BS: Unity

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 06:38 PM

You obviously either haven't read all my prior posts, or didn't comprehend them. Actually I've held up women with much esteem, but either men or women, when they get nasty toward the opposite sex, is rather childish, and unbecoming. When they try to emulate the opposite sex, I find it equally unbecoming. The two sexes should try co-operating with each other, rather than competing..that works. The whole 'feminist movement' was, and is a farce, and started by, not women, but the international bankers to expand the tax base.(read earlier posts). during the period, between the '60's and the 80's there were big pushes for men to learn about the needs of women, as to understand them, and to not 'hurt' them, sometimes inadvertently)...was there any thing given to women to learn about men??...Nope! The 'feminist movement' has done far more to hurt women and families, by women who took it seriously than men ever did. Women have ruthlessly been exploited by the political parties, while they say they are 'helping' them! As far as equal pay for equal work, no problem,and as an employer, never had I a problem with that. That being said, the best work a woman can do, WHO HAS INFANTS AND SMALL CHILDREN, is with them, and I admire women who can do that, and men who arrange their work to accommodate that family structure. So, calm down....and the links I posted, (which the women seemed to object more to than the men) were lifting up these highly professional women for their work, and admiring them for not forsaking their children to do that!!! I think your flying off the handle, is like TIA's, and you may be embarrassing yourself, so think it through..what I've said, is in total admiration!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bee
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 08:04 PM

"When they try to emulate the opposite sex, I find it equally unbecoming. The two sexes should try co-operating with each other, rather than competing..that works. The whole 'feminist movement' was, and is a farce, and started by, not women, but the international bankers to expand the tax base.(read earlier posts). during the period, between the '60's and the 80's there were big pushes for men to learn about the needs of women, as to understand them, and to not 'hurt' them, sometimes inadvertently)...was there any thing given to women to learn about men??...Nope! The 'feminist movement' has done far more to hurt women and families, by women who took it seriously than men ever did. " - GfI

I may have expressed my annoyance a little too harshly, but now, seeing you post nonsense like this, it's hard to feel contrite. Of course both governments and corporations are eager to take advantage of wage-earners whoever they are, but to imply that the womens' liberation movement couldn't possibly have been conceptualised, organised, and carried out by women for women is beyond insulting and verging on complete contempt. Obviously you weren't there, and rather than learn something about the actual history of women's long struggle for rights, you've decided to opt for a conspiracy theory instead.

What do you think women had always done, previously, besides 'learn about men', seeing as understanding men was every Western woman's best hope of not being impoverished?

I've personally been through the whole litany of "you can't have this job because you are a woman, you can't come in this establishment because you are a woman, you can't have birth control without your husband's consent, you can't be an artist because you are a woman, you get paid less because you're a woman, you get fired first because you're a woman, you can't get a loan because you're a woman", and all the other BS we used to deal with as a matter-of-fact. What has come of feminism has improved my prospects, my income, my quality of life, and my relationships with the men in my life, including first and foremost my husband, who would not take kindly to being labelled 'feminized'.

If you admire and care for women as you say you do, then why do you denigrate and treat with contempt the very uprising which allows us the freedom and scope we now have? Would you speak the same way of, say, the early labour movement, the struggle for unions? Was the Civil Rights struggle manufactured by the banks and corporations? If women are getting angry whan you say something, do you think they might have a good reason, or are you all right with putting it down to 'women flying off the handle'?

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 08:27 PM

Hear, hear, Bee!

There are men out there - not that I'm naming names - who never have grasped the concept of feminism. Feminism, in its pure form, does not mean the denigration of the male of the species. It, instead, holds high the banner espousing the female of the species as being of as great value as the male.

And don't give me the tired 'some of my best friends' routine. Women know when they are being demeaned, even if men don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:25 PM

I just re-read my post, to see if your comments made sense, in the context, that I wrote mine. When I said the 'feminist movement' was started by international bankers to expand the tax base, I was speaking of this present one, and I was quoting an exact quote from David Rockerfeller, who himself, had a hand in it. As so far as the rest of it, I think I was very clear, to include men and women who emulate the other sex, and said several times that I held women in high esteem, and ended it with the word admiration..re-read it again. Furthermore, When it comes to the musical group that we were originally talking about, Maev, one of the singers is and attorney, Orlagh, the harpist, has 6 years of theology school, Chloe, was only 15 when she did their first concert with them, Lisa Kelly was accomplished in musical theater, Mairead has three different degrees in music plus working for her doctorate, and is credited with some of the arrangements. What is there that you women object to??

