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Subject: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: emeaco@netserv.net.au
Date: 27 May 97 - 10:58 PM

The tune Londonderry air was given to Petrie by Miss Jane Ross of Londonderry, a well-known collector of traditional Irish music. Sir Hubert Parry called it "the most beautiful tune in the world" The first known words to be added to it were by Alfred Perceval Graves -" Would I were Erin's appli blossom o'er thee" and the second version, " Emer's farewell" was made by the same writer. The most popular version, "Danny Boy" was written by the prolific lyricist Frederick E Weatherby in 1913. Do the words for "Emer's Farewell" still exist? If so where can I get a copy of them?


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 28 May 97 - 10:44 AM

Interesting query. I may be in the Irish Traditional Music Archive in Dublin over the next few weeks. If anyone has it - they will!

I'll let you know.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 03 Jun 97 - 06:06 AM

Some minor progress to report. Graves is confirmed as the author of "Emer's Farewell" and the words MAY be in his "Songs of the Irish" book.

More later

Regards


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: emeaco@netserv.net.au
Date: 03 Jun 97 - 09:39 PM

Thanks for your efforts Martin, I keep coming back to the group every couple of days to check for responses. Appreciate your interest and hope we eventually come up with the words...I couldnt respond direct as I havnt got your e-mail address....cheers Eric


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Subject: Lyr Add: EMER'S FAREWELL TO CUCULLAIN^^
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 09 Jun 97 - 06:06 AM

From "Songs of Old Ireland" the words by Alfred Perceval Graves the music arranged by C Villiers Stanford (Boosey & Co, London and New York, 1882)


EMER'S FAREWELL TO CUCULLAIN
O might a maid confess her secret longing
To one who dearly loves but may not speak!
Alas! I had not hidden to thy wronging
A bleeding heart beneath a smiling cheek;
I had not stemmed my bitter tears from starting,
And thou hadst learned my bosom's dear distress,
And half the pain, the cruel pain of parting,
Had passed, Cuchullain, in thy fond caress.

But go! Connacta's hostile trumpets call thee,
Thy chariot mount and ride the ridge of war,
And prove whatever feat of arms befall thee,
The hope and pride of Emer of Lismore;
Ah, then return, my hero, girt with glory,
To knit my virgin heart so near to thine,
That all who seek thy name in Erin's story
Shall find its loving letters linked with mine.

Thanks to John Moulden (see "Irsh Songs. sources" thread) for supplying the above.

Hope the format survives pasting!

Regards

Regards ^^
Line Breaks <br> added.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 09 Jun 97 - 06:31 AM

Alas! The formatting went astray. Sorry about that. Shouldn't be too difficult to sort out

Regards


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: emeaco@netserv.net.au
Date: 11 Jun 97 - 11:18 PM

Many thanks Martin, I sorted it out okay and have printed it up without a problem....cheers ...Eric


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Jun 97 - 11:48 PM

Does anyone know where the "Tender Apple Blossom" lyric fit in here?


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 02 Jul 97 - 11:51 AM

Dick,

A modern American sheet music book called "51 Lucky Irish Classics" (!) contains a song called "Would God I were the tender Apple blossom" with the words ascribed to Katharine Mary Hinkson (b 1861). She was a minor Irish poet, mostly known through one poem that was often beaten into schoolkids! Copyright date is given as 1916(Renewed).

It seems too much of a coincidence that Graves had so similar a set. Any source, Eric? A cursory look through some of Graves' book shows only Emer's Farewell.

Dick I'll post words (all two verses), another time.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Jul 97 - 01:30 PM

And while I'm asking...I seem to have misplaced my set of lyrics for the modern (and somewhat rude) ode to a miniskirt: "The London Derriere" I don't sing that kind of stuff, of course, but I'd sort of like to find it for the sake of completeness.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WOULD GOD I WERE THE TENDER APPLE...^^
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 05:15 AM

Dick. Here's the words to "Would God I were..." And if you let the thread run just so you could indulge the pun... On the other hand, if you HAVE the words, let's hear them!

WOULD GOD I WERE THE TENDER APPLE BLOSSOM
(Words by Katharine Tynan Hinkson [b 1861])
Air from Londonderry, in Petrie collection

Would God I were the tender apple blossom,
That floats and falls from off the twisted bough
To lie and faint within your silken bosom,
Within your silken bosom as that does now
Or would I were a little burnished apple,
For you to pluck me, gliding by so cold
While sun and shade your robe of lawn will dapple,
Your robe of lawn and your hair's spun gold

Yea, would to God I were among the roses,
That lean to kiss you as you float between
While on the lowest branch a bud uncloses,
A bud uncloses to yon Queen
Nay, since you will not love, would I were growing,
A happy daisy in the garden path
That so your silver foot might press me going,
Might press me going even unto death!

