Subject: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil From: GeoffLawes Date: 14 Mar 10 - 08:19 PM
-Joe Offer- THE PURPOSE OF THIS MUDCAT THREAD IS TO COMPILE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF SONGS WHICH HAVE BEEN WRITTEN IN ENGLISH ABOUT THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR.IT ALSO AIMS TO COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT THE CREATION AND SINGING OF THE SONGS The thread is now very long with 100+ songs listed and so be aware that if you use a blue click link to access a location outside of this thread (mostly YouTube) it may take a bit of time for the thread to download when you come back Posts to this perma thread are being consolidated and organised thematically according to song title and topic. Clickable links to the location of these consolidated and organised postings are provided in the SONG LIST and TOPIC LIST below. PLEASE DO NOT POST LYRICS OF SONGS TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH: there are a great many, most are well known and most can be found HERE
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Subject: Lyr Add: OFF TO SALAMANCA From: MartinRyan Date: 15 Mar 10 - 04:16 AM As an irish contribution, here's something I found on my computer - can't for the life of me remember where I picked it up!: Battle song of the Irish Christian Front; "Off to Salamanca" OFF TO SALAMANCA My name is Owen O'Duffy, And I'm rather vain and huffy The side of every Bolshie I'm a thorn in But before the break of day I'll be marching right away For I'm off to Salamanca in the morning! Chorus With the gold supplied by Vickers I can buy Blue Shirt and knickers Let the Barcelona Bolshies take a warning For I lately took the notion To cross the briny ocean And I start for Salamanca in the morning There's a boy called Paddy Belton, With a heart that's soft and meltin' Yet the first to face the foemen, danger scorning Tho' his feet are full of bunions Yet he knows his Spanish onions And he's off to Salamanca in the morning. Chorus Now the "Irish Christian Front" Is a Lombard-Murphy stunt (Hark! the ghostly voice of Connolly gives warning) And Professor Hogan's pals Can don their fol-de-lals And start for Salamanca in the morning Chorus When they get kicked out of Spain And they travel home again Let them hearken in good time to this our warning If they try their Fascist game They'll be sorry that they came Back from Salamanca in the morning! Chorus Regards Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:56 PM MARTIN RYAN: I have done a bit of Googling and it seems likely that Off to Salamanca was written by Somhairle Macalastair, pen name of Irish poet Diarmiud Fitzpatrick. There is an article about him written by H. Gustav Klaus called "The Authorship of the Somhairle Macalastair Ballads", Irish University Review, XXVI:2 (1996), 107-117. The first page of it can be read HERE If anyone has access to this without the need to cough up the 24 dollars that JSTOR are asking to read it then it would be nice to know if the article does confirm his authorship of the song. Another possibility is that the song is one of the 'same one or two ballads' by Somhairle Macalastair which the above article says are printed in the Penguin Book of Spanish Civil War Verse. Could somebody who has this book have a look please? Does anyone have a tune for Off To Salamanca? Has it been recorded by anyone? Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: MartinRyan - PM Date: 16 Mar 10 - 03:24 AM Geoff The tune is presumably "Off to Philadelphia in the morning". Off To Philidelphia In The Morning
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 16 Mar 10 - 08:10 AM Thank You Martin - you probably know the historical context of Off To Salamanca but here is a link in case anyone wants to know more about Robert Belton and the Irish Christian Front Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: MartinRyan - PM Date: 16 Mar 10 - 06:52 PM Geoff In case you haven't seen it: if your Spanish is up to it, there's a reference to "Off to Salamanca" in THIS ARTICLE with the same attribution Regards
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOLK SONG ARMY (Tom Lehrer) From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Mar 10 - 08:29 AM THE FOLK SONG ARMY
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:49 AM Yes Charlie, it is marginal in terms of its musical genre. But it does,I think,give an interesting critical perception of the impact of the SCW on popular culture in the post SCW period. And it is about folk music. The Folk Song Army By Tom Lehrer We are the folk song army. Everyone of us cares. We all hate poverty, war, and injustice, Unlike the rest of you squares. There are innocuous folk songs. Yeah, but we regard 'em with scorn. The folks who sing 'em have no social conscience. Why they don't even care if jimmy crack corn. If you feel dissatisfaction, Strum your frustrations away. Some people may prefer action, But give me a folk song any old day. The tune don't have to be clever, And it don't matter if you put a coupla extra syllables into a line. It sounds more ethnic if it ain't good English, And it don't even gotta rhyme--excuse me--rhyne. Remember the war against Franco? That's the kind where each of us belongs. Though he may have won all the battles, We had all the good songs. So join in the Folk Song Army, Guitars are the weapons we bring To the fight against poverty, war, and injustice. Ready! aim! sing! If nothing else this thread is bound to prove that 'we had all the good songs'- so it might be considered the thread's theme tune? TOM LEHRER -Wikipedia The Folk Song Army by Tom Lehrer Regards, Geoff
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Subject: Lyr Add: EDDIE'S SONG (Utah Phillips) From: Mark Ross Date: 15 Mar 10 - 05:27 PM EDDIE'S SONG by Utah Phillips written for Eddie Balchowsky. Standing in your shadow, afraid to go outside, I could listen to your music all night long, But the world keeps on changing; there's still no place to hide, I know that we can't change it with a song. CHORUS; One hand on the keyboard and moonlight fills the room, One hand on the Ebro, no regrets, One hand on tomorrow reaching for the sun, One hand on the sun that never sets. The white cliffs of Gandesa lie sleeping in the rain, I guess some places always have their kings, And now I hear you singing the forgotten songs of Spain. I wish we could remember all those things. CHO.; I thought that I had trouble when I was on the loose, That must have been our carnival instead, And now I hear our children, they're singing "What's the use?" They drop a little something for their head. CHO.: Mark Ross Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:56 PM MARK ROSS:By Googling I discovered that Utah Phillips wrote Eddie's Song prematurely since he wrote it in response to an incorrect report that Eddie Balchowsky had died. Eddie Balchowsky, a pianist who lost an arm fighting with the International Brigades, has come up before in threads about the SCW but I don't recall this song being mentioned -so thanks . A YouTube performance of Eddie's Song by David Rogers
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: Jim Carroll Date: 15 Mar 10 - 06:47 PM UKNOWN PARODY of Los Quatros Generales Are you counting English translations Geoff? We have a recording somewhere of Paul Robeson singing Three(?) Insurgent Generals. My father sang a few verses of what sounded like a parody which I can't remember but which ended; ....... from Gandesa to the sea. And keep your bloody head down and don't shoot me. Jim Carroll Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:56 PM
JIM CARROLL: At this stage I am not looking for translations of songs but thank you very much for the fragment your father sang: |
Subject: Lyr Add: JAMIE FOYERS From: Tattie Bogle Date: 15 Mar 10 - 09:06 PM JAMIE FOYERS Jamie Foyers by Ewan McColl was a complete re-working of a much older song going back to Wellington's time. The earlier version is in the DT as Jamie Foyers2 DIGITRAD POSTING HERE Subject: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil From: GeoffLawes Date: 24 Mar 10 - Jamie Foyers By Ewan MacColl Sung Ewan MacColl, Dick Gaughan
Faur distant, faur distant, lies Foyers the brave
Jamie Foyers by MartinSimpson
FROM AN OLDER MUDCAT THREAD (click BLUE LINK it to visit) It first appeared in print in 'Scotland Sings' in 1953 (WMA publication). Ben Harker's biography, 'Class Act' gives it as having been written during the Spanish Civil war, following the death of two of his friends there: "His anxiety was sharpened during the Spanish Civil War, in which around 2,200 British volunteers joined the International Brigades, and 526 were killed. Life in the ranks didn't appeal to Jimmie, but he knew at least a dozen of the British dead, and lost two of his closest comrades and friends in the heavy fighting at Jarama. Bob Goodman and Alec Armstrong, still in their early twenties, shared Jimmie's politics, his interest in theatre, and his love of rambling and climbing. Goodman was killed in February 1937, Armstrong in June. Jimmie gave vent to some of the feelings of rage, guilt and loss in his second enduring song (the first was 'The Manchester Rambler'). 'Jamie Foyers' was a folksong Betsy used to sing lamenting a Perthshire militiaman killed in Spain during the Peninsular Wars. Recent events gave the song a new layer of associations, and Jimmie updated the text. In Jimmie's 'Jamie Foyers', the hero is a Clydeside shipyard worker, a composite of Goodman and Armstrong, who joins the International Brigade and dies fighting in Spain. Jimmie celebrates Foyers' life, dramatises his departure for Spain, and unblinkingly confronts the physical reality of his death: 'He lay owre his machine-gun wi' a bullet in his brain.' The song was a haunting requiem for fallen comrades, but closed on a note of murderous vengefulness: He lies by the Ebro in far away Spain, He died so that freedom and justice might reign; Remember young Foyers and others of worth And don't let one fascist be left on this earth. The Spanish Civil War augmented Jimmie's militancy. He regarded Spain as 'the front line' where 'the bourgeoisie and proletariat stand face to face in open struggle at last, no more arguments, no more trimmings', and he raged against a British political establishment that had prevaricated and fudged as the fascist threat grew. He remained extremely active within the Communist Party: he lectured on working-class history and cultural traditions to the city's YCL and party branches;123 he and Joan participated in a series of Communist pageants in which the party paraded its own distinctive version of history's march through the streets of Manchester; they provided dramatic interludes for communist-led public meetings celebrating the achievements of the Soviet Union, raising funds for the Daily Worker, and collecting cash and food for the Republican cause in Spain." Scotland Sings give both the old and new version, the traditional one got from his mother, Betsy. Jim Carroll