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:11 PM

..Never mind, I withdraw my closing question on the previous post!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:21 PM

GfS asks: "What is there that you women object to??"

I can't speak for "you women", but I bet a lot of it is on the following list….

Let's start with the phrase "you women". Remember the trouble Ross Perot got into for calling blacks "you people"?

Same thing. In this usage, women is a pejorative.

"And being as the American men have been feminized so much, they have all this enthusiasm, being swept up by the celebrity, and momentum, that O-Blabbo has, without much logic, to even look into his accomplishments."

This equates "feminized" with star-struck and illogical.

"I think you mistook me....femininity is great....on a woman!...on a man, it leaves them unmanly men, who are more emotional, than, a whole man needs to be....even for his woman. Maybe you've gotten your man to be a weak man, which you can control..in which case, disrespecting him, is just around the corner..next step is having your needs not met...by your man!"

Not sure who you're talking about but this implies that some (unspecified) women feminize their men so they can control them.

"Ebbie, yeah, I'm old fashion..a man who loves his wife, without being her monkey-boy...and because of that she knows and feels love...and in fact is...you are, on the other hand...THE NEW WOMAN..you grew balls and loved your husband like a wife!!!..yeah, you get him to do what you want, ..too bad you can't look into his mind"

No explanation necessary.

"I'm sure my other comments are going to raise the ire of women who are self-absorbed controlling shrews, who don't want it revealed..but..well so what...I'm not wrong...just not buying into their garbage of 'marital bliss, my way!'"

Ditto.

"The feminist 'movement', is just that...a political movement, It should never be taken seriously as a contributer to mental heath, or stability, or beneficial to children....and that is NOT up for debate!!"

Ditto ditto.

"There is no greater role on the planet, for a woman than to bond, nurture and teach her children,and loving her husband!! Any other notion is based in selfishness, and is an abdication of the highest, equal place of importance in our nations!!!!!"

Spoken by a man. What if some women (or any particular woman) does not see it this way? Oh right – that's "selfish".

You speak of your admiration for women, but it has a strong whiff of condescension. Maybe even domination - your admiration seems to extend to women who are fulfilling roles that you deem acceptable. The others are ball-toting, ranting, antifamily shrews.

But that's just a wild guess. I'll let others speak for themselves.

And trust me, I am not angry, defensive, nor embarrassed. You asked – I answered.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:22 PM

Oops. I am sorry. Cross-posted. You withdrew. I also withdraw all of the above.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 11:42 PM

There's actually no real cause for disagreement here, in my opinion. It's easy to misconstrue someone else's statements as an attack on "women in general" or "men in general" or anything else like that when they are often not so intended. The phrase "you women", for instance in the context GfS used, could be interpreted as being directed toward the whole female gender (which I doubt it was)...or it could be interpreted as directed toward two or three specific individuals who are arguing back and forth with GfS on this thread.

How one interprets anything like that will be based on an initial assumption...a reaction...but the initial assumption may be incorrect. The reaction may then be inappropriate.

And it may then draw back in return another inappropriate reaction.

I have seen nothing to indicate that GfS is denigrating women. To the contrary he is helping to point out how women have been manipulated by a lot of clever marketing and social restructuring schemes over the past century that have been foisted on humanity by a ruling class of people (most of them very, very rich men) who don't give a hoot about women's rights, never did, and never will. What they do give a hoot about is:

1. Dividing and conquering the public.
2. Stirring people up against one another over many divisive issues and thus keeping them disunited, confused, and powerless.
3. Getting a whole lot richer in the process.
4. Maintaining and enlarging their power.

He is quite right that men and women should not compete against each other, and should not be conned into seeing one another as adversaries. We are not adversaries. We are natural partners in love, respect, and understanding and we were born to share a common purpose.

When men and women become afraid of one another a lot of fear and loneliness and anger arises in society, and that fear can lead to crime, broken relationships, and great sorrow. I do not blame either men or women for that having occurred. I blame power and profit-seeking forces in society which have divided men and women against one another for the most ignoble of purposes: profiting on other people's suffering. They have divided races and religions against each other for much the same reasons.

