BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 11:56 PM

"Sawz:

"Bobert's boys created Jim Crow..." is a really off the wall accusation. Which of Bobert's boys do you specifically mean, if specifics are not too big a challenge?"

Why didn't you challenge Bobert to specify the boys he was referring to?

He brought up the reference first. You ignore that and mount a personal attack on me. Do you have some sort of pro Bobert anti Sawzaw bias? Aren't you fair and balanced?

Bobert seems to be on a first name basis with the owner of his favorite rehab joint. How many frequent flier miles have you built up Bobert?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 12:37 AM

Me? I like Joe Crow! Jose Cuervo!. Si! Margaritas all around and move on to the next thread.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 11:05 PM

Now the Tea Party Terrorists are even threatening Republican officionados with a "bullet to the head"!

DOVER, Del. – A nasty campaign for the GOP U.S. Senate nomination in Delaware got even uglier Monday when state Republican officials disclosed what they characterized as a death threat against their party chairman.

U.S. Rep. Michael Castle, the choice of the GOP establishment in Tuesday's primary, is trying to fend off a possible upset by tea party candidate Christine O'Donnell.

State party spokesman Tom Doheny said Monday that chairman Tom Ross, who supports Castle and has denounced O'Donnell as a liar and a fraud, last week received a vulgarity-laced e-mail.

Doheny declined to provide a copy of the e-mail or divulge the address it came from, but said the writer suggested that Ross and other so-called Republicans in Name Only, or RINOs, deserve "a bullet in the head."

Doheny said Ross took the threat seriously enough to move his family out of their home, and that the Department of Justice is investigating.

Full story here.

Yeah, the terrorist roots of the Tea Party are beginning to show.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 08:43 AM

Yeah, in the words of Sarah, "Reload"...

Not too much different between the Tealiban and the brownshirts in Germany in the 30s... Can't win one way then threaten the opposition with 2nd ammendment remedies...

Hope the Tealiban is enjoyin' their little run now 'cause it ain't gonna last...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 08:57 AM

I hope the Tea Party is at least a wake-up call, for the stupid, and ineffectual, non-representative, career politicians, and their ilk, that have been in office, screwing us around for the past 30-40 years!!! Whether they gather any more, to their roles, has yet to be seen....but the two parties, in their present form, can just go take a hike!!


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 01:55 PM

Are Al Goreistas a Terrorist Organization?

MSNBC

Police shot to death a man armed with several bombs who held three hostages Wednesday at the Discovery Communications building. Authorities said the hostages were safe.

At least one device on the man's body went off when he was shot inside the building in suburban Washington, D.C., Montgomery County police Chief Thomas Manger said. Police were trying to determine whether two boxes and two backpacks the gunman had also contained explosives.

Manger said SWAT officers shot the gunman about 4:50 p.m. ET because officials "believed the hostages were in danger." The hostages — two Discovery Communications employees and a security guard — were unhurt after the four-hour standoff.

An NBC News producer who called the building to find out what was going on had a brief telephone conversation with the man when he came on the line unexpectedly. He identified himself as James J. Lee and said, "I have a gun and I have a bomb. ... I have several bombs strapped to my body ready to go off."

Speaking to reporters, Manger would not release the man's identity, but numerous law enforcement authorities gave NBC News the same name James J. Lee. Lee, 43, was a longtime protester at the building who was sentenced to six months of supervised probation for disorderly conduct in March 2008.

Manger said the suspect held the hostages in the lobby area of the first floor. He said police spent several hours negotiating with the armed man after he entered the suburban Washington building about 1 p.m.

The building in the close-in suburb of Washington was safely evacuated, including the Discovery Kids Place day care center, and none of the 1,900 people who work in the building were hurt.

'The planet does not need humans'
Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

"I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it," the alleged manifesto reads, adding:

"Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans."
Video: James Lee pitched TV show to Discovery

Court records show that Lee was arrested Feb. 21, 2008, on the sixth day of a protest at the Discovery building. At the time of his conviction in March 2008, he was identified as being from San Diego.

Police were called to the scene when a crowd that had gathered began growing "unruly" as Lee threw thousands of dollars of cash into the air, some of it still in shrink-wrapped packages, police said at the time. (Lee was found not guilty of littering.)