Note
"Unclosing!" No wonder I've never heard it sung!

p.s. Knowing your fondness for completeness, I'm almost afraid to mention that there is at least one set in Irish! Not traditional either - written at the end of the last century by professor of Irish at Trinity College Dublin, I think.

Regards ^^


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 11:42 AM

Thanx Martin. and no, it's not my pun. There is such a parody extant. I've heard it.


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Bruce O.
Date: 12 Mar 98 - 08:36 PM

For history of song and tune go to
www.standingstones.com/dannyboy.htm


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 05:18 AM

Just noticed this from the new Danny Boy thread started by SusieQ. Emer's Farewell doesn't seem to have been included in the Database. Perhaps this year?


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 05:51 AM

G'day Dick,

I see The London Derrierre (as it were) appears (via a link) in the "Give me the words to Danny Bo..." thread ... Hmmmm!

Regard(les)s,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Londonderry Air - lyrics
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 11:16 AM

I believe it was Dick who supplied those "London Derriere" lyrics. I was thinking that this Emer's Farewell looks nice, and being part of the history of the tune, we should put it safe into the DT.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LONDONDERRY AIR^^
From: radriano
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 02:31 PM

There's a lovely version of this song in Sam Henry's Songs of the People.

I like these lyrics much better than Danny Boy.

The Londonderry Air
[from 'Sam Henry's Songs of the People']


Flood tide that ebbs, dark waves in sullen motion
Sad winds that sigh, take this, the heart of me
To yonder ship, white falcon of the ocean
Bearing so swiftly my lost love across the sea

Rain from gray skies like tears of lamentation
Beating across bleak sands and shoreland bare
Weep with my soul, alone in desolation
Hopeless the grief and anguish of my sad despair

Sweetest of all, my dream that, at the waking
Swiftly was gone and lost beyond recall
Rose on the rood that as the dawn was breaking
So softly died as morning wept thy silent fall

Sad wind and tide that two fond hearts now sever
Our faith proclaims, triumphant over tears
How still we love and shall do so for ever
Who wait alone the secret of the coming years

[Petrie 1855-57 says the air, without title or lyrics, was collected by Miss J. Ross in Limavady. According to local tradition, James McCurry, the blind fiddler of Myroe, Limavady, was the itinerant fiddler from whom Miss Anne Jane Ross of Limavady obtained the Londonderry Air. The lyrics in this version were written by T. Wray Milnes of Beeston, Leeds.]

radriano
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Londonderry Air / Emer's Farewell / ...
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 05:49 PM

Mrs.Kathleen Mary Allen.
I heard a lovely version at a funeral sung to the tune of Londonderry Air.Does anyone know the words to this version.They are l
Lovely words to be sung at a funeral.Thankyou.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Londonderry Air / Emer's Farewell / ...
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 14 Oct 21 - 03:33 PM

I understand that there are a number of hymns set to the air in use in the United States. A quick search suggests this might be suitable:


Hymn set to Danny Boy

The most interesting setting I've heard in a religious context was by a United Church of Christ (?) "shout band"! I'll post a link later.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Londonderry Air / Emer's Farewell / ...
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 08:19 AM

Fred Weatherly, an English lawyer, is estimated to have written the lyrics to at least 3,000 popular songs. He wrote the song "Danny Boy" while living in Bath in 1910, but it did not meet with much success.

In 1912 his sister-in-law Margaret Enright Weatherly in America suggested an old Irish tune called "Londonderry Air", which he had never heard before. Margaret had learned the tune from her Irish-born father Dennis. The tune matched his lyrics almost perfectly. He published the now-famous song in 1913.

His ballad "Roses of Picardy", written in 1916 and set to music by Haydn Wood, was one of the most famous songs from World War 1. (Wikipedia)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Londonderry Air / Emer's Farewell / ...
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 21 - 05:28 PM

I'm not familiar with the London Derrière song that Dick Greehaus mentioned, but I wrote this one a few years ago (it's in Franglais):

London Derrière
© Vikki Appleton Fielden (~2015?)

When Ah was young
Ah left mah 'ome in gay Paris
Ah crossed La Manche
To leeve in Angleterre
To mah soorpreeze
Zee lovely girls of Lohndohn
Sont tres gentil
Et belle beyond compare

So when Ah go to bed
Mah rose Anglaise
Oh voulez vous
Ahccompahnee me zayre
For zo j'adore
Les jolies filles Francaises
Zere's nossing cahn soorpass
a London derriere

(For those who may not know, "la Manche"("the sleeve") is what the French call the English Channel, Angleterre = England and Anglaise = English woman.)


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