We have been subtly (and not so subtly) encouraged to attack and denigrate one another for generations now by those oligarchic ruling forces at the very top of the power pyramid. (picture a pyramid dominated by a great EYE...an eye that watches...then imagine who stands behind that EYE. It's on your dollar bill.) We have been taught to be paranoid and to look constantly for offense from others, and to lash out in defensive anger. This is not wise. It's the politics of fear and division. We should not let ourselves be misdirected in that fashion, because we were all born to love and help one another, not to fight competitive emotional battles of attrition in a futile "war of the sexes"...or a racial war...or a war between religion and atheism...or a war between competing religions.

All of these wars are unnecessary and futile...but they serve those few who benefit from the fighting. And they are a great distraction too, aren't they? It's very useful for the Great Oz to keep the common citizens endlessly squabbling amongst themselves, and that is the intention. They become their own jailors. What could be more convenient from the point of view of he who builds the jails?

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:49 AM

Very well said. I'm impressed!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 02:06 AM

Akenaton ; I watched the videos you posted, and one of them (Mo ghile Mear was also performed by 'Celtic Woman' so I posted the link, in case you wanted to see it. Bare with it till the end,it picks up radically. Amos: If you're out there, here's another! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b9xzS_rDo

Plus, here is a version of 'Scarborough Faire' that is remarkable...check the power in her voice after the break...Hayley was only 17 years old when she sang this..all the rest grit your teeth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45W-Lq7ftw

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 02:07 AM

Sorry, forgot to post my name on the previous post

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 02:51 AM

Guest is correct about the feminist movement tho'

The role of mother and guardian of children has been utterly devalued.
I see it all happening in my small community!

Women were promised a "better purpose in life," "be your own woman"
Have a "career"...These are things which advantage The System, not women.

I see young women abandoning very small children into one of the many "wean farms" which are springing up. Some say these places are well run but they lack the magic ingrediant ....a mothers love.

for every "new woman" who has a glittering career or dominates the boardroom there are a million underpayed skivvies.

By the way this post is from someone who loves and admires women...they have just made a bad career move...Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 10:43 AM

i try not to get hooked on blogs, other than just reading them. once in a while, i throw in a thought, or two, but this one has gotten so fired up, that i just had to. Ake,is so correct, as with gfs, and little hawk, and while blasting the womans movement, i see honest concern about the whole of our society, in their posts. imho, the over compensation regarding the ridiculousness of women's issues have left us, with a bunch of weak namby-pamby jerks, who are afraid to step up, and call a spade a spade. tia on the other hand seems predisposed to hostility, and takes a perfectly sane coherent statement and makes it something ridiculous, and embarrasses himself, and all who support his/her nonsense! so to him/her, i'd suggest, put your stupifying anger away, and instead of picking a small phrase, out of context and blowing it up, to support your hostile disposition, then attempting to make everyone's world as small as yours, try considering another point of view, that happens to be clearer, and far more sane! little hawk's last post shows that he understood exactly what gfs's post was about, and the two of them, are dead on target, and say it intelligently.

also watched the two dvd's with my wife and family. wholesome, talented, uplifting and a fantastic show beyond belief. a definite 'yes' vote for women!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:01 PM

Little Hawk, how you could read the list of offensive out-takes from GFS' posts, starkly pointed out by TIA, and not see anything wrong with them is beyond me.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:19 PM

Well, being the resdient authority on womenz I'd jus' like to point out that they caan't help themselves 'casue they is all wired wrong... Yup, you ever look at a wiring diagram of a womenz??? It looks like a cross between spagetti and a road map of Wes Ginny... See, that's what makes 'um nutz...

Now a man got simple wirin'... Heck you could draw a wiring diagram of a man on the back of a Wendy's napkin... Aho nuff can... I've done it myself...

But nevermind wiring an' all that, I loves all womenz... I don't care if they is nutz... I don't care if they got tatoos, er hairy legs, 'er they big 'er small, black, white, green 'er yellow... I loves um all... Okay, some I loves more than others... Like Ebbie and TIA amd Janie and Kat and dianavan and SRS and you all know who you are... Ummmmmm, Fantz is alot harder to get that heart pumpin' love up for but, okay, I reckon seein' as she is a womenz than I loves her, too even if she is extra nutz...