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Subject: Lyr Add: CLARENCE KAILIN (Si Kahn) From: GUEST Date: 16 Mar 10 - 10:27 PM CLARENCE KAILIN By Si Kahn Si Kahn has written a song about his friend Clarence Kailin (Lincoln Brigade veteran from Madison, WI) who died recently. I don't know if it has been recorded. I wonder if the decision to exclude foreign-language songs and translations doesn't introduce an artificial distinction. In context, at least at SCW-related events, the English-language songs were always sung with the others. Gail Malmgreen, Abraham Lincoln Brigade Archives, Tamiment Library, NYU
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War Television Interview 11 days before death
From: GUEST,Josh Dunson - PM Date: 23 Apr 10 - 08:41 AM
Si Kahn has recorded "Clarence Kalin" on his May, 2010 release Courage. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE BATTLE OF GENDESA (The Limeliters) From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 16 Mar 10 - 10:50 PM The Limeliters sang "The Battle of Gendesa" in both Spanish and English. If I remember them correctly, the English lyric for the first verse was If you want to drop a line You must know where you can find me At the Battle of Gendesa Where the fire tries to blind me And I guess the song of the Lincoln Battalion is the one set to Red River Valley There's a valley in Spain called Jarama It's a place that we all know so well For 'twas there that we gave of our manhood Where so many of our brave comrades fell We are proud of the Lincoln Battalion And the fight for Madrid that we made There we fought like true sons of the people As a part of the Fifteenth Brigade Now we're far from that valley of sorrow Though its memory we'll never forget In the midst of the struggles around us Let's remember our glorious dead I've seen a few other verses, but these are the most commonly sung. Charles |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: open mike Date: 17 Mar 10 - 12:58 AM ALBUMS OF SPANISH CIVIL WAR SONGS Pete Seeger has a whole album of songs called Spain in My Heart here: SPAIN IN MY HEART CD it is actually a compilation done by many artists. this is on Appleseed recordings. http://www.appleseedmusic.com/peteseeger/ From: GUEST Date: 17 Mar 10 - 07:54 PM a great album , not yet mentioned, is "Songs Of The Spanish Civil War" by Jamie O'Neil and Michael Smith.....Frank of Toledo From: Amos - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 01:05 PM Several relevant cuts by the Almanac Singers can be found in this album ALMANAC SINGERS: The Sea, The Soil And The Struggle (1941-1942) From: Amos - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 01:09 PM PASIONES: SONGS OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR 1936-1939 By Michael Smith & Jamie O'Reilly SONGS FOR POLITICAL ACTION Disc Four has Pete Seeger and the Almanac Singers performance of six Spanish Civil War Songs SONGS OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR VOLUME 1- PETE SEEGER FOLKWAYS RECORDS Includes Songs of the Lincoln Brigade & Six songs for Democracy reissue of records from the 1940's SONGS OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR VOLUME 2 FOLKWAYS RECORDS,1966
GEORGE AND RUTH-SONGS AND LETTERS OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR by Tony Saletan, Sylvia Miskoe, Dan Lynn Watt, Molly Lynn Watt From: GUEST Date: 14 Apr 10 - 10:05 Al Tocar Diana: AT THE BREAK OF DAWN: SONGS FROM A FRANCO PRISON , by Max Parker
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: MartinRyan Date: 17 Mar 10 - 04:55 AM On the question of language: in recent years, I've taken to introducing a version of the Valley of Jarama with the first verse of Lorca's lament for a dead bullfighter - A las cinco en punto de la tarde.... The effect is, IMHO, quite powerful. Regards |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: Ross Date: 17 Mar 10 - 05:48 AM NA MARA Have you heard any music by Na Mara Information here They have an interest & write songs Rob Garcia Rob was born in London of Spanish descent â€" his parents arrived in the UK as child refugees from the Spanish Civil War in 1937 â€" he trained as a professional musician and classical guitarist, studying at music conervatoires in the UK, Spain and Sweden. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: na-mara - PM Date: 28 Mar 10 - 07:20 AM na-mara's songs about the Spanish Civil War: Part of na-mara's project recently has been to research the history, and write songs about the Spanish Civil War. Our song 'The Bite' is based on the experiences of the British International Brigader George Wheeler. We also perform a song entitled 'Solo por Tres Meses/Only for Three Months' which is about the exodus of the Basque Children from Bilbao in May 1937, following the carpet bombing of Guernica by Franco's fascist forces. We performed both songs at a gathering of the International Brigades Memorial Trust at the Imperial war Museum recently, and perform our Civil War songs at their yearly gathering in July at the International Brigades Statue/Memorial in Jubilee Gardens, at the South bank. For more information and to listen to our songs I would suggest people go to: www.utube.com: type in 'na-mara the bite' and see and hear performances of this song www.myspace.com and type in 'namaramusic' to hear a performance of 'Only for Three Months' and background to the song. www.na-mara.com: for information on na-mara www.facebook.com and type in 'na-mara' www.international-brigades.org.uk: for information on the Internantional Brigades |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild Date: 17 Mar 10 - 07:33 AM SAM WILD AS A SINGER My Dad Sam was a Commander of the British Battalion in the IVth Brigade and was a great singer. Bob Cooney of Aberdeen, , the political commisar, who lived for a long time with the singing Campell family in Birmingham used to stay with us and I have a cyclostyled book of his songs and poems. I wrote and sang one for the 70th Anniversary Celebations and Spanish citizenship awards for surviving veterans, in Barcelona I'll post it later. I took the title from a poem by C Day Lewis and also incorporated some other lnes from veterans we knew. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 17 Mar 10 - 10:25 AM Hi Mike, thank you for your Mudcat post. Something you can definitely help with if you have the time is to post information about your knowledge of the performance context of Spanish Civil War Songs. I did not know that your father, Sam Wild, was himself a singer, so that is very interesting. Did Sam sing in folk clubs or at Brigade reunions or only at home? He will, I guess, have sung many of the old Brigader songs in Spanish and German and maybe some translations. Did he sing any of the songs that were composed in English like Jarama or Jamie Foyers. Did he express any opinions about any of the later songs written about the SCW? I look forward to seeing your song posted.
Regards, Geoff Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 19 Mar 10 - 07:11 AM Geoff As well as songs from Spain my Dad sang a lot of Irish songs, Burns, Blues and comic songs as well as union songs and songs from when he was in the Royal Navy. I learnt Paddy McGinteys Goat, Joe Hill, Cafferty, Frankie and Johnny etc etc . In Spain, like any soldiers they sang mainly to keep their spirits up. They weren't dour Stalinists. There were working class and OxBridge poets writing about their experience and Jim Jump jrs book has a lot in . The original Jarama song was a 'gripe' an a piss take about being left in the trenches so lon and forgotten. They sang about 'There's a valley in Spain called Jarama, it's a place that we all know so well. It was there that we wasted our manhood and most of our old age as well!' Obviously after they left Spain it made a good celebration and rallying song. The political stuff was songs like The Internationale and the revised Jarama at meetings and reunions back home. He liked the Spanish Viva la Quinte Brigada song , with Ay Manuela chorus..But even there they sang in English 'When you cross the Rio Ebro, Rumbala etc -'Better get your bleeding skates on'. I was born in 1939. After Spain I remember reunions and socials where a variety of songs were sung but again in a very mixed way. This was before the 2nd folk revival but at camps, Clarion club and coop meetings and YCL socials, Unity Theatre etc there was a mixed bag of songs. My Dad came with cooney to a few fok clubs but the atnmosphere wasn't his scene. He preferred a pub sing song night. Bob was more comfortable with the folk clubs because of his Campbells association I think.He taught me a lot of bothy ballads as well as political songs and was always learning and writing. My old man was happier in the snug of our local Irish pub The Union on Stockport Road in Manchester.His family were from that community.
He was a bit ambivalent about Jimmy Miller , as he always called him!
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Thank you Mikesamwild: That was very valuable information about Sam Wild ( whom I have seen called the best commander of the British Battalion in Spain). And thank you for posting your great song. Have you recorded it ? There are quite a few points that I will be picking up later such as the history of Alex McDade's Jarama.
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Subject: Lyr Add: COME ALL YE ANTI-FASCISTS RALLY (B Cooney From: GeoffLawes Date: 17 Mar 10 - 07:07 PM COME ALL YE ANTI-FASCISTS RALLY By Bob Cooney To the tune Men of Harlech Come ye anti-fascists rally,from your towns and hamlets sally, Over moor and hill and valley,chase the fascists Now's the time for action if we'd beat reaction Men of steel, make Franco reel For all his crimes we must have satisfaction Each for all, and all for each we stand Comrades in a loyal determined band And thus united, soon we'll see the dawn of victory. Even Eden's foul intervention - criminal " Non- Intervention" - Won't defeat our firm intention- Franco's hopes are doomed Let there be no quaking,history we are making Every foe that we lay low Means for our martyred dead, revenge were taking Each for all, and all for each we stand Comrades in a loyal determined band And - thus united, soon we'll see the dawn of liberty. Did anyone ever hear Bob Cooney sing this? Does anyone know when it was written. The lines: 'Even Eden's foul intervention - criminal " Non- Intervention" - Won't defeat our firm intention...' suggest that it was written while the Spanish Civil War and Anthony Eden's Non-Intervention policy was still going on. Geoff |
Subject: Lyr Add: LITTLE YELLOW ROSES From: GeoffLawes Date: 18 Mar 10 - 07:15 PM LITTLE YELLOW ROSES Editorial Note added 31 July 2012 Below there is a letter from Trevor Peacock who wrote the song in 1962. He says that he does not recall that he wrote the song specifically about the Spanish Civil War but rather that it is about all freedom fighters. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 17 Mar 10 - 07:33 AM
Fay Hield sings Yellow Roses, which is I think a Translation . The words are in Forest Schools songbook it will be on her forthcoming Topic CD.
