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How Tall was Sandy Denny?

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Subject: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Jenny
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 07:42 PM

Awhile back someone posted a thread asking how tall Ewan MacColl is.
Person posting said something about just "a general curiosity."
I forget exact words but something to that effect. So I too have a general curiosity about how tall Sandy Denny was.

I have often wondered if anyone knows for sure how tall Sandy Denny was? I believe she was not too tall and maybe the same height as me, just under 5'2" or maybe she was a little taller.

I guess it is a strange curiosity as the person who posted question about Ewan Maccoll's height but I always wonder about female singer's heights when they are not too tall, like me. :-))

I think I read somewhere that Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac is about 5'2" and Linda Ronstadt also 5'2" although she looks a little taller then that to me (even when not wearing heels.) I think Janis Ian is on the short side too but don't know her height.   
So I am always curious about singer's who are 5'2" and under.
Maybe strange curiosity I know. :-))
Well all I can say sometimes when you are short you wonder who else might be short too that are famous.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 10:00 PM

I don't know, but as usual the internet can provide evidence of a sort.
Here's a photo of her with four guys who appear to range from 6" to 18" taller than her:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/f091ab5035f80ca6c281790c59a5719c/tumblr_n0wsbjAHNp1sm
The guys appear to be ordinary humans, so it seems safe to conclude that she's no taller than about five foot two.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 10:22 PM

Similar photographic evidence for Stevie Nicks' height:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f7/f4/00/f7f4002f0f04c3329477148b05f75
http://hangout.altsounds.com/attachments/features/18106d1355340582-tune-yester-d
https://blurppy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/1fleetwoodmacbw2.jpg
In that last one, the top of her head comes to a little below Christine MacVie's chin.
Warning: these images contain extreme cuteness. Especially that last one.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 10:31 PM

I only found one photo making Linda Ronstadt look short, about shoulder-high on Johnny Cash:
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/airdate-march-1-1970-linda-ronsta

There are lots of pictures of her standing next to Dolly Partin and Emmylou.
They don't seem much taller than her, if any.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Mathew
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 10:46 PM

I posted the thread about Maccoll's height and I must say I completely agree with having an irrational interest in short famous people


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 15 - 10:58 PM

Here's Janis Ian looking very short next to Celine Dion and several other ladies:
http://www.celinedion.us/images/event/2009/janis-ian-celine-dion_20090113cin010.
And even shorter next to some guy:
http://www.pmpnetwork.com/photos9/SingerJanisIan.jpg

And, though you didn't mention her, I've seen Iris Dement in concert three times and was surprised at how short she looked. Like the others, she has a powerful voice, and maybe that makes me expect them to be taller. But I think a lot of great singers are very short.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Jenny
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 12:42 AM

Thanks for all the photos of these petite ladies. The one of Sandy Denny next to the guys, well that is about where I stand when standing next to guys who are around 6' tall. Also similar like that one with Janis Ian.

It's funny, years ago in the 60's & 70's it seems like guys liked short woman but nowadays most guys seem to prefer tall or at least medium height woman (unless of course you are talented and look like Sandy Denny, Linda Ronstadt or Stevie Nicks (ah, which I don't :-))

I know height shouldn't matter, but in real life, I find that a lot of guys nowadays look for the tall /medium height woman.
Read some personal ads for singles not too long ago and so many guys (not all young guys either) but middle-aged men looking for tall women. Not looking for short woman who are 5'2" or under. :-(


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Will Fly
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 04:42 AM

Whatever you do, Jenny - don't listen to Randy Newman... :-)


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 06:49 AM

Six Foot, definitely six foot ................. under





I'll get me coat


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 08:20 AM

how did Ewan feel about earwigs?

Does Peggy Seeger shave under her arms?

What is Martin Carthy's hat size?

Who could fart the loudest Hamish Imlach or Derek Brimstone?

If Sam Larner and Harry Cox had a fight, who would win?

not enough to keep the mind alive.......


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Andiliqueur
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 08:36 AM

The best intellectual thread ever. I'm a 5ft 8in female and I hadn't realised that at 63 I have become desirable. At last my time has come but then doesn't every dog (bitch) have their day?


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 15 - 09:12 AM

For me, height has nothing to do with whether I'm attracted to a woman, and I can't see why any man would care about that one way or the other. I've often heard tall women lamenting that their height makes men not interested in them. This is the first time I've ever heard it the other way. It's good to know that women are finding new things to feel insecure about; that's the only way we men stay in control. But I suspect that a man specifying tall in a personals ad is just trying to say that he doesn't subscribe to that well-known mythical prejudice against tall women.

