
There was old Uncle Jim,
Little Sunny Tim,
CHORUS:
Monday night she fucks like hell, |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: harpgirl Date: 16 Oct 01 - 01:30 AM ...they teach these to the Philmont Rangers? geez..kinda gross... |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Oct 01 - 12:40 AM OK folks, perhaps this could fall more in the catagory of "Camp-Fire-Songs," it is a variation of Three Jolly Fishermen As a "camper" I thought it a cute-ditty, but little did I know the OTHER words meaning when twisted to a footballer's mentality. Joe/Max will probably deleat it since it reflects sentiments THEY attribute to the Knaben/Jugen of the HJ. But given its irreverance to cutesy/niceness it is deffinately RUGBY!!! (posted 10/16/01 15:31 GMT)
Three Jews from Jerusalem Tune: Three Jolly Fishermen
There were three Jews from Jerusalem,
The first Jew's name was Issac (2x)
The second Jew's name was Abraham (2x)
They had a friend named Joseph,(2x)
And another friend named Jehosephat,(2x)
They went for a ride in a charabanc,(2x)
There was a mighty thunderclap,(2x)
They all fell over a precipice,(2x)
The took them off the hospital,(2x)
Otherwise known as the ramah sakit,(2x)
But there were no beds vacant,(2x)
The doctor came form Norfolk,(2x)
The nurse she gave them arsenic,(2x)
And this is where we finish it,(2x)
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Oct 01 - 12:38 AM For the Yanks in this forum that have never crossed the pond and had the honor of sojourning with the European "ladies." Here is a little background information. Then again,the notation is probably unnecessary, WHO besides a UKer-FBer (or a UC-La student) would read this thread?
Subject: RE: What brand condoms do Mudcatters prefer.
Durex is a Girl's Best Friend Tune: Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend
A poke with a bloke may be quite incidental,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 15 Oct 01 - 04:47 AM This is a version of "Darkies Sunday School" currently NOT in the DT. It has inuendo and is more playful. Country Sunday School
CHORUS:
Now Adam was the first man,
The Lord said unto Noah,
Now Moses in the bulrushes,
King Solomon and King David,
Now Samson was an Israelite,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 15 Oct 01 - 04:46 AM Barcelona Tune: Mañana
CHORUS:
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona,
Way down in Barcelona where the miners shovel coal,
Way down in New York City,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 14 Oct 01 - 07:05 AM Virgin Sturgeon Tune: Reuben and Rachel
CHORUS:
I gave caviar to my girlfriend,
I gave caviar to my grandpa,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 14 Oct 01 - 07:03 AM
Cactus In My Y-Fronts
Chorus:
I've a jock strap made of leather
I was up in Cripple Creek,
I went down to Nevada
In Cal-i-for-ni-a where the rustlers are so 'gay'
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 14 Oct 01 - 07:01 AM Carolina Tune: Sweet Betsy from Pike
Way down in Alabama where the bullshit lies thick,
She's handy, she's bandy, she shags in the street.
One night I was riding way down by the falls,
I caressed her, undressed her, and laid her down there.
Faster and faster went my sturdy steed,
Up got Carolina all covered in muck.
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 14 Oct 01 - 06:59 AM I don't believe the Search Engines are working at the M.C.
Vicar in the Dockside Church
The Vicar in the dockside church,
The organist played 'Hearts of Oak',
Sweet Jenny Lynd got up to sing,
The up jumped Jock and hollered out,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 14 Oct 01 - 06:53 AM Thanks GUEST - Well that is "different" and perhaps best left out of the D.T. Here's a "nicer one" for those who more easily offended, it is a variation on Bestialitys' Best posted above.
Vegetables Are The Best
Chorus:
Do the deed with a weed, girls,
Other verses:
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: Paul from Hull Date: 12 Oct 01 - 02:46 PM Well....I'm not surprised you posted that anonymously.... |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST Date: 12 Oct 01 - 12:27 AM Well MONKEY BOY it has taken three and half years and one-hundred separate postings but here is your beloved S&M Manyou bloody perv
S&M Man
Who will run through jaggers,
CHORUS:: It's the S&M man,
Who can take a hammer,
Who can take a hammer,
Who can take his bicycle,
Who can take some sandpaper,
Who can take a old wood saw,
Who can take his willy,
Who can take a chainsaw,
Who can take a razor,
Who can take a sander,
Who can take a mallet,
Who can take a young girl,
Who would use machinery,
Who can take some fiberglass,
Who can take a light bulb,
Who can take just two bricks,
Who wears pants with zippers,
Who can take a bottle,
Who can take your scrotum,
Who can take a chainsaw,
Who can take your penis,
Who would take a condom,
Who can take your penis,
Who can take two ice picks,
Who takes jumper cables,
Who would take your kiddies,
Who would put a kid's hand,
Who gives children candy,
Who can take a chainsaw,
Who can take some clothes pegs,
Who can take a Doberman,
Who can take a hair curler,
Who can take his penis,
Who can find some newlyweds,
Who can take a glass rod,
Who can take a baby,
Who can take a nun,
Who can take a vagina,
Who can take a puppy,
Who can take a vice clamp.
Who can take a transient
Who can take a Coke bottle
Who can take a cheese grater
SONG ENDERS:
Who can take a baby,
Who can take a pregnant woman,
Who can go to the abortion clinic,
Who can take a little girl,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 01 - 12:41 AM With the scrum through the memory of mud and blood, some of the above might not be technically, songs, but they are deffinately Rugby at its finest. This one falls there also.
Our Lager Tune: None
Our Lager |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 01 - 12:39 AM Yank My Doodle
Yank my doodle it's a dandy,
I've got a Yankee doodle boner,
Yank my doodle it's so big,
Yank my doodle it's a dandy,
So yank my doodle 'till it cums,
Yank my doodle it's so big,
Yank my doodle it's a dandy,
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 01 - 12:37 AM Positively amazed THIS one is NOT in the DT, we sang it in elementry school
Walking Down Canal Street
Walking down Canal Street,
When I finally found a whore,
When I finally got it in,
When I finally got it out, |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 01 - 12:36 AM Olé zooma zooma zooma Olé zooma zooma chief Drink it down you Zulu warrior Drink it down you Zulu chief Drink it down you Zulu warrior Drink it down you Zulu chief, chief, chief! |
Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 01 - 12:35 AM Leader: "Oggy Oggy Oggy!" Unruly Mob "Oi Oi Oi." Leader (Louder) "Oggy Oggy Oggy!!" Rabble "Oi Oi Oi!" Leader (Really pissed now) "Oggy!!!!!" Crowd (Bellowing) "Oi!!!!" Leader (Red faced) "Ogy!!!!!" Audience "Oi!!!!" Leader "Ogy Oggy Oggy!!!!" Followers "Oi Oi Oi !!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: RE: Rugby Football Songs From: mooman Date: 10 Oct 01 - 02:43 AM Thanks Gareth, Brings back fond memories! Eric...we may have been "in combat" one time as I also played for Old Reigatians and Old Croydonians round about that time as well! mooman |
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