.............and his suggestion that The words of Yellow Roses are from the Forest Schools songbook. I followed a Google trail and found this
Forest Schools Camps
I lay on my back with the sun in my eyes
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War "Little Yellow Roses" sung by the Fay Hield Trio on the EP Looking Glass - to be a Topic CD around September. And do catch them if you get chance they are good. I haven't been able to recover where I first read this as a Spanish Civil song but I definitely did and Fay believes it dates from then. I have a vague memory about the words being passed through the bar of a cell by a dying man.
Fay got it from a camp fire song book.
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War I couldn't remember the name of the outfit - but that is the one.
Interestingly if you type "Little Yellow Roses+Lyrics" into Google you get the Jackie DeShannon Song which seems to have some borrowings. If it is a Spanish Civil War song then she seems to have knicked her chorus. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 19 Mar 10 - 10:20 AM Thank you Folkiedave for the Jackie DeShannon information. I have googled and her song is here Jackie DeShannon's Little Yellow Roses Elsewhere I saw that it was recorded in 1963 and reached 110 in he US charts. If you compare the lyrics with the Yellow Roses lyrics above then clearly one is a re-written version of the other. I would guess that the Jackie DeShannon version had the harder edged references to death and war removed rather than these being added later. On this link to a Flickr photo of a Jackie DeShannonPromotional Disk we can see the name (Trevor Peacock or Penrock )?? under the title suggesting someone else's hand in the altered song. I suggest that you look at the You Tube link fairly quickly because another You Tube video of the song has been removed for a 'violation' which suggests that Miss DeShannon's team are quite hot on copyright violation. From: Fay - PM Date: 30 Mar 10 - 04:14 PM Hi all, I don't have much more info about Little Yellow Roses from the FSC songbook - only that Sam Lee (a fellow FSCer) told me it was writen as a poem by a man due to be hung the following day and passed through his cell bars to the guard. Jon asked a taxi driver about the tune when he was over there giging last year, and was told it was an old Spanish tune. I do appreciate though that these sources are not rigerously academic! If I hear anything from the process of publication re the DeShannon link I'll let you know... All best, Fay From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 16 Jul 10 - 07:43 AM I just found this about Yellow Roses following a link from Jon Boden's Folk Song a Day project.
http://www.afolksongaday.com/2010/07/14/yellow-roses/#comments From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 16 Jul 10 - 11:16 AM Hi Mike thank you for that information and link about Yellow Roses. I have changed the address which you gave into a clickable link now. The suggestion on the site that the song originated as a prize winning poem BEFORE the Spanish Civil War is very interesting. It is contained in a post on that site by SRD which can be seen directly. HERE but the whole thread on Jon Boden's site is worth looking at not least because Jon gives a very good rendition of the song. I have tried to follow that up on the net and have found a poet of the suggested authorial name, J. Hooker Hamersley, in a search list which has Yellow Roses and other poems listed next to his name – but that is all far too inconclusive to be enlightening. I have emailed SRD in case he/she has a source for the original information. I think that if Adam Faith was singing that set of words to the same tune that Jon Boden uses then he also probably got it from the Forest School Camps. Regards, Geoff
From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 16 Jul 10 - 07:59 PM Adam Faith's words to Yellow Roses are the same as Jon Boden's but not the same as the lyrics Jackie de Shannon sang as Little Yellow Roses,whose words are credited on the recrd to Trevor Peacock. As I said above, this Jackie de Shannon version was probably a re-written version for the pop market. It also possibly has the other lyric as its original. I have been given the email address of the theatrical agents for Trevor Peacock and have sent them a message asking them to pass on my request that Trevor Peacock help us to sort out the provenance of the song(s).
From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 19 Jul 10 - 11:29 AM There was a suggestion culled from Jon Boden's Folksong A Day site ( link above)that the origin of the song Yellow Roses was in a competition winning poem published prior to the Spanish Civil War.I contacted the person who suggested this and she said she got this idea from a book in the Glasgow Reference library which refered to a poem called Yellow Roses by J. Hooker Hamersley which had won a competition although no words to the poem were given. I tried to contact Glasgow Reference library unsuccesfully but in the process was referred to the Ask a Librarian Service. The ASK A LIBRARIAN web service found me the following link to a volume of poems called Seven Voices by J. Hooker Hamersley, published in 1898 and published now on the web by Google Books. On page 3 is a poem called Yellow Roses but its words bear no relationship to the lyrics of the song we are discussing in either of its two recorded versions. If you want to see for yourself click the link and then click the PRINT option on the left side of the page and then the pdf download option which appears. HAMERSLEY'S Yellow Roses The same informant gave me the link to Trevor Peacock's agent and I am still awaiting a response to my enquiry in that direction. Regards, Geoff
From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 25 Jul 10 - 01:47 PM On another post on Little Yellow Roses (HERE) I put some of the words of Hamersley's Yellow Roses poem 1896 which I got off Google Books.. Very corny and not related to this one at all. I hope Trevor Peacock comes up trumps!
From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 30 Jul 10 - 07:15 AM Has anyone traced Sheila Lewis who is said to have set a poem to music. I've asked on a separate thread by her name From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 17 Sep 10 - 06:33 PM ADAM FAITH'S LITTLE YELLOW ROSES on YouTube From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:40 PM Fay Hield can be heard singing Little Yellow Roses on YouTubeHERE From: GeoffLawes Date: 24 Dec 10 Details from where a library copy of the sheet music is lodged
From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 31 July 12 I have just received a reply to the letter which I wrote to Trevor Peacock enquiring about the origin of the song Little Yellow Roses I reproduce the letter below, in full . Dear Geoff, Re-“Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War” What a wonderful subject! I hope your searching will lead to a book, or part of a book. I don’t think I can help much, but here goes… Around 56 years ago I was involved writing scripts, and then some songs for BBC TV. The pop world was in its infancy, and I wrote for, amongst others, Joe Brown, The Vernon Girls, Jess Conrad, and Adam Faith. I seem to remember writing Little Yellow Roses for a B side for Adam in about 1962. I wrote the tune and the lyrics, and John Barry did that particular arrangement, as I worked with him a lot. I hadn’t heard the song for half a century until your letter arrived. I don’t remember writing it for the Spanish Civil War specifically – it was a song for ALL freedom fighters really. So I’m afraid Fay Hield has made the wrong assumption. I’m now wondering if it’s registered with PRS, so I’d better check. I hope this clarifies the situation. Yours, Trevor Peacock There was a PS written on the back of the envelope which saidYes, fully documented with P.R.S.”Little Yellow Roses” Thank you for giving us the provenance of your song Trevor.
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Subject: Lyr Add: OUR OPEN EYES COULD SEE NO OTHER WAY From: mikesamwild Date: 19 Mar 10 - 07:11 AM OUR OPEN EYES COULD SEE NO OTHER WAY Here's that song I wrote 70 years on.I was asked to sing a song at the celebrations but felt there wasn't one that said enough after a lifetime had passed. Originally I meant to sing it to a melodeon or concertina accompaniment but decided it was best unaccompanied.The tune is one I 'made up' but it may have sub conscious echoes of dance tune we heard in Catalunya when we went out there with Sheffield Morris. Our Open Eyes Could See No Other Way By Michael Sam Wild Now three score years and ten have passed The olive tree of peace is green at last And you who took the flag and carry on the fight Must know, as we did, that the cause was right From many lands and tongues we came And no one came for private gain From mills and mines and ivory towers To join the struggle that was ours We were not dupes or mindless slaves We were not pawns in some great game We were at war and yet we were at peace We came to share the fight for freedom and release So if they ask you why we came What brought us here to fight for Spain The only answer we would say 'Our open eyes could see no other way." So plough this earth in which so many lie And sow the seeds that will not die And let the people live as one That all may take their place beneath the Sun Repeat So if they ask you why we came What brought us here to fight for Spain The only answer we would say 'Our open eyes could see no other way." Mike Wild sings Our Open Eyes could See No Other Way on YouTube |
Subject: Lyr Add: SPANISH BOMBS (The Clash) From: GUEST,Chris Steller Date: 19 Mar 10 - 07:45 AM SPANISH BOMBS by The Clash on their "London Calling" album: Spanish songs in Andalucia The shooting sites in the days of '39 Oh, please, leave the vendanna open Fredrico Lorca is dead and gone Bullet holes in the cemetery walls The black cars of the Guardia Civil Spanish bombs on the Costa Rica I'm flying in a DC 10 tonight CHORUS Spanish bombs yo te quiero infinito yo te quiero oh mi corazon Spanish bombs yo te quiero infinito yo te quiero oh mi corazon Spanish weeks in my disco casino The freedom fighters died upon the hill They sang the red flag They wore the black one But after they died it was Mockingbird Hill Back home the buses went up in flashes The Irish tomb was drenched in blood Spanish bombs shatter the hotels My senorita's rose was nipped in the bud CHORUS The hillsides ring with "Free the people" Or can I hear the echo from the days of '39? With trenches full of poets The ragged army, fixin' bayonets to fight the other line Spanish bombs rock the province I'm hearing music from another time Spanish bombs on the Costa Brava I'm flying in on a DC 10 tonight Spanish songs in Andalucia, Mandolina, oh mi corazon Spanish songs in Granada, oh mi corazon
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The following is an interesting extract about Joe Strummer and Woody Guthrie from Nora's Page of the Official Woody Guthrie Website dated May 2001. It is reproduced with the permission of The Woody Guthrie Foundation. The full text of Nora Guthrie's web posting can be read at the link HERE
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Subject: Lyr Add: IF YOU TOLERATE THIS YOUR CHILDREN WILL.. From: GUEST Date: 19 Mar 10 - 08:18 AM IF YOU TOLERATE THIS YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE NEXT mikesamwild mentioned a Spanish Civil War song by Manic Street Preachers (another group associated with Strummer, though he wasn't in it). The song is "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next" Wikipedia has an article about it.