As fir men having a feminine side, well yeah, that ain't all bad... At least the pictures get hung staright on the walls even if the toidy seat don't always end up where it's 'spose to be...

What else??? Hmmmmmm??? Well, that 'bout sums up this little situation...

Bobert (Resident womenz authority in residence...)

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:27 PM

because bee, he's obviously an intelligent person, who isn't thinking emotionally, but with his whole brain. you should try it, it works! and as far as i see it, gfs, and what he has brought in here, is far more pro human, including all humans, including women, than those axe to grind, idiots!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 01:03 PM

Interpretation is in the mind of the beholder. Two people can read the exact same thing and draw radically different conclusions. I'm pretty sure that I get what GfS is talking about here...and I see no attack on women in what he says. I see a passionate defence of human beings in general, men and women both.

He did say some satirical things about the Buffy Sainte-Marie video...and it seems to me that that was a joke. He was being satirical. If you took it seriously, though, then you would get the opposite message from the message he was really sending.


Bobert - LOL! Geezus...lookit thet crazy danged hillbilly puttin' himself on the firing line agin' and yakkin' on about his bein' thuh resident expert on the womenfolk in these here parts. Crazier than a yaller dog! That was the best laugh I had so far today.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bee
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 04:05 PM

All righty then. By these lights I am, like Ebbie and other women here, according to GfS, a 'new woman' who 'grew balls and loved my husband like a wife', a 'self-absorbed controlling shrew', my gratitude to feminism is risible, as 'it shouldn't be taken seriously.... - and that is NOT up for debate'. lansing opines I am 'thinking emotionally', not with my ' whole brain' (and I should try it). I also have an ax to grind and am an idiot.

Apparently addressing anything I actually said is not an option. Mission accomplished, b'ys, no further point in expressing my opinions or representing for reality here.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 04:31 PM

Why does it have to be about you personally, Bee? No one would be in any position to make such judgements about you unless they had known you for some while in 3-D life, seems to me. Then maybe...or maybe not.

One can't just sum up a person's character on the basis of a few remarks they made in the heat of a discussion on the Internet. And that goes for any of us here. What I mean is...that goes both ways.

Seems to me that people here are just reacting and over-reacting to what someone else said (some part of it)...and then accusing the other person of doing the same thing to them...and it's going back and forth like a pingpong ball. And GOSH, where have I seen that before? Oh, on about 500 other contentious Mudcat threads somewhat like this one.

I'm a Libran. I've heard that Librans like to create harmony, end conflict, and bring opposing sides together. It seems to be true in my case. I can usually plainly see the good intentions and high ideals of people on both sides in an argument, and I can see the common ground they both share.

I bet there isn't one of us in this discussion who does not in his or her heart honor and respect women.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 04:38 PM

YEah, but Bee, those are awful tiny lights, aimed only at the interior of Lansing's medulla trapezoidalia, not the light of general agreement or even insight.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 04:44 PM

Careful Amos your anima is showing :)

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 05:21 PM

I figure every soul is both male and female. Just a theory, but it sounds right to me. The trouble is, when you incarnate into a human frame then you must manifest the one outwardly and not the other. The other remains implicit and unseen. Then all the people around you start telling you how to "act"...according to your outward role as a boy or a girl...and for most people they never question those roles that are placed upon them. They are usually afraid of the implicit "other" that is hidden within them. That leads to problems in relating to the opposite sex.

Have you had any recall of living another life as a female, Amos? I have. It was interesting, because it seemed so totally natural...just as easy as changing one set of clothing for another. I could see right away what is appealing about being in either gender.

I figure that either gender offers equally good possibilities...but, of course, that depends to quite an extent on the nature of the society one finds oneself living in at the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 01:04 AM

I'm not angry, not embarrased, and not afraid to step up to the plate. And if I am stupifying (sic), that makes me proud. Thank you.











stupefying: astounding, amazing, startling, surprising
(see visualthesaurus.com)





Clearly there is a divide across which some (even very intelligent) people cannot see. But I forgive all - even if there is nothing to forgive. And hope you forgive me (with the same caveat, of course).

