BS: If Canadians voted in US election....

Subject: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 04:54 PM

Here's from today's Yahoo....the Canadian public's view on the US election, according to latest polls:

"The new poll suggests Canadians so massively favour the U.S. Democratic party that they'd back any of its leading candidates in a presidential race against a Republican.

The Harris-Decima survey suggests the Democrats would trounce the Republicans by a four-to-one margin if the voters were Canadian.

George W. Bush's Republican party would get creamed even in a hypothetical election in which only Canadian Conservatives voted.

The survey, provided exclusively to The Canadian Press, says 49 per cent of Canadians expressed a preference for Democrats while only 12 per cent did the same for Republicans.

Even self-described Conservatives - who are supposedly more ideologically in tune with the right-leaning Republicans - favoured the Democrats by a 47-23 margin.

Voters in New Hampshire will pick their preferred Democratic and Republican candidates in Tuesday's primary.

Although Democrat Barack Obama appears to have all the momentum entering the vote, Canadian respondents favoured Hillary Clinton by 34-23 margin over Obama's upstart candidacy.

Among Republican candidates, Canadian respondents favoured the most socially liberal one.

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani had the support of six per cent of respondents, followed by John McCain at three per cent, Mike Huckabee at two per cent and Mitt Romney at one per cent.

In a hypothetical presidential election between Obama and Romney, respondents favoured Obama 49 per cent to 11. And if only Conservatives voted, Obama would still have won by a 50-17 margin.

The poll of 1,000 respondents was conducted Jan. 3-6, and has a plus or minus 3.1-percentage-point margin of error, 19 times out of 20."

There's the difference between "conservatism" in the USA and Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 04:59 PM

They'd be able to vote if they hadn't been so damned sticky about being being invaded every now and then.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 05:17 PM

Yeah, and I bet the same would be true of any European country—assuming they know enough about American politics not to assume Republican = Conservative and Democratic = Labour (or whatever they call their major parties).

And I'm sure Europeans & Canadians know a lot more about American politics than Americans know about theirs.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 05:20 PM

LOL! Good one, Rapaire! I wasn't expecting that...

Tell you what, me bucko, be prepared to discuss our Canadian sovereignty over the front and rear sights of a rifle....at the borderline. ;-) Just like in 1812-14.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 05:53 PM

If Canada went in as a state, with a pop. of 31 million, it would rank second behind California with its 36 million.
California has 53 house seats and 55 electoral votes, Canada would have a few less.

Of course, Quebec would finally secede, either going on its own or joining France, leaving Canada with 24 million, which would tie it with Texas (32 House seats and 34 electoral votes).

The Northwest Passage, rapidly becoming ice-free, would give the US an Atlantic to Pacific route; Panama would be frozen out.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 06:55 PM

Okay. What's my target? I don't normally shoot at people, so maybe some empty cans or something, eh? And do I have to use a muzzle-loading, 1812 sort of rifle or can I use something a bit more modern?

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:06 PM

And not like in circa 1865? We could trade Canada for Ireland and...wait...never mind.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:10 PM

Why become a "State" when we are a Nation, the True North, strong and free, one of 26 nations that form the most powerful, free, democratic force on earth? militarily and compassionately.

But, I digress.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:10 PM

If Canada did join the USA, Q, (perish the thought!) it would do so as 10 or more states, not 1. Have you seen the size of Canada? Are you aware we are divided into 10 provinces and a couple of territories (in the north) already? Therefore the situation would be quite different from what you are saying, since each of the 10 new states would have 2 senators apiece like any other state does! Big difference in the Senate, smaller difference in the House.

Rapaire, you guys on your side of the line can use any danged rifle you want. I would probably go for a good 30-30 with a telescopic sight.

Just aim at my hat. It will be placed on some useful place that is some fair distance away from where I will be positioned.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: john f weldon
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:17 PM

By the way, everyone should check out the Battle of Chateauguay Museum (located about halfway between me & Beer), where 700 Canucks defeated 2100 Yanks, who were planning to liberate Montreal.