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Subject: Lyr Add: SPANISH CIVIL WAR SONG (Phil Ochs) From: GUEST,Rog Peek Minus Cookie) Date: 19 Mar 10 - 12:25 PM SPANISH CIVIL WAR SONG Phil Ochs Oh, say do you remember 25 years ago, They fought the fascist army, they fought the fascist foe? Do you remember Franco, Hitler's old ally? He butchered Spain's democracy,half a million free men died. Ai, ai, ai, ai-- Did you wonder why? Did you ever pause and cry? And don't forget the churches and the sad role that they played: They crucified their people and worked the devil's trade; But now the wounds are healing with the passing of time, So we send them planes and rifles and recognize their crime. Ai, ai, ai, ai-- Did you wonder why? Did you ever pause and cry? So spend your tourist dollars and turn your heads away. Forget about the slaughter, it's the price we all must pay, For now the world's in struggle, to win we all must bend: So dim the light in Freedom's soul: sleep well tonight, my friend. Ai, ai, ai, ai-- Did you wonder why? Did you ever pause and cry? RP mar10 YouTube SPANISH CIVIL WAR SONG Phil Ochs Another YouTube Version Subject: Phil Ochs Spanish Civil War Song From: GeoffLawes Date:08 Mar 16- 10:07 AM In the recordings Phil Ochs acknowledges that his song is based on " a Spanish Civil War song". I think the tune is taken from the song "El Quinto Regimento", sometimes called " Venga Jeleo" Compare Here on YouTube and Venga Jaleo HERE
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Subject: Lyr Add: LAURIE LEE'S SPAIN (SIXTY YEARS ON) From: mikesamwild Date: 19 Mar 10 - 02:33 PM LAURIE LEE'S SPAIN(SIXTY YEARS ON) This is getting very informative. I have just remembered that Sheffielder Pete Smith wrote a great song about Spain, As I Roved out one Midsummer Morning , juxtaposing the laurie lee idelaism with modern Costas. Roy Blackman of Rotherham, a noted poet and singer) also wrote one , Quiet Flow the Irwell and the Don. it's about Clem Beckett who was killed on the first day of Jarama along with writer and poet Chris Cauldwell ( real name Christopher St John Sprigge) Clem was from Oldham and a noted Speedway rider for Sheffield and Manchester Belle Vue Aces. Hence the title Roy B is an expert on sport and was the TV memory man! I'll get the words to you unless they come on Mudcat first. I'm also chasing some songs by Manus O'Riordan of Dublin whose dad Michael (RIP) was in Spain.My Dad sent the young feller across the Ebro clutching the brigade flag, as he said 'I made a great target, thanks to Sam Wild!' The family are great singers and musicians. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GUEST (Peter Smith) Date: 22 Mar 10 - 09:07 AM Hi, I was talking to Mike Wild last night in the pub and he asked me to forward a copy of a song I wrote in 1997. The idea for the song, although it started out as a poem, came early one morning on holiday in Mercia, Spain, whilst waiting up for my youngest daughter to return from one of the local nightclubs. At the time I was reading Laurie Lee's book 'As I walked out on One Mid Summer's Morning' and looking round I found it hard to believe that all those who went off to fight for the democratically elected gov't in 1936 would appreciate the modern Spain that caters for British tourists. Unforunately things have not significantly changed since the song was written. To my knowledge I am the only person to have sung the song and there is no recording. It was always my intention to make a recording and post it on my website (ispy4.co.uk)HERE but unfortunately I have never quite got round to doing it. LAURIE LEE'S SPAIN (SIXTY YEARS ON) By Peter Smith As I walked out on one midsummer's morning A jubilee since the promise of the name To taste and smell the riches of the morrow To see times effect on Laurie Lee's Spain There's still the heat and the scent of jasmine Cicadas hammering down the heat of the sun But no more mystery and innocence of purpose Franco's costa is the victory won Still the graffiti of the fresco minded Of fashion and pop and doodling fun But no more calls of 'La Pasionaria' A million Dolores in a land of one No more calls from the donkey-peasant Tanned to leather by the sun and pain Only the pose of mobile messengers Ephemeral and plastic like the coast of Spain Bikini ladies as bare as the landscape Shaped by olives and the soaring sun Stirring dreams and dazzling the senses Stymming the thoughts of Owell's man Where are the hopes and promises of yesteryear Where are the bones of Hemmingway's Spain Not drifting on the tides and the sounds of the costas But walking on the morn of an Andean name Stand to the chords of L'Internationale Raise your hopes above the flash mundane Remember the aims of Sam Wild's army On one midsummer's morn in Laurie Lee's Spain As I walked out on a midsummer's morning To taste and feel the past of Spain Only the words of remembered poets On one midsummer's morning in modern Spain |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 20 Mar 10 - 11:37 AM THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN BRIGADE Here is a link to a You Tube video of THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN BRIGADE by John McCutcheon
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE DUNDEE LASSIE (Mary Brooksbank) From: GeoffLawes Date: 20 Mar 10 - 11:48 AM THE DUNDEE LASSIE By Mary Brooksbank
This is the Mary Brooksbank song also known as Eh'm a Dundee Lassie.
Subject: Brooksbank's Dundee Lassie From: GUEST,Mike Arnott - PM Date: 29 Mar 10 - 10:46 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: BLEEDING HEARTS (Si Kahn) From: GeoffLawes Date: 20 Mar 10 - 12:34 PM These Lyrics for BLEEDING HEARTS are from the Digital Tradition BLEEDING HEARTS By Si Kahn A Who's that new guy D Just can't learn to weld a fender A Where's old Eddie E That could do it every time A Fourteen years A And he just empties out his locker D Rolls on out the gate and says, A "I'll see you boys some time." Dmi But now he's lying On some rocky Spanish mountain Bb With his rifle on his shoulder A And his heart pinned to his sleeve Dmi 'Cross the valley C As he sights along the barrel Bb He can see the distant outlines A Of the things that he believes He was never The one who made the speeches Down at Chrysler Where we fought 'em from the line Eddie never Got his picture in the paper He was never out in front But he was always right behind But now he's lying On some rocky Spanish mountain With his rifle on his shoulder And his heart pinned to his sleeve 'Cross the valley As he sights along the barrel He can see the distant outlines Of the things that he believes Don't you think That there's something inside people Like a spring That life winds up so tight Till one day Something snaps and all the power That's been coiled up inside them Comes breaking through like light But now he's lying On some bloody Spanish mountain With his rifle bent and smoking And his heart that pumps and bleeds Through the dying He can feel the future rushing And it feels a little closer To the things that he believes -------------------------------------------- copyright Joe Hill Music 1982 recorded by Si Kahn on "Doing My Job" (1982) This is my favourite Si Kahn song because words and music together create a very dense atmosphere. If you can get your guitar to play some Flamenco chords in the chorus, you may get there. The song is about an American member of the International Brigade in the Spanish Civil War 1936-39. THE LYRICS AND NOTES IN SI KAHN SONGBOOK @war @union @death @Spanish @work filename[ BLEEDHRT MJ |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 20 Mar 10 - 08:26 PM THESE HANDS Here is a link to a You Tube video of THESE HANDS by Glasgow group The Wakes. Mikesamwild also posted a link to the bebo site where the song can be heard at http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3610402984 984 Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 21 Mar 10 - 09:51 AM Thanks for that link Geoff. they are a geat young group and very committed. I was on the same bill at Manchester Mechanics at a memorial last year and it's nice to see they have a CD out. I originally Googled 'The Wake' but they were another indie band from the same area! The thread has spurred me to work on a couple more songs that have been lying dormant , good on you!