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 01:39 AM

That sounds like an excellent plan from which all of us can proceed to the next thing, whatever that may be.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 11:38 AM

'Some researchers say that men can have 'women's brains' and that women can think more like men.'

Get a brain sex profile
and find out if you think like a man or a woman -

a series of visual challenges and questions used by psychologists in the BBC One television series Secrets of the Sexes'

yup I have done it :)

   Graphs showing indication of the predominance of male/female brain types amongst viewers that took part in the online test during a week of films exploring differences in male and female brain types.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 12:23 PM

Frankly I think it all started with the 16th Amendment. Who konws where it will end.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 01:07 PM

I suppose the tribulations of various identities can add up as a psychological bent to act in one or another role, including "masculine" or "feminine" roles. But that is just a bunch of psychosomatic overlay; there is nothing inherent in a being to act like a body in any respect, especially that of gender, except habit.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 01:24 PM

Habit and cultural norms would have to be a very large part of it. I think there are certain patterns of thought and attitude and approach to life that are more typical of females on average or more typical of males on average, but one can always find some individual exceptions to that too.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 02:39 AM

So, what is it Tia? In the second paragraph, you say you are married to a woman scientist.....So, does that mean all your anger is based on a lie?..or are you in fact a woman, trying to be a man, (but your pms-ing on here?..So when you post on your posts, quoting me, about 'women trying to grow balls'...etc, etc..what is it?? I think you diverted every thing YOUR way, and deceived everyone one on here('cept me), and brought out all the hostility, when I, on the other hand, was holding up real women's concerns about nurturing her children and things to admire, and the value of a mother's love toward her children, as Akenaton, pointed out so clearly. You posted so much out of context, yet failed to answer the simple questions I posted, about children, and was it worth more to make an extra buck, or the holy love, a woman has for her children. You suckered all the real women into buying into your pose, when there was so much being given to actually re-enforce their femininity. Do you also pose as a woman on instant messenger to get your jollies, too??? Or, are you just a liar? I believe you owe someone on here, maybe several people on here, an apology, and if you stopped the nonsense, maybe you'd learn something, from honest exchanges of ideas and input!!!!!



Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 03:16 PM

"And being as the American men have been feminized so much, they have all this enthusiasm, being swept up by the celebrity, and momentum, that O-Blabbo has, without much logic, to even look into his accomplishments."

I am married to a woman scientist who would kick your sorry ass around the block for saying that "feminine" means illogical and celebrity-awed. I'd do it myself, but I am way too feminized.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 03:17 AM

gfs!!! dude, you're hot. right smack dab on the money. tia, you've been dusted! akenaton you are to be commended for sorting through, and seeing, and admitting, to all of us, that there is nothing more valuable as a woman, than the nurturing of her children, instead of pursuing selfishness. little hawk, you're cool too dude. you saw through it, too.and thank you gfs, for all the great music you posted!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Emma B
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 06:25 AM

If you look at the Aunt Sally thread you will read that the expression describes someone who is the object of attack, both easy and unwarranted.

I believe that Tia (whoever he or she is) correctly stated that 'I can't speak for "you women"' but pointed out, quite accurately, the usually derogatory sense in which expressions like 'you people' have been used to sterotype black people and other groups.

As Little Hawk has said 'One can't just sum up a person's character on the basis of a few remarks they made in the heat of a discussion on the Internet' and yet Gfs accuses Tia as posing as a woman to get 'jollies' whereas I see an honest man (and not some feminized freak of a fertile flawed imagination) defending the equality of fellow human beings with the same dreams and aspirations for self fulfilment

GUEST,lansing
The women who have to work in order to feed and clothe their family are not 'pursuing selfishness' they are, as Little Hawk has described, equal 'victims' of a post industrial society.

Although it is women who give birth to children the nurturing and rearing is a joint responsibility and I know of instances where, because of disability, greater earning capacity etc husbands have elected to remain at home and fulfil this role.

I haven't noticed any suggestion that men are 'pursuing selfishness' by being gainfully employed outside the home or that there is nothing 'more valuable' that they can do except the nurturing of HIS children.

I have respect for Little Hawk, he appends his 'name' to his posts and does not need to hide his opinions behind the 'Guest' persona.

