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Subject: BS: Kill For Jesus From: bobad Date: 18 Jan 10 - 09:12 PM Something about this just ain't right. U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 18 Jan 10 - 09:38 PM Agreed. Jot me down for "separation of church and state." Really wide separation. Grand Canyon separation. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 18 Jan 10 - 09:51 PM Are these people plain nuts? Rhetorical question. But wouldn't it be unconstitutional for the Pentagon to cancel or fail to renew their contract simply on the basis of the (formerly) hidden religious message? Of course, now that Al Qaeda's got the word, their sympathizers will get even madder. Maybe that's the Pentagon's loophole. But if they use it, the wacko right will go crazy. Nobody, but nobody, could make this stuff up. I couldn't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:03 PM I don't doubt for a second that the encoded biblical references would have been given GW Bush's kiss of approval. Does anyone know on whose watch the contract was signed? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: katlaughing Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:04 PM Jaysuseffingkeyriced! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:15 PM "From false premises, anything follows" I'll be saying that more often, perhaps...until folks are either sick of reading it, or more folks GET it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:21 PM Are these people plain nuts? Come and visit us in Kansas. We're a bit short on bunk space, but I'm sure we can put you up long enough to attain enlightenment on the question. A cup 'a coffee and half a stale doughnut should satisfy your needs for nourishment 'bout long enough to get all the convincing you need. Our Senator Brownback has TWICE proposed a Constitutional Amendment to prohibit the U. S. Supreme Court from hearing any appeal of "any action by any public official that said official affirms was based on his or her religious belief" - or something to that effect. Of course he means only "Christian belief" since that's the only religion he thinks anyone might have, although there are reports he's been studying Buddhism "just in case." (He's now running for Governor.) John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:22 PM Bill, I feel your pain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Beer Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:27 PM Very very sad and sick . beer (adrien) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:39 PM I lived in Kansas when I was growing up...in the 1960s, 3 of the 10 members of the Board of the John Birch Society lived in Wichita. If they could have made Jesus a permanent de jure member of the legislature, they would have jumped at the chance! As it was, every civic organization I knew about had regular prayer meetings and your church affiliation was a major factor in who wanted to associate with you. Sam Brownback may just be worse than ANY of the ones *I* knew. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Janie Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:42 PM Not sure that ABC has done anyone any favors by reporting this. Might a "heads up"to the Pentagon been a more appropriate action, with a news release made if the Pentagon failed to act? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:45 PM John, *that* sounds like a big yes. I guess the whole state has gone over the rainbow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:55 PM Janie... that is exactly what I wondered. But these days, 'news' is considered a commodity, and it is seldom that an interesting item will be held back, even when it might be prudent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jan 10 - 11:08 PM Actually, I've lived in about 5 states that really weren't much different from Kansas. (But I've lived in a couple that where, so I guess that's what makes me a little more "aware.") John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:23 AM We have In-N-Out Hamburgers here in California - most of their packaging has a scripture verse citation hidden somewhere, and I've seen such citations on other products. I guess this is something born-again businessmen do. It's a bit tacky, especially on bombs, but I can't see where it's horrible for a manufacturer to put an inscription on a product. If the government ordered the inscription, that would be a different matter. Guess I'd rather have scripture on my hamburgers, than on my bombs. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:47 AM Hamburgers are nearly always bought by individuals, and not by defense contract. I think (my ever so humble opinion) is that it is a violation of the separation clause. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: artbrooks Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:15 AM I'd bet that the next contract (if it is renewed) requires that there are no Biblical verses. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:19 AM Lewis Carroll, I'd be okay with. "Cap'n, what's a Jabberwock?" "Nothin' to worry about, soldier. Just shoot." O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Tug the Cox Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:42 AM Oh dear, the gentle Nazarene would be horrified. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Stu Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:50 AM From the web site: "This goodness has been based on Biblical standards throughout our history, and we will strive to follow those morals." Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of irony? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 19 Jan 10 - 05:00 AM How about replacing it with 'Don't shoot this gun, because you will actually KILL someone and have to live with that for the rest of your life!