Lyr Req: You and I (Ewan MacColl)

Subject: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, etc.
From: Greenbean
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:50 AM

And no, it's not a Yeat's poem. It's a song from an Aussie singer/songwriter whose name I have disgracefully forgotten. The lyrics I remember run something like: "You and I have feasted on/ the golden apples of the sun/umm...something something/ the part of you in me will serve/ to ease the breaking of my heart/and keep a watch for your return/when we must part." Heard an older couple who're friends sing this beautifully & I'm being haunted by it, altho' my failing memory can't reproduce the lyrics & I need to find a copy somewhere. Thanks for the help!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Noreen
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 03:24 PM

I can do the Yeats poem.... (even sang it on Paltalk!) ...but don't know this one, sorry.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Sarah2
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 03:12 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 09:52 PM

G'day,

We don't seem to be doing too well on this one.

It sounds too sensitive to be any of our local Aussies ... maybe it is one who headed OS to get away from overwhelming Ockerism ... or one of our imports with a sensitive touch (like Wee Eric Bogle - when he isn't writing Nobody's Moggy Now or Little Gomez!

Anyway, I hope you do track it down. (ok, I don't really believe we have no writers of sensitivity ... it just looks like that when you see what people expect of Australian singers.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Joybell
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:20 PM

Sounded interesting and I did a bit of searching. It's a while since this request was made.
This seems to be a Ewan MacColl song copywrited in 1977. I found the title as -- "You and I have feasted on the golden apples of the sun" ("You and I") on a site that just lists the songs. Can't find the lyrics -- but it's a start.
Can anyone take it further?
Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:16 PM

Joybell-

It's still a puzzle to me. I'm not finding the song in my two Oak publication books of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger songs.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun, et
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:28 PM

"You and I"

Subject: ADD: You and I (Ewan MacColl)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 04:05 AM

You and I
Ewan MacColl, 1977

You and I have feasted on the golden apples of the sun,
And sailed on wild uncharted seas when the way was done.

Between two heartbeats we have known a long eternity of joy;
We've soared above the fields of space, the stars our toys.

I give my heart and gain my soul. I'm only free when I am bound;
Within the shelter of your arms I'm lost and found.

You and I have drunk the moon, and time nor death cannot subdue
The part of you that lives in me, nor me in you.

That part of me in you will see the kestrel quartering the sky,
The endless play of night and day caught in your eyes.

That part of you in me will serve to ease the breaking of my heart,
And guide me safely through the night when we must part.


from The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook
tune available on request

Anybody know of recordings of this song?
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun - You an
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 04:40 AM

It's on 'Hot Blast' (Blackthorne BR1059 (1979)
Peggy wrote the note in 'The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook'
"Except for two or three occasions..... Ewan and I were together twenty four hours a day for thirty years. In 1977, I flew alone to the University of California...... I was away for ten days, during which time Ewan wrote a clutch of personal songs: 'You and I', 'Nobody Knew She Was There' and My Old Man'. Maybe I should have gone away more often. At the same time he wrote a draft of 'What The Poet Called Her'. Did he want to go away more often?"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun - You and I
From: Goldengob
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 07:57 AM

Martyn Wyndham Read recorded "You and I" on his album "Across the Line" with a tune he wrote himself and a variation of the same tune was used for the song on the album "Less Sprightly" by Whaley & Fletcher

Subject: RE: Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun - You and I
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 08:51 AM

And I wonder where "Greenbean," the original poster, is now.

But it's another long lost song nailed down.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun - You and I
From: Joybell
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 07:16 PM

Great. Yes I wondered about "Greenbean" too. Is she or he still singing the same line over and over.
A good feeling to wind up an old request isn't it.
Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: Req: Feasting on Golden Apples of Sun - You and I
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 04:21 AM

Aargh!

I have a faint memory of this sounding slightly familar six years ago ... but by then I no longer had an LP player ... and I tended not to remember the single exception on "Hot Blast" - You and I among all those 'hot blasts' at politics and "rational" economics!

Ah well, I STILL can't play my old LPs ... but I now have 'The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook' (and my memory ... ?) to work from.

Joybell: Thanks for prompting me on this thread resurfacing.

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You and I (Ewan MacColl)
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 17 Aug 14 - 03:34 PM

I am not sure how interested people are after another seven years, but I was also keen to track down this song. I have bought Peggy Seegar's version (from "Hot Blast") as an mp3, but I am astonished how few covers there are of this. In addition to ones mentioned on this thread, I can find a cover by Bob Moss on the album "Folknik", with vocals by Flannery Hauck. Ewan MacColl wrote "The First Time Ever I saw your Face", which has a whole Wikipedia screenful of covers, Grammys and all sorts, so we know he wrote sensitive love songs. Why so few covers of "You and I"? Maybe its because there are other, lesser, songs with the same name. Maybe its because it is too close to the bone, it is written for a couple, who have had many years together, who are maybe approaching the ends of their lives, but still very much in love.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You and I (Ewan MacColl)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Aug 14 - 03:37 AM

One of the few 'personal' songs Ewan wrote - it was one among a handful of others of s similar type he made when his life was going through a number of changes.
In my opinion, they are among his most sensitive songs and their personal nature are the reason they are nor sung as often as the rest of his output.
Paeggy wrote of it in '@The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook":
"YOU AND I
(1977)
Except for the two or three occasions already mentioned in this book, Ewan and I were together twenty-four hours a day for thirty years. In 1977, I flew alone to the University of California at Berkeley to attend a festschrift that my father's colleagues were giving for him. I was away for ten days, during which time Ewan wrote a clutch of personal songs: "You and I," "Nobody Knew She Was There" and "My Old Man." Maybe I should I have gone away more often. At the same time he wrote a draft of "What the Poet Called I Her." Did he want to go away more often?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You and I (Ewan MacColl)
From: rich-joy
Date: 18 Aug 14 - 04:17 AM

I just LOVE this about Mudcat; that folks still care enough to keep researching or at least keep a weather-eye (or ear) out for stuff!
THANK YOU.

(And as one who has just lost their Beloved songman after almost 30 years, I am deeply moved by this song of Ewan's.)

Namaste,
Rich-Joy