They had the guns, but we had the bagpipes!

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:45 PM

Little hawk, yep, I live in one of those provinces- why split up when as a unit the State of Canada would carry more weight than a bunch of itty-bitty states like Maine or Nebraska? Which is better, power in the House of representatives or in the Senate?
If Canada is too large to function as a state, is it too large to function as a country? (Or is it functioning?)
Although as ten states or so, Alberta, B. C and Ontario could keep their goodies and Sask-PEI-NB etc. would suffer in North Dakota style isolation and poverty.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:48 PM

I think we also had some Pitch Forks John.

And by the way, why is it always said that we will join or not join the States? It's the other way around. The States want to join US. After all "we" have everything they want.
Plus the good looking women. Some of the best brewed Beer and lots of Moose, Beaver and Snowy Owls.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:53 PM

Actually, I think power in the Senate is better in the USA. You hear a lot more about Senators than you do about members of the House.

The USA has given each state 2 Senators....whereas a state's number of House Representatives are roughly proportional to its population. Thus a populous state like California or New York has much more say in the House than it does in the Senate, but a small state with small population has an equal say in the Senate. It was a way of ensuring both regional AND per capita representation in a relatively fair and equal fashion, and it strikes me as a good idea. I think it's one of the best features of the American system, one which other countries might do well to adopt.

Canada has suffered disunity, for instance, because Quebec and Ontario with their large populations tend to dominate the agenda...that makes the West and the Maritimes angry because it marginalizes them. If we had a parliament with 2 houses as in the USA, and we had an elected Senate with 2 Senators from each province, and every piece of legislation had to pass BOTH houses of parliament.....! Then the West and the Maritimes would no longer be out in the cold when it came to influencing the Canadian agenda.

And that would be one hell of a good thing.

See, the Americans do have some good ideas worthy of adoption. Just not their darned imperial 4-year presidency and their interminable election process.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:04 PM

Ha! Good post, Beer. You're right, we've got all those things they want...

Lots of virgin land.
A fair number of virgins, period!
Beavers.
Moose.
Maple Syrup.
Great scenery.
The world's largest supply of fresh water.
Plently of minerals.
Trees, trees, and more trees.
Don Cherry.
The best hockey players.
PBS that doesn't beg you constantly for donations.
Socialism in a happy marriage with capitalism.
Universal health care for all.
A smallish deficit.
A strong and rising currency.
No patriot act.
No war in Iraq.
No plans to attack Iran.
A leader who can be turfed out of office prior to every 4 years if he deserves to be.
And Resdan. Mustn't forget Resdan.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:08 PM

If Canadians voted in US election....

it would mean that they'd become part of Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:11 PM

Little Hawk-

Actually I'm impressed with the polling and what I propose is that Maine succeed from the Disunited States and join as an 11th province. I suppose we could join Quebec, New Brunswick or Nova Scotia but I think we should hold out for provincial status.

Sorry that we tried to invade you in the Aroostook County War, 1838-39.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, your pal and admirer

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:22 PM

I'm all for it, Charlie Noble, and I agree that you should have separate provincial status in Canada as the new Canadian Province of Maine, no need to change anything about your identity as "Maine", because Maine is great just as it is. Welcome to Confederation!

Eat that, George Bush! ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:27 PM

It won't fly, sorry.

No place to surf, and the winters are just short of Gilbert and Sullivan ridiculous.

I'd take Montreal, though.



A

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:45 PM

Listen Amos. You maybe a great guy but were not stupid. I read the papers before this Internet stuff and it was very clear that the second best looking women outside California(That hurt .). Were the ladies from Montreal. So forget it O.K. We'd go to war to protect them.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:46 PM

"No place to surf"

There is a wave pool in West Edmonton Mall.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:46 PM

On a lighter note but yet serious, I hope your doing alright with the nasty weather that has been happening.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: artbrooks
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:57 PM

I'm not at all sure about Montreal, but I'd be glad to annex Vancouver. Of course, I'm not at all sure about any of the US east of the Rockies, either. Easterners (in either country) always seem to be causing trouble. The only armed conflict between the two countries (or their precedent polities) in the west was over a pig, and I think they settled it by having a joint pig roast.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:58 PM

I'd like Idaho to join Alberta, mostly for the oil money but also to annoy Utah. Besides, the map of Alberta would look downright odd with a little dangly thing hanging off South.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:04 PM

Idaho, Washington, Montana, Wyoming (because of the oil).