I did hear one instance of tall women being favored in the workplace. I don't know whether it's true. A woman in the Netherlands told me that IcelandAir only hires tall women as stewardesses. It's hard to believe that sort of prejudice would be tolerated by law in any modern nation.

The Dutch woman also told me that a friend of hers had surgery to make her legs 6" longer so she could get the job. So even if there is an emerging preference for tall women, apparently you're not stuck being short any more than you're stuck with the hair color you were born with.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Jill
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 01:27 AM

I read some years ago that Dolly Parton is 5'1" tall but I think she usually wears very high heeled shoes so probably looks taller. Linda Ronstadt does look taller then 5'2" to me even when not wearing high heel type shoes. I am 5'2" myself but people always think I am shorter - so I guess some people just appear taller/shorter even if they are around the same height.
My guess is Sandy Denny is about 5'1" or 5'2"

Remember singer Brenda Lee? I think she is quite petite in height too. Maybe 5"0" or 5'1"
I think the late actress Elizabeth Taylor was 5'2."

Was watching some of the Oscars on television. Most of those young actresses are giants! Long, long legs - not too many short ones on the program, maybe Reese Witherspoon the only one on the shorter side compared to the other actresses. (saw her standing next to Nicole Kidman.)on the program.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Vic Smith
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 08:10 AM

I have been able to establish two important height-related facts based around people in this thread:-
1] Sandy Denny was exactly the same height as Alexandra Elene MacLean Lucas.
2] Ewan MacColl was exactly the same height as Jimmy Miller.


I hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 08:59 AM

Janis Joplin was also rather short. The one time I had the pleasure of seeing her, the bottle of Southern Comfort she was drinking from was at least half as tall as she was. Then again, it may have been an optical illusion caused by a really big bottle of Southern Comfort.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: pdq
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 11:02 AM

Well, the long and the short of it: Brenda Lee is barely 4'9" and Judy Henske is nearly 6'2".


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 03:10 PM

There's a new biography of Sandy;

I've Always Kept a Unicorn: The Biography of Sandy Denny
by Mick Houghton.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 04:40 PM

By one of these very strange coincidences, I was looking at the cover of the "Fotheringay" LP today, and if the portrait on the front is anything to go by, she was a good head shorter than anyone else in the band, and this is confirmed by the band photo on the inside of the double sleeve.

http://youtu.be/pDMKNv8l2KM

If the above link works, you can see it on "Youtube" where someone seems to have uploaded the whole album.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 04:42 PM

Try again - if it doesn't work, search for "Fotheringay" in "Youtube" :

http://youtu.be/pDMKNv8l2KM


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Brian Peters
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 06:12 PM

"Does Peggy Seeger shave under her arms?

What is Martin Carthy's hat size?

Who could fart the loudest Hamish Imlach or Derek Brimstone?

If Sam Larner and Harry Cox had a fight, who would win?"


Indeed, Big Al, WE NEED ANSWERS!


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 08:48 PM

Kenny: the Fotheringay LP cover is highly unrealistic and cartoon-like, except for the faces. It shows the men in the band all about the same height.

The link in the second post of this thread is to a photo of the band. It shows that the heights of the men vary quite a bit, but Sandy Denny is considerably shorter than any of them.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Sandi
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 09:24 PM

Probably her daughter who lives in Australia would know the answer.

Unless it is actually mentioned in one of the books about Sandy, I don't know who would know for sure accept maybe someone in Sandy's family.
Or a close friend might know.
Or if you ever happened to have stood next to Sandy and were the same height.

Don't know if you would hear from any family member though or the chance that someone stood next to her (and the same height) would read this and reply. Probably not or odds are not great to hear from any family member or friend who knew her well.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 11:46 PM

This thread was brought to the attention of Linda Thompson who says Sandy was five foot three. This is much more entertaining than people slagging each other off over Ewan MacColl. Shall we move on to Maddy Prior?

David E.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,M
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 03:36 AM

"Does Peggy Seeger shave under her arms?"

Or does she wax? Either way does she have an endorsement deal with the supplier of her depilatory of choice?

"What is Martin Carthy's hat size?"
And his shoe size and *this question has been deleted by the arbiter of mudcat morality and decency*

"Who could fart the loudest Hamish Imlach or Derek Brimstone?"
And did beans or real ale play the most important part in the quality of flatulence?

"If Sam Larner and Harry Cox had a fight, who would win?"
Today? They're both dead making the match difficult to arrange, but I tried a series of seances and the glass consistently moved to Harry's name...

I think in all these cases, further research is needed and I'm prepared to undertake it, provided Mudcat can crowd-source a bursary for me.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Brian Peters
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 03:40 AM

Interesting, Guest M, but would you really fancy the gentle animal-lover over the rough and ready former decky raised on daily thrashings? My money's on Sam.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,M
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 03:43 AM

Brian,

Clearly I need to recalibrate my seance glass...