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Subject: Lyr Add: CONNOLLY'S REBEL SONG From: mikesamwild Date: 21 Mar 10 - 10:58 AM here's piece by Manus O'Riordan from the recent tribute to Jack Jones at the Imperial War Museum. Connolly's song was adopted by the battalion as a marching song. The British Battalion's anti-imperialism was even more strongly affirmed by its adoption, as one of its marching anthems throughout the course of the Spanish Anti-fascist War, of James Connolly's own "Rebel Song". At the IBMT Pyrenees commemoration ceremonies in the Figueras fortress of Castell de Sant Ferran, there were three International Brigade veterans present: the late Bob Doyle of Dublin and the late Jack Jones, a Liverpool Club supporter, accompanied by his lifelong comrade and friend from youth - notwithstanding the fact that he's an Everton supporter! - this veteran whom, to the end of his days, Jack Jones both addressed and referred to as Young Jackie Edwards, although his senior by only one year! . And in that Catalan fortress, on Easter Sunday 2006, there could be heard, loud and clear, the voices of both of those Liverpudlian brigadista Jacks, as they heartily joined with me in singing these verses by James Connolly: CONNOLLY'S REBEL SONG Come workers sing a rebel song, a song of love and hate, of love unto the lowly and of hatred to the great. The great who trod our fathers down, who steal our children's bread, whose hands of greed are stretched to rob the living and the dead. Chorus: Then we'll sing a rebel song as we proudly march along to end the age-old tyranny that makes for human tears. And our march is nearer done with each setting of the sun and the tyrant's might is passing with the passing of the years! We sing no more of wailing No songs of sighs or tears; high are our hopes and stout our hearts and banished all our fears. Our flag is raised above us that all the world may see, 'tis Labour's faith and Labour's arm alone can Labour free. Chorus Out of the depths of misery we march with hearts aflame; with wrath against the rulers false who wreck our manhood's name. The serf who licks the tyrant's rod may bend forgiving knee; The slave who breaks his slavery's chain a wrathful man must be. Chorus Our army marches onward its face towards the dawn, in trust secure in that one thing the slave may lean upon. The might within the arm of him who knowing freedom's worth, strikes hard to banish tyranny from off the face of earth. Then we'll sing a rebel song as we proudly march along to end the age-old tyranny that makes for human tears And our march is nearer done with each setting of the sun, and the tyrant's might is passing with the passing of the years LINK to sheet music here
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My grandfather recorded several songs, at least two of which I believe were written in English (Connolly Column Song and the Song of the American Consul; the second was my favorite as a kid;) the Smithsonian now has the collection. The PDF with lyrics and stories is free, and you can hear clips for free as well. Al Tocar Diana: At the Break of Dawn: Songs from a Franco Prison, by Max Parker I think the English parts of the Manana song were originally in English, but of course it has lengthy Spanish bits. From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 22 Oct 10 - 07:56 PM I have received an interesting songbook of Spanish Civil War-related songs called THEIR SONGS NOT FORGOTTEN from Lynda Walker in Belfast. It was published in 2006, in honour of the men of the International Brigades and besides containing 22 songs and poems it also carries some interesting information about some of the songs which have not so far surfaced in this thread. I have Lynda's permission to post this information here and will do so in the following posts. Connolly's Rebel Song This is a workers' song written by James Connolly. It first appeared in 1903 in the May number of an Edinburgh paper, the Socialist. (*John McDonnell, 1979, p. 42–43.) The Irish adopted the song as their anthem during the fight against the fascists in Spain. At a meeting in Belfast on 17 May 2006 Manus O'Riordan said that his father, Michael O'Riordan, learnt the words of the song whilst he was fighting in Spain. In Connolly Column Michael writes: "The Scottish comrades sang a song that they had well preserved, but which at that time had almost disappeared in Ireland: Connolly's 'Rebel Song'." (p. 126) *McDonnell, John (1979) SONGS OF STRUGGLE AND PROTEST. Dublin: Gilbert Dalton. |
Subject: Lyr Add: CATALONIA From: mikesamwild Date: 21 Mar 10 - 01:11 PM CATALONIA Here's a link to the album details of Catalonia from a De Dannan recording Catalonia by De Dannan With a comment that it's better than a lot of political songs from after the event. I do think a lot of songs from Socialist Choirs etc fall into the didactic and heavy school. I think Waltzing Matilda, Willy McBride etc are more effective with modern audiences. Strangely I don't remember any songs sung amongst surviving IB'ers about individual men who gave their lives . I think they wouldn't single out any one man as a lot had died. The symbolic or representative Jamie Foyers is a powerful song nowadays but my Dad found 'the bullet in the brain' bit of Jamie Foyers sensationalist and felt that McColl had no right to write the song as he'd not been there. And yet as a Fenian (his description of himself) he'd gladly sing Kevin Barry and Kelly the Boy from Killane!
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 21 Mar 10 - 09:18 PM SITES WITH SONGS IN OTHER LANGUAGES
There are many good songs in Spanish and German, such as the songs collected and recorded by Ernst Busch - but there are already several existing threads on Mudcat which deal with these songs. There are also several fairly comprehensive websites where the history, lyrics and mp3's of these songs can be found.
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Subject: Lyr Add: JUST ANOTHER DIRT TRACK From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work) Date: 22 Mar 10 - 06:51 AM JUST ANOTHER DIRT TRACK By Sue Haithwaite Mike came to the sesh at the Hillsborough last night. We were tlking about this thread. On the Clem Beckett theme Sue Haithwaite from Huddersfield wrote a song for me called 'Just Another Dirt Track' about Clem. I'll get the words and post it on. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GUEST,MC Fat - PM Date: 21 Jun 10 - 09:40 AM
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 24 Jun 10 - 06:53 PM Thank you for getting us the words for ANOTHER DIRT TRACK Jim and please thank Sue for letting her song be posted here. I notice that you originally referred to the song as JUST Another Dirt Track. I put it in the Song List that way and have not yet altered it - could you ask Sue if the Just should be there or not so that I get it right? Regards, Geoff Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GUEST Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:39 AM This is an amazing song that gets me in the heart everytime I hear it. This needs to be recorded asap. PPPPlease please please. X Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: MC Fat - PM Date: 27 Jun 10 - 12:20 PM I sang it with Sue on the main stage at Saddleworth FF. To my knowledge it's not been recorded apart from on a home recording by Sue. From: Red and White Rabbit - PM Date: 25 Jul 10 - 06:12 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: CLEM BECKETT From: GeoffLawes Date: 22 Mar 10 - 08:30 AM CLEM BECKETT By Geoff Lawes I have a song of my own about Clem Beckett which I wrote last year. I went to a Festival across the other side of the Pennines and on the way back I decided to call in and see the Oldham memorial to the International Brigades, having seen it in the book MEMORIALS OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR. I went to the Museum/ Library, where the book says ' Visitors to Oldham will find a permanent memorial to Clem Beckett and his fellow volunteers in the form a beautifully designed relief sculpture in the entrance hall'. I couldn't see it and so I asked at reception and was told that I would need to make an appointment to see it because it is now kept in the store room. So I wrote the song. I sang the song for the first time in public last month during the annual Jarama Commemoration march at the International Brigades Memorial at Jarama, where Clem Beckett died. Clem Beckett Clem Beckett was an Englishman, whose praise I'm proud to sing, Not some media-made celebrity, or millionaire or king. It was skill at motorcycling that made Clem a household name, But he lost his life in battle, in the Civil War in Spain. Chorus Ride on Clem Beckett, and the Wall of Death defy, May your name live on forever and your spirit never die. In Oldham Clem was born and raised, and learned the blacksmith's trade, And it's there his social conscience and, his politics were made. But with speed being Clem's great passion he began to dirt-track race, And by his middle twenties he'd become a speedway ace. Some kick away the ladder when, they've scaled the heights of fame, Some lose their fellow feeling and give up the common aim, But for Clem there was no turning, and no principle betrayed, Instead he formed a union for the riders' mutual aid. Clem criticised promoters who exploited riders' lives, So they took his Speedway licence and withdrew his right to ride. But he still continued riding as his means of earning pay, Though he now rode for his living in a Wall of Death display. In Summer,1936, Spain's army coup began, And Clem was quick to answer to the cry, ' No Pasaran!', On a hillside at Jarama, felled by fragments of grenade, Died the finest dirt track rider that England ever made. Ride on Clem Beckett, and the Wall of Death defy, May your name live on forever and your spirit never die. Ride on Clem Beckett, and the Wall of Death defy, May your name live on forever and your spirit never die. Clem Beckett was an Englishman, whose praise I'm proud to sing, Geoff Lawes sings "Clem Beckett" at the IBMT Rally, 3/7/10 © Geoff Lawes January 2010 Here are some links to further information about Clem Beckett http://www.grahamstevenson.me.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44:clem-beckett&catid=2:b&Itemid=98 http://spartacus-educational.com/SPbeckett.htm http://www.national-speedway-museum.co.uk/clem%20beckett.html Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 22 Mar 10 - 08:58 AM Nice song about Clem , Geoff. My Dad was badly injured in the same engamenet, he was a fellow machine gunner. I'm only here because he survived, and several times after that too.Sorry we couldn't get to the Jarama memorial this year. (When I first saw Richard Thompson 's song title Wall of Death I thought it was about Clem!) There is some great material and pictures on Clem in Sheffield University Fairground Archive, he was a star at the track and in carnivals. Ironially Jarama is now the name of a race track! A fact I have woven into the novel I may never finish! Thanks for the info on editing. I have no problem I just didn't know the ground rules.It would be nice to think sources and credits weren't lost for ever.