Microsoft, Boeing, Micron, Hoku Materials, and there are jewelry quality diamonds in kimberlite pipes in Montana...it's not like Canada wouldn't be gaining anything.

This is win-win, as I see it.

Besides, we could then legally run whiskey up to Ft. Whoop-Up.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: bobad
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:08 PM

No place to surf? check this out Amos, right in downtown Montreal.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:10 PM

Rapaire. You can keep your diamonds. Northern Quebec don't know what to do with all they are finding.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:24 PM

Yeah, I know. But that way Canada, and not De Beeres, would control the world's diamond supply.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: john f weldon
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:27 PM

Surfing, but not on waves... ...over rocks in the Lachine Rapids...

surfing in montreal

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:32 PM

And don't forget the Arctic Ocean is quickly thawing out! Who knows what surfing possibilities THAT will bring?

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:43 PM

Honest truth John.
I remember going up the rapids at about eleven at night in a speed boat (20hp) with a chesterfield and me overlooking the top of it for rocks as my brother steered it. Moon light nigh on the way to Herring island. The camp there is still owned by his ex. Feeling no pain. I was 20 and my bro was 24.
Never forget it.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:49 PM

It would be really interesting if Americans voted in the US election. At least a lot more of them.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 09:55 PM

You got that right, Dick.

Maybe we could invade Canada again....

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 11:02 PM

"I'd like Idaho to join Alberta, mostly for the oil money but also to annoy Utah."

LOL! That's quite funny, Rapaire!

Hey, I just thought of two more good reasons for Americans to want to join Canada:

We have better beer in Canada.

And we have a Tim Hortons on every second street corner!

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Bee
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 06:55 AM

Believe me, although it generally involves wearing full wetsuits or dry suits or whatever they calls 'em, there are rabid surfers right here in Nova Scotia, where we do indeed get some mighty fine wave action.

The water can even be quite warm - after hurricane Hugo, our Atlantic beaches were bathed in deliciously warm water, and a few poor disoriented tropical fish were plucked out of the sea around that time.

I agree, Maine should really have been another Maritime Province. Sorry you guys had the bad luck or poor judgement to end up as a State!

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 10:41 AM

'"I'd like Idaho to join Alberta, mostly for the oil money but also to annoy Utah."'

                That would place a large number of Mormons in Alberta and allow Romney to sweep the province.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 10:55 AM

Ralph might be inkliend to come out of retirement.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 11:24 AM

Bee-

The British occupied a good part of Maine in both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. For reasons best known to themselves, they gave it back after treaty negoitiations.

Maybe they didn't like lobster.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:22 PM

Charley... very few people know about that, or so it seems. The Brits sat down with the Yanks over tea and crumpets and the Yanks managed to get the border along the St. Croix. Apparently the Brits couldn't read a map. (Maybe they just couln't read the Native Peoples river names?) I forget the name of the last river they held, but it was indeed a fair piece beyond the St. Croix.

Lobster... back then, lobster, crab, seaweed, whatever, used to be hauled on shore by the netfull and thrown in the fields for fertilizer. Lobster only became "popular" around here in the great depression. And, man-o-man is it "popular" now... $12 a pound for live markets today.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:27 PM

Damn shame. I like Maine a lot, with all those neat little harbours and the maritime culture there.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Bee
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:49 PM

Charley and gnu, I don't think the British 'negotiators' much cared where the line came down at that end of the continent.

And neither did most of the people both sides of the border for a lot of the time since (barring the Loyalists and Fenians, I suppose).