Lee said at the time that he experienced an "awakening" when he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 02:00 PM

Bong hits for the demands of a left wing "terrorist"?:

The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 02:55 PM

To conflate the droolings of one psycho with the general teachings of Al Gore must take a very bitter, short-tempered miond indeed, Mister Zawl. It is a patent, transparent effort to confuse and heap acrimony on someone who really does not deserve it, using the cheapest of rhetorical machinations. Really, you DO have better things to do with your time. You seem a little desperate to invalidate people any way you can think of. Why is that?

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 04:49 PM

The only one being invalidated here, Amos, is Sawz himself... People that are all that angry should just seek more counseling and/or a change in meds...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 12:46 AM

So from what I gather by the statements of the two senior repositories of knowledge* here on the Mudcat with nothing better to do, is that what the leftwing psycho terrorist did was OK but the person that makes note of it, Me, needs some help.

Well it always easier to attack the person rather than to refute the information, to "invalidate people any way you can think of" especially when you don't have any facts to refute it with.

FYI the leftwing psycho terrorist said he was "awakened" by Al Gore's movie.

*Knowledge consisting of little known "facts" like Regan eliminated Glass Steagal and Obama bought his own airplane.

And of course don't forget the squirrels.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 01:05 AM

Personally, Al gore puts me to sleep.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 01:13 AM

Come on, let's not be nuts! The guy was an environmental wacko. Isn't that obvious?? ..and, as far as Al Gore is concerned, he, his doctrine, and his film have been proven to be fraudulent!..I don't think there should be much debate about that! To agree with Gore, especially with this other nut ball, was/is just enough to set the wacko behavior off!
So, Amos and Bobert, Don't embarrass yourselves by defending Gore or the whack-job nut-ball...and just because Sawzaw posts the post he did, which happens to be true, to jump his shit for it, is just left-over clinging to fraudulent premises of the past. Get over it!
Jeez!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 08:41 AM

Righto, GfinS... Amos and I should just let the polluters pollute our water and our air because, after all, they are wealthy and wealthy folks can't be or do anythig worng, can they??? And anyone who has the adasity to stand up to the polluters should be villified... And after that we should all just bow down to the polluters and thank them for providing us our meager jobs... I* mean, what good is clean air and water if we don't have jobs makin' Boss Hog's widgets...

BTW, don't worry about the green glow in that pond out back... Our scientists say it's cleaner than clean... Might of fact they say they are thinkin' of bottlin' it up and sellin' it in the health food stores...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 12:49 PM

The logic I am pointing out is that if somebody does something horrible and weird it is declared an isolated incident by a psychopath unless they are in anyway associated, ever even walked past a conservative rally. Then It is declared to be a conspiracy carried out by a terrorist organization, every conservative is guilty of terrorism and belongs to the Taliban.

The old double standard rears it's ugly head again. Bobert's propaganda rules.

In giving voice to people who are pissed off seems that one global warming anti pollution nut, hyped up by Al Gore, has now committed a suicide, terrorist, hostage taking attack on a private company because he disagreed with them.

Me thinks that the Taliban are alive and well in the USA

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 01:10 PM

Amos,

To conflate the droolings of one psycho with the general principles of the Tea Party must take a very bitter, short-tempered mind indeed, Amos. It is a patent, transparent effort to confuse and heap acrimony on someone who really does not deserve it, using the cheapest of rhetorical machinations. Really, you DO have better things to do with your time. You seem a little desperate to invalidate people any way you can think of. Why is that?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 01:15 PM

The New York Times

I asked the election guru Charlie Cook if there were signs that the Tea Party was scaring away the independents. I haven't seen any, he replied. I asked another Hall of Fame pollster, Peter Hart, if there were Republican or independent voters so alarmed by the Tea Party that they might alter their votes. He ran the numbers and found very few potential defectors.