I saw Pete Smith last night at the same session Jim mentioned and he said he'd come on here and enter his song it's a good Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:20 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: LAURIE LEE'S SPAIN (SIXTY YEARS ON) From: GUEST Date: 22 Mar 10 - 09:07 AM Hi, I was talking to Mike Wild last night in the pub and he asked me to forward a copy of a song I wrote in 1997. The idea for the song, although it started out as a poem, came early one morning on holiday in Mercia, Spain, whilst waiting up for my youngest daughter to return from one of the local nightclubs. At the time I was reading Laurie Lee's book 'As I walked out on One Mid Summer's Morning' and looking round I found it hard to believe that all those who went off to fight for the democratically elected gov't in 1936 would appreciate the modern Spain that caters for British tourists. Unforunately things have not significantly changed since the song was written. To my knowledge I am the only person to have sung the song and there is no recording. It was always my intention to make a recording and post it on my website (ispy4.co.uk) but unfortunately I have never quite got round to doing it. LAURIE LEE'S SPAIN (SIXTY YEARS ON) By Peter Smith As I walked out on one midsummer's morning A jubilee since the promise of the name To taste and smell the riches of the morrow To see times effect on Laurie Lee's Spain There's still the heat and the scent of jasmine Cicadas hammering down the heat of the sun But no more mystery and innocence of purpose Franco's costa is the victory won Still the graffiti of the fresco minded Of fashion and pop and doodling fun But no more calls of 'La Pasionaria' A million Dolores in a land of one No more calls from the donkey-peasant Tanned to leather by the sun and pain Only the pose of mobile messengers Ephemeral and plastic like the coast of Spain Bikini ladies as bare as the landscape Shaped by olives and the soaring sun Stirring dreams and dazzling the senses Stymming the thoughts of Owell's man Where are the hopes and promises of yesteryear Where are the bones of Hemmingway's Spain Not drifting on the tides and the sounds of the costas But walking on the morn of an Andean name Stand to the chords of L'Internationale Raise your hopes above the flash mundane Remember the aims of Sam Wild's army On one midsummer's morn in Laurie Lee's Spain As I walked out on a midsummer's morning To taste and feel the past of Spain Only the words of remembered poets On one midsummer's morning in modern Spain Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 22 Mar 10 - 09:55 AM Peter Smith that is a well written and well observed lyric. Please DO get round to recording and posting it on your web site and come back here and let us know when you have done it- lyrics need tunes like fish need water. Regards, Geoff
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BITE (McNamara/Garcia) From: GeoffLawes Date: 22 Mar 10 - 12:26 PM THE BITE Here is a You Tube video of THE BITE by Na Mara at Cambridge Folk Club Na Mara, THE BITE AND HERE IN THE STUDIO
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: na-mara - PM Date: 28 Mar 10 - 02:34 PM "The Bite" by na-mara Music: R.Garcia / Words: Paul McNamara This is our homage to all those from the British Isles who volunteered to fight fascism in the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. The willingness to leave the comforts of home and family to lay one's life on the line to fight for an idea and confront evil in a foreign land deserves greater remembrance than these heroes and heroines have received from decent people to date. The song is loosely based on the experiences of George Wheeler who, when interviewed by the Guardian newspaper in 2000, told of his 'bite', a small piece of wood he would place in his mouth as he went onto the battlefield and which he could clench as a small defence against shell shock. This poignant detail moved us both greatly. In recent years we have had the honour to play The Bite at the annual gathering of the International Brigaders in Jubilee Park, London, and have received many requests to record it. Finally, we have honoured our promises. Listeners will note the reference in the song to the 'tricolor d'Espagna'. For those who know only the red and yellow flag of today's Spain, the flag of the elected Republican government of Spain comprised red, yellow and dark purple bands.
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Subject: Lyr Add: AS I WALKED JARAMA VALLEY From: GUEST,Neville Grundy Date: 22 Mar 10 - 08:11 PM My friend Geoff Parry writes a lot of poems, many of which are used as songs. I put a tune to this one and recorded it on a various artists CD called "May It Grow" in 2002. When I recorded it, I sang the first verse of the Spanish Civil War song "Jarama Valley" at the end; fortunately Geoff liked it! I sometimes get the names of the cities in the wrong order in verse two, and sometimes Belfast slips in there. At a St Patrick's Day singaround last week, I sang "Lads from Dublin and from Belfast." Geoff and I both feel honoured that my recording of this song is in the International Brigades archive. It's called, "As I Walk Jarama Valley". AS I WALKED JARAMA VALLEY Words by Geoff Parry, Music by Neville Grundy I came looking for adventure A young lad of twenty-one Joined my brothers from many nations To live or die 'neath the Spanish sun Lads from London and from Dublin Factory workers from Marseilles Boys from Belgrade and from Boston Waited in the line that day Chorus: As I walk Jarama Valley You may see me walk alone But I march with the ghosts of comrades I fought beside so long ago Forward came the fascist army We raised our rifles as one man General Franco must have heard us As we shouted "No Pasaran!" France and England would not help us Still today I don't know why They ignored the bombs and slaughter And let the brave republic die Chorus: etc. If they'd sent us tanks and field guns If they'd sent us fighter planes We could have dealt with evil Franco There'd have been no fascist Spain I sing for all my fallen comrades And the brave fifteenth brigade This song is for the Spanish people Not defeated, but betrayed Chorus: etc. © Geoff Parry 2002. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GUEST,Geoff Parry - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 04:05 AM Thanks to Nev for putting forward the lyrics to "As I Walk Jarama Valley", which was recorded on "May They Grow" in 2002. Thanks to Geoff for posting them here.
Geoff - do you only post lyrics, or would you be interested in poems as well? On our last cd, "That Eastern Wind", I was lucky enough to have two SCW poems read by two well-known actors: Marlene Sidaway (of the IBMT) and Bernard Wrigley ("The Bolton Bullfrog"). If you'd like them on here, I'd be happy to post them. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 06:29 AM GUEST, Geoff Parry:Thanks for your post. This thread is only about songs so don't post poems although from the quality of your excellent lyric As I walked Jarama Valley I would expect them to be pretty good. You said: On our last cd, "That Eastern Wind"... When you recorded your song, was the performance by Neville Grundy AND Geoff Parry or was the recording referred to in Neville's original post by him alone? I will add your name -or the name of your group,in the song list at the top if that is the case.I would like to get it right. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GUEST,Geoff Parry - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 12:27 PM Geoff - I wrote the lyrics to "As I Walk Jarama Valley". Nev Grundy composed the tune and sang it on the cd in 2002. I played no part in the performance, so your existing notes are correct. |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 22 Mar 10 - 08:30 PM TASTE OF ASHES By Bruce Bartol Here is a link for a video using TASTE OF ASHES performed by Laurie Lewis Taste of Ashes - Laurie Lewis This is on SPAIN IN MY HEART CD
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Subject: Lyr Add: ANOTHER VALLEY From: GUEST Date: 23 Mar 10 - 05:28 AM ANOTHER VALLEY Geordie McIntyre wrote and recorded a song called "Another Valley" about the SCW. You might e-mail him for the lyrics and tell him about this project, as he may not be a mudcatter and may have other songs worth a mention. You can contact him at http://alisonmcmorland.com/ Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 23 Mar 10 - 07:01 AM Thank you GUEST for posting about Geordie McIntyre's song ANOTHER VALLEY which I heard him sing during Whitby Folk Week last Summer. It was on my list of songs about which to make further enquiries. And thank you for the contact details which I have noted and then edited out of your post so that Geordie does not get emails offering him a penis extension or the chance to earn a million pounds just for making his bank account temporarily available for the transfer of funds from Nigeria.
Regards, Geoff Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:38 AM
I saw Geordie McIntyre at Whitby Folk Week in August and he very generously gave me permission to reproduce the lyrics and the notes to his song Another Valley as they appear in INVERORAN: Songs by Geordie McIntyre, published in Great Britain by Lyngham House, St Ervan, Wadebridge, Cornwall, PL27 7RT. ISBN 1 903963 20 6 |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE YOUNG MAN FROM ALCALA From: Amos Date: 23 Mar 10 - 10:23 AM THE YOUNG MAN FROM ALCALA The Lincoln Battalion, by cracky, A bunch of brave boys from Kentucky They would hold down the line For weeks at a time Getting sick on Italian spaghetti. Yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yo! A sole ragtag excerpt from a song I once knew. Sorry I don't have more. A
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THE YOUNG MAN FROM ALCALA Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 02 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM
Alcala de Henares was a place where the Fifteenth Brigade was briefly given leave from the Jarama front in the Spring of 1937.
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date:12 Aug 2015 - Some discussion of the song is also to be found in a post to this thread Date: 06 Aug 15 - 09:48 PM under the heading Oh The Lincoln Boys Fought at Jarama (THE YOUNG MAN FROM ALCALA ) with a few posts which follow that. |
Subject: Lyr Add: MARIA DE LA ROSA From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Mar 10 - 08:19 PM MARIA DE LA ROSA
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War
I posted above about Ron Kavana's song "Maria De La Rosa" which appeared on his live "Alien Alert" album in the late 1990s. I wrote down the words to the best of my ability this afternoon and I have Geoff and Joe Offer to thank for easing my mind about copyright issues! So here are my jottings. I must point out that the album insert doesn't print the lyrics and I'm assuming that the place-name "Lérida," a town in Catalonia, is what Ron sings. Also, "Finn O'Mara" is my interpretation of the name. Ron does sing exceptionally clearly. In the intro to the song on the album Ron states that the song is based on a true story thst he gleaned whilst on holiday in the Basque country. I heard him singing it several years before this album was released, in fact I can state that it was on October 1 1993 at the Tree Inn folk club in Cornwall on a night that no-one who was there will forget. I have a somewhat ropey cassette recording of him singing it that night which, in its way, is even more beautiful than the album version. I think it's a truly lovely song. So there! A short recorded excerpt can be heard HERE |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE CONNOLLY COLUMN SONG From: GeoffLawes Date: 25 Mar 10 - 07:11 AM THE CONNOLLY COLUMN SONG mikesamwild posted information and lyrics to Connolly's Rebel Song further up the thread but Gail Malgreen of the Tamiment Library in New York has told me of a song called "Connolly Column Song" ("Proudly we're marching, proudly we're singing.....") which appears to be a different song. Does anyone know anything about this one? From: GUEST Date: 14 Apr 10 - 10:05 PM Al Tocar Diana: At the Break of Dawn: Songs from a Franco Prison, by Max Parker,Track 209 Click on the ► symbol 209 to hear a performance extract. The Connolly Column Song Proudly we're marching, proudly we're singing. The song of our country we all hold so dear Far from our native land, proudly we take our stand We're members of the International Brigades. Think of the guns we bear, think of the clothes we wear Think of the insults endured in thy name Tempered by the sun of Spain, hardened by the wind and rain We're members of the International Brigades. The lyrics above are an extract from the liner notes on the Smithsonian /Folkways Al Tocar Diana site (below) but the next page is missing. I guess there is more to the song . Does anyone know more, or have access to the complete Notes?If you do will you post the full lyrics here please? From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 27 Apr 10 - 06:56 AM The Connolly Column Song
Many thanks to Manus O'Riordan for identifying the tune to which this song is sung as being O'Donnell Abu, From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 27 Apr 10 - 07:22 AM The Connolly Column Song Thanks to Heather Bridger for looking at her paper copy of the liner notes for this song on the Max Parker recording Al Tocar Diana: At the Break of Dawn: Songs from a Franco Prison Heather confirmed that the lyrics which I reproduced above are the complete lyrics as they are reproduced there.