I had a winter offroad experience in Maine once (that's a little like a religious experience, but colder). Driver was tired, on our way back from Boston, a few km. from St. Stephen's, after dark, road was good... and then -

Poof. Deep in a snowbank, headlights on spruce trunks (never a good thing to see in your headlights). Snow halfway up the windows, both sides of the smallish car. Had to put the skinniest guy out the back window to dig us out a bit.

"Never mind." I said, once we'd stopped shakin', "It's Maine - there's a guy with a fourwheel drive truck and a winch on the front next house we come to."

And there was. Nice fella, too, just like all us Maritimers. (Tales tongue outta cheek slowly...)

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:52 PM

Of course, none of that matters a whit. Fact of the matter is that, from about NYC north, the coastal states and provinces share a common bond in culture and heritage. Our "natural" trading routes are north-south... east of The Appalaicians... and the same goes for the people. You would be hard pressed to find a Maritimer without some ties to New England.

Here ya go... front page of today's Moncton Times & Transcript. "... World Series Trophy at the legislature in Halifax. Boston Red Sox officials have brought the Commissioner's Trophy to Halifax for two days in recognition of the team's strong Nova Scotia fan base."

Oh yeah... we don't watch much Canuck football here... GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:55 PM

Yes! Bee.... "Nice fella, too, just like all us Maritimers." My point made better.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Peace
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 02:03 PM

Maritimers are renoun/reknown/renown known for their friendliness, humour and hospitality. Would the whole world were that way.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 03:16 PM

Alberta already has a large Mormon contingent in the southern part of the province. Mostly into sugar beets and cattle, but also a bit of everything else; I believe the largest ranch in Alberta is owned by Mormons. A few more LDS from Idaho would fit right in. Some years back one of the men, Tanner, I believe, went to Utah to join in the leadership of the church.

Better beer? Big Rock Calgary brews are excellent, but I still like Dos Equis (XX) from Mexico. Many years ago, Pearl from San Antonio (rice-based) was very good, But I haven't been back to see if it is still sold. Many good beers, so can't really pit any country against another in that regard.

The old story of the mouse and the elephant, we watch the U. S. with trepidation, but prefer to do our own thing and think we do better.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 07:04 PM

No place to surf in Canada?

Surfers in Tofino, B.C. would not agree with you, Amos.

Besides that, anyone with any sense (cents) heads south at some point during the winter. The Pacific Coast has wonderful surf.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 07:58 PM

Sounds like they have snow storms to.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 08:42 PM

Some. But they are more known for rain. Lots of rain.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 08:55 PM

Well...

MY HEART'S IN CAPE BRETON TONIGHT
Words and Music by Steve Romanoff

It's a Saturday night, and we're out on the town,
My new friends and me, all alone,
We will sing the old lovesongs,
We'll make toasts all around,
To living, to loving, to home,
Then I think of just how much I miss you,
And it seems I've been out here for years,
Then someone will play an old fiddle tune,
And I'll have to hold back the tears...

        So forgive me, my friends, if I seem far away,
        In a moment I should be all right,
        Though my hands hold me here, working day after day,
        My heart's in Cape Breton, tonight.

Since I left Nova Scotia for the work I have found,
I have kept all my memories within,
Of the warm nights and laughter in Waterford Town,
Or the lights on the causeway with the fog rollin' in.
Then I think of just how much I miss you,
And it seems I've been out here for years,
Then someone will play an old fiddle tune,
And I start to find my way home...

CANADA MY OWN LAND
Words and music by Tommy Makem, Copyright 1982

The sun it comes up on the green fields of Newfoundland
On Vancouver Island, he sheds his last ray
The great Arctic Circle reflects back his glory
The wheat-laden plains grow more golden each day

Chorus:
This is my own land so fertile and beautiful
Majestic her mountains, her rivers run free
Priviledged the children, who call her their homeland
Canada, my own land for ever you'll be

Proud are the people who travel your highways
The farmer, the teacher, the factory hand
The merchant, the miner, the doctor, the fisherman
Proud to belong to this beautiful land

Chorus

Famed is your power and famed is your gentleness
Your bounty is endless from sea to shining sea
Your arms ever open to help those less fortunate
A bright light of freedom to those who would be free

Chorus

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 09:20 AM

Just cuz Canada's got oil and diamonds and uranium and good farmland and pretty soon an ice-free Northwest Passage and all that stuff what makes you think the US would want you, huh? Why, our Senator Craig wouldn't accept you guys if you were down on your knees...ah, wrong example.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: bankley
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 10:29 AM

"It's not who votes that counts...... it's who counts the votes "
Joe Stalin....   

so he's dead, but Diebold lives on....