The fact is, as the Tea Party has surged, so has the G.O.P. When this primary season began in early February, voters wanted Democrats to retain control of Congress by 49 percent to 37 percent, according to an Associated Press-Gfk poll. In the ensuing months, Tea Party candidates won shocking victories in states from Florida to Alaska. The most recent A.P./Gfk poll now suggests that Americans want Republicans to take over Congress by 46 percent to 43 percent.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 01:48 PM

Ya know, Bruce, many of us mastered the rhetorical device of mindless mimicry, or copying, in pre-school. But by the time we got to fourth grade, we had outgrown it. We also got over the senseless delight in irritating people by using it, because we grew out of the sense of helplessness which made us desperate for anything that would prove we had a point of view.

I don't know why you think it is clever to take someone else's words and twist them around this way, but it is callow and ineffective.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 02:07 PM

Amos,

If you think MY statement is " callow and ineffective", perhaps YOU might guess what I think of your statement using the same factual basis- ie, that ONE person represents the entire movement.


If you don't like what I say, stop saying the same thing ( from the other side) YOURSELF.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 02:23 PM

Huh?? Who did I accuse of representing the whole movement? Check your meds, amigo...


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 03:06 PM

Anyone who brandishes a weapon at the Tea Party is a terrorist.

Keep your guns at home!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 06:29 PM

In logic it is the informal fallacy of attributing to the whole what may be true to the part. It is a non sequiter: it does not follow.

In the case of the Tea Party, these are the facts: It is not a formal party. To date,as far as I know, there is NO membership requirement. The meetings that have been held have been open to the general public and therefore those who have staged the meetings have NO CONTROL over those who may attend other than societal police control. Since this is a free country and free speech is in effect, virtually any opinion could be expresed in a number of ways at such an event and it would not necessairliy be an accurate reflection of those who staged the event.

I believe Sawz brought up the case of the homocidal/suicidal Gorite to demonstrate the absurdity of attributing to the whole what may be true of the part. That's all.

Regardless of your positions on Global Warming or the Tea Party, such arguments are fallacious and when presented with inflamatory language, well, at best it generates hundreds of posts to a topic that ought not to be. That IS all.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 09:09 PM

The bottom line here is that some folks here think it is perfectly okay in their book to villify someone because they don't agree with them... Poor ol' Al Gore ain't no demon... Might of fact, he probably knows more about environmental issues than the entire Mudville population...

Hey, if you take a country to war for bogus reasons you deserve the criticism but to try to make Al Gore into some kinda moronic monster is just way the heck over the line interms of trying to win whatever debating points one is trying to win...

(But, Bobert... You have called the Tea Party folks loonies, terrorists, racists, etc...)

Well, yeah... I have... And I'm sure that alot of them folks have just gotten caught up in Dick Armey's multi-million doallr community organizing affort against Desm and Obama... But when I look at the pictures and read the signs it's hard not revisist tapes of the KKK from my childhood and young adulthood...

I mean, if the Tea Party evdedr wants my respect it has to step to the plate and say, "2nd ammendmant solution" against your polititical opponents are not American... Until then, hey, they are nuthin' but a bunch or renegade, lynch-mob rednecks...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 01:54 AM

Bobert: "Might of fact, he probably knows more about environmental issues than the entire Mudville population..."

He probably does...so why is he lying his ass off.....money?????? To be relevant?????

Gore is so full of shit, that those who start defending him, or spouting his crap, are also full of it!...and there ain't no two ways about it!!!

Speaking of which, when the political loonies run out of common sense, and their so-called arguments are found to be full of holes, because there are no FACTS in their rap, they resort to 'name calling', and accusations..instead of an intelligent debate. Gore, and his acknowledged fraudulent 'theories' have been PROVEN to be full of lies, and disinformation. THAT is a FACT!! To hang on, and try to defend his position, then makes you just spouting old, left over, propaganda, that didn't work!!!!
How stupid is THAT??????
Oh!!!..BUT he is a Democrap...so let's all rally behind him, no matter how full of shit he is!!!
Can't wait till his ex-ol' lady, publishes the book ,that reveals what an absolute phony his is!!....and you'll still be in denial!!!!

Sheesh!,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:20 AM

Who says he is lieing, GfinS??? You??? The Polluters??? Bush former flat-eart socalled scientists??? FOX??? The Tea Party??? John Birch hisself??? No, Lyndon LaRouche??? Mickey Mouse???

