BS: Kucinich dropping out of race

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 08 - 05:30 AM

His consistency in standing up for his ideals obviously appalls them.... ;-)

And it really bugs them that they can't find any dirt on him either.

Oh well, they can just paint him as a dangerous radical...a dreamer who needs to be replaced by someone much more "reasonable" who can compromise and work with the insiders in Washington.

Another insider, that is...

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 10:02 PM

Dennis is in danger of losing his seat in Ohio!

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 10:09 PM

Uh-huh. That's because the corporate powers that be who kept him out of the debates have spent many millions of dollars to fill the Ohio TV with bogus ads making Kucinich look like a disaster to the people of Ohio. They have done everything possible that they could to make sure he doesn't get back into Congress, short of killing him.

Dennis Kucinich didn't have the money to fight back effectively in the presidential campaign...despite being the candidate with the best platform...and he doesn't have the money to fight back effectively on TV in Ohio against the corporatocracy.

If he is tossed out, this will simply prove once again that Big Money runs the system. How? By dominating the airwaves with short, phony little sound bites that create an impression in the average voter's mind.

He who dominates the airwaves wins the election. Dead simple.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 11:35 AM

If he gets unelected, I hope he runs for president as a third party candidate in the general election. I hope Ron Paul does the same. That would make for a hell of a great election.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 11:45 AM

Yes, it would.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM

Two losers for the price of one.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 03:34 PM

No, two idealists with the funding of one. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 07:52 PM

Looks like things are going to have to get a lot worse before people wake up. Maybe, like the prize mules, you have to get their attention.

The system schtinx!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 08:57 PM

Ron Paul surprised me with his strong showing last night.

If he went indie, it would be an interesting race--anti-war candidates running indie on both sides of the divide.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 09:18 PM

Yeah, given McCain's liberal credentials, Ron Paul could probably elect any Democrat on the ticket.

                      Kucinich won his race, by the way.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 09:44 PM

Yeah, that was great news.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 11:45 PM

Woo Hoo!!! Thanks for the update, Riginslinger!


Two losers for the price of one.

Two spoilers for the price of one. They would keep the real issues in the forefront of the race, which is where they should be. We know that won't happen in a race between McCain and either Hillary or Obama. However, since Dennis has kept his seat in the House, he'll be able to continue to do it from there. This is good news.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 11:48 PM

Yes, it is. Bravo, Dennis! Those dirty corporate-sponsored TV ads did not knock him down.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 04:49 AM

Hmmm... now that I think about it, I think it's just the primary that Dennis won. I don't know if he has any Republican challengers for the vote in November, but I guess I was premature when I said he has kept his seat.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:36 AM

Good news anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 08:40 AM

The media is calling Kucinich's district "safely Democratic."

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 01:10 PM

Yeah, I'm not overly worried, but I'll feel better about it after vote in November.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:43 AM

Well, now, listen to the latest:

In Ohio's primary election in the 10th Congressional District last week, 10,000 registered Republicans switched their party affiliation on election day and became "Democrats for a Day" - allowing them to try to unseat the one Congressman who has been a national leader on every issue that reflects the core values of real Democrats: Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

10,000 Republicans in one Congressional District! In a race where his opposition was supported by Republican media, Republican contributors, Republican advisors, and a Republican political agenda.

In a special video message from Dennis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTEhYzEuzs

he explains what happened, why, and how you can help to meet the challenge that will surely be mounted again to put that seat in the Republican "win column" in November.

They tried. They failed. But, they'll try again.

With your support, we stopped them last week. And with your continued help, we can demonstrate in the next 10 days that we intend to stop them in November - but only with your help.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:49 AM

Hopefully, they'll fail again.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:14 PM

Apparently large numbers of Republicans are voting for Hillary in the primaries because they don't want McCain to have to run against Obama. The Republicans sound pretty desperate in this election.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 04:36 PM

Tactical voting eh??
Hurrah for democracy and the good old USA!!

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 05:01 PM

"Apparently large numbers of Republicans are voting for Hillary in the primaries because they don't want McCain to have to run against Obama."

                        They must want McCain to lose!

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:45 PM

That depends on how they rate Hillary's chances, Rinslinger. ;-) Perhaps they think she is the one guaranteed to lose to McCaine.

Yup, looks to me like everyone out there is so danged smart that they've got this thing all figured out in advance, specially the people on Mudcat...just ask 'em and they'll tell you all about it! Funny thing, though, that they can't agree on it amongst themselves. LOL! A regular bunch of geniuses we have here, but "if you're all so smart, why ain'tcha rich?" to quote an old phrase.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:54 PM

Actually, the exit polls reveal that didn't actually happen, so if I want to get rich I won't have Rush Limbaugh ask people to bring me money.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:07 PM

I'm not sure I know how you could get him to do that anyway...

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:51 PM

Some polls are suggesting that Hillary might not be able to win against McCain. This is probably because a lot of people who might just stay at home if it's a race between McCain and Obama would go out to specifically vote against Hillary if it was a race between her and McCain. There's a lot of people who really hate Hillary.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:07 AM

Before the Texas primary, I heard on NPR that national poles put it something like 55-41 Obama over McCain and 47-44 Hillary over McCain. If you were a Texas Republican, voting strategically, who would you vote for? And after leaving the Democratic Polling booth, would you really tell an exit poler what you had done? If you answered the exit pole taker honestly, it would ruin your strategy.   

Also, Obama lost a squeaker in the primary, but clobbered her in the caucus in Texas. I think a part of that was people who were willing to make a strategic vote in private but did not have the stones to do so in a public caucus.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:33 AM

"I'm not sure I know how you could get him to do that anyway..."

                   You just say, "Hey Rush, I'll bet you can't get people to bring me money.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 11:49 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:31 PM

Heh! Heh! Good one, Rinslinger.

"I heard on NPR that national poles put it something like 55-41 Obama over McCain and 47-44 Hillary over McCain."

No! Not true. It was national polls that did that. National Poles, on the other hand, voted solidly for a diet heavy in pickles and borscht regardless of which candidate they backed, but were evenly split on Obama's or Hillary's chances to beat McCain.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:42 PM

the National Poles are just a bunch of flag wavers.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:46 PM

I thought the National Poles were invading the UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Kucinich dropping out of race
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:52 PM

Correct, Rig, but at least we can afford plumbers now.