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 01:35 PM

Hows about we just have United States citizens voting in US elections, and forget about how Canadians would so vote. We probably already have a plethora of folks (maybe even some Canadian) voting here who legally shouldn't.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 01:58 PM

If you had the rest of the world voting in your silly elections, you might get a reasonably sensible and responsible administration for a change...and one that would obey international laws.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: leftydee
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 12:09 PM

Maybe we could join Canada. I sure would like the healthcare my brother in Ontario receives. Here in Michigan I pay a lot for disaster care. We would make a good Province , I think. In addition to all the obvious advantages, the best team in hockey would be a Canadian team at long last.(how're ya doin' Beer?)

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 12:15 PM

Great. And real good to hear from you. Welcome back. Haven't heard from you in a while.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 01:37 PM

Yo lefty! Haven't seen you for weeks either.

Michigan? Yessirrree! Free pass. C'mon in. Great fishin and huntin and fine people... why, yer just a row away. And, we likes a sense of humour, especially ribbin about hockey.

Keep yer stick ona hice eh!

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: bobad
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 02:15 PM

"the best team in hockey would be a Canadian team at long last"

Since when is Ottawa not in Canada?

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 02:16 PM

Up until a few years back when they expanded the league again.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Beer
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 05:01 PM

This weekend Bobad. This weekend. Saturday evening to be exact.

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 06:06 PM

Here's the latest on Canadian public reaction to the US election, from today's national news:

"OTTAWA (AFP) - Most Canadians would back Hillary Clinton for president in upcoming US elections, and nearly one in six would forfeit their right to vote in the next Canadian ballot for a chance to sway the US result, said polls Monday.

ADVERTISEMENT

"What they're saying is that in the whole scheme of things, the (US) race will have impact on the world and Canada," Keith Neuman, vice president of polling firm Environics, told public broadcaster CBC.

"The US is a big global superpower and it carries a lot of weight."

A CBC-Environics poll of 2,001 Canadians found 34 percent of Canadians would like to see a Democrat win the next US election while 5 percent said they were rooting for a Republican to claim the White House.

56 percent said they were indifferent.

As well, 15 percent of those surveyed said they would give up their ballot in Canada's next federal election to vote in the US contest.

A second poll by UniMarketing published in the French-language daily La Presse found 62 percent of Canadians supported the Democratic Party, while only 17 percent backed the Republicans.

Also, 42 percent of Canadians supported Senator Hillary Clinton for president, while 27 percent backed Senator Barack Obama, according to the UniMarketing survey.

"Mrs. Clinton is well-known in Canada," explained Raynald Harvey, president of UniMarketing. "And Canadians remember fondly her husband's term in office."

***********

Interesting, eh? I'm among the 27 percent who would prefer Obama over Clinton...and, yes, I would sacrifice my vote in the next Canadian election to be able to vote in the American one, because what happens in Washington affects the whole world, including Canada....while what happens in Canada is minor in comparison.

See, DougR? If you came to Canada, you'd be adrift in a sea of "liberals"....Ooooooo....scary, scary! Makes your flesh crawl, doesn't it? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: If Canadians voted in US election....
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 10:31 PM

I don't see Hillary as liberal. I see her as a woman who will do whatever it takes to become the first woman president. I think she's calculating, shrewd and deceptive and she certainly does not represent most American women. She is a Republicrat, backed by huge corporations, and most definitely a WASP with the values of a WASP. I don't think much of her husband, either.