Nevertheless I feel that his sentiments of true equality and mutual regard have been hijacked in this discussion and out of self respect I no longer wish to contribute to this so called 'discussion' which echoes the worst attitudes of 'The Woman's Room'

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 08:52 AM

La..la..la..la..loyla...

Yeah, it is a mixed up world, ain't it... Who cares??? I mean, let's get real here, if we want the womenz to stay home and nurture the youngins then we're gonna have to figure out how to pay the menz 'nuff so that is possible.... Heck, it was possible in most middle class families when I was growin' up in the 50's but now families can'r nake ends meet with two incomes...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 09:05 AM

Well, this thread certainly has wandered far afield from the original discussion, hasn't it?

Little did Hillary and Obama suspect what they were setting in motion. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 10:43 AM

It's all Hillary's fault, LH... You know how the womenz love to mess with stuff... lol...

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 12:00 PM

GfS,

I owe nobody an apology. I have never been deceptive, nor claimed to be anything other than exactly what I am. If you are confused, it is your own fault.

Please also note that as a registered member, I am not afraid to reveal exactly who and where I am, and some people here know this information. But, I am enjoying your confusion (even obsession?), so you won't get it here.

I provided full quotes with nothing out of context, and if anyone cares to see any of your posts in their entirety they are right here on this page.

So, call me a liar if you will. Just make sure your Charley McCarthy doll jumps right in after you to congratulate you. Either one would be fine actually. Me deceptive? Sheeesh.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 12:14 PM

See what I mean, GfS???

(Good 'un, TIA...)

But now I'm confused... When I woke up this mornin' I thought I was man???... lol...

(No, make that lol-lolya...)

Nevermind...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: TIA
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 12:15 PM

Sorry, forgot to log in above.

I am back only to thank EmmaB for the link to the BBC brain profiler.
It was fascinating! There are some really obscure, unexpected mind-body connections that really seemed to work.

Cool stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 12:38 PM

Chongo has some pals with a boxing gym in Chicago. We should get into booking bouts there to settle all these festering grievances on the forum, and charge a small admission fee for each match. The proceeds could be used to provide help to young inner city chimps, gorillas, baboons, and other unfortunates who are in need of education and other forms of social assistance.

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 01:05 PM

Now there is an idea??? Let's see...

Sharon "Philly Girl" A verses Bearded "Tne Beast" Bruce

T "The Puzzler" IA verses Guest "Madman" from Sanity

Bob "The Hillbilly Hitman" bert verses Doug "The Repuiblican" R

Ron "Tongue Twsiter" Davies verses The Tererible T

Yeah that could be fun...

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 01:07 PM

Chiongo has enough to worry about with his movie coming out in the fall; "Space Chimps" is going to be hard for his campaign gorillas to spin any which way but south...


A

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 04:02 PM

Nice diversion. Still didn't answer my questions, and managed to keep the hostility going! None of the naggers, seem to want to address the questions, but in all honesty, there is no slam against women on my posts, just appreciations and the lifting up, of them. Its the nagging, clinging to the self absorbtion, that robs children, and husbands, and families that I have been objecting to. And by the way, when I said 'you women' I was referring to only the ones I was talking to, on here. If you weren't so blinded by your predisposed hostility, you would have caught that. but , ok, you want to stay selfish, and nasty about it, go ahead; see if it makes your life or anyone around you better off for it! In any event, (and if you could think clear enough to see it), see if you can take the input I've given you, for working lyrics, or music to..after all, I was under the impression that this was a blog for musicians!!... People are tired of needless, counter productive anger. If you can look at the posts, there is plenty of material, to write and compose from. If you want to champion some worn out tired 'cause' well, chances are it will go nowhere...we've all heard enough. Try 'unity' between our race, not division, and pandering to the destructive forces in our society, of which some here have subscribed to, because they are not creative enough, to give back to life, only take from it, for their personal gain of attention. If you think I posted what I posted, just to 'win' an argument, on here, try thinking larger. Lot of great material i've given away, both in lyrics(other thread, and music posts, to not have to regurgitate the past old themes.

still didn't answer my questions those!! Have Akenaton explain it to you...she's obviously not so blocked!!

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Jul 08 - 01:43 PM

All quiet on the western front!..Does that mean we finally got it??

Subject: RE: BS: Unity
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 11 Jul 08 - 08:46 PM

a-a-a-a-men!!!!