More to being a liar than having folks with different agendas proclamin' you one...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:59 AM

Bobert, I suggest you read, or somehow get acquainted with the news.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 10:38 AM

GoS:

Your analysis of Gore could stand a little fleshing out--it seems to be short of particulars and in need of some nuancing.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 07:10 PM

Alll ya gotta do, Amos, is read whatever wingnut blog that GfinS wants yhou to read and then you too can be part of the growing...

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B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:28 PM

Innuendos and name calling...hmmm...is that all you got?????

Who put you up to this..the crazed biscuit queen of the north?

Betcha didn't know this!

Hurray for integrity!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:48 AM

I mean, let's get real here... Many people of Al Gore's age get involved in helping aging parent manage stock portfolios... But there are different levels of management... The fact that Al Gore's mothers portfoloio had stock in Occidental Petrolium should not come as a major surprise... Lotta folks of her generation invested in Occidental because it was considered a safe (conservative) investment... Big deal...

CorpWatch could better use it's time investigating the real petrolium crooks who actively and personally have been involved in wrong doing... I mean, they put the blast on Al Gore as if he was Dick Cheney... There's somethin' dishonest here...

Al Gore helps his mom with some paperwork and gets the bigass Al-is-a-crook charge from CorpWatch and Dick Cheney gets a pass??? I mean, even if CorpWatch did a piece on Cheney it's completely incongruent that CorpWatch would elevate Al Gore to Cheney's "crook level status" for helpin' his mom with her investments...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 09:27 AM

Why don't we get sensationalist threads like this about the APP? I'll tell you why. Because apes are a whole lot smarter than humans, that's why.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:24 AM

When members of the Tea Party bring weapons to political events to try to intimidate
those who don't agree with them, this is a terrorist tactic.

The Tea Partiers will not allow those who disagree with them to speak at their rallies.
They will shout them down as they always do because they think they are the only
ones who are right.

Most of them are over sixty and white. They offer no solutions to the unemployment problems that we have and generally support the meaningless war in Afghanistan
and the absurd occupation of Iraq (which by the way is still occupied by American troops.)

Dick Armey and the Koch brothers support this ragtag bunch of hot heads because it is a political weapon to use against Obama who is vilified by ugly posters and lied about.
They say he is a Muslim and this is a lie. They also say he is Hitler and this is unjust.
The Tea Partiers have no real credibility of representing sensible people in the US and have gotten a lot of publicity because it makes titillating copy in place of real news.

They are very much the same ilk as the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany, stirring up trouble and raging against the takeover of Liberals which are really non-existent. They have abused the Second Amendment of the Constitution to get their way through intimidation
and bullying tactics. There are very few black people there because they know that the Tea Party is basically a racist reactionary party.

The solution to the disease of the Tea Party is for sensible people to raise their objections which because most Americans have their head in the sand, they are unwilling to do.
John Stewart offers a legitimate appeal to "taking it down a notch" and allowing for sanity in a crazy period of American history.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:48 AM

Exactly, Srings...

Think back on the so-called "town meetings last summer... Traditionally, the town meeting is one of the most democratic institutions in the country... Yet Dick Armey and Co. turned them into their own political theater by training these hotheads to turn what was supposed to be democratic meeting into their own little thuggish bullying ring...

I mean, let's get real here... The Tealiban slobs who went to these meetings went with one intent and that was not to particiapte in democracy but to disrupt it... Hey, it's one thing to organize a bunch of like minded jerks and go out and have a ralley or demonstration... It's quite another to attend an event where people have come to participate, learn a little, maybe get up and ask questions or make comments just to prevent these people from ***their*** 1sy ammendment rights...

Seems that the Tealiban is only interested in constitutional rights when it comes to ***their*** rights but don't give a flying fig about the rights of others... That, my friends, is what my mom calls "borish" beahvior...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 12:31 PM

And thanks, Strings, fir bringing the discussion back into line... Seems so folks would rather just change the subject...

No, the Tea Party using terrorism and Al Gore's mom's finacial portfolio as topics of conversation have nuthin' in common...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 01:10 PM

Stringsinger: "When members of the Tea Party bring weapons to political events to try to intimidate
those who don't agree with them, this is a terrorist tactic."