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 19 Jan 10 - 05:34 AM Lizzie,how about don't shoot except to preserve life? That is pretty much the rules of engagement given to our troops. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Georgiansilver Date: 19 Jan 10 - 08:55 AM As always... man kills man and tries to shift the blame... Jesus/God/Holy Spirit is not part of killing in anyway!!!!..... no matter how much man claims He is......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Amos Date: 19 Jan 10 - 08:59 AM Well, only since THey reformed, right? I recall a certain flood... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:33 AM Nobody's blaming Jesus. We're blaming weirdos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,wys-out Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:52 AM Could we please amend the thread title to indicate a context? (As it now reads it's a banner to kill for Jesus.) Even putting it in quotes would be an improvement. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: bobad Date: 19 Jan 10 - 10:03 AM As the originator I request that the title remain as is, it is a nod to the title of the Fugs song Kill For Peace. It is called irony. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,wys-out Date: 19 Jan 10 - 10:11 AM It's only irony in actuality if one reads the thread. If the thread title remains as is, it's violent speech and, perhaps, incitement to people Googling their way in here. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Rapparee Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:36 PM Back in the '60s I knew a guy who wore a tee shirt reading "Kill A Soldier For Christ" (he meant a US soldier -- he was very radical anti-Vietnam). Perhaps instead they might inscribe Job19:29 or Mat26:52. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 19 Jan 10 - 12:51 PM At that time there were also novelty signs saying "Kill a Commie for Christ." I first thought this was bitter antiwar sarcasm, but then I met people (not many) who openly endorsed the sentiment to the letter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: frogprince Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:27 PM I really think the "Kill a Commie for Christ" stuff did start out as bitter irony, and was recognized as such by everyone except a handful of such people as Lighter refers to. Much the same as some people I know who saw the New Yorker cover, with the Obamas as terrorists, and said "They sure got that right". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Don Firth Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:01 PM Yes, I received this story in this morning's e-mail and I nigh most up-chucked. Once again it must be said: There is more than ample reason for the weeping of Jesus. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Rapparee Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:11 PM I really don't think that I'd like MY rifle to have had a biblical citation on the sights. Not one bit, and those with them should be recalled and the citation ground off. It has no place on a military weapon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: katlaughing Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:25 PM Couldn't agree with you more, Rapaire! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Amos Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:48 PM Really! Its a conflation of entirely separate domains--spirituality and political violence. Wrongly mixed together. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Jim Dixon Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:56 PM Here's a slideshow from ABC News that illustrates the weapons and the markings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Donuel Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:03 PM The branch of service that has the most wide spread religious extremist activity is the Air Force. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:14 PM Anybody know where I can get a night vision sight with references to the Tao Te Ching engraved on it? And I hear Tom Cruise is looking for a laser sight which cites passages from Dyanetics. I'm tellin' ya, the market for inspirational gunsights is just starting to be tapped. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Don Firth Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:44 PM Here's a good inscription for a gun sight: Exodus 20:13 Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 19 Jan 10 - 04:58 PM Their beliefs and attitude fairly ooze from their pores. Can YOU say "sanctimonious?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 19 Jan 10 - 05:44 PM Anybody know where I can get a night vision sight with references to the Tao Te Ching engraved on it? The rifle which can be fired is not the true rifle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 19 Jan 10 - 06:18 PM The military has been "Christianizing" soldiers for years now. Check out Boykin, McChrystal, and maybe Petraeus and see what their religious convictions are. If you're in the service you can see just how far non-believing will get you. At the bottom of this is a holy war. http://www.jewsonfirst.org/weinstein.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 19 Jan 10 - 06:54 PM It is a great sadness to me that so many people fall victim to the idea that "you can do anything you wish if you just 'claim' it is in the name of God/Jesus/Allah/Mohammed"..(insert your favorite prophet here). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 19 Jan 10 - 07:20 PM Stringsinger, not to challenge you, but what proportion of recruits are already religious? Conservative Christian teaching about such things as patriotism would lead me to think that Christians are overrepresented among recruits, and possibly West Point / ROTC candidates also. Without these kinds of numbers, it's impossible to tell if numbers later in their careers show a prejudice in promotion, or merely an outworking of the numbers of recruits/candidates. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Joe_F Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:07 PM Christians at War |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:19 PM Ouch. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:48 PM wow...1916.... that one is heavy... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Riginslinger Date: 19 Jan 10 - 10:22 PM Religion is as religion does! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:17 PM Hi Bill, All you have to do is research what Boykin, McChrystal and other big-wigs in the military have said. They have started a Christian Jihad. And how about the persecution of non-Christians in the military? There are plenty of cases. Some might involved fragging. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Donuel Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:47 PM Christians at War (John F, Kendrick) (IWW Songs, 9th. Edition, 1916) Onward, Christian soldiers! Duty's way is plain; Slay your Christian neighbors, or by them be slain, Pulpiteers are spouting effervescent swill, God above is calling you to rob and rape and kill, All your acts are sanctified by the Lamb on high; If you love the Holy Ghost, go murder, pray and die. Onward, Christian soldiers! Rip and tear and smite! Let the gentle Jesus bless your dynamite. Splinter skulls with shrapnel, fertilize the sod; Folks who do not speak your tongue deserve the curse of God. Smash the doors of every home, pretty maidens seize; Use your might and sacred right to treat them as you please. Onward, Christian soldiers! Eat and drink your fill; Rob with bloody fingers, Christ okays the bill, Steal the farmers' savings, take their grain and meat; Even though the children starve, the Saviour's bums must eat, Burn the peasants' cottages, orphans leave bereft; In Jehovah's holy name, wreak ruin right and left. Onward, Christian soldiers! Drench the land with gore; Mercy is a weakness all the gods abhor. Bayonet the babies, jab the mothers, too; Hoist the cross of Calvary to hallow all you do. File your bullets' noses flat, poison every well; God decrees your enemies must all go plumb to hell. Onward, Christian soldiers! Blight all that you meet; Trample human freedom under pious feet. Praise the Lord whose dollar sign dupes his favored race! Make the foreign trash respect your bullion brand of grace. Trust in mock salvation, serve as tyrant's tools; History will say of you: "That pack of G.. D.. fools" ---- Onward, Christian soldiers!, Steer thy drone to kill; Right beside McDonalds, your uplink's on a hill. No need to smell the death or get thy hands a mess Just pray to god your health insurance covers stress. Pushing buttons takes its toll on tendons and your health. Put your earnings back to work in defense stocks for wealth.
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: mousethief Date: 20 Jan 10 - 05:40 PM Religion is as religion does! I don't think you want to start down that road. Far far more people have been killed in the name of atheism than in the name of God. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kill For Jesus From: Bill D Date: 20 Jan 10 - 06:38 PM ? Are you sure MT? I suppose if you consider Stalin's purges, I'd see the point, but that was not "in the name of atheism" just because Stalin was an atheist. I can list WAY more wars, genocide and simple destruction done where religious issues were central. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle si From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Jan 10 - 07:02 PM Wizzy has a point. We do require that thread titles give a fairly clear indication of the contents of the thread. However, we try to preserve the original title and add clarification to the title. I changed the title to BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights. Hope that's OK. Oh, and Michael Moore has an article about this subject here (click). -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Riginslinger Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:06 PM And now there's this: JOS, Nigeria – Charred bodies with scorched hands reaching skyward lay in the streets and a mosque with blackened minarets smoldered Wednesday after several days of fighting between Christians and Muslims killed more than 200 people. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Riginslinger Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:07 PM "Far far more people have been killed in the name of atheism than in the name of God." NOT HARDLY! |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: mousethief Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:13 PM I posted this big long post about religion, atheism, and war. God, it was a beautiful thing. And it vanished into the nichtosphere. Pisseth me off. I'll brew up something, see if I don't. Let me just say "Not Hardly" is a little limp as an argument. Does your rhetoric need a little Viagra? O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: mousethief Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:16 PM Found it. Just kept pressing "back" until it came up again. And for every war/etc where "religious issues are central" there is a war (usually the same one) where religion was a proxy for politics or something else. The Troubles, for instance, weren't about religion, they were about the UK having a toehold on the island. If both sides were mostly Catholic or mostly Protestant, it would still have been a bloody mess. Political leaders who want to conquer each other have long used religious differences to motivate their troops (ancient Palestine, anybody?). If you think none of the killing under the Soviets was done in the name of atheism, you've been fed a line of bull. Millions of priests, monks, nuns, and bishops, at the very least, were killed for being believers. By sweet, reasonable, world-improving atheists. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Bill D Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:36 PM I didn't say 'none'- and many of those priests, etc. were killed for being a perceived threat to Stalin's power, not specifically because Stalin was atheist... You ARE correct that there were often layers of interlocking 'proxy' motives for murder, but The Troubles wasn't about atheism vs. religion, in any case. It did, though, use religious labels as a means of deciding who to shoot at. Right now, the Hindus, Muslems, Sikhs...etc...in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh..etc., is 'about' religion, and historically, I can name many, many conflicts of that nature...and no doubt you can too. Sadly, right now in the good 'ol USA, there are religious groups who WOULD do serious harm to 'unbelievers'. (You live on the West Coast? Good. I have been there. Nice area for tolerance in both directions..spend a year or two in Kansas or Alabama or Oklahoma or S. Carolina and see what real fundamentalism is capable of.) In a decent world, people would leave each others beliefs alone and make decisions based on 'fairness' with no regard for religious preference--or lack of it.....but that ain't what we got. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: mousethief Date: 20 Jan 10 - 10:55 PM In a decent world, people would leave each others beliefs alone and make decisions based on 'fairness' with no regard for religious preference--or lack of it.....but that ain't what we got. Sadly true. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Lonesome EJ Date: 20 Jan 10 - 11:07 PM The sights had serial numbers that ended in ciphers like "J16.6", which were linked to Biblical quotations (James Chapter 16 verse 6). A bit goofy, but to state that these were "scripture verses on rifle sights" makes the soldier users appear to be complicit in something they would not have recognized had it not been brought to their attention. Much ado over nothing in my opinion. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Jan 10 - 11:33 PM http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jesus-guns-countries-rethink-weapons-secret-bible-references/story?id=9617241 'Jesus Guns': Two More Countries Rethink Using Weapons with Secret Bible References New Zealand Will Erase Codes from Gun Scopes, and British Will Talk to Trijicon, Maker of Scopes By JOSEPH RHEE and MARK SCHONE Jan. 20, 2010 After an ABC News report that secret Bible messages are encoded on gun sights used by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan, at least two other countries that also use the equipment in Afghanistan are now considering what action to take. A spokesperson for New Zealand's Defence Force told the New Zealand newspaper The Press that the coded citations on Trijicon scopes were "inappropriate" and would be removed. A spokesperson for Britain's Ministry of Defence told the BBC that the ministry was contacting Trijicon, was unaware of the markings at time of purchase, and understood that the markings might be considered offensive. Major Kristian Dunne of the New Zealand Defence Force said his country's military was unaware of the Bible references and "unhappy" to learn of them from the media. "It's put us in an uncomfortable situation," Dunne told The Press. "We can see how they would cause offense." Dunne said that in addition to removing the codes from its 260 existing scopes, New Zealand would ask Trijicon to remove the code from future weapons |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: katlaughing Date: 20 Jan 10 - 11:34 PM Some of them must've recognised them for what they were as I heard they had tried to file them off. LeeJ, what about separation of church and state? |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: bubblyrat Date: 21 Jan 10 - 07:25 PM I think it's a GREAT idea ! The British Army has a long tradition of saying things like "Praise the Lord,and Pass the Ammunition", or,when attacked," For what we are about to receive,may The Lord make us truly thankful!"......so what's the problem ?? Maybe the Taliban or Al Quaeda ,or whatever,put coded messages from the Koran on their weapons ?? And why not ?? It's only human nature,after all.I cannot see what all the fuss is about ! The main thing is....does this new rifle,with which the British Army is being equipped,work well,or not ?? Who cares about inscriptions ,for God's sake ? The Taliban ?? GOOD !! |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Jan 10 - 07:34 PM "I cannot see what all the fuss is about !" 1) Armies are made up of people with varying religious beliefs. I was an atheist. I would not have wanted 'biblical scripure references' on my rifle scope/sight. 2) Suppose people who worship the devil (work with me here) decided hidden messages should go on some rifle sights and soldiers who believe in god weren't informed? Wouldn't that piss you off? 3) I do not want people's beliefs shoved down my throat. They have a right to their beliefs. They also have the right to shut TFU about them. IMO, and no offence meant to anyone. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: olddude Date: 21 Jan 10 - 07:37 PM The whole world is nuts ... amazing ... nothing shocks me anymore nothing .... |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: JohnInKansas Date: 22 Jan 10 - 05:25 AM After New Zealand, and perhaps others, informed the company that they would not use these sights until the markings were removed, the company has agreed to remove them from all still in stock, to not apply them to any new ones, and will provide 100 "repair kits" for the US to use to remove them from existing ones previously delivered. One might surmise that the repair kit quite probably consists of a Dremel® mini-grinder with a couple of spare grinder bits and a bottle of touch up bluing. US regulations relating to forces in forein countries specifically prohibit the display of religious symbols on uniforms or equipment, making it clearly "illegal" for US personnel to use these devices where they are currently deployed. Normal US purchase/delivery regulations require a specification for "Markings and Packaging" that must be provided to the manufacturer/seller for any "legal procurement." In proper form, the spec includes ALL MARKINGS required, and inclusion of any markings NOT IN THE SPEC is a non-compliance with the contract, for which the manufacturer/supplier is liable for the costs of remedy. There are exceptions in the rules to permit purchase of "off the shelf" commercial items, but the regulations, the last time I looked, required removal of all "commercial markings and supplier identifications" with the exception of (military) nomenclature for the device and the manufacturers "CODE IDENT" Number. For items procured to a government spec, even "markings necessary to use" are specified and described by size, text, color, and usually location on the device; and nothing that isn't in the spec is permitted. For items procured under the "commercial products" exceptions, the "markings necessary to use" may not be specifically described, but are the only markings "legally permitted." If the gov't wasn't aware of these markings, somebody F**D UP the procurement. Maybe accepting purchased items without inspection (and possibly without a "Delivery Spec." has something to do with where all that money that can't be found has gone(?). John |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: dick greenhaus Date: 22 Jan 10 - 01:06 PM CHRISTIANS AT WAR (John F, Kendrick) (IWW Songs, 9th. Edition, 1916) Onward, Christian soldiers! Duty's way is plain; Slay your Christian neighbors, or by them be slain, Pulpiteers are spouting effervescent swill, God above is calling you to rob and rape and kill, All your acts are sanctified by the Lamb on high; If you love the Holy Ghost, go murder, pray and die. Onward, Christian soldiers! Rip and tear and smite! Let the gentle Jesus bless your dynamite. Splinter skulls with shrapnel, fertilize the sod; Folks who do not speak your tongue deserve the curse of God. Smash the doors of every home, pretty maidens seize; Use your might and sacred right to treat them as you please. Onward, Christian soldiers! Eat and drink your fill; Rob with bloody fingers, Christ okays the bill, Steal the farmers' savings, take their grain and meat; Even though the children starve, the Saviour's bums must eat, Burn the peasants' cottages, orphans leave bereft; In Jehovah's holy name, wreak ruin right and left. Onward, Christian soldiers! Drench the land with gore; Mercy is a weakness all the gods abhor. Bayonet the babies, jab the mothers, too; Hoist the cross of Calvary to hallow all you do. File your bullets' noses flat, poison every well; God decrees your enemies must all go plumb to hell. Onward, Christian soldiers! Blight all that you meet; Trample human freedom under pious feet. Praise the Lord whose dollar sign dupes his favored race! Make the foreign trash respect your bullion brand of grace. Trust in mock salvation, serve as tyrant's tools; History will say of you: "That pack of G.. D.. fools" @war @parody @political @IWW filename[ CHRSTWAR TUNE FILE: ONCHRST CLICK TO PLAY RG |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: DougR Date: 22 Jan 10 - 04:30 PM GUEST 999: |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Paul Burke Date: 23 Jan 10 - 01:52 PM Matt 26:52 |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: GUEST,bankley Date: 23 Jan 10 - 04:01 PM talk about scoping out the scriptures... it gives 'cross-hairs' a new meaning.. and now for a bible with the Trijicon logo engraved on the cover |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: GUEST,999 Date: 23 Jan 10 - 04:18 PM "Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: DougR Date: 22 Jan 10 - 04:30 PM GUEST 999: " I've never seen you speechless before Doug. If I'd known it was that easy . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: GUEST Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:13 AM Be not that far from me, for trouble is near; haste Thee to help me. Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me. Sniper, Private Jackson in "Saving Private Ryan". |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: 3refs Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:16 AM Forgot to log in. Some may find this interesting! http://www.army.mil/professionalwriting/volumes/volume1/august_2003/8_03_2.html |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: Bobert Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:32 AM There's something in Mathew about folks who start wars and send others to fight them... I'll find it later... Gotta go... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Date: 25 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM So how many sight had references to: "Blessed are the meek" "Blessed are the peacemeakers" "Love thy neighbour as thyself" "Thou shalt not kill" etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS:Kill For Jesus-Scripture verses on rifle sights From: mousethief Date: 25 Jan 10 - 09:44 PM If I re-define Christianity the way you have re-defined Atheism, then I can get whatever results I want, too. That's bullcrap. O..O =o= |