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Subject: Lyr Add: VIVA LA QUINCE BRIGADA From: GeoffLawes Date: 26 Mar 10 - 05:08 PM VIVA LA QUINCE BRIGADA Here are some YouTube videos of Christy Moore's song Viva La Quince Brigada Note that the song is sometimes called Viva La QUINTE Brigada a mistake Christy Moore made in naming the the song when he originally wrote and recorded it but which he later corrected. Also note that the same title is also used for a very well known Spanish song Ay Carmela, AKA Ay Manuela, AKA The Crossing of the Ebro with its distinctive chorus of 'Rumbla, Rumbla, Rumbla-la' Viva La Quinta Brigada with lyrics, YouTube VIVA LA QUINCE BRIGADA performed by Charlie & The Bhoys VIVA LA QUINTE BRIGADA performed by Ronnie Drew VIVA LA QUINTA BRIGADA Christie Moore live at Barrowland Glasgow
Viva La Quince Brigada
Ten years before I saw lhe light of morning
Chorus:
Bob Hillard was a Church of Ireland pastor;
Chorus
Many Irishmen heard the call of Franco.
Chorus
This song is a tribute to Frank Ryan.
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild Date: 27 Mar 10 - 09:51 AM BRIGADERS SINGING AT SAM WILD'S FUNERAL
I've got the Topic EP with the Spanish one on. We played it at my Dad's funeral in Sheffield, along with England Arise by Edward Carpenter. |
Subject: Lyr Add: ONLY FOR THREE MONTHS From: na-mara Date: 28 Mar 10 - 02:37 PM ONLY FOR THREE MONTHS Music: J.Tejedor / Words: Paul McNamara Performed by Na mara More Information Here Here are the lyrics to na-mara's song about the evacuation of the Basque Children from Bilbao in May 1937. To listen to the song go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSGlCcjcd2Y&feature=youtu.be OR http://www.myspace.com/namaramusic
This is a song inspired by the story of Rob's father, Fausto, who was evacuated as a child from Bilbao in 1937 when the city was surrounded and blockaded by Franco's fascists during the Spanish Civil War. Fausto was 9 years old at the time and travelled with his older brother Theo, aged 11. They were amongst 4,000 children brought to the UK to escape the bombs and the fighting. After much shameful prevarication by a British Government keen to appease the burgeoning fascist powers in Europe, the evacuation was undertaken following increased pressure from British socialists and others after the criminal carpet bombing of Guernica by the German Condor Legion. Parents were not allowed to travel with their children and the parting must have been unbearable. In order to console their children, mothers told them it was "only for three months" - "solo por tres meses".
Only For Three Months
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Subject: Lyr Add: SONG FOR UNSUNG HEROES From: GUEST,brendan byrne Date: 28 Mar 10 - 04:29 PM SONG FOR UNSUNG HEROES
I picked up a casette some years ago with songs by Nancy White Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 28 Mar 10 - 06:11 PM Hi GUEST, brendan byrne Thanks for your post. Howard Kaplin sent me a PM to tell me about Nancy White's song SONG FOR UNSUNG HEROES and he put me in touch with her. She said she was happy to send me the words with background information as soon as she can, but cannot do it for a while. Now that I have your post about the song I shall put the title in the song list index at the top and make a click link Thanks, Geoff
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Song For Unsung Heroes
3. And those who gave away their youth |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 29 Mar 10 - 09:11 AM Brigader ED BALCHOWSKY AS A PERFORMER FROM AN EARLIER MUDCAT THREAD HERE Subject: RE: BS: Abraham Lincoln Brigade From: Art Thieme - PM Date: 17 Mar 01 - 12:17 AM Si Kahn did that song you mentioned on my old NPR radio show (The Flea Market--Chicago--early 1980s). He did it because ten minutes earlier I had introduced him to Ed Balchowsky, a veteran of the Lincoln Brigade. Ed was a concert pianist who had lost an arm in a battle near the Ebro River. After surgery, for pain he had been given morphine to which he became addicted. He stayed that way for the next 40 years. Ed would still sing the stirring songs of that war and play the piano with his one hand. (See, also, Utah Phillips fine song about Ed "One Arm On The Ebro".)(EDDIE'S SONG) There were many more than the mentioned 12 members of the Lincolns. As I recall it, there were 3,200 people who felt strongly enough about stopping Franco and fascism that they went over and fought in that war. Only HALF came back alive. Hitler practiced for World War 2 in Spain supporting Gen. Franco with his Luftwaffe and bombs. It's felt by many (as was said) that he could've been stopped if the USA had gone after him then as in Kuwait recently. There were also volks in Germany fighting in the Spanish Civil War against Franco and their own Hitler. These volunteers made up the International Brigades. Yes, these were leftists and Socialists and Communists and Democrats and just anti-fascists. I'll always be proud to've been a friend of Ed Balchowsky's. Many of todays youth choose to use their limited supply of testosterone shooting their wad into the black hole and sponge-like stock market and gambling industry rather than dedicate their lives to humanity and allied causes.-----Because that choice has been made by them --- to indulge their personal greed rather than nurture their altruistic potentials----we are stuck with the the mentality that prevails in so many parts of today's world. I admired Ed Balchowsky's life-long commitment and I definitely prefer his ism to Donald Trump's. Art Thieme
From: GeoffLawes
Here is a link to a brief biography of Ed Balchowsky with photo:ED BALCHOWSKY'S BRIEF BIOGRAPHY
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From Geoff Lawes On YouTube the same film can be seen with an introdction HERE :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoMvBShMJY
The song He went to Paris, written by Jimmy Buffet is about Ed Balchowsky according to this Video HERE, in Part 2 at 1.04 on the counter but the song makes no mention of the Spanish Civil War and doesn't seem to reflect Ed Balchowsky's life except for a reference to playing the piano. See what you think?
From Geoff Lawes This link, HERE , is to a book of reminiscences by Skip Haynes in which he has a chapter ( 8 ) devoted to telling a story about Ed Balchowsky. The words to his own song about Ed Balchowsky can be seen on page 93 but the song doesn't say anything explicitly about the SCW. On page 96 he says that there are at least 7 songs written about him. Does anyone know any that we haven't mentioned in this thread yet?