Agreed...Same with the environmental Whack jobs who start blasting away and proceed in killing people!!!!...while agreeing with Gore, who allegedly IS MASQUERADING AS AN 'ENVIRONMENTALIST' only for the money.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 07:54 PM

As I understand the environmental "whack jobs" as you refer to them, they don't hurt people. They will sometimes destroy property such as whaling vessels or lumber company equipment. I know of no environmental protest group that use weapons to further their cause ala the Tea Party.

Al Gore has an environmentalist axe to grind but he's not really in it for the money.
He may have political motivations for it but it is not a lucrative position that he is taking
whereas the major corporate offenders are only interested in the bottom line and not in the welfare of the public or their customers. Their CEO's make a lot more than Gore ever dreamt of.

Who is really crooked here?

Al Gore may not be the perfect spokesperson for environmental protection but he is head and shoulders above anyone else today who is allowed to be broadcast on the media.
The whole BP oil spill should convince anyone in their right mind of that. If you believe
that chemical dispersants have eaten all the oil and made the ecological problems of the Gulf Coast go away, I have a Bridge in Brooklyn for sale to you.

The Tea Partiers won't and can't have a position on this issue since they are purely a reactionary group who have no solutions to anything. Gore, no matter what you think of him, is pro-active on a cause he believes in. He is being attacked because he is perceived as being a "Liberal", something the reactionary Tea Party can't stand. It's ideological warfare based on ad hominem arguments.

I think that Bobert's thread is appropriate and he has called it correctly.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:28 PM

And thank you, Strings... Ya' ever notice how when people don't really have a defense they just try to change the subject... Unless, of course, it's a Tealibaner and then they either try to shout you down or threaten to shoot you...

I hope that the Dems will point these things out between now and the November elctions... I think there are alot of independents who are tellin' pollster one thing but really haven't made up their minds and the borishjness o0f the tea Party could easially turn an entire the entire election if the Repubs and Tealiban are seen as too far extreme...

Yeah, I know that the Repubs and the Tealiban is tryin' to paint anyone who votes for a Dem a "socialist" but I just don't see that stickin' too well... I think the right has overpalyed the socialist card this time around...

b~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:37 PM

Yep Strings, when the right starts employing tactics that the left has used for decades, cry "foul"! Simply amazing.

I happened to see one of the last California condors in the wild before efforst began to save them. Where? Elk Hills oil reserve, while working on an oil rig. That is all that is out there, hundreds, if not thousands of capped wells. You won't see the Roosevelt Elk there either. Those that still exist have been settled in other more hospitable areas. The last blunt nosed leapard lizard I saw anywhere near there was 30 miles north where now stands a state penitentiary (Delano). They must not have filed an enviroment impact report before building that one! That was a very interesting article, Ggfs.

"Facts? We don' neeed no stinking facts!"

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:49 PM

I don't recall the left threatenin' to shoot anyone, Slag, if they didn't agree with them...

Yeah, there were some nutty people in the 60s but, hey, 20/20 hinsight the Black Panthers got guns to protect themselves... Didn't work out too well fir them as cops either shot them dead in their sleep or arrested them fir, ahhhhh, danged if I know... Don't remember any other refererneces to threatening to shoot ( or hang) folks that don't agree with you until Sarah Palin went out and riled up Redneck Nation... Now, it seems that we can't go a week without one of these people thrreatenin' to use 2nd ammendment remedies to get hie os her way...

So this idea that the right is now doing waht the left has done for years is ***bogus***... It comnplete mythology intended to give cover to the rednecks who are out there thinkin' it's okay to shoot people if they don't agree with Redneck Nation's wanting to "get their country back"... That is a total crock of hog manure...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 01:30 PM

I guess you missed the news item about the environmental whack job, who started firing his weapon, this past week, doing some killing, so the polluted environment wouldn't...oh, never mind.
It was in the news, look it up.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 04:29 PM

Yer words, GfinS... The "environmental whack job"... The implication is that this guy was some kinda outsider who went postal...

That is not an argument 'casue it deals with one person...

What we are talking about there is an entire political movement that has infused threats of violence into it's strategy...