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Nick
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 07:36 AM

There are more questions than answers


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Nick
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 07:51 AM

I realise I may have spoiled this thread by finding out the/an answer. I'm sure that the aim of the thread is to pontificate over a piece of trivia rather than to find the answer. So I do apologise.

There was a similar one on how you pronounce Gillian Welch's name. That thread had been running for 11 YEARS when I spoiled that one.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Benny Hillbilly
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 08:39 AM

How tall ?

- more importantly; what was her bra size !!!!!!?????


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Morris-ey
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 11:29 AM

Jenny

If you are a woman, whether short or tall, then you will attract men.

If you are rich as well, let me know and I will be happy to attend to your every need sexually and will endeavour to try to engage in conversation.

Bear in mind that Tom Cruise is a midget (a very rich one) and has no problem getting as many wives as he wants...


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Jenny
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 01:18 PM

Guest David E. wrote that Linda Thompson indicated that Sandy Denny was 5'3" tall. I thought she was shorter then that by photos of her with the guys in the band. Of course I know they were tall.
However, I had seen photos of Sandy standing next to other girls (can't recall at the moment who they were) but Sandy looked significantly shorter then them so surprise to hear she was 5'3"
Thought she was around 5'1" or 5'2" at the very most.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 01:48 PM

Maybe she slouched a lot (as in that photo with the band).
Or maybe Linda's tape measure was one of those cloth ones and it stretched a little.
Or maybe David was just pulling your leg.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 02:42 PM

Or maybe Linda doesn't know precisely, but was giving a best guess. Do you know precisely how tall your friends and bandmates are?


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Janet
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 07:48 PM

I'm not in a band, but yes I actually do know my close friend's heights. (we don't discuss weight though :-))) None of us our models. :-)


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 15 - 09:22 PM

It must be a girl thing. Jenny seems to know heights also. She was surprised to hear that Sandy (whom she's apparently never met) was an inch taller than she thought. I doubt that I could tell you my closest friends' heights within 3".


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Feb 15 - 02:32 PM

Speaking of great singers who are short, check out Maisy Stella. She looks like she's about 3' tall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Mr2pmuad4


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 26 Feb 15 - 03:10 PM

She was about two inches shorter than me and I'm Irish


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 28 Feb 15 - 06:44 PM

I'm less concerns with the many questions that need answers and more about answers that may be in dire need of a question.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Mysha
Date: 28 Feb 15 - 07:30 PM

For those who aren't Irish, nor have Irish neighbours: Does being Irish make you tall or not so much so?

Bye,
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Feb 15 - 07:56 PM

I believe "She was about two inches shorter than me and I'm Irish," is what's known as a non sequitur. There is no logical connection between the two premises unless the drugs you're taking are really good.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 02 Mar 15 - 01:41 PM

Bee-dubya-ell
Well my drugs are working, but I fteel you missed my point


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Mysha
Date: 02 Mar 15 - 02:13 PM

Hi Desi,

OK, I don't know whether "Does being Irish make you tall or not so much so?" was the right question to ask, but would you be so kind to explain, for a Frisian (who probably misses so many points that connect the dots becomes a game of chance), what your comment was about?

Bye
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,John Orford
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 08:46 AM

I must disagree with Jenny here - 5'2" is not short. My wife is 4'10" and I always insist she is normal. The taller we all grow, the more we weigh; the more we weight the more food we need. If this obsession with "growth to potential" continues, perhaps the world really might run out of food. Small is beautiful.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 09:12 AM

In Slapstick, Kurt Vonnegut posited a future in which people had adapted to over-crowding of the planet and dwindling resources by evolving as smaller people.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 09:22 AM

I second Mysha's request for clarification. If "She was about two inches shorter than me and I'm Irish," is not intended as a humorous non sequitur, then what's the connection between the two premises in the statement? I'm in the US, but I know a few Irish natives and they don't seem to be of uniform height.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 09:53 PM

How Long is an Asian gentleman?


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Mysha
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 03:22 AM

Depend on his parents.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 03:45 AM

How Hi is a Chinaman?


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 03:45 AM

Sorry - that should have been: How Hi is a Chinaman.


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 06:30 AM

Bee-dubya-ell
If you see comments below mine such as 'how hi is a china man' the you should easily be able to understand my comment. by the way Irish men vary in height in much the same way most other men do, but then it is Wednesday today


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Subject: RE: How Tall was Sandy Denny?
From: Mysha
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 10:47 AM

Sorry, that should have been "Depends on his parents."


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