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 29 Mar 10 - 01:14 PM OTHER MUDCAT THREADS DEALING WITH SPANISH CIVIL WAR SONGS These threads include a wide range of songs in different languages but within them information about English language songs may be found Spanish Civil War music (13) Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help(9) Lyr Add: Los Cuatro Muleros & Los Cuatro Generales (16) Help: Songs of the Lincoln Brigade (25) Lyr Add: Ay Carmela (1)
happy? - July 18 (Spanish Civil War) (2)
CD: Spanish Civil War Songs and Letters (1)
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE OLD MAN'S SONG From: mikesamwild Date: 29 Mar 10 - 03:23 PM THE OLD MAN'S SONG Has anyone mentioned The Old Man's song about 'one long bloody war' Sorry if I missed it. I know it keeps getting new verses added as we go on with just and evil wars Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild - PM Date: 01 Apr 10 - 08:28 AM
The Old Man's Song is on Ian and Lorna Campbell, The Circle Game 1968 . Transatlantic TRA 163 http://www.orpheusweb.co.uk/gatherer/scottish/artists/ianc.html Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: zozimus - PM Date: 01 Apr 10 - 05:39 PM Hi Geoff, The Old Man's Song was written by Ian Campbell and recorded by the Ian Campbell folk Group. The lyrics are in Digitrad. Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 02 Apr 10 - 06:23 PM THE OLD MAN'S SONG sung by CHRISTY MOORE The Old Man's Song sung by The Ian Campbell Folk Group The Old Man's Song By Ian Campbell Tune: Nicky Tams At the turning of the century I was a boy of five, My father went to fight the Boers and never came back alive. My mother, left to bring us, up no charity would seek, So she washed and scrubbed and scraped along on 7/6 a week. When I was twelve I left the school and went to get a job, With growin' kids my ma was glad of the extra couple of bob. I knew that better schooling would have stood me in better stead, But you can't afford refinements when you're struggling for your bread. When the Great War started I didn't hesitate, I took the royal shilling and went off to do my bit. We fought in mud and sweat and blood three years or thereabout, Then I copped some gas in Flanders and was invalided out. When the war was over and we'd finished with the guns, We got back into civvies and I thought the fighting done. I'd won the right to live in peace but I didn't have no luck, For soon I found I had to fight for the right to go to work. In 'twenty six the General Strike found me out on the street, For I'd a wife and kids by then and their needs I couldn't meet. But a brave new world was coming and the brotherhood of man, But when the strike was over we were back where we began. I struggled through the Thirties, out of work now and again, I saw the Black Shirts marching and the things they did in Spain. But I raised my children decent and I taught them wrong from right, Then Hitler was the lad that came and showed them how to fight. My daughter was a Land Girl, she got married tae a Yank, They gave my son a gong for stopping one of Rommel's tanks. He was wounded just before the end and convalesced in Rome, Married an Eyetye nurse and never bothered to come home. My daughter writes me once a month a cheerful little note, About their colour telly and the other things they've got. She has a son, a likely lad, he's just turned twenty-one, Now she says they've called him up, to fight in Vietnam. Now we're on the Pension and it doesn't go too far, Not much to show for a life that seems like one long bloody war. When you think of all the wasted lives it makes you want to cry, I don't know how to change things but by Christ we'll have tae try. GeoffLawes 09/03.216 I have just found that Scottish Brigader Bob Cooney, can be heard singing this song at an International Brigades reunion conference held in Loughborough, 30 to 40 years ago. It is on a tape recording held in Manchester Central Library The reference card for the tape recording may be seen using this linkHERE |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 29 Mar 10 - 06:14 PM BRIGADER BOB COONEY AS A SINGER Bob Cooney was an International Brigader and also a singer. While in Spain he was political commissar of the British Battalion and during the sixties and seventies sang in British Folk Clubs.He was a friend of Ian Campbell and his family and sang on their L.P The Singing Campbells (Topic 12T120, 1965) Article about Bob Cooney as a singer LP cover and track list An Old MUDCAT Thread about Bob Cooney BOB COONEY ON Dick Gaughan's site
Another site with information about Bob Cooney
http://aberdeenvoice.com/2011/06/the-amazing-life-of-bob-cooney-part-1/
http://aberdeenvoice.com/2011/06/the-amazing-life-of-bob-cooney-part-2-fighting-fascism/ From: GeoffLawes Date: 23June 2011 Chris Coe told me that Bob Cooney taught her The Licht Bob's Lassie which can be found in the DIGITRAD HERE I have also been given a copy of WHEN OF HEROES WE SING -Songs & Poems of Bob Cooney by Neil Cooney, Bob's nephew. These are the titles included in this booklet published in 1982 for the Aberdeen Folk Club. HASTA LA VISTA MADRID (poem) WASHINGTON CHURCH (to the tune of Hosannah, Loud Hosannah TORRY BELLE (BARREL DODDIE) (to the tune of 'Gin I Were Where The Gaudie Rins) MORAL OLD MEN( to the tune of Lord Franklin) 1305 ( to the tune of Let Him Go, Let Him Tarry) GIRLS OF DAGENHAM (with printed music) THE REBEL CORE ( to the tune of Paddy On The Road) DAY OF ERIN GO BRAUGH (with printed music) JAMES CONNOLLY ( to the tune of Come All Ye Tramps And Hawkers) PEACE IS THE ANSWER ( to the tune of Waltzing Matilda) AULD MAN AT HEAVEN'S GATE (poem) COME YE ANTI FASCISTS RALLY ( to the tune of Men of Harlech)
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Subject: Lyr Add: COOKHOUSE From: GeoffLawes Date: 30 Mar 10 - 06:16 AM COOKHOUSE Here is a link to a YouTube Video using the song COOKHOUSE Cookhouse Performed by Pete Seeger & The Almanac Singers From the Album: Canciones De Las Brigadas Internacionales - Songs Of The International Brigade. There is an old cookhouse not far away Where we get sweet damn all three times a day. Ham and eggs we never see, damn all sugar in our tea, and we are gradually fading away. Old soldiers never die, Never die, never die, Old soldiers never die They just fade away.
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Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: Fay Date: 30 Mar 10 - 04:14 PM Hi all, I don't have much more info about Little Yellow Roses from the FSC songbook - only that Sam Lee (a fellow FSCer) told me it was writen as a poem by a man due to be hung the following day and passed through his cell bars to the guard. Jon asked a taxi driver about the tune when he was over there giging last year, and was told it was an old Spanish tune. I do appreciate though that these sources are not rigerously academic! If I hear anything from the process of publication re the DeShannon link I'll let you know... All best, Fay |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 30 Mar 10 - 07:15 PM Hi Fay, thanks for posting. Have you seen my post which carried the link to the YouTube video of Jackie DeShannon singing Little Yellow Roses? I have just moved that post so that it is consolidated with all the other posts about this song. It can now be found by using the click link for Yellow Roses in the Song List in my initial post. Does she use the same tune as you? Do you call the song LITTLE Yellow Roses or just Yellow Roses? Was Jon's gig in Spain or the US? Geoff |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes Date: 31 Mar 10 - 09:40 AM QUARTERMASTER'S SONG
Quartermasters Song - Pete Seeger and the Almanac singers |
Subject: Lyr Add: JARAMA From: GeoffLawes Date: 31 Mar 10 - 12:57 PM JARAMA By Alec (Alex) McDade There's a valley in Spain called Jarama, That's a place that we all know so well, For 'tis there that we wasted our manhood, And most of our old age as well. From this valley they tell us we're leaving But don't hasten to bid us adieu For e'en though we make our departure We'll be back in an hour or two Oh, we're proud of our British Battalion, And the marathon record it's made, Please do us this one little favour And take this last word to Brigade: "You will never be happy with strangers, They would not understand you as we, So remember the Jarama Valley And the old men who wait patiently". This is probably the most widely known song written in English to come out of the Spanish Civil War. When Alex McDade, from Glasgow, wrote it in the Spring of 1937 it was as a parody of the well known American song Red River Valley and it made wry and humorous comment upon the soldiers' conditions on the Jarama front where the British Battalion was then stationed. The lyrics later went through a number of changes which are outlined in this Wikipedia article HERE Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 01 Apr 10 - 10:56 AM On the subject of Alec McDade's Jarama:in BRITONS IN SPAIN by William Rust which was originally published in January 1939 after the British Battalion had returned from Spain but before the official end of the Spanish Civil War,Rust reproduces the Jarama words which I gave above and also says about the origin of the song 'The long-expected rest came at the end of April, when the Battalion went into billets at Alcala de Henares. But before they had time to shake themselves down they were back in the line again, and stayed there until the middle of June. It was upon the return to the line that Alex McDade of Glasgow wrote the following song (to the tune of ""Red River Valley"), which, because of its humorous cynicism, became popular in all Battalions.' Does anyone have access to, or information about, an earlier publication of the Alec McDade lyrics? The Wikipedia article HERE says: 20/08/15 'The earliest known version of the lyrics was written by Alex McDade, of the British Battalion, XV International Brigade and published in 1938 in The Book of the XV International Brigade by the Commissariat of War, Madrid, 1938.' The book referred to, The Book of the XV International Brigade was edited by Irish Brigader Frank Ryan,and I think I remember reading that it was published at about the same time as he was captured which would make it April 1938. Does anyone have access to this book and if so could you see if the lyrics printed are the same as the ones that I posted above? ,From: GeoffLawes Date: 20 Aug 2015 I have now checked in a facsimile copy of The Book of the XV International Brigade published by Warren and Pell in 2003 and the words are exactly the same as those which I gave above. I have read elsewhere that the words were printed in the Battalion or Brigade newspaper and it was there suggested that the words were quickly changed because the higher ranks did not like the implied criticism ( I shall have to track down where I read that).Do you Mike, or does anyone else,have access to Volunteer for Liberty or Our Fight so that an earlier publication could be checked? In the Wikipedia article ( link above) it says of one early adapted version of the song 'According to scholar, Jim Jump, it was first published on 8 January 1939 in London in a booklet for an British Battalion reunion' Does anyone have the Jim Jump book which is here referred to? Another point worth remarking on is that Rust's account mentions Alcala which indicates some of the background of another Spanish Civil War song, The Young Man From Alcala. I have also just realised that today is the 71st anniversary of the official end of the Spanish Civil War. From: GeoffLawes - PM Date: 06 Feb 11 - 10:31 AM Here are some performances of Jarama/ Jarama Valley with a variety of lyrics and tunes: EWAN Mc LENNAN PETE SEEGER & THE ALMANAC SINGERS WOODY GUTHRIE ARLO GUTHRIE & PETE SEEGER DAVID ROVICS The Wakes |
Subject: RE: Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War From: mikesamwild Date: 01 Apr 10 - 08:20 AM After the initial battle they dug in at Jarama and the Republicans were there for ages as it dragged on. The cookhouse song sounds like There is a happy land far far away , good for lots of parodies in lots of wars. Didn't Ewan McColl, write the Old Man's Song . I heard it sung in a pub session recently with an added verse about Iraq and Afghanistan This is a very late response to your question Mike but the old Man's Song/ Tale is in the Mudcat Digitrad HEREand the words are attributed to Ian Campbell,set to the tune Nicky Tams. GeoffLawes 12/08/2015 |
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