If you can't see the difference then you have indeed earned the "in" in Gf"in"S...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:03 AM

Bobert: "What we are talking about there is an entire political movement that has infused threats of violence into it's strategy..."

Other than Democrap talking points, do you have a reliable source on that??..or are you just spouting off, again?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:06 AM

Ohh...and by the way, speaking of DemoCRAP talking points, the Administration just released this today: The recession was over in July 2009!!!!

I guess if you believe the spin on that one, you can believe about anything!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 08:12 AM

Geeze, GfinS... I really haven't heard any Dems talkin' about this... Wish they would... Seems the Dems are a little gun-shy (pun intended) these days and not standing up for much...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:19 PM

The "reliable source" for Bobert's contention is the display of guns at political rallies.
This is analogous to junta mentality. Let's intimidate those who don't agree with us.

As to Democrats, they are running scared right now. When they find their courage, they
might become a viable Party again.

As to Republicans, they have nothing valuable to offer. Their rage is impotent.
Their lies are transparent but they don't care about that.

Christine O'Donnel and Sarah Palin have nothing valuable to offer to solve the important issues of today, unemployment, meaningless wars, and fiscal policies. They are symbols
of American insanity but at the root of their campaigns are the puppet-masters, the corporations that are financing them. This can be said for the Tea Party in general.

The problem is that just like in Nazi Germany, the public is casting about for someone to blame for their economic predicament. Liberals, Democrats, Peaceniks, etc. are an easy target and with weapons available, they are often literal targets.

Bill Maher may have a point. You are never going to eradicate terrorism. There will be crime and terrorism is one of them. Then again, if we can evolve beyond "fight and flight" we may have a chance of survival.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:28 PM

Gosh Bobert, It's on the front page, of every national paper, and top news story, on broadcast 'news' today. I suggest you get your head out of your 'posterior' and read something, besides this blog!..that is, if you can see straight!

GfS

P.S. When you see it, you let me know if you think you agree!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 01:14 PM

Well, not on the front page of the Washington Post... Big story about a 7 figure donation to the Tea Party... But with the Supreme Courts latest legislation the American people have no right to know where that money came from...

I'm not too sure, GfinS, what you are even talkin' about whatever earth-shattering story you are thinking of here... Is it "Recession is officially over, but anxiety lingeres"???... Or "Probes by FBI called improper"???... Or "Cildren of al-Qaeda in Iraq pay for sins of their fathers"???... Or "Mystery involving Arlington grave sites grows"???... Or is the Tea Part one entitled "Tea Party works to build on momentum"???

Those are the only stories on the front page of today's Post, GfinS... None else... None about the Dems demanding the the Tealiban offer up a statement that killing folks who disgree with you ain't cool... None about whatever it is that you think is earth-shattering...

Me thinks that you could use a little time out with Betty Ford...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 02:24 AM

Try USA Today. I simply cannot believe this one escaped you!! Even others have posted regarding this...Oh yeah, I forgot....you're blind to certain things.......and see only what you want to see.
That's probably why you keep running over things while mowing the yard!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 02:30 AM

Try USA Today. I simply cannot believe this one escaped you!! Even others have posted regarding this...Oh yeah, I forgot....you're blind to certain things.......and see only what you want to see.
That's probably why you keep running over things while mowing the yard!

GfS

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They must be examining their colons, personally, real well, and up close!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 08:35 AM

Oh, that one???

{{{{{{{{{{{yawn}}}}}}}}}}}}

And this is "new" news, exactly how???

This is a recycled story, GfinS... They been tellin' US that it was over for the last 6 months to a year and then sayin' that it's going to be several years, if ever, before the economy produces enough jobs to be even close to a full employement economy...

Only those who are "clueless" haven't been hearing or reading these stories all along... I'm not too sure why they feel that had to repackage the same story and bring it out as if it is "news"... Face it, it's "olds"...

I mean, unless you just arrived from a foriegn planet, that is...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 11:05 AM

Bobert: "The bottom line here is that some folks here think it is perfectly okay in their book to villify someone because they don't agree with them"

That's what Bobert does every day so he must be one that thinks it's OK.

"foriegn planet"? as opposed to a native planet?

I think this falls into the Illegal loophole category.